* * * Official 2015 NFL Draft * * * (1 Viewer)

[SIDA!]

Haven't been following the Collins situation at all..but if he is really not involved or guilty of anything, and he continues to fall out of the second round.

I think I would just sit out the year and go back in next year's draft instead of signing a deal this year for significantly less money.

 

[pizzatyme]

Colts with the worst pick of the 1st round IMO. As a Colts fan, I'm disgusted. Malcolm Brown just sitting there. SMGDH

 

[FreeBaGeL]

So when they said "first half of the draft brought to you commercial free by Bose" what they really meant was "first half of the draft brought to you commercial free by the second half of the draft", right?

Because all they did was stuff all the commercials in at the end instead of distributing them throughout.

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

Colts with the worst pick of the 1st round IMO. As a Colts fan, I'm disgusted. Malcolm Brown just sitting there. SMGDH

Did you not hear? He's from Jamaica mon!

 

[Faust]

2015 NFL Draft Round 1 Winners, Losers: Bradford wins as Kelly loses

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25169684/nfl-draft-round-1-winners-losers-bradford-wins-as-kelly-loses

 

[Faust]

Are RBs back? Ten takeaways from draft's first round

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489514/article/are-rbs-back-ten-takeaways-from-drafts-first-round

 

[Faust]

Head-scratching picks from the 2015 NFL Draft:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489517/article/headscratching-picks-from-the-2015-nfl-draft

 

[Faust]

2015 NFL Draft: 10 observations from the first round

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25169735/nfl-draft-10-observations-from-the-first-round

 

[Faust]

2015 NFL Draft: Jaelen Strong leads gems left after Day 1

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489576/article/2015-nfl-draft-jaelen-strong-leads-gems-left-after-day-1

 

[Faust]

2015 NFL Draft: Titans land DGB in complete second-round mock draft

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25169755/nfl-draft-titans-address-wr-in-second-round-mock-draft

 

[Faust]

2015 NFL Draft: Day 2 Bold Predictions includes Titans at No. 33

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25169758/nfl-draft-day-two-bold-predictions-includes-titans-pick-at-no-33

 

[Shutout]

Colts with the worst pick of the 1st round IMO. As a Colts fan, I'm disgusted. Malcolm Brown just sitting there. SMGDH

Agree. Gave me a "niners" feel from a few years ago when they thought they could make luxury picks. Bad pick in my opinion.

 

[deancheated]

What time does the draft start today?

 

[Khy]

What time does the draft start today?

7:00pm EST

 

[massraider]

Colts with the worst pick of the 1st round IMO. As a Colts fan, I'm disgusted. Malcolm Brown just sitting there. SMGDH

None of those defensive players were bulletproof. Teams avoiding need at the end of the first is usually a good idea. Dorsett in the slot is a really scary thing. Brown may wind up being a stud, but I like Dorsett.

I wasn't a fan of the Bears pick. No problem with Kevin White. At all. He looks like he might just overpower CBs, they way Terrell Owens used to. Fine player.

But that defense was a shambles. They running a 3-4, and Beasley and Shelton were sitting there. Leonard Williams slid to 6, a trade with Washington (who supposedly were in business to trade down) would have netted them a cornerstone for the defense. Was White BPA? Perhaps. I have to believe WAS knew they could get Scherff two picks later, trading a medium pick to ensure you get Williams seems like a smart move.

Love the Gurley pick. Tre Mason is not the reason you pass on the best RB in years (that's what they said about TRich, blah blah blah, get some new material). Win with Nick Foles? Defense and running game. Don't turn it over, Nick, you'll be fine.

Giants made a huge mistake taking Flowers over Gurley, IMO. And I am not one to question the Giants. Top organization.

I wonder about CLE. Not because of the Shelton pick, but what's the problem with Phil Taylor?

If I was San Fran, I woulda taken Marcus Peters, and gotten a better player than Armstead in the 2nd round (Henry Anderson).

Chip Kelly lets DeSean and Maclin walk, because he doesn't need WRs in his system, then drafts Agholor in the `1st. I know we are not allowed to question Chip Kelly, but if we were, I would wonder if that isn't the definition of treading water.

Dupree to PIT is, along with Leo to NYJ, is the steal of the draft.

Tough to question the Ravens draft, but Dorsett is a much better WR than Perriman, right now.

