*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Kilgore Trout]

Looking forward to seeing FSU lose in the so-called playoff. Dear College Football, please allow an eight team playoff, where all the major football conferences are represented. And ECU.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

How do you take Alabama seriously after almost losing to Arkansas or Georgia seriously for losing to South Carolina and beating Tennessee by three. It's college football, #### varies wildly week to week. TCU is very good. Pretty much every team is flawed this year, Sagarin loves the Big 12 because it's a good conference. If you don't like the style, don't watch.

 

[Christo]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

A 3 point loss to a top 10 team on the road?

 

[Raider Nation]

Anyone see Rod Gilmore's cute little graphic a few minutes ago? 4 teams that are "in"... 2 more teams on the "outside looking in".

Ole Miss wasn't one of the six.

 

[GOB]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

I'd make a wager that a 1 loss ND team gets in ahead of any 1 loss team that isn't from the SEC or that isn't named Oregon considering that there one loss was by 4 points to FSU on the road with a questionable finish.

What was questionable about it? If you are referring to the TWO ND players committing blatant picks then I am not sure what to tell you. Hell, Lou Holtz said it was the correct call.Big XII is much deeper than people want to admit. ND will boast wins against ASU, USC, and Stanford. That isn't a better resume than any of the teams from the Big XII would have assuming they end with 1 loss.

Will ND get in with 1 loss? Idk maybe, hell probably but they have done nothing to this point to deserve a high ranking. So help me if anyone says almost beating FSU is an accomplishment, losing is never a good thing. We aren't in pee wee anymore.

Its questionable b/c at that time of the game, that's a 50/50 call; that type of call doesn't get called every time in the middle of the game let alone at the 2nd to last play. The committee is going to be looking at ND and saying that they were that one call from being undefeated.

I thought the committee was going to pick the 4 best teams. I know you are a ND fan, but I cannot for the life of me, see how anyone thinks ND is one of the best 10 teams this year, let alone top 4. They played their best game tonight and lost. They escaped UNC and Stanford. They simply don't pass my eye test. But luckily for you, they are ND, so they will probably get in if they run the table.

 

[Moe.]

Really ain't much difference between teams 1-6 in the Big 12. I'll be surprised/impressed if a team gets through with one loss. I wouldn't bet on any of them making the playoff but there's a lot of season left.

OU's coaching staff really let them team down today imo. They have got to stop being so wasteful with timeouts. The two INTs were just laughably bad calls. OU was lucky to win last week so it's hard to get mad when they are on the other side of it this week.

 

[Smack Tripper]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

A 3 point loss to a top 10 team on the road?

-Or-

A blown 21 point 4th quarter lead and you give up 61 to a team that loses the following week?

 

[GOB]

Anyone see Rod Gilmore's cute little graphic a few minutes ago? 4 teams that are "in"... 2 more teams on the "outside looking in".

Ole Miss wasn't one of the six.

He likes points. Good football be damned.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

A 3 point loss to a top 10 team on the road?

WAC GARBAGE!!!!!

 

[NutterButter]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

I'd make a wager that a 1 loss ND team gets in ahead of any 1 loss team that isn't from the SEC or that isn't named Oregon considering that there one loss was by 4 points to FSU on the road with a questionable finish.

What was questionable about it? If you are referring to the TWO ND players committing blatant picks then I am not sure what to tell you. Hell, Lou Holtz said it was the correct call.Big XII is much deeper than people want to admit. ND will boast wins against ASU, USC, and Stanford. That isn't a better resume than any of the teams from the Big XII would have assuming they end with 1 loss.

Will ND get in with 1 loss? Idk maybe, hell probably but they have done nothing to this point to deserve a high ranking. So help me if anyone says almost beating FSU is an accomplishment, losing is never a good thing. We aren't in pee wee anymore.

Its questionable b/c at that time of the game, that's a 50/50 call; that type of call doesn't get called every time in the middle of the game let alone at the 2nd to last play. The committee is going to be looking at ND and saying that they were that one call from being undefeated.

I thought the committee was going to pick the 4 best teams. I know you are a ND fan, but I cannot for the life of me, see how anyone thinks ND is one of the best 10 teams this year, let alone top 4. They played their best game tonight and lost. They escaped UNC and Stanford. They simply don't pass my eye test. But luckily for you, they are ND, so they will probably get in if they run the table.

