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B-Deep said:
The Commish said:
Everything I've read seems to be they are all in trying to get Harbaugh and don't really have a plan B. However, people are confident Les Miles would take the job if offered, but age is a significant concern.
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which harbaugh?
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Jim....John has gone on record saying he shouldn't be considered.

 
The Commish said:
B-Deep said:
The Commish said:
Everything I've read seems to be they are all in trying to get Harbaugh and don't really have a plan B. However, people are confident Les Miles would take the job if offered, but age is a significant concern.
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which harbaugh?
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Jim....John has gone on record saying he shouldn't be considered.
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had not heard that, though i thought jim made more sense anyway

 
Hoke fired the same day RichRod named Pac12 Coach of the Year.. :lmao:

Coach of the Year - Rich Rodriguez, Arizona: In just his third year at the helm of Arizona football, Rodriguez earns Pac-12 Coach of the Year honors after leading the Wildcats to a 10-2 record overall and a 7-2 mark in Conference play, claiming the South Division title and the program’s first-ever berth in the Pac-12 Championship after finishing with the best record in league play. It was the Wildcats third 10-plus-win season in school history and its first 10-win regular season since 1998. The Wildcats closed the regular season out with back-to-back wins over AP ranked opponents, defeating No. 20 Utah, 42-10 and No. 13 Arizona State, 42-35. On the year the Wildcats had wins over three ranked opponents, also knocking off No. 2 Oregon on the road, 31-24. Arizona ranked in fourth in the Conference in scoring (36.7 ppg), rushing (189.8 ypg) and total offense (481.2). .

http://pac-12.com/article/2014/12/02/pac-12-football-player-and-coach-year-awards

Place your bets now on where Hoke goes to become coach of the year next season.

 
Go after Harbaugh.

After that make a list of the five best youngish coordinators in college football, and interview that kind of guy. No more BS, do it right this time.

 
Dan Lambskin said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Go after Harbaugh.

After that make a list of the five best youngish coordinators in college football, and interview that kind of guy. No more BS, do it right this time.
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Narduzzi :ninja:
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Or Tom Herman, just get the best guy and not some "Michigan man" like last time. Looking back Richrod was the right idea, just not the right guy at the time. But going from one big name to the next is just dumb, get a hungry guy who has never had his own program.

 
CFB coaches who never had their own program before getting a major head coach job

Bob Stoops

Chip Kelly

Pete Carroll

Tom Osbourne

Dennis Green

John Robinson

Gary Patterson

Mike Helfrich

Bill Snyder

Names off the top of my head. Great coordinators can sometimes make great coaches, and the program needs both fresh eyes and different approach to leading the school forward. If they can get a name like Harbaugh or Patterson then great, but they need to think outside the box IMO.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Dan Lambskin said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Go after Harbaugh.

After that make a list of the five best youngish coordinators in college football, and interview that kind of guy. No more BS, do it right this time.
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Narduzzi :ninja:
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Or Tom Herman, just get the best guy and not some "Michigan man" like last time. Looking back Richrod was the right idea, just not the right guy at the time. But going from one big name to the next is just dumb, get a hungry guy who has never had his own program.
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Hackett said today to get rid of the "Michigan Man" saying for good. Actually like Hackett. Then again Hoke had a good first presser.

 
Good job avoiding the question btw. Can't ever be wrong if you don't answer in the first place. Hind sight is always right.

 
MAC_32 said:
Good job avoiding the question btw. Can't ever be wrong if you don't answer in the first place. Hind sight is always right.
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Already listed a few, here are some more:

Frost

Smart

Montgomery

Aranda

Norvell

Plenty of fine names out there to choose from. Should I list their school affiliations since you probably don't know them?

 
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MAC_32 said:
So all five of those coordinators will be great coaches at a top level d1 school. Why?
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No, they'll be about as good as your Clausen. Or maybe they won't, we simply have no idea. That's why your initial statement is patently flawed.

Even though you are never right, for some reason you always think you know it all.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
MAC_32 said:
So all five of those coordinators will be great coaches at a top level d1 school. Why?
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No, they'll be about as good as your Clausen. Or maybe they won't, we simply have no idea. That's why your initial statement is patently flawed. Even though you are never right, for some reason you always think you know it all.
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right, we always figure it out after the fact when it's easy and safe to make guesses. You don't like to because you're afraid to be wrong. I do because I am not afraid to be wrong. Running a program is completely different than running a component of it. Can you run a program if you can run one department? Sure. Go prove it at a smaller company and then we'll consider it at a larger one.