Lions had a boring pick, that will be there for 10 years. Solid.

 

[Donnybrook]

Giants made a huge mistake taking Flowers over Gurley, IMO. And I am not one to question the Giants. Top organization.

Disagree. You can find running backs late.

 

[massraider]

Giants made a huge mistake taking Flowers over Gurley, IMO. And I am not one to question the Giants. Top organization.

Disagree. You can find running backs late.

You can find bad OTs there too.

 

[Donnybrook]

Giants made a huge mistake taking Flowers over Gurley, IMO. And I am not one to question the Giants. Top organization.

Disagree. You can find running backs late.

You can find bad OTs there too.

I don't think Flowers is bad. People are making too much out of that one Gregory pass rush attempt.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Giants made a huge mistake taking Flowers over Gurley, IMO. And I am not one to question the Giants. Top organization.

Disagree. You can find running backs late.

You can find bad OTs there too.

I don't think Flowers is bad. People are making too much out of that one Gregory pass rush attempt.

I expect as few as the three OLs chosen after him and another 4 today to all be better long term players than Flowers. They drafted my OL9 in the top ten. Bloom had him as a 3rd rounder.

 

[Shutout]

I don't think Flowers was the ideal pick. Seems to be not ready yet.

Funny when Massraider mentioned Gurley to the Giants. Had they taken him, despite the recent RB picks fairly early and the guys on the roster, there would likely have been fewer eyebrows raised than the Rams taking him. I think that tells us there are false dynamics driving things.

Gurley to Rams was a great pick. I'm actually surprised that we (the collective fans of football) didn't think of this. Its going to be an ideal situation if Gurley is what people say he is. People will finally get to see what it would have been like being a Rams fan with SJAX in his prime had they had competent coaching.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Giants made a huge mistake taking Flowers over Gurley, IMO. And I am not one to question the Giants. Top organization.

Disagree. You can find running backs late.

You can find bad OTs there too.

I don't think Flowers is bad. People are making too much out of that one Gregory pass rush attempt.

I expect as few as the three OLs chosen after him and another 4 today to all be better long term players than Flowers. They drafted my OL9 in the top ten. Bloom had him as a 3rd rounder.

Where ya got Ogbuehi, Chaos?

-QG

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Chip Kelly lets DeSean and Maclin walk, because he doesn't need WRs in his system, then drafts Agholor in the 1st. I know we are not allowed to question Chip Kelly, but if we were, I would wonder if that isn't the definition of treading water.

Maclin for Agholor may be treading water. Maclin for Agholor plus $9.5M per year for the next 4 years is not.

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone at this point that Chip the coach is a plug-and-play guy when it comes to the WR position. If Chip the GM feels he can plug in a roughly equal talent at the same position at one-sixth of the cost, why wouldn't he?

 

[The Man With No Name]

What time does the draft start today?

7:00pm EST

7:00pm EDT

 

[The Man With No Name]

Colts with the worst pick of the 1st round IMO. As a Colts fan, I'm disgusted. Malcolm Brown just sitting there. SMGDH

I wonder about CLE. Not because of the Shelton pick, but what's the problem with Phil Taylor?

Last year of Taylor's contract, which is not guaranteed, knee injury issue that apparently is not getting better. He could be cut if his knee doesn't improve enough

 

[Faust]

Silva's Day-Two Mock Draft:

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/53872/60/silvas-day-two-mock-draft

 

[Faust]

Round 2 NFL mock draft: Vikings get Dorial Green-Beckham

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000489650/article/round-2-nfl-mock-draft-vikings-get-dorial-greenbeckham

 

[Freelove]

Chip Kelly lets DeSean and Maclin walk, because he doesn't need WRs in his system, then drafts Agholor in the 1st. I know we are not allowed to question Chip Kelly, but if we were, I would wonder if that isn't the definition of treading water.

Maclin for Agholor may be treading water. Maclin for Agholor plus $9.5M per year for the next 4 years is not.

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone at this point that Chip the coach is a plug-and-play guy when it comes to the WR position. If Chip the GM feels he can plug in a roughly equal talent at the same position at one-sixth of the cost, why wouldn't he?

The cost of a first round pick exists in more than just cap dollars.

