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***Official 2024 Pro Cycling Thread*** - The road ends in Spain. Guaranteed Crazy Ending. (2 Viewers)

Sand said:
Tadej out of the Olympics. No surprise. IMO, if he wants history he should do the Vuelta. They keep saying no he won't do that but I'm not believing it yet.

www.cyclingnews.com

Tadej Pogačar withdraws from Paris 2024 Olympics after winning Tour de France

Slovenian won't appear at road race on August 3 as national team say he is 'too tired', Domen Novak added as replacement
www.cyclingnews.com www.cyclingnews.com
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Too tired...Lol. He was posing for photos during the Stage 20 climb and spraying people with water.
 
BassNBrew said:
Sand said:
Tadej out of the Olympics. No surprise. IMO, if he wants history he should do the Vuelta. They keep saying no he won't do that but I'm not believing it yet.

www.cyclingnews.com

Tadej Pogačar withdraws from Paris 2024 Olympics after winning Tour de France

Slovenian won't appear at road race on August 3 as national team say he is 'too tired', Domen Novak added as replacement
www.cyclingnews.com www.cyclingnews.com
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Too tired...Lol. He was posing for photos during the Stage 20 climb and spraying people with water.
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In a move that seemed to be based more on politics than performance, the Slovenian Olympic team left his girlfriend off of the woman's squad. I suspect Tadej's tiredness is a form of silent protest 😉
 
Jaysus said:
BassNBrew said:
Sand said:
Tadej out of the Olympics. No surprise. IMO, if he wants history he should do the Vuelta. They keep saying no he won't do that but I'm not believing it yet.

www.cyclingnews.com

Tadej Pogačar withdraws from Paris 2024 Olympics after winning Tour de France

Slovenian won't appear at road race on August 3 as national team say he is 'too tired', Domen Novak added as replacement
www.cyclingnews.com www.cyclingnews.com
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Too tired...Lol. He was posing for photos during the Stage 20 climb and spraying people with water.
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In a move that seemed to be based more on politics than performance, the Slovenian Olympic team left his girlfriend off of the woman's squad. I suspect Tadej's tiredness is a form of silent protest 😉
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Confirmed: link
 
Jaysus said:
Jaysus said:
BassNBrew said:
Sand said:
Tadej out of the Olympics. No surprise. IMO, if he wants history he should do the Vuelta. They keep saying no he won't do that but I'm not believing it yet.

www.cyclingnews.com

Tadej Pogačar withdraws from Paris 2024 Olympics after winning Tour de France

Slovenian won't appear at road race on August 3 as national team say he is 'too tired', Domen Novak added as replacement
www.cyclingnews.com www.cyclingnews.com
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Too tired...Lol. He was posing for photos during the Stage 20 climb and spraying people with water.
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In a move that seemed to be based more on politics than performance, the Slovenian Olympic team left his girlfriend off of the woman's squad. I suspect Tadej's tiredness is a form of silent protest 😉
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Confirmed: link
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Doesn't really make sense.

The 35 y.o. woman they selected was the Slovenia ITT champion in '18, '19 and '21.

His girl is 8 years younger and has been ITT national champion 4 of the last 5 years: '20, '22, '23, and '24.
 
An interesting post about the 2019 class of pro riders from r/peloton:

The ridiculously dominant class of 2019 has won almost half of all Grand Tours, monuments, and World Championship road races since going pro​


Every year we learn about new riders that join the WorldTour or ProSeries for the first time in their careers. This year saw 112 riders go pro, some of them already showing great promise like Isaac Del Toro, Joseph Blackmore, Paul Magnier, Darren Rafferty, and António Morgado.

But 2019 saw an absolutely ridiculous crop of neo-pros. 132 riders went pro. Among them were 18-year-old Remco Evenepoel, 20-year-old Tadej Pogačar, 22-year-old Jonas Vingegaard, and 23-year-old Mathieu van der Poel.

Since the start of that season, the 2019 season, this quartet has absolutely dominated the biggest and most prestigious cycling races. They have won a ridiculous combined 23 of 50 Grand Tours, monuments, and World Championship road races since 2019.

