***Official - 2025 Major League Baseball Thread (4 Viewers)

[dutch]

The O's Mike Elias finally makes moves he has to make but two years too late. I hate him. Blew two+ good/great seasons of hope by not supplementing a young core and sitting on his hands every offseason. Corbin Burns was a nice get for 2024 but should have been but a piece not the sole get. 2024 trade dead line acquisition of Eloy Jiminez should be the poster child for malfeasance in running a successful ballclub. Then thumb up azz this offseason going with hope as a plan while his young pitchers continue to struggle with arm issues so he signs 100 year old Charlie Morton(good luck Tigers) to be the veteran presence on the team.

After today the O's roster loses 1,2,4 in both hrs and rbi's and 1,3,6 in runs scored. Also no bullpen arms to speak of except for Yennier "The Human Gas Can" Cano. Elias can't get fired soon enough.

 

[dutch]

Btw, to any Mets fans on the board, you're gonna love Cedric Mullins. True pro and will be a great clubhouse guy along with stealing hearts and home runs from opposing hitters. Stick is good enough and has power to hit it out on occasion. Was the face of the Orioles franchise during a very low period and handled it well. Gonna miss him at Camden Yards.

 

[skol asylum]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

 

[snellman]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

The only thing I have to look forward to as a Twins fan is that they announce a deal is done for the team in the next month and the sale is finalized before the new league year starts. If the Pohlads keep it, this team will be on the level of the Rockies and White Sox bad because they will not put any money into the team at all. I am very surprised they didn't trade Ryan. I am sure that if Lopez had been healthy, he would have been dealt as well.

 

[ChiefD]

@shuke : all in on the Reds. They are building and at least trying to get in the dance.

 

[RG623]

Man, relief pitching sure seems to be expensive yesterday/today.

Bednar for, I think 3 relatively good Yankee prospects. Any Yank fans care to weigh in on what you gave up?

Flores is a highly regarded prospect, not sure about the other two. They are due to give away someone that turns out to be good, but recent history shows the prospects they trade away never turn out to be much.

 

[kupcho1]

Man, relief pitching sure seems to be expensive yesterday/today.

Bednar for, I think 3 relatively good Yankee prospects. Any Yank fans care to weigh in on what you gave up?

Flores is a highly regarded prospect, not sure about the other two. They are due to give away someone that turns out to be good, but recent history shows the prospects they trade away never turn out to be much.

If he's the catcher they were talking about, should be good as the Yankees seem to be able to develop them.

 

[shuke]

@shuke : all in on the Reds. They are building and at least trying to get in the dance.

Was hoping for another big bat, but having Hayes at third lets Noelvi play the outfield. Sounds like Nick Martinez going to the pen with the acquisition of LIttel, I think that's a good move.

 

[irish eyes]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

The only thing I have to look forward to as a Twins fan is that they announce a deal is done for the team in the next month and the sale is finalized before the new league year starts. If the Pohlads keep it, this team will be on the level of the Rockies and White Sox bad because they will not put any money into the team at all. I am very surprised they didn't trade Ryan. I am sure that if Lopez had been healthy, he would have been dealt as well.

MLB is a joke, franchises like these along with the sorry *** pirates steal money. Does anyone actually watch this garbage anymore other than maybe people in 5 or 6 cities?

 

[ChiefD]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

The only thing I have to look forward to as a Twins fan is that they announce a deal is done for the team in the next month and the sale is finalized before the new league year starts. If the Pohlads keep it, this team will be on the level of the Rockies and White Sox bad because they will not put any money into the team at all. I am very surprised they didn't trade Ryan. I am sure that if Lopez had been healthy, he would have been dealt as well.

MLB is a joke, franchises like these along with the sorry *** pirates steal money. Does anyone actually watch this garbage anymore other than maybe people in 5 or 6 cities?

Royals and Reds both made moves for a push to the playoffs.

Hop on board - there are other teams trying here my friend.

 

[Don Quixote]

Reds one is fun tonight — at least to someone agnostic. Braves scored 8 in the top of the 8th to go up 11-3. Reds now scored 8 in the bottom of the 8th to tie it up at 11-11.

 

[ChiefD]

Reds one is fun tonight — at least to someone agnostic. Braves scored 8 in the top of the 8th to go up 11-3. Reds now scored 8 in the bottom of the 8th to tie it up at 11-11.