 

[Chaos Commish]

2nd round mock because

1 (33). Tennessee Titans Odighizuwa, Owamagbe, DE, UCLA

2 (34). Tampa Bay Buccaneers Clemmings, TJ, OT, Pittsburgh

3 (35). Oakland Raiders Gregory, Randy, Edge, Nebraska

4 (36). Jacksonville Jaguars Fisher, Jake, OT, Oregon

5 (37). New York Jets Collins, Jalen, CB, LSU

6 (38). Washington Redskins Goldman, Eddie, DT, Florida State

7 (39). Chicago Bears Collins, Landon, SS, Alabama

8 (40). New York Giants Dawson, Paul, ILB, TCU

9 (41). St. Louis Rams Green-Beckham, Dorial, WR, Missouri

10 (42). Atlanta Falcons Coleman, Tevin, RB, Indiana

11 (43). Cleveland Browns Harold, Eli, OLB, Virginia

12 (44). New Orleans Saints Rollins, Quinten, DB, Miami Oh

13 (45). Minnesota Vikings Kendricks, Erik, LB, UCLA

14 (46). San Francisco 49ers McKinney, Bernardrick, ILB, Miss State

15 (47). Miami Dolphins Williams, PJ, CB, Florida State

16 (48). San Diego Chargers Strong, Jaelen, WR, Arizona St

17 (49). Kansas City Chiefs Smith, Devin, WR, Ohio State

18 (50). Buffalo Bills Hunter, Danielle, Edge, LSU

19 (51). Houston Texans Rowe, Eric, CB, Utah

20 (52). Philadelphia Eagles Smith, Derron, S, Fresno St

21 (53). Cincinnati Bengals Tartt, Jaquiski, S, Samford

22 (54). Detroit Lions Bennett, Michael, DT, Ohio State

23 (55). Arizona Cardinals Philips, Jordan, DT, Oklahoma

24 (56). Pittsburgh Steelers Cann, AJ, OG, South Carolina

25 (57). Carolina Panthers Marpet, Ali, OG, Hobart and William Smith

26 (58). Baltimore Ravens Abdullah, Ameer, RB, Nebraska

27 (59). Denver Broncos Cooper, Xavier, DT, Washington St

28 (60). Dallas Cowboys Yeldon, TJ, RB, Alabama

29 (61). Indianapolis Colts Darby, Ronald, CB, Florida State

30 (62). Green Bay Packers Perryman, Denzel, ILB, Miami

31 (63). Seattle Seahawks Jarrett, Grady, DT, Clemson

32 (64). New England Patriots Williams, Max, TE, Minnesota

 

[massraider]

Chip Kelly lets DeSean and Maclin walk, because he doesn't need WRs in his system, then drafts Agholor in the 1st. I know we are not allowed to question Chip Kelly, but if we were, I would wonder if that isn't the definition of treading water.

Maclin for Agholor may be treading water. Maclin for Agholor plus $9.5M per year for the next 4 years is not.

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone at this point that Chip the coach is a plug-and-play guy when it comes to the WR position. If Chip the GM feels he can plug in a roughly equal talent at the same position at one-sixth of the cost, why wouldn't he?

because it costs a 1st round pick every 4 years, apparently?

 

[thatguy]

