playin4beer
Footballguy
I can understand that.. and if I were a Michigan fan, I'd probably feel the same way..
But where do they go from here if Harbaugh goes to Oakland?
I'm honestly not trolling or fishing... What's the back up plan?
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But where do they go from here if Harbaugh goes to Oakland?
I'm honestly not trolling or fishing... What's the back up plan?
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
They just let the college football world know they're willing to pay a coach more than any other. I'd guess that may turn a few heads.
The Commish
Footballguy
Depends on who you talk to I suppose. It's not clear. All we know are the independent events that happened and that were exposed to us. I don't think it was a coincidence that Miles said "off the record" that he was taking his name out of the running the day after SF was eliminated from playoff contention. If Harbaugh falls through, something tells me he's still in play (though not my preference). Other coaches have been rumored including Mullen and Mora Jr. Again, two guys I'm not overly joyed with. Mullen for his shady recruiting report this year and Mora, I just don't see it working with him at Michigan. Stoops has also been mentioned as a target along with several mid level coordinators etc.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I'd be intersted in why Harbaugh is not your preference? Who do you like better and why?
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The Commish
Footballguy
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
There's Jimmy.
Then everyone else.
Then everyone else.
The Commish
Footballguy
He has a buyout in his contract. The amount isn't verified. If he wants to leave, he has an out. I wouldn't want a coach that didn't want to be there. Not sure there's more to it than that, but I haven't heard anything significant from the 49er POV.
gump
Footballguy
So is the buyout paid if he goes to college or the NFL? Do the Niners get something in addition to the buyout if he goes to an NFL team?
LAUNCH
Footballguy
Baalke wants him gone. They don't want to pay him next year and probably don't want to have him coach against them. If the GM had any intention of keeping him maybe they would have tried to get speed on the team. Coaches contracts seem to be written in invisible ink and never challenged anyway. Saban leaves Dolphins for Alabama. Gary Anderson leaves Wisconsin for Oregon State.
gump
Footballguy
What I'm confused about is whether SF gets significantly more back letting him go to another NFL team. Good point about not wanting to coach against him, but how often would that happen in Oak or Chi?
The Dolphins didn't have an option of trading Saban to another team.
LAUNCH
Footballguy
If you are Harbaugh why would you want to go to a team that gave up a lot to get him? If it were me, I would tell any interested teams that I won't sign any extension if you give up anything more than a 7th. Giving up a bunch of draft picks for a guy that is gone anyway is dumb. The 49ers just don't hold a lot of leverage because they don't want him back and don't want to fire him and have to pay him.
Foosball God
Foos
The thing they would get back from an NFL team is draft pick compensation and his salary off the books. They won't "let" him go to Michigan. If he wants to go he'll have to break his contract and then the 49ers will get the buyout money and not have to pay his contract. If they just fire him then he'll get paid his contract amount.
gump
Footballguy
B-Deep
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
Don't know the answers to any of that. I was assuming it had to be paid regardless of where he went though.
The Commish
Footballguy
Oh, and I'm sorta surprised the "I can't believe Michigan would have to resort to throwing money at a Michigan Man to come home" shtick hasn't broken out. Followed closely by "see, look at what a dumpster fire Michigan is that they have th pay that kind of money to go there" shtick. People are slippin'
B-Deep
Footballguy
It’s no secret that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross, a Michigan alum, loves Harbaugh. He tried to hire him four years ago. Ross is worth billions. He has donated $310 million to the university.
If Ross fires Joe Philbin, I’m quite sure he can outbid Michigan for Harbaugh.
Remember: Michigan asks Ross for money, not the other way around.
If Ross fires Joe Philbin, I’m quite sure he can outbid Michigan for Harbaugh.
Remember: Michigan asks Ross for money, not the other way around.
The Commish
Footballguy
Actions certainly speak louder than words. He said he's rather Harbaugh "go home" than come to Miami which is exactly what'd I'd assume out of him given his lack of ability to own an NFL team. We'll see.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
I think Harbaugh goes to Chicago once Trestman is fired. Perfect fit.