In that case, at least 3 SEC teams if not 4 should get in b/c Auburn, Miss ST and Ole Miss as well as probably Alabama should not be penalized for beating on each other. Christ, I guess FSU shouldn't get in b/c there only wins came against a so-so Clemson team and an ND team that doesn't pass the eye test.

 

[GOB]

Honestly just give me the 4 teams from the SEC West and I am confident you will crown the best team in the country.

 

[Christo]

Really ain't much difference between teams 1-6 in the Big 12. I'll be surprised/impressed if a team gets through with one loss. I wouldn't bet on any of them making the playoff but there's a lot of season left.

OU's coaching staff really let them team down today imo. They have got to stop being so wasteful with timeouts. The two INTs were just laughably bad calls. OU was lucky to win last week so it's hard to get mad when they are on the other side of it this week.

OU will be lucky to get to a bowl with only 3 losses this year. Good chance they lose 2/3 of Baylor, TTech & OSU.

 

[gump]

If Oregon can get by Stanford, they are in the playoffs.

The PAC champ will be in...barring a 3-loss champ. SEC Champ obviously in. FSU in. From there it's ND, B1G Champ, Big 12 Champ, and SEC #2. ND losing like that was big. And there are going to be 4 SEC teams in the top 6.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Honestly just give me the 4 teams from the SEC West and I am confident you will crown the best team in the country.

What the hell does Florida State have to do to impress you people? lol

 

[Smack Tripper]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

How do you take Alabama seriously after almost losing to Arkansas or Georgia seriously for losing to South Carolina and beating Tennessee by three. It's college football, #### varies wildly week to week. TCU is very good. Pretty much every team is flawed this year, Sagarin loves the Big 12 because it's a good conference. If you don't like the style, don't watch.

I'm really not Into conference homerism and I can certainly enjoy the games on some car wreck level but I've heard some saying the big 12 had passed the PAC 10 which is crazy to me, even if the PAC 10 isn't what they were ten years ago.

I just don't see putting tcu and Baylor over ND in the context of the original post I replied to.

I just need a little defense or the threat of it.

The big 12 has clearly passed the big 10 though so I'll split the baby with you there

 

[Raider Nation]

Anyone see Rod Gilmore's cute little graphic a few minutes ago? 4 teams that are "in"... 2 more teams on the "outside looking in".

Ole Miss wasn't one of the six.

He likes points. Good football be damned.

We should be celebrating a major school giving up 10 PPG in this day and age of spread offenses with video-game numbers. Despite their loss in Morgantown today, I would pay good money to watch Ole Miss @ Baylor.

 

[NutterButter]

If Oregon can get by Stanford, they are in the playoffs.

The PAC champ will be in...barring a 3-loss champ. SEC Champ obviously in. FSU in. From there it's ND, B1G Champ, Big 12 Champ, and SEC #2. ND losing like that was big. And there are going to be 4 SEC teams in the top 6.

You think a 2 loss PAC champ gets in ahead of a 2 loss SEC team?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Really ain't much difference between teams 1-6 in the Big 12. I'll be surprised/impressed if a team gets through with one loss. I wouldn't bet on any of them making the playoff but there's a lot of season left.

OU's coaching staff really let them team down today imo. They have got to stop being so wasteful with timeouts. The two INTs were just laughably bad calls. OU was lucky to win last week so it's hard to get mad when they are on the other side of it this week.

OU will be lucky to get to a bowl with only 3 losses this year. Good chance they lose 2/3 of Baylor, TTech & OSU.

Techa Tech stinks, I think they'll win that game pretty easily. If they beat Baylor, I think they'll finish 10-2 and these two close losses (especially today) will hurt that much more.

 

[Premier]

Honestly just give me the 4 teams from the SEC West and I am confident you will crown the best team in the country.

What the hell does Florida State have to do to impress you people? lol

tough crowd

 

[Smack Tripper]

Honestly just give me the 4 teams from the SEC West and I am confident you will crown the best team in the country.

What the hell does Florida State have to do to impress you people? lol

QBWinston is absolutely sensational. If he gets out if college beating that rape thing, a team would be nuts not to take him as the QB1. Marriotta isn't in his universe. He has such sick field vision and the physical tools to execute on what he sees. I can not believe he is a college sophomore.