While the Grand Tour numbers are impressive, with Pogačar, Vingegaard, and Evenepoel all winning at least one and combining for a total of seven wins out of 17 possible, giving them a 41 percent win rate, it is especially in the monuments that this ludicrous crop of riders has dominated.

YearGiroTourVuelta
2019Richard CarapazEgan BernalPrimož Roglič
2020Tao Geoghegan HartTadej PogačarPrimož Roglič
2021Egan BernalTadej PogačarPrimož Roglič
2022Jai HindleyJonas VingegaardRemco Evenepoel
2023Primož RogličJonas VingegaardSepp Kuss
2024Tadej PogačarTadej Pogačar

As such, half of all monuments raced since 2019 have been won by riders from the class of 2019. Mathieu van der Poel and Pogačar have snatched six each, with Evenepoel winning Liège-Bastogne-Liège two years in a row, combining for 14 wins in the last 28 monuments. Of course, none of us will be surprised if Pogačar take this tally to 15 in this year's Il Lombardia.

YearMilano-SanremoDe RondeParis-RoubaixLiège-Bastogne-LiègeIl Lombardia
2019Julian AlaphilippeAlberto BettiolPhilippe GilbertJakob FuglsangBauke Mollema
2020Wout Van AertMathieu van der PoelPrimož RogličJakob Fuglsang
2021Jasper StuyvenKasper AsgreenSonny ColbrelliTadej PogačarTadej Pogačar
2022Matej MohoričMathieu van der PoelDylan van BaarleRemco EvenepoelTadej Pogačar
2023Mathieu van der PoelTadej PogačarMathieu van der PoelRemco EvenepoelTadej Pogačar
2024Jasper PhilipsenMathieu van der PoelMathieu van der PoelTadej Pogačar

After some of the "older" riders won the World Championship in 2019, 2020, and 2021, the class of 2019 has also left it's mark on this race with the last two of course being won by Remco Evenepoel and Mathieu van der Poel, with Tadej Pogačar now among the favourites to take the rainbow jersey this year.

In the Olympics, the class of 2019 are also among the absolute favourites with Mathieu van der Poel and Remco Evenepoel both being among the frontrunners for the road race, while Evenepoel is of course also one of the big favourites for the time trial.

It will be interesting to see who, if anyone, can smash the domination of this class that has already won so much but just now seems to be entering their prime. In total, they have amassed a ridiculous 212 wins since going pro in 2019:

RiderWinsWorldTour WinsGC WinsITT Wins
Tadej Pogačar8464167
Remco Evenepoel56231215
Mathieu van der Poel372130
Jonas Vingegaard352182
Total2121293924

Interestingly, if we go back to the overall combined number between Grand Tours, monuments, and World Championship road races, the percentage will go just above 50 percent if we combine the 2018 and 2019 classes.

As such, the 2018 class was also very, very strong with riders like Jai Hindley (2022 Giro winner), Sepp Kuss (2023 Vuelta winner), Jasper Philipsen (2024 Milano-Sanremo winner), and Kasper Asgreen (2021 De Ronde winner). Adding these four wins will take the total combined wins in Grand Tours, monuments, and World Championship road races to 27 of 50, a stupendous 54 percent win rate for the 2018 and 2019 classes.

(All numbers are courtesy of ProCyclingStats)
 
BobbyLayne said:
What a recovery from Pidcock

The Yorkshireman recovered from a puncture and 38 second time loss to regain the lead and win Olympic gold in the men's cross country mountain biking
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Maybe it's because mountain biking is my thing, but I thought this was one of the most exciting Olympic events I watched.
 

MTB - Olympic Games XCO​

XCO, 2024 | MEN
POSRIDERTEAM
TIME​
01🇬🇧PIDCOCK Tom
01:26:22​
02 🇫🇷KORETZKY Victor
+ 09​
03🇿🇦HATHERLY Alan
+ 11​
04BRAIDOT Luca
+ 34​
05FLÜCKIGER Mathias
+ 01:20​
06GAZE Samuel
+ 01:41​
07AMOS Riley
+ 01:46​
08ALDRIDGE Charlie
+ 02:10​
09SCHURTER Nino
+ 02:22​
10VALERO David
+ 0​
 
XCO has been part of the Olympics for 28 years. The 7th place from Riley Amos was the highest finish ever by an American in the event.
 