Lol. I turned to the rangers seattle game cause i figured it was over.

 

[ChiefD]

And no outs? Wif

 

[Don Quixote]

Reds one is fun tonight — at least to someone agnostic. Braves scored 8 in the top of the 8th to go up 11-3. Reds now scored 8 in the bottom of the 8th to tie it up at 11-11.

Lol. I turned to the rangers seattle game cause i figured it was over.

I considered the same, but glad I left it on.

 

[irish eyes]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

The only thing I have to look forward to as a Twins fan is that they announce a deal is done for the team in the next month and the sale is finalized before the new league year starts. If the Pohlads keep it, this team will be on the level of the Rockies and White Sox bad because they will not put any money into the team at all. I am very surprised they didn't trade Ryan. I am sure that if Lopez had been healthy, he would have been dealt as well.

MLB is a joke, franchises like these along with the sorry *** pirates steal money. Does anyone actually watch this garbage anymore other than maybe people in 5 or 6 cities?

Royals and Reds both made moves for a push to the playoffs.

Hop on board - there are other teams trying here my friend.

Try following Pittsburgh, owner has no business having a team. He does not care one iota if they win or not. He gets his money year after year & they will NEVER have a chance. He laughs as fools flock to buy stupid bobbleheads a couple times a year. The people that do that should be ashamed to give that clown one penny of their hard earned money. That is my hometown team but I will never spend a single dime as long as that thief owns the team.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Royals and Reds both made moves for a push to the playoffs

The Royals got a favorite of @Eephus in Yaz.

 

[urbanhack]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

The only thing I have to look forward to as a Twins fan is that they announce a deal is done for the team in the next month and the sale is finalized before the new league year starts. If the Pohlads keep it, this team will be on the level of the Rockies and White Sox bad because they will not put any money into the team at all. I am very surprised they didn't trade Ryan. I am sure that if Lopez had been healthy, he would have been dealt as well.

White Sox are trending up brah.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

White Sox are trending up brah.

Keeping Luis Robert was a smart move. I think he was just in a rut, and needed time to climb back out.

Also, getting prospects for Houser--a guy they signed off the scrap heap is the kind of small move that is a building block.

 

[skol asylum]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

The only thing I have to look forward to as a Twins fan is that they announce a deal is done for the team in the next month and the sale is finalized before the new league year starts. If the Pohlads keep it, this team will be on the level of the Rockies and White Sox bad because they will not put any money into the team at all. I am very surprised they didn't trade Ryan. I am sure that if Lopez had been healthy, he would have been dealt as well.

Looks like they also tried to trade Ryan. Imagine how worse they would be? I wish they would have at least kept a couple of pitchers like Jax for example to help with that loss of Duran.

 

[snellman]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

The only thing I have to look forward to as a Twins fan is that they announce a deal is done for the team in the next month and the sale is finalized before the new league year starts. If the Pohlads keep it, this team will be on the level of the Rockies and White Sox bad because they will not put any money into the team at all. I am very surprised they didn't trade Ryan. I am sure that if Lopez had been healthy, he would have been dealt as well.

Looks like they also tried to trade Ryan. Imagine how worse they would be? I wish they would have at least kept a couple of pitchers like Jax for example to help with that loss of Duran.

The move that has me the most confused is Varland. He was still making minimum and wasn't even due for arbitration for 2 years. I would not be surprised if one or both of Ryan and Lopez are moved this offseason. I am not moved by the return of any of these deals. How many LH hitting OF do they need. It seems like this was a true salary dump and we have just seen the beginning. It is going to be painful to be a Twins fan the next few years.

 

[rockaction]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

The only thing I have to look forward to as a Twins fan is that they announce a deal is done for the team in the next month and the sale is finalized before the new league year starts. If the Pohlads keep it, this team will be on the level of the Rockies and White Sox bad because they will not put any money into the team at all. I am very surprised they didn't trade Ryan. I am sure that if Lopez had been healthy, he would have been dealt as well.

Looks like they also tried to trade Ryan. Imagine how worse they would be? I wish they would have at least kept a couple of pitchers like Jax for example to help with that loss of Duran.