Foosball God
Foos
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Cutler is building a sizeable portfolio of coaches he's gotten fired
Maybe Chicago should consider dumping Cutler, not Trestman.
Maybe Chicago should consider dumping Cutler, not Trestman.
The Commish
Footballguy
I can't imagine those two getting along at all (Cutler and Harbaugh) but who knows
The Commish
Footballguy
very true....things will unfold over the next 10-11 days.
The Commish
Footballguy
JUB is now confirming that the $48 million over 6 years is high. It's supposedly over 8 years with significant incentives for B1G championships and CFP appearances/championships. So, potential earnings could be north of $ 8million.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
There are very few, if any, successful coaches that aren't considered dbags by the competition's fans.Baloney Sandwich said:
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Is it credible? Who sent it? It confirms that the deal is far from a lock like some are claiming.
The Commish
Footballguy
It's been one of the "more credible" sources I have seen. I think anyone claiming one way or the other is simply stuck in their own echo chambers. Nothing's a lock either way at this point. Shocking to me that they don't believe NFL teams wouldn't pony up that kind of offer.
B-Deep
Footballguy
man this guy is a #### (if this is true)
but i'll put up with a good coach who is a ####
Jim Harbaugh knows the world is a hard, cruel place.
The weak perish, the strong survive, and all life forms bow before Darwin’s immitigable statutes as they squirm to stave off extinction.
Harbaugh understands this. It’s why he celebrated his wedding by hunting down a child in a smoke-filled labyrinth.
MLive.com’s Nick Baumgardner brings us the story of Harbaugh’s most dangerous game, which occurred during a bachelor party celebration.
Baumgardner reports that the San Francisco 49ers coach took his buddies to play laser tag to coronate his second wedding. In the murky abyss of the laser arena, Harbaugh did two extremely Harbaugh-ian things.
First, he chose the name “Captain Comeback” as his gamer handle, paying tribute to the nickname he earned during his playing days.
Second, he found the other team’s weakest link and exploited it relentlessly. In this case, that unfortunate link was a 10-year-old child.
Harbaugh’s team won (of course), but the coach’s youth-poaching strategy wasn’t apparent until his friends analyzed the scatter plot of his game-high kills. They quickly noticed a pattern in the data.
“All his shots came against this 10-year-old kid,” said Eric Bakhtiari, a former 49ers linebacker who had played under Harbaugh during his pro and college days. “He just sat there, hunting this 10-year-old kid so he could win.”
From Harbaugh’s perspective, the massacre is easy to justify. This child carries none of his genetic material. It cannot carry on his lineage. Rather, the child’s very existence threatens his tribe’s way of life and access to resources. Throw in the fact that this kid could one day grow up and challenge his reign as Laser Quest alpha male and it’s almost as if Harbaugh had no other choice.
Bakhtiari attributes his former coach’s strategy to mad genius.
“(He’s crazy), but in the best way possible,” Bakhtiari said. “I mean, hey, Steve Jobs was crazy, too.”
If only Jobs were still with us today. He and Harbaugh could settle this nonexistent alpha male feud with a laser-tag battle on General Zaroff’s island. Winner gets high score, loser gets fed to the hounds.
but i'll put up with a good coach who is a ####
Jim Harbaugh knows the world is a hard, cruel place.
The weak perish, the strong survive, and all life forms bow before Darwin’s immitigable statutes as they squirm to stave off extinction.
Harbaugh understands this. It’s why he celebrated his wedding by hunting down a child in a smoke-filled labyrinth.
MLive.com’s Nick Baumgardner brings us the story of Harbaugh’s most dangerous game, which occurred during a bachelor party celebration.
Baumgardner reports that the San Francisco 49ers coach took his buddies to play laser tag to coronate his second wedding. In the murky abyss of the laser arena, Harbaugh did two extremely Harbaugh-ian things.
