*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[gump]

I guess I haven't watched the correct Missouri games this year. I get a different impression of that team. They've had some decent wins, but a really crappy loss to Indiana that I keep forgetting about. That said, I doubt Tenn is in the top 50 of anything notable. Missouri is really a dog in that game?

Since UT made the switch to Dobbs at QB, they've beaten South Carolina and Kentucky. Nothing earth-shattering, but he looks like the real deal.

Certainly seems like it, but it seems to me that Missouri's just a bit better than those schools. They beat S Carolina and Kentucky too right?

Being @ UT is probably the deciding line factor. Both are coming are big wins actually.

 

[JaxBill]

Why isn't there an early signing period for CFB??

MSU recruit's scholarship pulled and not happy about it

Is it classless or a sign Mullen's headed somewhere else??

ETA: To be fair....they asked him to grayshirt...didn't pull it right out from under him. It's a dubious distinction, but one I know the FFA will focus on...just clearing the air at the start.

Business as usual in the SEC when you take 35 commitments every year knowing you can't sign them all.

But this version makes it sound worse when supposedly Miss St pushed him to graduate early and enroll only to pull his scholly

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2275867-mississippi-state-pulls-qb-chason-virgils-scholarship-16-days-before-graduation

Again, maybe this goes on all of the time but given the HS coach reaction it seems somebody was done wrong

 

[GDogg]

What did you want them to do, exceed their limit and lose future scholarships?

Honor their commitment to the young man? Not really that complicated Or, if that's too difficult, be honest with him on where he stands with the program. That's probably too difficult as well. Guess they should just keep screwing kids over with no recourse.

You do realize that of every program only offered the number of scholarships they had, less kids would get scholarships right?

At some point before it's kind of a "point of no return" it's a #### move to ask a kid to grey shirt or outright pull a scholarship. Less than two weeks before the kid is set to graduate and enroll at your school is a pretty late hour to be telling him he's not to set foot on campus for another year. It's the same thing as if this happened in mid-January.

And, since the kid is an early enrollee, his enrollment is not going to make them exceed their limit. It's taking the kid after him in February that will cause that to happen.

I have no problems with telling a kid he's no longer in your plans, but you can't let it get this far and then flip your stance on him. This goes on at a bunch of schools, though, including UCLA. But, it usually happens right around now through New Year's Day. This is the time when a bunch of kids will suddenly open up their recruitments and usually just say that they wanted to look around. The truth is that a lot of them are being told that their school had guys higher on their board who have indicated that they are likely to choose them and there is no longer room at the inn, so to speak.

UCLA benefited from this two years ago when Southern Cal told Eldridge Massington they didn't have an early enrollee spot for him any longer, but that he could come in during the Fall. He was open about it, decommitted, and then committed to UCLA. He's now probably the second best WR on the team.

 

[Christo]

What did you want them to do, exceed their limit and lose future scholarships?

Honor their commitment to the young man? Not really that complicated Or, if that's too difficult, be honest with him on where he stands with the program. That's probably too difficult as well. Guess they should just keep screwing kids over with no recourse.

You do realize that of every program only offered the number of scholarships they had, less kids would get scholarships right?

WTF?

 

[Peyton Marino]

Would be pretty awesome to see OSU blow out Indiana tomorrow and then watch Mizzou run the table and win the SEC championship game. JoeT's head would explode.

 

[Raider Nation]

Jesus, what an absolutely dreadful slate of games today. <_< Looks like I can catch up on some sleep.

 

[Premier]

Jesus, what an absolutely dreadful slate of games today. <_< Looks like I can catch up on some sleep.

It's a horrible slate of games but only 1.5 weeks left after this.

They have to do something about these late November schedules.

 

[The Commish]

Jesus, what an absolutely dreadful slate of games today. <_< Looks like I can catch up on some sleep.

Haven't looked at the schedule....must be SEC vs FCS week. Are there really only a couple weeks left in the season already?!?!

 

[Joe T]

Would be pretty awesome to see OSU blow out Indiana tomorrow and then watch Mizzou run the table and win the SEC championship game. JoeT's head would explode.

I don't know if my head would explode because I actually root for chaos at the end of the season which is almost a guarantee anyway. Unlikely at it is, I still like your scenario just for the mayhem.

I think a more likely scenario is that four or so teams in the top 6 lose over the next few weeks as is the norm and a team like Ole Miss slips into the playoffs and everyone continues to ##### about an SEC bias. We haven't even had the annual Oregon crap the bed week yet. I could see Baylor, Oregon, Mississippi State, and Ohio State all losing in the coming weeks and have a final four of something like Bama, FSU, TCU, Ole Miss.

Like I said, I hope for chaos and more #####ing by the anti-SEC honks.

 

[jurb26]

Been saying this for about 10 years. Looks like coaches want 8 team playoff as well.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11915335/fbs-coaches-prefer-eight-team-playoff-espn-poll-shows

 

[Premier]

We haven't even had the annual Oregon crap the bed week yet.

I swear it's almost like the Arizona loss (as a 3-TD favorite) didn't happen.