 

[Native]

Honestly just give me the 4 teams from the SEC West and I am confident you will crown the best team in the country.

Georgia will smoke any of them in the SECCG

 

[NutterButter]

Honestly just give me the 4 teams from the SEC West and I am confident you will crown the best team in the country.

What the hell does Florida State have to do to impress you people? lol

QBWinston is absolutely sensational. If he gets out if college beating that rape thing, a team would be nuts not to take him as the QB1. Marriotta isn't in his universe. He has such sick field vision and the physical tools to execute on what he sees. I can not believe he is a college sophomore.

Yeah, the guy is phenomenal

 

[Moe.]

Really ain't much difference between teams 1-6 in the Big 12. I'll be surprised/impressed if a team gets through with one loss. I wouldn't bet on any of them making the playoff but there's a lot of season left.

OU's coaching staff really let them team down today imo. They have got to stop being so wasteful with timeouts. The two INTs were just laughably bad calls. OU was lucky to win last week so it's hard to get mad when they are on the other side of it this week.

OU will be lucky to get to a bowl with only 3 losses this year. Good chance they lose 2/3 of Baylor, TTech & OSU.

I actually feel better about the team after this week compared to last week. The QB injury for OSU is huge, I highly doubt we lose to them at home and Baylor can't beat anybody good on the road. I think we finish with three losses max.

 

[Smack Tripper]

If Oregon can get by Stanford, they are in the playoffs.

The PAC champ will be in...barring a 3-loss champ. SEC Champ obviously in. FSU in. From there it's ND, B1G Champ, Big 12 Champ, and SEC #2. ND losing like that was big. And there are going to be 4 SEC teams in the top 6.

My presumption is, ability aside, there will be serious pressure to not OPEN the playoffs with two from the same conference. 3 or 4 years from now, let's see.

 

[Hunterbeer]

That game really hurt a team like Michigan State.

Now ND is going to be ranked above them in the 1-loss team pecking order. They needed a ND win or an FSU blowout.

No, what hurts Michigan St. is the fact the Big 10 is simply TERRIBLE. Look at what happened out of conference earlier this year.

 

[Raider Nation]

Honestly just give me the 4 teams from the SEC West and I am confident you will crown the best team in the country.

What the hell does Florida State have to do to impress you people? lol

QBWinston is absolutely sensational. If he gets out if college beating that rape thing, a team would be nuts not to take him as the QB1. Marriotta isn't in his universe. He has such sick field vision and the physical tools to execute on what he sees. I can not believe he is a college sophomore.

There's gonna be a lot of nutty teams then. McShay was on with Mickey & Mickey the other morning, and he said he spoke with about 1/3 of NFL clubs. The consensus is that Winston's actions have eliminated any chance he has of being one of the first handful of players selected.

 

[gump]

If Oregon can get by Stanford, they are in the playoffs.

The PAC champ will be in...barring a 3-loss champ. SEC Champ obviously in. FSU in. From there it's ND, B1G Champ, Big 12 Champ, and SEC #2. ND losing like that was big. And there are going to be 4 SEC teams in the top 6.

You think a 2 loss PAC champ gets in ahead of a 2 loss SEC team?

Maybe not, but they get in over a 2-loss Big 12 champ or a 1-loss B1G champ.

 

[Christo]

Really ain't much difference between teams 1-6 in the Big 12. I'll be surprised/impressed if a team gets through with one loss. I wouldn't bet on any of them making the playoff but there's a lot of season left.

OU's coaching staff really let them team down today imo. They have got to stop being so wasteful with timeouts. The two INTs were just laughably bad calls. OU was lucky to win last week so it's hard to get mad when they are on the other side of it this week.

OU will be lucky to get to a bowl with only 3 losses this year. Good chance they lose 2/3 of Baylor, TTech & OSU.

I actually feel better about the team after this week compared to last week. The QB injury for OSU is huge, I highly doubt we lose to them at home and Baylor can't beat anybody good on the road. I think we finish with three losses max.

If Heupel and M. Stoops were not the coordinators I'd agree.

 

[NutterButter]

If Oregon can get by Stanford, they are in the playoffs.

The PAC champ will be in...barring a 3-loss champ. SEC Champ obviously in. FSU in. From there it's ND, B1G Champ, Big 12 Champ, and SEC #2. ND losing like that was big. And there are going to be 4 SEC teams in the top 6.