The move that has me the most confused is Varland. He was still making minimum and wasn't even due for arbitration for 2 years. I would not be surprised if one or both of Ryan and Lopez are moved this offseason. I am not moved by the return of any of these deals. How many LH hitting OF do they need. It seems like this was a true salary dump and we have just seen the beginning. It is going to be painful to be a Twins fan the next few years.

Too many hands in the till in that owners’ box. Pray tell and sell! sell! sell!

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Sucks that May didn’t work out for the Dodgers

 

[urbanhack]

White Sox are trending up brah.

Keeping Luis Robert was a smart move. I think he was just in a rut, and needed time to climb back out.

Also, getting prospects for Houser--a guy they signed off the scrap heap is the kind of small move that is a building block.

Agreed. They have a great base of SP...they need bats and RPs.

Finish the second over .500 and retool just a bit in the off season. Montgomery, Teel, and some other young prospects are starting to create a nice foundation.

 

[urbanhack]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

The only thing I have to look forward to as a Twins fan is that they announce a deal is done for the team in the next month and the sale is finalized before the new league year starts. If the Pohlads keep it, this team will be on the level of the Rockies and White Sox bad because they will not put any money into the team at all. I am very surprised they didn't trade Ryan. I am sure that if Lopez had been healthy, he would have been dealt as well.

Looks like they also tried to trade Ryan. Imagine how worse they would be? I wish they would have at least kept a couple of pitchers like Jax for example to help with that loss of Duran.

The move that has me the most confused is Varland. He was still making minimum and wasn't even due for arbitration for 2 years. I would not be surprised if one or both of Ryan and Lopez are moved this offseason. I am not moved by the return of any of these deals. How many LH hitting OF do they need. It seems like this was a true salary dump and we have just seen the beginning. It is going to be painful to be a Twins fan the next few years.

Which prospects are coming up to fill the gaps?

 

[KarmaPolice]

Loving that the Mariners were so active this week, and hoping it's enough to go farther in the playoffs!!

I thought they should have just found a way to get Miller while they were in Oak and load him on the plane with Geno, but that didn't happen.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Man, relief pitching sure seems to be expensive yesterday/today.

Bednar for, I think 3 relatively good Yankee prospects. Any Yank fans care to weigh in on what you gave up?

Not too much. The jewels of the farm system are still there. Overall very happy with the deadline work by Cashman.

 

[Dickies]

The Giant's season has been such a roller coaster. They were right there in the hunt with the Dodgers with the only thing holding them back was hitting. They proceed to add one of the best bats in baseball, who suddenly forgets how to hit a fastball, and the offense somehow gets even worse. Now they are in complete freefall and seeing their playoff hopes vanish. 0-23 with RISP during their home series vs the Mets.

 

[thecatch]

The Giant's season has been such a roller coaster. They were right there in the hunt with the Dodgers with the only thing holding them back was hitting. They proceed to add one of the best bats in baseball, who suddenly forgets how to hit a fastball, and the offense somehow gets even worse. Now they are in complete freefall and seeing their playoff hopes vanish. 0-23 with RISP during their home series vs the Mets.

At least Posey had the gumption to sell assets when it became clear that this wasn’t working this season. I think he’s been great this season.

 

[Dickies]

The Giant's season has been such a roller coaster. They were right there in the hunt with the Dodgers with the only thing holding them back was hitting. They proceed to add one of the best bats in baseball, who suddenly forgets how to hit a fastball, and the offense somehow gets even worse. Now they are in complete freefall and seeing their playoff hopes vanish. 0-23 with RISP during their home series vs the Mets.

At least Posey had the gumption to sell assets when it became clear that this wasn’t working this season. I think he’s been great this season.

I agree. Not sure I love the Doval move given that they had a couple more years of control, but we'll have to see how it plays out. Was sad to see Rogers and Yaz go. Yaz is my daughter's favorite player.

 

[dkp993]

My Pads swung big again. Can’t say A.J. isn’t doing everything he can to field the team.

 

[Dickies]

My Pads swung big again. Can’t say A.J. isn’t doing everything he can to field the team.

He got rid of Bob Melvin

 

[thecatch]

The Giant's season has been such a roller coaster. They were right there in the hunt with the Dodgers with the only thing holding them back was hitting. They proceed to add one of the best bats in baseball, who suddenly forgets how to hit a fastball, and the offense somehow gets even worse. Now they are in complete freefall and seeing their playoff hopes vanish. 0-23 with RISP during their home series vs the Mets.