Betting on someone who has successfully administered a program before is a better bet than someone who hasn't.

 
MAC_32 said:
Doctor Detroit said:
MAC_32 said:
So all five of those coordinators will be great coaches at a top level d1 school. Why?
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No, they'll be about as good as your Clausen. Or maybe they won't, we simply have no idea. That's why your initial statement is patently flawed. Even though you are never right, for some reason you always think you know it all.
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right, we always figure it out after the fact when it's easy and safe to make guesses. You don't like to because you're afraid to be wrong. I do because I am not afraid to be wrong.Running a program is completely different than running a component of it. Can you run a program if you can run one department? Sure. Go prove it at a smaller company and then we'll consider it at a larger one.

Betting on someone who has successfully administered a program before is a better bet than someone who hasn't.
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You are never right, so not being afraid to be wrong must be pretty easy for you.

 
I could start bumping all of my good calls and other peoples bad calls but being petty and insecure goes against what I believe in.

 
Can't and won't aren't the same thing. If you would like to learn the difference there are some remedial classes at school you may qualify for.

 
It's probably best you don't know what most people have to say about Internet trolls. I'm afraid of what an angry hate filled jerk like you would do.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Dan Lambskin said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Go after Harbaugh.

After that make a list of the five best youngish coordinators in college football, and interview that kind of guy. No more BS, do it right this time.
Click to expand...
Narduzzi :ninja:
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Or Tom Herman, just get the best guy and not some "Michigan man" like last time. Looking back Richrod was the right idea, just not the right guy at the time. But going from one big name to the next is just dumb, get a hungry guy who has never had his own program.
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They tried that with Hoke :porked:

 
Doctor Detroit said:
Dan Lambskin said:
Doctor Detroit said:
Go after Harbaugh.

After that make a list of the five best youngish coordinators in college football, and interview that kind of guy. No more BS, do it right this time.
Click to expand...
Narduzzi :ninja:
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Or Tom Herman, just get the best guy and not some "Michigan man" like last time. Looking back Richrod was the right idea, just not the right guy at the time. But going from one big name to the next is just dumb, get a hungry guy who has never had his own program.
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RR wasn't around long enough to see if he had the right idea or not. What was clear was his ideas on defense were NOT correct and weren't going to work. If we are to believe Hackett, he's on the right track. Actions will speak louder than words though. I hope he really follows through on what he said.

 
http://gregghenson.com/michigan-isnt-struggling-to-find-a-coach/

The Internet article this morning claiming that Michigan is struggling to find a Head Coach is false. It has no validity whatsoever, Michigan has only considered two people so far and both are still in the mix, Jim Harbaugh and Les Miles.

The article also claims Jim Harbaugh has also told Michigan he isnt a candidate and that simply isnt true. Harbaugh is in the mix only he knows if he is taking the job.

I can tell you for fact that Jim is still considering Michigan, he talked to ex-players, including Anthony Carter and informed them that he would consider the job.

Also, Les Miles would take the job if offered! He is on record as saying that many times!



I believe this guy! He seems to know what he is talking about...or telling me what I want to hear :)
 
I haven't heard these "reports" about "struggling". It's day one of the search and I'm absolutely confident the ball was set in motion well before yesterday's announcement. With that said, one of the "big three" recruits decommitted when the announcement came out yesterday. TE Clark is no longer in the mix. They need to resolve this quickly...down to 6 recruits for this class....one a legacy, another a kicker.

 
The Commish said:
I haven't heard these "reports" about "struggling". It's day one of the search and I'm absolutely confident the ball was set in motion well before yesterday's announcement. With that said, one of the "big three" recruits decommitted when the announcement came out yesterday. TE Clark is no longer in the mix. They need to resolve this quickly...down to 6 recruits for this class....one a legacy, another a kicker.
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They have to do it correctly

if they go quick and get the wrong guy it hurts not only this class but future ones as well

 
B-Deep said:
The Commish said:
I haven't heard these "reports" about "struggling". It's day one of the search and I'm absolutely confident the ball was set in motion well before yesterday's announcement. With that said, one of the "big three" recruits decommitted when the announcement came out yesterday. TE Clark is no longer in the mix. They need to resolve this quickly...down to 6 recruits for this class....one a legacy, another a kicker.
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They have to do it correctly

if they go quick and get the wrong guy it hurts not only this class but future ones as well
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I get that...correctly and quickly aren't mutually exclusive though. Part of me believes the wheels were set in motion some weeks ago and they are well down the path. It'd be interesting to see how a Harbaugh kind of personality would treat those players who bailed. Would he try to pick up their recruiting again?

 
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