*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

Nevada and BYU could be heading to OT if the Cougs can drive the length of the field in under two minutes. ESPN2.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

In a couple weeks, UGA against the shell of the artist formerly known as UF(led by a dead man walking), could be very ugly.

And I'm hoping for 30 -0 and muschamp doesn't make it back to gainesville (assuming he makes it through this week).

 

[Hunterbeer]

I really have not liked them much this year, but it is hard to argue with K-State right now. Played Auburn tooth and nail and won at Oklahoma. I really think the top 3 (Baylor, TCU, K-State) are evenly matched. Baylor looked bad today, but when looking good they are near impossible to stop. Would they beat the Alabama that played today? No. Would they beat the Alabama that played Arkansas? Definitely. As for the Pac 12 -- A bad Texas team played UCLA to a FG, but there is not much else to compare. But I definitely think the top-3, if not 4, could play FSU w/i two TDs -- and I like FSU's team.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

If Oregon can get by Stanford, they are in the playoffs.

I expect Oregon to win @ Cal and vs. Stanford to go 8-1. I think you're underestimating Utah, though. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Utes take them down in SLC on 11/8.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

lol, teams are 147-2 in the last ten years when holding an opponent to 120 yards offense of less.

Both losses belong to Florida.

I'm struggling to figure out how this game happened.

FSU did have four interceptions, one for a score and two that set up the short TDs. But they had the ball for more than half the game and still managed only 95 yards of offense? With Manuel at QB and Devonta Freeman at RB? Bizarro.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

lol, teams are 147-2 in the last ten years when holding an opponent to 120 yards offense of less.

Both losses belong to Florida.

I'm struggling to figure out how this game happened.

FSU did have four interceptions, one for a score and two that set up the short TDs. But they had the ball for more than half the game and still managed only 95 yards of offense? With Manuel at QB and Devonta Freeman at RB? Bizarro.

I remember posting during that game that if Florida just punted on first down every time they got the ball, they might win.

 

[Raider Nation]

https://twitter.com/MdotPaco1/status/523694584313163777

 

[Premier]

https://twitter.com/MdotPaco1/status/523694584313163777

Yea, it was an illegal pick then too. Good post.

 

[jurb26]

My current playoff scenario.

Top 4 in.

1. Miss St. vs. 4. Auburn

2. FSU vs. 3. Ole Miss

1st 4 out;

Alabama

Mich. St

ND

Oregon

SEC haters heads will explode if this happens, and it won't. Right now however this is how it probably looks.

 

[Smack Tripper]

This is the way i saw the nd-Fsu finish, defender does initiate contact on the slant

http://thebiglead.com/2014/10/19/notre-dame-got-screwed-in-tallahassee-by-the-referees/

 

[bigmarc27]

I get that everyone hates on FSU now because of Jameis and I'm guilty of it too, but how anyone thinks that shouldn't have been called is beyond me. It's already nearly impossible to defend anyone as a DB and now you want the WRs to be able to plow right into a guy to free others up? If that was legal it'd be impossible to ever stop any routes.

 

[bigmarc27]

My current playoff scenario.

Top 4 in.

1. Miss St. vs. 4. Auburn

2. FSU vs. 3. Ole Miss

1st 4 out;

Alabama

Mich. St

ND

Oregon

SEC haters heads will explode if this happens, and it won't. Right now however this is how it probably looks.

Currently yes, but I don't think the state of Mississippi gets two in - one of the two has to lose to end their regular season and a 1 loss Bama or Auburn will go just on name alone. I also don't see 3 sec teams - not in year 1 of he the playoff. The people deciding this have national appeal and tiebreakers will keep 3 from any conference from going.

So...

Miss St or Ole Miss

FSU

Oregon if they win out

ND if they yet win out

If Auburn or Bama back into the sec title game and win, then I can see that team + a 1 loss Miss team over Oregon or ND.

 

[bleachercreacher]

I get that everyone hates on FSU now because of Jameis and I'm guilty of it too, but how anyone thinks that shouldn't have been called is beyond me. It's already nearly impossible to defend anyone as a DB and now you want the WRs to be able to plow right into a guy to free others up? If that was legal it'd be impossible to ever stop any routes.

It's perfectly legal when the DB grabs a guy and holds him. What's he supposed to do at that point? After contact is made from the defender, he's allowed to fight thru the contact. Admittedly he wasn't trying hard to fight they the contact, but the defensive holding occurred first.

 

[Christo]

Baylor and tcu are trash. Big 12 is fraud city.

How many TCU games have you seen this year? Zero or zero?

Three. Garbage 90s WAC football on steroids in the big 12. How do I take tcu seriously after last week?