You think a 2 loss PAC champ gets in ahead of a 2 loss SEC team?

Maybe not, but they get in over a 2-loss Big 12 champ or a 1-loss B1G champ.

Definitely the 2 loss Big 12 Champ. Not sure about if its MSU with loss one. It will be interesting see how the committee compares teams with different number of losses. Like how much does it value SOS vs W-L.

 

[GOB]

Honestly just give me the 4 teams from the SEC West and I am confident you will crown the best team in the country.

What the hell does Florida State have to do to impress you people? lol

tough crowd

I never said they didn't deserve to get in. I was just saying I believe by the end of the year I think we will see the team(s) left standing from the SEC West are going to be the best team in the country. Doesn't mean they will win the whole thing but I believe those teams have played the best football up to this point and I do not see that changing. Honestly, FSU has not played a real complete game yet this year. That actually might be a scary thought because they most assuredly are going to get in the playoff.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Honestly just give me the 4 teams from the SEC West and I am confident you will crown the best team in the country.

What the hell does Florida State have to do to impress you people? lol

QBWinston is absolutely sensational. If he gets out if college beating that rape thing, a team would be nuts not to take him as the QB1. Marriotta isn't in his universe. He has such sick field vision and the physical tools to execute on what he sees. I can not believe he is a college sophomore.

There's gonna be a lot of nutty teams then. McShay was on with Mickey & Mickey the other morning, and he said he spoke with about 1/3 of NFL clubs. The consensus is that Winston's actions have eliminated any chance he has of being one of the first handful of players selected.

I'm sure you're right but bad organizations pick high for a reason.

I'm assuming Oakland and jax as some combo of 1-2, so they should be set. SOMEONE is gonna take him and he will slide late to a good organization that may be give him the support he needs to finish the polish of maturation.

If an organization like the jets passes on him, it's outrageous. Guy is qb savant for all his arguable flaws. Kid is a leader and is a surgeon with a cannon.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

How do you take Alabama seriously after almost losing to Arkansas or Georgia seriously for losing to South Carolina and beating Tennessee by three. It's college football, #### varies wildly week to week. TCU is very good. Pretty much every team is flawed this year, Sagarin loves the Big 12 because it's a good conference. If you don't like the style, don't watch.

I'm really not Into conference homerism and I can certainly enjoy the games on some car wreck level but I've heard some saying the big 12 had passed the PAC 10 which is crazy to me, even if the PAC 10 isn't what they were ten years ago.

I just don't see putting tcu and Baylor over ND in the context of the original post I replied to.

I just need a little defense or the threat of it.

The big 12 has clearly passed the big 10 though so I'll split the baby with you there

Big 12 has been better than the Pac 10 for years, they are 30-13 against them in the last 11 years. The past two years it's been close but right now Sagarin has the Big 12 sandwiched between the two Pac 12 divisions, but all pretty even (link and discussion here).

OU beat Bama last year, Bama beat WVU by ten this year, Auburn beat K-State but shouldn't have, and Mizzou beat Okie State last year but the game was awesome. The conferences have played 16 games in this decade, SEC teams average 31 points and Big 12 teams average 28. SEC is the best conference, but they should probably be beating these 90s WAC garbage teams by 50 no?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

ASU Cheerleaders

 

[Spartans Rule]

That game really hurt a team like Michigan State.

Now ND is going to be ranked above them in the 1-loss team pecking order. They needed a ND win or an FSU blowout.

No, what hurts Michigan St. is the fact the Big 10 is simply TERRIBLE. Look at what happened out of conference earlier this year.

The Big Ten being terrible helps Michigan State. They have a realistic chance to go unbeaten in conference play. They couldn't do that in one of the other major conferences.

 

[Hunterbeer]

That game really hurt a team like Michigan State.

Now ND is going to be ranked above them in the 1-loss team pecking order. They needed a ND win or an FSU blowout.

No, what hurts Michigan St. is the fact the Big 10 is simply TERRIBLE. Look at what happened out of conference earlier this year.

The Big Ten being terrible helps Michigan State. They have a realistic chance to go unbeaten in conference play. They couldn't do that in one of the other major conferences.

Okay, true to that, but that also leaves them with no good wins as almost every team in that conference got a failing grade for OOC play this year.