Dickies said:
BobbyLayne said:
What a recovery from Pidcock

The Yorkshireman recovered from a puncture and 38 second time loss to regain the lead and win Olympic gold in the men's cross country mountain biking
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Maybe it's because mountain biking is my thing, but I thought this was one of the most exciting Olympic events I watched.
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It was great - Pidcock making that huge comeback after the tire swap (did he walk down that drop when he stopped at it just before the swap?), then the French rider retaking the lead, and that final pass with the bump on the last possible spot before the sprint was amazing.

When Pidcock started his charge after the wheel, it looked like Amos might try to stick with him.
 
The women's MTB race was also great. The winner was dominant, but Haley Batten making a similar charge to Pidcock after a wheel swap to win the silver was fun to watch. That poor French rider Loana Lecompte (spelling) face planting just as the pack caught her was pretty heartbreaking.

I had some loud stuff going on at home while I watched... did they say the winner had the only hardtail in the field?

I didn't realize that so many top riders ride multiple disciplines. Seeing Pidcock after he dropped out of the Tour with Covid was surprising - I assumed he had switched over to road racing, not that he bounced back and forth.
 
Tick said:
Dickies said:
BobbyLayne said:
What a recovery from Pidcock

The Yorkshireman recovered from a puncture and 38 second time loss to regain the lead and win Olympic gold in the men's cross country mountain biking
Click to expand...
Maybe it's because mountain biking is my thing, but I thought this was one of the most exciting Olympic events I watched.
Click to expand...
It was great - Pidcock making that huge comeback after the tire swap (did he walk down that drop when he stopped at it just before the swap?), then the French rider retaking the lead, and that final pass with the bump on the last possible spot before the sprint was amazing.

When Pidcock started his charge after the wheel, it looked like Amos might try to stick with him.
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He was so dominant he would have won by a minute if not for the mechanical. I had to laugh when the French crowd booed him loudly at the end. The French sure have the boorish thing down.
 
There is a rumor CycloCross will become part of the 2030 Olympics.

Thats the Winter Olympics in the French Alps.

Could end up being the perfect cap to the greatest rivalry in pro cycling. WvA v MvdP. Forever linked, they’ll both be 35, and they will have been racing against each other for 20+ years by then. Hopefully they are able to stick around.
 
Sand said:
Tick said:
Dickies said:
BobbyLayne said:
What a recovery from Pidcock

The Yorkshireman recovered from a puncture and 38 second time loss to regain the lead and win Olympic gold in the men's cross country mountain biking
Click to expand...
Maybe it's because mountain biking is my thing, but I thought this was one of the most exciting Olympic events I watched.
Click to expand...
It was great - Pidcock making that huge comeback after the tire swap (did he walk down that drop when he stopped at it just before the swap?), then the French rider retaking the lead, and that final pass with the bump on the last possible spot before the sprint was amazing.

When Pidcock started his charge after the wheel, it looked like Amos might try to stick with him.
Click to expand...
He was so dominant he would have won by a minute if not for the mechanical. I had to laugh when the French crowd booed him loudly at the end. The French sure have the boorish thing down.
Click to expand...

This move - when he realized the other guy took the wrong side, he explodes to get to the corner first.

That's what the French are mad about? That's a racing incident, nothing wrong there IMO.
 
BobbyLayne said:
Sand said:
Tick said:
Dickies said:
BobbyLayne said:
What a recovery from Pidcock

The Yorkshireman recovered from a puncture and 38 second time loss to regain the lead and win Olympic gold in the men's cross country mountain biking
Click to expand...
Maybe it's because mountain biking is my thing, but I thought this was one of the most exciting Olympic events I watched.
Click to expand...
It was great - Pidcock making that huge comeback after the tire swap (did he walk down that drop when he stopped at it just before the swap?), then the French rider retaking the lead, and that final pass with the bump on the last possible spot before the sprint was amazing.