How do you take Alabama seriously after almost losing to Arkansas or Georgia seriously for losing to South Carolina and beating Tennessee by three. It's college football, #### varies wildly week to week. TCU is very good. Pretty much every team is flawed this year, Sagarin loves the Big 12 because it's a good conference. If you don't like the style, don't watch.

I'm really not Into conference homerism and I can certainly enjoy the games on some car wreck level but I've heard some saying the big 12 had passed the PAC 10 which is crazy to me, even if the PAC 10 isn't what they were ten years ago.I just don't see putting tcu and Baylor over ND in the context of the original post I replied to.

I just need a little defense or the threat of it.

The big 12 has clearly passed the big 10 though so I'll split the baby with you there

Big 12 has been better than the Pac 10 for years, they are 30-13 against them in the last 11 years. The past two years it's been close but right now Sagarin has the Big 12 sandwiched between the two Pac 12 divisions, but all pretty even (link and discussion here). OU beat Bama last year, Bama beat WVU by ten this year, Auburn beat K-State but shouldn't have, and Mizzou beat Okie State last year but the game was awesome. The conferences have played 16 games in this decade, SEC teams average 31 points and Big 12 teams average 28. SEC is the best conference, but they should probably be beating these 90s WAC garbage teams by 50 no?

I suppose but what is the ppg inside the conference?I'm also looking at the talent level overall. PAC produces significantly more NFLers.

Ok, great. So the 30-13 head-to-head record doesn't matter to you? Also in the past ten years the ACC has produced more NFL players than any conference but the SEC. So the ACC is the second best conference? Neat.

30-13 certainly matters but i guess I respond better to the brand of football generally played in the PAC, the Oregon and their dopey ball aside. And I hate you for even taking me down this road as I hate the PAC 10, but I think nfl talent does shed some light on the overall level of your conference. You can knock the ACC but I don't think a big 12 teams plays within two TD of Fsu. If you want to tell me the 3-6 teams are better in the big 12, i can believe it but at the top I don't consider any of those squads a national power of a playoff team

Excuse me?!?! Oklahoma State, a team that is 5th best in conference at best, only lost to FSU by 6 on a neutral field. Six is less than two TDs last I heard.

Lots of dumb in here. Baylor may not have played anyone OOC. But OSU played FSU within a TD. KSU played Auburn within a TD. WVA lost to Bama by 10. Hell, ISU won at Iowa. And OU blasted UT by 24 when UGA only managed to beat them by 3.

 

[bigmarc27]

Not that I disagree with your overall point but transitive property arguments are stupid in general.

 

[Christo]

Not that I disagree with your overall point but transitive property arguments are stupid in general.

It was a stupid argument to start with. If I'm going to jump in I'm going to jump in the deep end.

 

[Slapdash]

Neat board

 

[Premier]

This is the way i saw the nd-Fsu finish, defender does initiate contact on the slant

http://thebiglead.com/2014/10/19/notre-dame-got-screwed-in-tallahassee-by-the-referees/

it was one of the most egregious picks I've ever seen. Two guys are drive-blocking like it's a RB counter. Even mega homer Lou Holtz agreed with the call.

 

[fasteddie_21]

If Oregon can get by Stanford, they are in the playoffs.

I expect Oregon to win @ Cal and vs. Stanford to go 8-1. I think you're underestimating Utah, though. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Utes take them down in SLC on 11/8.

I am legitimately worried about that game, trust me.

 

[fasteddie_21]

My current playoff scenario.

Top 4 in.

1. Miss St. vs. 4. Auburn

2. FSU vs. 3. Ole Miss

1st 4 out;

Alabama

Mich. St

ND

Oregon

SEC haters heads will explode if this happens, and it won't. Right now however this is how it probably looks.

But since 3 of those 4 play each other, this is moot. But hard to argue at this moment.

 

[Quez]

The PI call that set ND up for one of their early TDs was a pretty bad call. If that's what we are doing here.

 

[Christo]

This is the way i saw the nd-Fsu finish, defender does initiate contact on the slant

http://thebiglead.com/2014/10/19/notre-dame-got-screwed-in-tallahassee-by-the-referees/

it was one of the most egregious picks I've ever seen. Two guys are drive-blocking like it's a RB counter.Even mega homer Lou Holtz agreed with the call.

Smack bringing a lot of silliness to the thread. When they showed the replay I just laughed.

 

[jurb26]

My current playoff scenario.

Top 4 in.

1. Miss St. vs. 4. Auburn

2. FSU vs. 3. Ole Miss

1st 4 out;

Alabama

Mich. St

ND

Oregon

SEC haters heads will explode if this happens, and it won't. Right now however this is how it probably looks.

But since 3 of those 4 play each other, this is moot. But hard to argue at this moment.

Exactly. It won't happen. I'd say Alabama and UGA have as good a chance of making it as any of those 3 SEC teams by seasons end.

 

[gump]

Jameis will have to play lights out in the playoff for the Noles, because that defense is just not good.