 

[Raider Nation]

ASU Cheerleaders

Nobody ever did it better.

Nobody ever did everyone better!

 

[Doctor Detroit]

ASU Cheerleaders

Nobody ever did it better.

Nobody ever did everyone better!

Who is that? I'm not much of a pop culture guy.

 

[Raider Nation]

Surprised it took so long.

 

[Raider Nation]

ASU Cheerleaders

Nobody ever did it better.

Nobody ever did everyone better!

Who is that? I'm not much of a pop culture guy.

Courtney Simpson. Make sure to check out her work with Max Hardcore. I laughed, I cried, I came.

 

[Smack Tripper]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

How do you take Alabama seriously after almost losing to Arkansas or Georgia seriously for losing to South Carolina and beating Tennessee by three. It's college football, #### varies wildly week to week. TCU is very good. Pretty much every team is flawed this year, Sagarin loves the Big 12 because it's a good conference. If you don't like the style, don't watch.

I'm really not Into conference homerism and I can certainly enjoy the games on some car wreck level but I've heard some saying the big 12 had passed the PAC 10 which is crazy to me, even if the PAC 10 isn't what they were ten years ago.I just don't see putting tcu and Baylor over ND in the context of the original post I replied to.

I just need a little defense or the threat of it.

The big 12 has clearly passed the big 10 though so I'll split the baby with you there

Big 12 has been better than the Pac 10 for years, they are 30-13 against them in the last 11 years. The past two years it's been close but right now Sagarin has the Big 12 sandwiched between the two Pac 12 divisions, but all pretty even (link and discussion here). OU beat Bama last year, Bama beat WVU by ten this year, Auburn beat K-State but shouldn't have, and Mizzou beat Okie State last year but the game was awesome. The conferences have played 16 games in this decade, SEC teams average 31 points and Big 12 teams average 28. SEC is the best conference, but they should probably be beating these 90s WAC garbage teams by 50 no?

I suppose but what is the ppg inside the conference?

I'm also looking at the talent level overall. PAC produces significantly more NFLers.

 

[Smack Tripper]

That game really hurt a team like Michigan State.

Now ND is going to be ranked above them in the 1-loss team pecking order. They needed a ND win or an FSU blowout.

No, what hurts Michigan St. is the fact the Big 10 is simply TERRIBLE. Look at what happened out of conference earlier this year.

The Big Ten being terrible helps Michigan State. They have a realistic chance to go unbeaten in conference play. They couldn't do that in one of the other major conferences.

The big ten reminds me of the chick at the bar who's in her late 30's with attitude that is the last to know she lost it.

Lots of money and influence there but they just are not very good.

Big east with Miami and VT > 2014 big 10

 

[Doctor Detroit]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

How do you take Alabama seriously after almost losing to Arkansas or Georgia seriously for losing to South Carolina and beating Tennessee by three. It's college football, #### varies wildly week to week. TCU is very good. Pretty much every team is flawed this year, Sagarin loves the Big 12 because it's a good conference. If you don't like the style, don't watch.

I'm really not Into conference homerism and I can certainly enjoy the games on some car wreck level but I've heard some saying the big 12 had passed the PAC 10 which is crazy to me, even if the PAC 10 isn't what they were ten years ago.I just don't see putting tcu and Baylor over ND in the context of the original post I replied to.

I just need a little defense or the threat of it.

The big 12 has clearly passed the big 10 though so I'll split the baby with you there

Big 12 has been better than the Pac 10 for years, they are 30-13 against them in the last 11 years. The past two years it's been close but right now Sagarin has the Big 12 sandwiched between the two Pac 12 divisions, but all pretty even (link and discussion here). OU beat Bama last year, Bama beat WVU by ten this year, Auburn beat K-State but shouldn't have, and Mizzou beat Okie State last year but the game was awesome. The conferences have played 16 games in this decade, SEC teams average 31 points and Big 12 teams average 28. SEC is the best conference, but they should probably be beating these 90s WAC garbage teams by 50 no?

I suppose but what is the ppg inside the conference?

I'm also looking at the talent level overall. PAC produces significantly more NFLers.

Ok, great. So the 30-13 head-to-head record doesn't matter to you?

Also in the past ten years the ACC has produced more NFL players than any conference but the SEC. So the ACC is the second best conference? Neat.