When Pidcock started his charge after the wheel, it looked like Amos might try to stick with him.
Click to expand...
He was so dominant he would have won by a minute if not for the mechanical. I had to laugh when the French crowd booed him loudly at the end. The French sure have the boorish thing down.
Click to expand...

This move - when he realized the other guy took the wrong side, he explodes to get to the corner first.

That's what the French are mad about? That's a racing incident, nothing wrong there IMO.
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Pidcock got to the spot first. He had right of way at that point, didn't lean into the French guy, etc. Totally clean pass.
 
Tick said:
The women's MTB race was also great. The winner was dominant, but Haley Batten making a similar charge to Pidcock after a wheel swap to win the silver was fun to watch. That poor French rider Loana Lecompte (spelling) face planting just as the pack caught her was pretty heartbreaking.

I had some loud stuff going on at home while I watched... did they say the winner had the only hardtail in the field?

I didn't realize that so many top riders ride multiple disciplines. Seeing Pidcock after he dropped out of the Tour with Covid was surprising - I assumed he had switched over to road racing, not that he bounced back and forth.
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Yes on the hardtail

 
BobbyLayne said:
Sand said:
Tick said:
Dickies said:
BobbyLayne said:
What a recovery from Pidcock

The Yorkshireman recovered from a puncture and 38 second time loss to regain the lead and win Olympic gold in the men's cross country mountain biking
Click to expand...
Maybe it's because mountain biking is my thing, but I thought this was one of the most exciting Olympic events I watched.
Click to expand...
It was great - Pidcock making that huge comeback after the tire swap (did he walk down that drop when he stopped at it just before the swap?), then the French rider retaking the lead, and that final pass with the bump on the last possible spot before the sprint was amazing.

When Pidcock started his charge after the wheel, it looked like Amos might try to stick with him.
Click to expand...
He was so dominant he would have won by a minute if not for the mechanical. I had to laugh when the French crowd booed him loudly at the end. The French sure have the boorish thing down.
Click to expand...

This move - when he realized the other guy took the wrong side, he explodes to get to the corner first.

That's what the French are mad about? That's a racing incident, nothing wrong there IMO.
Click to expand...
This is a perfectly acceptable pass. i race XC mountain bikes and I don't think you will find one racer who says otherwise. If you aren't allowed to make passes like that then you will have very limited opportunities to pass people. The climbs are usually fire roads or double track which give plenty of room for passing, but the descents are usually single track and the fast descenders should be afforded the same opportunity to pass people that the strong climbers are.
 
Jaysus said:
Tick said:
The women's MTB race was also great. The winner was dominant, but Haley Batten making a similar charge to Pidcock after a wheel swap to win the silver was fun to watch. That poor French rider Loana Lecompte (spelling) face planting just as the pack caught her was pretty heartbreaking.

I had some loud stuff going on at home while I watched... did they say the winner had the only hardtail in the field?

I didn't realize that so many top riders ride multiple disciplines. Seeing Pidcock after he dropped out of the Tour with Covid was surprising - I assumed he had switched over to road racing, not that he bounced back and forth.
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Yes on the hardtail

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I wasn't sure what that said about her front suspension - did she have it locked out all race, essentially riding a rigid bike?
 
Dickies said:
BobbyLayne said:
Sand said:
Tick said:
Dickies said:
BobbyLayne said:
What a recovery from Pidcock

The Yorkshireman recovered from a puncture and 38 second time loss to regain the lead and win Olympic gold in the men's cross country mountain biking
Click to expand...
Maybe it's because mountain biking is my thing, but I thought this was one of the most exciting Olympic events I watched.
Click to expand...
It was great - Pidcock making that huge comeback after the tire swap (did he walk down that drop when he stopped at it just before the swap?), then the French rider retaking the lead, and that final pass with the bump on the last possible spot before the sprint was amazing.

When Pidcock started his charge after the wheel, it looked like Amos might try to stick with him.
Click to expand...
He was so dominant he would have won by a minute if not for the mechanical. I had to laugh when the French crowd booed him loudly at the end. The French sure have the boorish thing down.
Click to expand...