 

[gump]

I thought we had this pissing match last year.

I'm not an sec honk and believe I called auburn to beat just about anyone last year, but I'll do it again this year...

The team to watch out for this year is georgia.

No big 12 team sniffs their jock home, away or neutral field. If they can sneak in the final 4 and get on a roll, that's your sleeper.

I've been pointing them out for a few weeks...the East is really weak, and they get AU at home. Fully healthy they can definitely win in Atlanta...especially since their opponent will be coming off a massive rivalry game.

 

[Tom Servo]

This is the way i saw the nd-Fsu finish, defender does initiate contact on the slanthttp://thebiglead.com/2014/10/19/notre-dame-got-screwed-in-tallahassee-by-the-referees/

it was one of the most egregious picks I've ever seen. Two guys are drive-blocking like it's a RB counter. Even mega homer Lou Holtz agreed with the call.

The pick happened out there for everybody to see. Only a Domer Homer thinks it wasn't.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

10. TCU

9. Georgia

8. Oregon

7. Michigan State

6. ND

5. Auburn

4. BAMA

3. Ole Miss

2. FSU

1. MISSISSIPPI STATE BULLDOGS!!!!!!

 

[scottybo]

1. Miss St
2. FSU
2. Ole Miss
4. Michigan State
5. Auburn
6. Georgia
7. Oregon

8. Alabama
9. Kansas State
10. Notre Dame

I was a little harder on Bama in my last top 10. Still waiting to see a good Away performance before moving them into my top 5.

 

[Premier]

Michigan State over Oregon is good shtick.

 

[scottybo]

Michigan State over Oregon is good shtick.

Loss vs ranked team > Loss vs unranked team

 

[Premier]

Michigan State over Oregon is good shtick.

Loss vs ranked team > Loss vs unranked team

Yea ok

 

[GOB]

1. Miss St

2. FSU

2. Ole Miss

4. Michigan State

5. Auburn

6. Georgia

7. Oregon

8. Alabama

9. Ohio State

10. Notre Dame

I was a little harder on Bama in my last top 10. Still waiting to see a good Away performance before moving them into my top 5.

Ohio State at 9 seems crazy when you consider their best win is probably Rutgers. Even ND has a better resume...by a lot.

 

[Premier]

Let's just all agree that we are glad that Scottybo won't be in that committee room in early December.

 

[NutterButter]

This is the way i saw the nd-Fsu finish, defender does initiate contact on the slant

http://thebiglead.com/2014/10/19/notre-dame-got-screwed-in-tallahassee-by-the-referees/

Yeah, really questionable call. Like I said earlier, that doesn't get called regularly in the middle of the game. You sure as hell don't call that on the 2nd to last play.

 

[scottybo]

Let's just all agree that we are glad that Scottybo won't be in that committee room in early December.

1-4 is all that matters if we're talking playoff teams. My #4 team is the only one that differs from the major rankings. What an idiotic statement.

 

[scottybo]

1. Miss St

2. FSU

2. Ole Miss

4. Michigan State

5. Auburn

6. Georgia

7. Oregon

8. Alabama

9. Ohio State

10. Notre Dame

I was a little harder on Bama in my last top 10. Still waiting to see a good Away performance before moving them into my top 5.

Ohio State at 9 seems crazy when you consider their best win is probably Rutgers. Even ND has a better resume...by a lot

Should have read "Kansas State". Fixed.

 

[gump]

[icon] - anxiously awaiting your weekly Alabama update...but in the meantime:

It's the Third Saturday in October!

 

[timschochet]

1. Florida State

2. Miss St

3. Ole Miss

4. Alabama

5. Oregon

Nobody else matters really.

 

[gump]

Oregon -16 at Cal

Auburn -15 vs SCar

State -13 at UK

TCU -20 vs TTU

Bama -15.5 at UT

Mich St -15.5 vs Mich

Ole Miss -3 at LSU

Ariz -3.5 at Wash St

Utah PK vs USC

Ok St -3.5 vs WVU

K St -13 vs Texas

Oh St -11.5 at PSU

 

[Christo]

1. Florida State

2. Miss St

3. Ole Miss

4. Alabama

5. Oregon

Nobody else matters really.

 

[scottybo]

Oregon -16 at Cal

Auburn -15 vs SCar

State -13 at UK

TCU -20 vs TTU

Bama -15.5 at UT

Mich St -15.5 vs Mich

Ole Miss -3 at LSU

Ariz -3.5 at Wash St

Utah PK vs USC

Ok St -3.5 vs WVU

K St -13 vs Texas

Oh St -11.5 at PSU

Ole Miss only favored by 3? Weird. Guess they give LSU some credit.