First, he chose the name “Captain Comeback” as his gamer handle, paying tribute to the nickname he earned during his playing days.
Second, he found the other team’s weakest link and exploited it relentlessly. In this case, that unfortunate link was a 10-year-old child.
Harbaugh’s team won (of course), but the coach’s youth-poaching strategy wasn’t apparent until his friends analyzed the scatter plot of his game-high kills. They quickly noticed a pattern in the data.
“All his shots came against this 10-year-old kid,” said Eric Bakhtiari, a former 49ers linebacker who had played under Harbaugh during his pro and college days. “He just sat there, hunting this 10-year-old kid so he could win.”
From Harbaugh’s perspective, the massacre is easy to justify. This child carries none of his genetic material. It cannot carry on his lineage. Rather, the child’s very existence threatens his tribe’s way of life and access to resources. Throw in the fact that this kid could one day grow up and challenge his reign as Laser Quest alpha male and it’s almost as if Harbaugh had no other choice.
Bakhtiari attributes his former coach’s strategy to mad genius.
“(He’s crazy), but in the best way possible,” Bakhtiari said. “I mean, hey, Steve Jobs was crazy, too.”
If only Jobs were still with us today. He and Harbaugh could settle this nonexistent alpha male feud with a laser-tag battle on General Zaroff’s island. Winner gets high score, loser gets fed to the hounds.
SAGINAW COUNTY, MI (WNEM) -Jim Harbaugh may be getting ready to become Michigan's head football
coach.
Chatsports.com reports that two independent sources confirm he is set to announce he's taking the position Dec. 30. That is unless he backs out on the verbal agreement he reportedly has made with Michigan Athletic
Director Jim Hackett.
The sports site reports Harbaugh's agent has been in contact with U of M since early November, telling Michigan Jim wants to return the football powerhouse back to its winning ways. There are also reports that more than 50 former Harbaugh teammates from Michigan have asked him to take the position.
Harbaugh, who is currently the coach of the 49ers, reportedly wouldn't make a move until after the season was over.
Earlier this week word of a possible deal between U of M and Harbaugh was widely circulated. Including the possibility of him earning $10 million a year with bonuses and incentives.
U of M's former head coach Brady Hoke was fired from his position earlier this month after four seasons.
coach.Chatsports.com reports that two independent sources confirm he is set to announce he's taking the position Dec. 30. That is unless he backs out on the verbal agreement he reportedly has made with Michigan Athletic
Director Jim Hackett.The sports
site reports Harbaugh's agent has been in contact with U of M since early November, telling Michigan Jim wants to return the football powerhouse back to its winning ways. There are also reports that more than 50 former Harbaugh teammates from Michigan have asked him to take the position.Harbaugh, who is currently the coach of the 49ers, reportedly wouldn't make a move until after the season was over.
Earlier this week word of a possible deal
between U of M and Harbaugh was widely circulated. Including the possibility of him earning $10 million a year with bonuses and incentives.U of M's former head coach Brady Hoke was fired from his position earlier this month after four seasons.
LAUNCH
Footballguy
http://detroitsportsrag.net/not-the-most-optimistic-harbaugh-update/
Ok. Here is the latest I have been told by my source and it will have to be quick because I am at the animal hospital with my beagle for his chemotherapy treatment. (See, I am really not a monster!!!) Excuse any grammatical errors. I’m kind of rushing here.
Anyway, last night Jim Harbaugh called one of his former teammates. The conversation did not start well as my source states the San Fran head coach asked, “Would you hate me if I didn’t come?”
Umm, not good. So what are the latest complications in this ongoing saga? This is what I am being told:
1) Ted Spencer was U of M’s Athletic Admissions dude for many years. Spencer left this year and has not been replaced. Harbaugh wants to replace Spencer with someone philosophically in line with Ted.
Harbaugh has concerns that Michigan President Mark Schlissel wants U of M to become more like Brown University. Schlissel’s response is that’s how he wants to operate.