This move - when he realized the other guy took the wrong side, he explodes to get to the corner first.

That's what the French are mad about? That's a racing incident, nothing wrong there IMO.
Click to expand...
This is a perfectly acceptable pass. i race XC mountain bikes and I don't think you will find one racer who says otherwise. If you aren't allowed to make passes like that then you will have very limited opportunities to pass people. The climbs are usually fire roads or double track which give plenty of room for passing, but the descents are usually single track and the fast descenders should be afforded the same opportunity to pass people that the strong climbers are.
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Yeah, that's a good pass - he knew it was a left turn and got there first.
 
No race radios - in the Tokyo Women’s Road Race, the silver medalist thought she had won. Lost count of how many were in the breakaway & who she had chased down.
 
Countries with 3 or 4 riders:
 
Riders per contract team on startlist Olympic Games ME - Road Race

#TEAM#RIDERS
1Lidl - Trek8Hoole, Skujiņš, Kirsch, Skjelmose, Pedersen, Vacek, Gibbons, Stuyven
2Team Visma | Lease a Bike7van Aert, Tratnik, Laporte, Benoot,van Baarle, Valter, Jorgenson
3UAE Team Emirates7Ayuso, Bjerg, Hirschi, Novak, Politt, McNulty, Großschartner
4Israel - Premier Tech6Gee, Einhorn, Clarke, Woods, Strong, Williams
5INEOS Grenadiers6Narváez, Viviani, Foss, Tarling, Pidcock, Sheffield
6Bahrain - Victorious4Arashiro, Mohorič, Buitrago, Wright
7Movistar Team4Oliveira, Rangel, Aranburu, Lazkano
8Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe4Mullen, Schachmann, Haller, Martínez
9Astana Qazaqstan Team4Syritsa, Fedorov, Lutsenko, Mørkøv
10EF Education - EasyPost3Costa, Bettiol, Healy
11Burgos - BH3Sainbayar, Bouglas, Fagúndez
12Groupama - FDJ3Küng, Pithie, Madouas
13Soudal Quick-Step2Evenepoel, Alaphilippe
14Arkéa - B&B Hotels2Vauquelin, Mozzato
15Intermarché - Wanty2Girmay, Mihkels
16Team Jayco AlUla2Mezgec, Matthews
17Tashkent City Professional Cycling Team1Tsvetkov
18Kawkab AC Marrakech1Ed Doghmy
19China Glory - Mentech Continental Cycling Team1Lyu
20Lidl - Trek Future Racing1Söderqvist
21Panamá es Cultura y Valores1Archibold
22Sakarya BB Pro Team1Abay
23Madar Pro Cycling Team1Hamza
24Roojai Insurance1Lau
25Team MCB1Rougier-Lagane
26Ride United1Kagimu
27Shenzhen Xidesheng Cycling Team1Labib Shotorban
28Thailand Continental Cycling Team1Chaiyasombat
29Borac Cacak1Ilić
30LX Cycling Team1Kim
31Lotto Dstny1Sepúlveda
32Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team1O'Connor
33Terengganu Cycling Team1Budyak
34Uno-X Mobility1Wærenskjold
35Elkov - Kasper1Kubiš
36Cofidis1Aniołkowski
37Caja Rural - Seguros RGA1Aular
38Alpecin - Deceuninck1van der Poel
 
TBH the peloton is a pretty weak field - in addition to being just over half the size of UCI races.

Number of riders per team level.

WorldTour61
ProTeam12
Continental12
Below continental5
 
cross post from the Olympic thread (everyone there is probably confused)

Matthieu van dep Poel just attacked with 45 km to go, and Wou Van Aert matched him.

The greatest rivalry in the sport is going to add another chapter.

Mateo Jorgenson 🇺🇸 bridges across!

The winner will come from Chase Group 2 IMO

Situation​

 
Wout was the perfect teammate today - answered every little attack back in Chase 2, wearing everyone out while Remco drove a furious pace

Situation​

 
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