2nd round mock because

1 (33). Tennessee Titans Odighizuwa, Owamagbe, DE, UCLA

2 (34). Tampa Bay Buccaneers Clemmings, TJ, OT, Pittsburgh

3 (35). Oakland Raiders Gregory, Randy, Edge, Nebraska

4 (36). Jacksonville Jaguars Fisher, Jake, OT, Oregon

5 (37). New York Jets Collins, Jalen, CB, LSU

6 (38). Washington Redskins Goldman, Eddie, DT, Florida State

7 (39). Chicago Bears Collins, Landon, SS, Alabama

8 (40). New York Giants Dawson, Paul, ILB, TCU

9 (41). St. Louis Rams Green-Beckham, Dorial, WR, Missouri

10 (42). Atlanta Falcons Coleman, Tevin, RB, Indiana

11 (43). Cleveland Browns Harold, Eli, OLB, Virginia

12 (44). New Orleans Saints Rollins, Quinten, DB, Miami Oh

13 (45). Minnesota Vikings Kendricks, Erik, LB, UCLA

14 (46). San Francisco 49ers McKinney, Bernardrick, ILB, Miss State

15 (47). Miami Dolphins Williams, PJ, CB, Florida State

16 (48). San Diego Chargers Strong, Jaelen, WR, Arizona St

17 (49). Kansas City Chiefs Smith, Devin, WR, Ohio State

18 (50). Buffalo Bills Hunter, Danielle, Edge, LSU

19 (51). Houston Texans Rowe, Eric, CB, Utah

20 (52). Philadelphia Eagles Smith, Derron, S, Fresno St

21 (53). Cincinnati Bengals Tartt, Jaquiski, S, Samford

22 (54). Detroit Lions Bennett, Michael, DT, Ohio State

23 (55). Arizona Cardinals Philips, Jordan, DT, Oklahoma

24 (56). Pittsburgh Steelers Cann, AJ, OG, South Carolina

25 (57). Carolina Panthers Fisher, Jake, OT, Oregon

26 (58). Baltimore Ravens Abdullah, Ameer, RB, Nebraska

27 (59). Denver Broncos Cooper, Xavier, DT, Washington St

28 (60). Dallas Cowboys Yeldon, TJ, RB, Alabama

29 (61). Indianapolis Colts Darby, Ronald, CB, Florida State

30 (62). Green Bay Packers Perryman, Denzel, ILB, Miami

31 (63). Seattle Seahawks Jarrett, Grady, DT, Clemson

32 (64). New England Patriots Williams, Max, TE, Minnesota

Nice. But FYI you have Jake Fisher going twice.

 

[Chaos Commish]

2nd round mock because

4 (36). Jacksonville Jaguars Fisher, Jake, OT, Oregon

25 (57). Carolina Panthers Fisher, Jake, OT, Oregon

Nice. But FYI you have Jake Fisher going twice.

Thanks man, I'm not fixing it.

eta: I lied. I gave the Panthers Marpet.

 

[Chaos Commish]

La'el Collins with an ultimatum: Draft me tonight or I won't sign a contract and enter next year's draft. Is he getting good advice? I don't think so.

 

[Doug B]

J LaCanfora on Rome today saying La'el Collins will fall to the 7th. We'll see.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Chip Kelly lets DeSean and Maclin walk, because he doesn't need WRs in his system, then drafts Agholor in the 1st. I know we are not allowed to question Chip Kelly, but if we were, I would wonder if that isn't the definition of treading water.

Maclin for Agholor may be treading water. Maclin for Agholor plus $9.5M per year for the next 4 years is not.

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone at this point that Chip the coach is a plug-and-play guy when it comes to the WR position. If Chip the GM feels he can plug in a roughly equal talent at the same position at one-sixth of the cost, why wouldn't he?

because it costs a 1st round pick every 4 years, apparently?

First of all, it won't always be a first-rounder - sometimes the guy you need to replace the one who walked can be found in the 2nd or 3rd rounds, or via trade, or via FA, or some combination thereof.

Second (other than at QB, where continuity is essential), what's wrong with a general strategy of letting high-priced talent walk and replacing it (via the draft, or whatever other means) with near-equivalent lower-priced talent? To me, this sounds effectively like a one-sentence mission statement for Bill Belichick ... and that seems to have worked out all right.

 

[Freelove]

Day two 'bout to kick off.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Hearing the boos for Goodell is never going to get old.

 

[Jeremy]

Tonight we find out which current RBs lose most of their fantasy value. Already lost Mason and Oliver, so I'm assuming Denver, Miami and Cleveland will go RB tonight. :(

 

[Freelove]

Already more action that round one.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Giants trade up. Landon Collins?

 

[GoBirds]

NYG grabbing Collins you think?

 

[Sarlakticacid]

no FBG hangout today?

 

[FUBAR]

NYG grabbing Collins you think?

Good call

what did the Titans get?

 

[Freelove]

Giants trade up. Landon Collins?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Giants trade up. Landon Collins?

Yep.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

NYG grabbing Collins you think?

Good callwhat did the Titans get?

Giants 4th and 7th

 

[HellToupee]

NYG grabbing Collins you think?

Good call

what did the Titans get?

40 + 4 and 7

 

[FUBAR]

NYG grabbing Collins you think?

Good callwhat did the Titans get?

40 + 4 and 7

That works.

Good for both

 

[twistd]

How did Tampa have the first pick in round one, but the second pick in round two?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

How did Tampa have the first pick in round one, but the second pick in round two?

If teams have the same record they rotate who picks first in rounds

 

[Mister CIA]

Hey it's Mike Allstat.