2) I can confirm that Harbaugh’s agent is the one who leaked the contract details to the national NFL media, which is weird since the U of M athletic department kind of leaked the same information two weeks ago. Very strange.
3) Further complicating matters are the Atlanta Falcons, who may be very interested in Jim’s services should they be ready to part ways with Mike Smith. And they have Home Depot money. It’s hard to battle Home Depot money.
4) The only piece of good news my source can provide is that Jack Harbaugh is still extremely desirous of his son’s return to his alma mater. As a matter of fact, if Jim does return you all should probably send a Christmas present to Jack.
That’s the latest on my end. I will await the pitchforks and torches. Please don’t kill the messenger.
Ok. Here is the latest I have been told by my source and it will have to be quick because I am at the animal hospital with my beagle for his chemotherapy treatment. (See, I am really not a monster!!!) Excuse any grammatical errors. I’m kind of rushing here.
Anyway, last night Jim Harbaugh called one of his former teammates. The conversation did not start well as my source states the San Fran head coach asked, “Would you hate me if I didn’t come?”
Umm, not good. So what are the latest complications in this ongoing saga? This is what I am being told:
1) Ted Spencer was U of M’s Athletic Admissions dude for many years. Spencer left this year and has not been replaced. Harbaugh wants to replace Spencer with someone philosophically in line with Ted.
Harbaugh has concerns that Michigan President Mark Schlissel wants U of M to become more like Brown University. Schlissel’s response is that’s how he wants to operate.
2) I can confirm that Harbaugh’s agent is the one who leaked the contract details to the national NFL media, which is weird since the U of M athletic department kind of leaked the same information two weeks ago. Very strange.
3) Further complicating matters are the Atlanta Falcons, who may be very interested in Jim’s services should they be ready to part ways with Mike Smith. And they have Home Depot money. It’s hard to battle Home Depot money.
4) The only piece of good news my source can provide is that Jack Harbaugh is still extremely desirous of his son’s return to his alma mater. As a matter of fact, if Jim does return you all should probably send a Christmas present to Jack.
That’s the latest on my end. I will await the pitchforks and torches. Please don’t kill the messenger.
The Commish
Footballguy
Not the term I'd use, but if this goes through it'll be an awesome turn of events and signal that Michigan is all in on the competitive football landscape which is nice.Exciting time to be a Michigan fan
The Commish
Footballguy
Oh....and I'd rank "chat sports" juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust below Jeff Moss on the credibility scale.
The Commish
Footballguy
And I don't know where Marcellus Wiley came from, but he's confident this is a done deal. Reality is, no one knows. I'll believe it all when I see it and if the buzz picks up significantly on the 23rd, I might let myself start believing it just a little bit. That's the next scheduled meeting with Hackett and the players.
I am a bit surprised. I figured everyone would be better off if they waited for SF to fire Harbaugh. I thought there would be some kind of post season cat and mouse game going on.
The Commish
Footballguy
Schefter has even toned down the tool factor and his "he'll never leave the NFL" shtick...latest interesting things from his comments are:
The Commish
Footballguy
Question is, is Schefter going the "his heart is in the NFL but everyone else wants him to go to college" route to cover how terribly wrong he would have been otherwise or is it really what Jim thinks. If it's what Jim really thinks, it's best that he just stay in the NFL IMO. With all that said, I don't really believe anything Schefter says one way or the other.
whoknew
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
If he comes to Michigan and doesn't address this, then we (the fans) will be on pins and needles every year as his name is brought up as a HC candidate for XXXX NFL team. We'll sit around wondering if he's going to bounce because the NFL is really where he wants to be. This "search" is bad enough. Not sure I have the stamina for this stuff yearly
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
So he's honestly contemplating it. What more can we ask?
I really hope the plan B is better than the shotgun approach employed last go round.
I really hope the plan B is better than the shotgun approach employed last go round.