 

[AAABatteries]

Courtney Simpson. Make sure to check out her work with Max Hardcore. I laughed, I cried, I came.

On December 2, 2005, The Arizona Republic reported that Arizona State University officials were looking into any legal claims they might have in relation to a possible infringement of trademarks and intellectual property over Simpson performing in an ASU cheerleader uniform in the pornographic video Gina Lynn’s Double Dutch.[7] The film's producer, Gina Lynn, ultimately decided to reverse the uniform on the video's box cover so the initials said "USA" and not "ASU", and also to blur out the uniform during the time Simpson wears it on-screen.[3] Simpson continued shooting films during the controversy, working five to six days per week.[2]

USA! USA! USA!

 

[Smack Tripper]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

How do you take Alabama seriously after almost losing to Arkansas or Georgia seriously for losing to South Carolina and beating Tennessee by three. It's college football, #### varies wildly week to week. TCU is very good. Pretty much every team is flawed this year, Sagarin loves the Big 12 because it's a good conference. If you don't like the style, don't watch.

I'm really not Into conference homerism and I can certainly enjoy the games on some car wreck level but I've heard some saying the big 12 had passed the PAC 10 which is crazy to me, even if the PAC 10 isn't what they were ten years ago.I just don't see putting tcu and Baylor over ND in the context of the original post I replied to.

I just need a little defense or the threat of it.

The big 12 has clearly passed the big 10 though so I'll split the baby with you there

Big 12 has been better than the Pac 10 for years, they are 30-13 against them in the last 11 years. The past two years it's been close but right now Sagarin has the Big 12 sandwiched between the two Pac 12 divisions, but all pretty even (link and discussion here). OU beat Bama last year, Bama beat WVU by ten this year, Auburn beat K-State but shouldn't have, and Mizzou beat Okie State last year but the game was awesome. The conferences have played 16 games in this decade, SEC teams average 31 points and Big 12 teams average 28. SEC is the best conference, but they should probably be beating these 90s WAC garbage teams by 50 no?

I suppose but what is the ppg inside the conference?I'm also looking at the talent level overall. PAC produces significantly more NFLers.

Ok, great. So the 30-13 head-to-head record doesn't matter to you? Also in the past ten years the ACC has produced more NFL players than any conference but the SEC. So the ACC is the second best conference? Neat.

30-13 certainly matters but i guess I respond better to the brand of football generally played in the PAC, the Oregon and their dopey ball aside. And I hate you for even taking me down this road as I hate the PAC 10, but I think nfl talent does shed some light on the overall level of your conference. You can knock the ACC but I don't think a big 12 teams plays within two TD of Fsu. If you want to tell me the 3-6 teams are better in the big 12, i can believe it but at the top I don't consider any of those squads a national power of a playoff team

 

[Hunterbeer]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

How do you take Alabama seriously after almost losing to Arkansas or Georgia seriously for losing to South Carolina and beating Tennessee by three. It's college football, #### varies wildly week to week. TCU is very good. Pretty much every team is flawed this year, Sagarin loves the Big 12 because it's a good conference. If you don't like the style, don't watch.

I'm really not Into conference homerism and I can certainly enjoy the games on some car wreck level but I've heard some saying the big 12 had passed the PAC 10 which is crazy to me, even if the PAC 10 isn't what they were ten years ago.I just don't see putting tcu and Baylor over ND in the context of the original post I replied to.

I just need a little defense or the threat of it.

The big 12 has clearly passed the big 10 though so I'll split the baby with you there

Big 12 has been better than the Pac 10 for years, they are 30-13 against them in the last 11 years. The past two years it's been close but right now Sagarin has the Big 12 sandwiched between the two Pac 12 divisions, but all pretty even (link and discussion here). OU beat Bama last year, Bama beat WVU by ten this year, Auburn beat K-State but shouldn't have, and Mizzou beat Okie State last year but the game was awesome. The conferences have played 16 games in this decade, SEC teams average 31 points and Big 12 teams average 28. SEC is the best conference, but they should probably be beating these 90s WAC garbage teams by 50 no?

I suppose but what is the ppg inside the conference?I'm also looking at the talent level overall. PAC produces significantly more NFLers.

Ok, great. So the 30-13 head-to-head record doesn't matter to you? Also in the past ten years the ACC has produced more NFL players than any conference but the SEC. So the ACC is the second best conference? Neat.