The mob doesn't cover up things this well.

 

[Peyton Marino]

I hadn't realized football outsiders had NCAA stats until earlier this week when someone posted a link. Just kind of browsing this morning, I came upon this. Check out who's number 1

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

What did you want them to do, exceed their limit and lose future scholarships?

Honor their commitment to the young man? Not really that complicated Or, if that's too difficult, be honest with him on where he stands with the program. That's probably too difficult as well. Guess they should just keep screwing kids over with no recourse.

You do realize that of every program only offered the number of scholarships they had, less kids would get scholarships right?

WTF?

It's really not that complicated chief.

 

[Christo]

What did you want them to do, exceed their limit and lose future scholarships?

Honor their commitment to the young man? Not really that complicated Or, if that's too difficult, be honest with him on where he stands with the program. That's probably too difficult as well. Guess they should just keep screwing kids over with no recourse.

You do realize that of every program only offered the number of scholarships they had, less kids would get scholarships right?

WTF?

It's really not that complicated chief.

No, it's dumb. So your theory is that if School A had 20 scholarships and offered them to 20 kids but 3 of those kids went to different schools on signing day School A would just sit on those 3 scholarships rather than offering them to other kids? You do realize that there are more kids than scholarships, right?

 

[Joe T]

We haven't even had the annual Oregon crap the bed week yet.

I swear it's almost like the Arizona loss (as a 3-TD favorite) didn't happen. The mob doesn't cover up things this well.

Too early in the year. I'm waiting on the late season crap the pants.

 

[Jayded]

Been saying this for about 10 years. Looks like coaches want 8 team playoff as well.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11915335/fbs-coaches-prefer-eight-team-playoff-espn-poll-shows

I think most people assumed it'd eventually get to this. With five power conferences and only 4 teams making it, at least one conference was always going to be left out.

The trick becomes how do you do this? My initial guess would be that they take the conference champs, highest ranking nonP5 team (if ranked above a conference champ) and two/three at-large teams.

The biggest complaint I have is expanding things really starts to open the door for questions about teams that possibly shouldn't have playoff complaints. Right now people talk about MSU, Baylor, TCU, and Ohio State on the bubble. In that scenario, you're talking more about Ole Miss, Georgia, and UCLA. I, personally, prefer the former. If you lose at all, you run the risk of not getting in.

I'd be curious to others' thoughts on a six team playoff? Imagine P5 conference champs and one at-large. Give the top two seeds a bye during the conference title weekend. Play 3-6, 4-5 at the higher ranked site that weekend and have the final four play as they do with the current playoff configuration.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Been saying this for about 10 years. Looks like coaches want 8 team playoff as well.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11915335/fbs-coaches-prefer-eight-team-playoff-espn-poll-shows

I think most people assumed it'd eventually get to this. With five power conferences and only 4 teams making it, at least one conference was always going to be left out.

The trick becomes how do you do this? My initial guess would be that they take the conference champs, highest ranking nonP5 team (if ranked above a conference champ) and two/three at-large teams.

The biggest complaint I have is expanding things really starts to open the door for questions about teams that possibly shouldn't have playoff complaints. Right now people talk about MSU, Baylor, TCU, and Ohio State on the bubble. In that scenario, you're talking more about Ole Miss, Georgia, and UCLA. I, personally, prefer the former. If you lose at all, you run the risk of not getting in.

I'd be curious to others' thoughts on a six team playoff? Imagine P5 conference champs and one at-large. Give the top two seeds a bye during the conference title weekend. Play 3-6, 4-5 at the higher ranked site that weekend and have the final four play as they do with the current playoff configuration.

This might actually work as well as an 8 teamer. Instead of just trying to "get in" there would be extra incentive to get one of the top 2 spots ,like the NFL does with playoff byes.

 

[oso diablo]

siap, but a 4* top recruit in Texas (class of 2017) decommitted from MissSt, and his dad indicated that it has something to do with that other kid getting his scholarship pulled.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Not sure 6 teams is enough to be giving the Big 10 an automatic berth.

 

[General Malaise]

Taking Kansas +25 vs OU since they almost beat TCU. My handicapping has come to this.

 

[The Ref]

Anyone know why the OU Kansas game is in delay?

 

[General Malaise]

Anyone know why the OU Kansas game is in delay?

Weather delay. Guessing thunderstorm but not sure on that.

 

[General Malaise]

Colorado recruiting students to play DB today. Mariota should have a field day en route to securing the Heisman.

 

[The Ref]

Anyone know why the OU Kansas game is in delay?

Weather delay. Guessing thunderstorm but not sure on that.

Just saw it on the ticker - thanks

 

[Jayded]

Been saying this for about 10 years. Looks like coaches want 8 team playoff as well.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11915335/fbs-coaches-prefer-eight-team-playoff-espn-poll-shows

I think most people assumed it'd eventually get to this. With five power conferences and only 4 teams making it, at least one conference was always going to be left out.The trick becomes how do you do this? My initial guess would be that they take the conference champs, highest ranking nonP5 team (if ranked above a conference champ) and two/three at-large teams.