 

[Jayded]

Brian Kelly on the play: "Refs answer gave me even less clarity by calling it on Fuller. Adds more uncertainty to final play. Fuller didn't go out of his way to impeded the defender and the official furthest from the play threw the flag. Officials also missed FSU penalty for the player who removed his helmet after the pass to Robinson. Refs admitted they missed call on player removing helmet."

At worst, it should have been offsetting penalties with ND getting another shot at the 3 on 4th down. I'm glad Kelly isn't dropping this if nothing for the political positioning required now with the 4 team playoff.

 

[uconnalum]

Does anybody know who would represent the SEC West if Ole Miss wins Egg Bowl and Auburn, Ole Miss and Miss. State all end up with 1 loss.

Auburn losing to Miss. State

Ole Miss losing to Auburn

Miss State losing to Ole Miss

 

[scottybo]

Does anybody know who would represent the SEC West if Ole Miss wins Egg Bowl and Auburn, Ole Miss and Miss. State all end up with 1 loss.

Auburn losing to Miss. State

Ole Miss losing to Auburn

Miss State losing to Ole Miss

Three-Team Tie (or more)

If three teams (or more) are tied for a division title, the following procedure will be used in the following order: (Note: If one of the procedures results in one team being eliminated and two remaining, the two-team tiebreaker procedure as stated in No. 1 above will be used):

A. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams

B. Record of the tied teams within the division

C. Head-to-head competition against the team within the division with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place)

D. Overall Conference record against non-divisional teams

E. Combined record against all common non-divisional teams

F. Record against the common non-divisional team with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division; and

G. Changed: Combined SEC record of the team’s cross-divisional opponents

 

[gump]

Does anybody know who would represent the SEC West if Ole Miss wins Egg Bowl and Auburn, Ole Miss and Miss. State all end up with 1 loss.

Auburn losing to Miss. State

Ole Miss losing to Auburn

Miss State losing to Ole Miss

Sam scenario with Bama replacing AU.

I believe it comes down to SEC East opponents records. So both Bama and AU are sitting pretty having not played Vandy.

 

[uconnalum]

Gump I read those and I just quit I will let the committee figure it out.

 

[uconnalum]

In all honesty I think the Playoff committee does not want to see Georgia from the East win the SEC Championship because you can possibly have two 1 loss SEC Schools ranked in the AP Top 5 waiting for a call to see if they made the 4 team playoffs. (Hypothetically say Georgia beat Ole Miss in the title game)

If you are going to automatically include Georgia for winning the SEC Title and FSU for winning out and winning the ACC.

How does the committee choose other conference teams over Auburn who wins out and is possibly ranked 3rd in the country that they are not worthy of a spot.

How does the committee say the same thing to Missippi State who was undefeated and ranked 1st going into the Egg Bowl but came up short and lost to Ole Miss and they dropped to 4th in the AP.

This can cause mayhem for the committee if Georgia won the SEC Title

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Does anybody know who would represent the SEC West if Ole Miss wins Egg Bowl and Auburn, Ole Miss and Miss. State all end up with 1 loss.

Auburn losing to Miss. State

Ole Miss losing to Auburn

Miss State losing to Ole Miss

Three-Team Tie (or more)

If three teams (or more) are tied for a division title, the following procedure will be used in the following order: (Note: If one of the procedures results in one team being eliminated and two remaining, the two-team tiebreaker procedure as stated in No. 1 above will be used):

A. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams

B. Record of the tied teams within the division

C. Head-to-head competition against the team within the division with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place)

D. Overall Conference record against non-divisional teams

E. Combined record against all common non-divisional teams

F. Record against the common non-divisional team with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division; and

G. Changed: Combined SEC record of the team’s cross-divisional opponents

Do you have the scenarios for the ACC Coastal division if all 7 teams finish 4-4 in the division? LOL

 

[gump]

Gump I read those and I just quit I will let the committee figure it out.

AU is clearly in, with UGA and SC....Alabama will be closer, but if Tenn beats Vandy then they should be in too.

 

[Dippa]

In all honesty I think the Playoff committee does not want to see Georgia from the East win the SEC Championship because you can possibly have two 1 loss SEC Schools ranked in the AP Top 5 waiting for a call to see if they made the 4 team playoffs. (Hypothetically say Georgia beat Ole Miss in the title game)

If you are going to automatically include Georgia for winning the SEC Title and FSU for winning out and winning the ACC.

How does the committee choose other conference teams over Auburn who wins out and is possibly ranked 3rd in the country that they are not worthy of a spot.

How does the committee say the same thing to Missippi State who was undefeated and ranked 1st going into the Egg Bowl but came up short and lost to Ole Miss and they dropped to 4th in the AP.

This can cause mayhem for the committee if Georgia won the SEC Title

UGA plays Auburn, so they can't both win out. Ole Miss also plays Auburn. At least one of those three will have 2+ losses.