At least Posey had the gumption to sell assets when it became clear that this wasn’t working this season. I think he’s been great this season.

I agree. Not sure I love the Doval move given that they had a couple more years of control, but we'll have to see how it plays out. Was sad to see Rogers and Yaz go. Yaz is my daughter's favorite player.

They had team control on Doval but he was going to get pretty sizable salaries in arbitration for the next couple of years. Given that I was never confident when he took the mound, I think unloading his money and getting what looks like at least a decent backup catcher for him was just fine. Rodriguez is an upgrade at closer.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Enjoying yesterday’s work by Preller while hanging with my family on the beach in Maui is about as perfect of a day as I could imagine.

LFGSD!

 

[dkp993]

LFGSD

No truer words have been spoken!!!

Petco is going to be nuts. Can you imagine being Mason Miller and going from a literal minor league park that still wasn’t filling up to the best stadium and crowd in baseball. He’s going to be so amped up dude might throw 105 in his first outing. So fun.

 

[Eephus]

The Royals got a favorite of @Eephus in Yaz.

Yaz certainly has some limitations as a ballplayer but by all accounts, he's a much better human being. Grabbing him out of Orioles' purgatory was one of Farhan's more successful reclamation projects.

His addition raises the level of the Royals' OF from terrible to bad.

 

[Eephus]

The Giant's season has been such a roller coaster. They were right there in the hunt with the Dodgers with the only thing holding them back was hitting. They proceed to add one of the best bats in baseball, who suddenly forgets how to hit a fastball, and the offense somehow gets even worse. Now they are in complete freefall and seeing their playoff hopes vanish. 0-23 with RISP during their home series vs the Mets.

At least Posey had the gumption to sell assets when it became clear that this wasn’t working this season. I think he’s been great this season.

I agree. Not sure I love the Doval move given that they had a couple more years of control, but we'll have to see how it plays out. Was sad to see Rogers and Yaz go. Yaz is my daughter's favorite player.

They had team control on Doval but he was going to get pretty sizable salaries in arbitration for the next couple of years. Given that I was never confident when he took the mound, I think unloading his money and getting what looks like at least a decent backup catcher for him was just fine. Rodriguez is an upgrade at closer.

The deadline market for relievers was so hot it made sense to move Doval. At least the front office was decisive in their moves as sellers and didn't try to thread the needle for 2025.

 

[Eephus]

The Royals got a favorite of @Eephus in Yaz.

Yaz certainly has some limitations as a ballplayer but by all accounts, he's a much better human being. Grabbing him out of Orioles' purgatory was one of Farhan's more successful reclamation projects.

His addition raises the level of the Royals' OF from terrible to bad.

Yaz homers in his first AB for KC

 

[rockaction]

Sucks that May didn’t work out for the Dodgers

I saw him pitch against the Red Sox this past week and was very impressed with his stuff. The Sox must have seen that also. It is too bad he didn't work out for the Dodgers, but Andrew Friedman always seems to know what he's doing so this doesn't make me sanguine about May's future. But I'd be lying if I said his fastball and the way he pitched the other day didn't really pique my interest, and I can think and hope about the possibilities of him out of the pen, or starting and just eating some innings reasonably effectively. He's never had more than 70 IP in his career, though, has he? I was looking at Baseball Reference on my phone and was hoping that wasn't the case, but that's what it told me, and maybe it is so. Or maybe I was looking at the wrong thing? I honestly don't know.

So the Red Sox essentially stood pat and I don't blame them. Bloom built a reasonable farm system that Dombrowski and Ben Cherington had scorched to the earth's core, apparently. Cut down all the trees in the forest. Left no cigarettes but all butts in a dirty ash tray. You get the idea. Regardless, things are looking up in that respect and they didn't waste their precious resources on rentals.