30-13 certainly matters but i guess I respond better to the brand of football generally played in the PAC, the Oregon and their dopey ball aside. And I hate you for even taking me down this road as I hate the PAC 10, but I think nfl talent does shed some light on the overall level of your conference. You can knock the ACC but I don't think a big 12 teams plays within two TD of Fsu. If you want to tell me the 3-6 teams are better in the big 12, i can believe it but at the top I don't consider any of those squads a national power of a playoff team

Excuse me?!?! Oklahoma State, a team that is 5th best in conference at best, only lost to FSU by 6 on a neutral field. Six is less than two TDs last I heard.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

I thought we had this pissing match last year.

I'm not an sec honk and believe I called auburn to beat just about anyone last year, but I'll do it again this year...

The team to watch out for this year is georgia.

No big 12 team sniffs their jock home, away or neutral field. If they can sneak in the final 4 and get on a roll, that's your sleeper.

 

[Smack Tripper]

In no particular order, I would take these teams at 1 loss over ND:

FSU

Oregon

Auburn

Alabama

Ole Miss

Miss St.

Baylor

Georgia

TCU

That is assuming a ton but ND is going to finish without a signature win. @ASU is their best chance, that is a top 15 team at best.

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

How do you take Alabama seriously after almost losing to Arkansas or Georgia seriously for losing to South Carolina and beating Tennessee by three. It's college football, #### varies wildly week to week. TCU is very good. Pretty much every team is flawed this year, Sagarin loves the Big 12 because it's a good conference. If you don't like the style, don't watch.

I'm really not Into conference homerism and I can certainly enjoy the games on some car wreck level but I've heard some saying the big 12 had passed the PAC 10 which is crazy to me, even if the PAC 10 isn't what they were ten years ago.I just don't see putting tcu and Baylor over ND in the context of the original post I replied to.

I just need a little defense or the threat of it.

The big 12 has clearly passed the big 10 though so I'll split the baby with you there

Big 12 has been better than the Pac 10 for years, they are 30-13 against them in the last 11 years. The past two years it's been close but right now Sagarin has the Big 12 sandwiched between the two Pac 12 divisions, but all pretty even (link and discussion here). OU beat Bama last year, Bama beat WVU by ten this year, Auburn beat K-State but shouldn't have, and Mizzou beat Okie State last year but the game was awesome. The conferences have played 16 games in this decade, SEC teams average 31 points and Big 12 teams average 28. SEC is the best conference, but they should probably be beating these 90s WAC garbage teams by 50 no?

I suppose but what is the ppg inside the conference?I'm also looking at the talent level overall. PAC produces significantly more NFLers.

Ok, great. So the 30-13 head-to-head record doesn't matter to you? Also in the past ten years the ACC has produced more NFL players than any conference but the SEC. So the ACC is the second best conference? Neat.

30-13 certainly matters but i guess I respond better to the brand of football generally played in the PAC, the Oregon and their dopey ball aside. And I hate you for even taking me down this road as I hate the PAC 10, but I think nfl talent does shed some light on the overall level of your conference. You can knock the ACC but I don't think a big 12 teams plays within two TD of Fsu. If you want to tell me the 3-6 teams are better in the big 12, i can believe it but at the top I don't consider any of those squads a national power of a playoff team

Excuse me?!?! Oklahoma State, a team that is 5th best in conference at best, only lost to FSU by 6 on a neutral field. Six is less than two TDs last I heard.

In week 1, not the Fsu you're seeing now. I also wouldn't call dallas a pure neutral field.

Who is the best the big 12 has to offer in your opinion as of tonight?

 

[Raider Nation]

Stupid question: they mentioned today during the game that Baylor's MLB was "finally" given a scholarship in this, his senior season. Does that mean only his senior season is taken care of, or does he get reimbursed for the cost of his first three years of schooling as well?

 

[JaxBill]

In a couple weeks, UGA against the shell of the artist formerly known as UF(led by a dead man walking), could be very ugly.

 

[JaxBill]

Stupid question: they mentioned today during the game that Baylor's MLB was "finally" given a scholarship in this, his senior season. Does that mean only his senior season is taken care of, or does he get reimbursed for the cost of his first three years of schooling as well?

I would think only his senior season. Most schools don't offer a 4 yr scholarship, it's really year to year