The biggest complaint I have is expanding things really starts to open the door for questions about teams that possibly shouldn't have playoff complaints. Right now people talk about MSU, Baylor, TCU, and Ohio State on the bubble. In that scenario, you're talking more about Ole Miss, Georgia, and UCLA. I, personally, prefer the former. If you lose at all, you run the risk of not getting in.

I'd be curious to others' thoughts on a six team playoff? Imagine P5 conference champs and one at-large. Give the top two seeds a bye during the conference title weekend. Play 3-6, 4-5 at the higher ranked site that weekend and have the final four play as they do with the current playoff configuration.

This might actually work as well as an 8 teamer. Instead of just trying to "get in" there would be extra incentive to get one of the top 2 spots ,like the NFL does with playoff byes.

I like it because it still preserves the regular season but keeps the conferences happy. If it expands to 8 teams as-is, the 8-9 debate most years would be between two and three loss teams. I just find it hard to justify their inclusion for the playoff.

Running with my scenario and current standings, you'd have:

1. Alabama - Bye

2. Oregon - Bye

3. Florida State - vs. 6. Mississippi State

4. Ohio State - vs. 5 Baylor

I presumed Baylor over TCU currently assuming both win out and Baylor wins the conference due to the head to head matchup.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Keep your foot on the gas Sparty

 

[BigJohn]

If OSU plays Wisconsin in the B1G championship, Gordon is absolutely going to destroy this defense.

 

[wadegarrett]

If OSU plays Wisconsin in the B1G championship, Gordon is absolutely going to destroy this defense.

Might break his own record.

 

[Christo]

Perine!

BOOMER!​

 

[Premier]

Ohio State displaying a stunning lack of game control here. #beatoffgesture

 

[fantasycurse42]

Sparty with the fake FG up 35-0... Love it

 

[fantasycurse42]

Mother####er! Turnover on the next play!

 

[MAC_32]

I figured there would be a surprise game or two on this otherwise lame day, but Ohio? Nope. Didn't see that coming. Go Hoosiers!

 

[BigJohn]

If OSU plays Wisconsin in the B1G championship, Gordon is absolutely going to destroy this defense.

 

[yellowdog]

Can we please stop the silly OSU playoff talk?

 

[Dondante]

Can we please stop the silly OSU playoff talk?

Well that's not likely to happen. This game reminded me an awful lot of the Kansas/TCU game. Or even the OAK/KC game in the nfl.

It's really the "JT Barrett is special" talk that needs to settle down. He must watch a lot of Giants games.

 

[Dondante]

Ball game, folks. OSU by 10+

 

[timschochet]

I'm taking my 12 year old daughter to her first UCLA-USC game. She's not a football fan at all, but I want her to experience the pageantry.

Sunny day in Pasadena; we"ll get there around 2, going to a Bruin picnic with some friends.

 

[Joe T]

Can we please stop the silly OSU playoff talk?

Exactly

 

[BigJohn]

When they play like they are capable of, OSU deserves to be in the discussion. The crap in between makes me pull my hair out.

 

[BigJohn]

Can we please stop the silly OSU playoff talk?

On the networks? Sure. Not one OSU fan here has made a single argument that they belong in the top 4. Really, quite the opposite.

 

[Christo]

Perine!

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

I'm taking my 12 year old daughter to her first UCLA-USC game. She's not a football fan at all, but I want her to experience the pageantry.

Sunny day in Pasadena; we"ll get there around 2, going to a Bruin picnic with some friends.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Indiana's defense looks legit

 

[Joe T]

Indiana's defense looks legit

You can't just waltz into Indiana stadium and expect to come out with a win. That place is a hornet's nest.

 

[Christo]

Indiana's defense looks legit

You can't just waltz into Indiana stadium and expect to come out with a win. That place is a hornet's nest.

B1G Football!

 

[BigJohn]

Game's in Columbus.

I really think people, including the Buckeyes have been selling the Hoosiers short. They did beat a decent Mizzou team and Coleman is maybe the most underrated back in the country.

The 34 point spread threw people off, IMO.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Indiana's defense looks legit

You can't just waltz into Indiana stadium and expect to come out with a win. That place is a hornet's nest.

We play football a little differently up here, Joe.

 

[MAC_32]

Game's in Columbus.

I really think people, including the Buckeyes have been selling the Hoosiers short. They did beat a decent Mizzou team and Coleman is maybe the most underrated back in the country.

The 34 point spread threw people off, IMO.

the team with Sudfeld beat Missouri, the team with this guy hasn't beaten anybody. Don't spin this, this is just bad.

 

[whoknew]

Game's in Columbus.

I really think people, including the Buckeyes have been selling the Hoosiers short. They did beat a decent Mizzou team and Coleman is maybe the most underrated back in the country.

The 34 point spread threw people off, IMO.

the team with Sudfeld beat Missouri, the team with this guy hasn't beaten anybody.Don't spin this, this is just bad.

Right. They are on like the 8th string QB in Diamont.