I'm also happy about them not trading Duran, who is heating up again even though his peripherals said he was lucky last year and he hasn't matched last year's numbers (predictably). But he's still somebody you're not looking to dump and if you trade him, you'd better get a ton. I wouldn't even have been too upset if they traded Bregman. Hear me out, please. Their decision to not trade him is really like adding by staying put because by not trading him they allow him to exercise a $40 million per year player option on his contract and he will almost assuredly do so. Nobody is going to pay that for him. So it's really Bregman for Devers. Bregman will count $34 million against the luxury tax, and Devers would have been $29 million against it. So if Sox fans were looking for the Devers savings to go to new guys, look no further than your new third baseman who apparently has some sort of weird leg problem that seems to me to be degenerative in some way.

But that's okay. Devers has been miserable for SF (.220 avg. and 102 OPS+, which is not worth $27 million dollars considering the OPS+ is totally average and park-adjusted already) and the suck-up-to-the-player press, as always, has been wrong.

Peace and good tidings!

 

[BeTheMatch]

The Twins have gutted the team. Crazy.

The only thing I have to look forward to as a Twins fan is that they announce a deal is done for the team in the next month and the sale is finalized before the new league year starts. If the Pohlads keep it, this team will be on the level of the Rockies and White Sox bad because they will not put any money into the team at all. I am very surprised they didn't trade Ryan. I am sure that if Lopez had been healthy, he would have been dealt as well.

Looks like they also tried to trade Ryan. Imagine how worse they would be? I wish they would have at least kept a couple of pitchers like Jax for example to help with that loss of Duran.

The move that has me the most confused is Varland. He was still making minimum and wasn't even due for arbitration for 2 years. I would not be surprised if one or both of Ryan and Lopez are moved this offseason. I am not moved by the return of any of these deals. How many LH hitting OF do they need. It seems like this was a true salary dump and we have just seen the beginning. It is going to be painful to be a Twins fan the next few years.

Oakland has come to Minnesota. The Pohlads are complete idiots. How does this make the team more attractive to a potential buyer? Anyone buying a ticket while Pohlads own the team should be punched in the face.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

wow - the Brewers scored 38 runs in a three game series at the Nats.

 

[Don Quixote]

wow - the Brewers scored 38 runs in a three game series at the Nats.

Nats are one to bet on the offense against. Nats basically have no pitchers left other than Gore.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

wow - the Brewers scored 38 runs in a three game series at the Nats.

Nats are one to bet on the offense against. Nats basically have no pitchers left other than Gore.

I noticed that in the first game when they left Parker out there forever. He gave up 5 runs in the 3rd inning but came back out in the 4th and then was finally pulled in the 5th after giving up a couple more for 8 ER total.

 

[Don Quixote]

wow - the Brewers scored 38 runs in a three game series at the Nats.

Nats are one to bet on the offense against. Nats basically have no pitchers left other than Gore.

I noticed that in the first game when they left Parker out there forever. He gave up 5 runs in the 3rd inning but came back out in the 4th and then was finally pulled in the 5th after giving up a couple more for 8 ER total.

They had the worst bullpen ERA in the majors, and then traded away their 3 best RP’s at the trade deadline.

 

[Eephus]

Pouring one out for left-handed pitcher Alex Wood who announced his retirement today after a twelve year MLB career. He was an underrated pitcher when healthy. His combination of decent strikeouts and low walks made him good fantasy option so he was a regular on my fantasy team rosters.

It's fitting that his B-R comps include Alex Cobb because I confused the two on more than one occasion.

1. Sean Manaea (966.3)
2. Jaime García (965.6)
3. Carlos Rodón (964.8)
4. Tanner Roark (961.9)
5. Alex Cobb (961.8)
6. Jake Odorizzi (959.2)
7. Chris Young (955.1)
8. Ben McDonald (953.3)
9. Danny Duffy (950.7)
10. Robbie Ray (948.7)

 

[Bracie Smathers]

I bet Nolan could still strike out the entire Marlins lineup.

Did a 63 Year Old Nolan Ryan Actually Throw an 86 MPH First Pitch?

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

 

[rockaction]

Bregman two straight nights with a home run back in Houston. Missing the lower-walled short porch I guess.

Narvaez with a shot that would have clanged off of the Monster but was a three-run homer and the Sox look to get back on track up 6-0 with May having struck out 8 through 5 1/3. Like his stuff. Let’s see if he can harness it.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

The Brewers are on an epic run, brochacos. They wore down Paul Skenes tonight--90+ pitches in four innings, and then went medieval on the Pirates bullpen.

In his last two starts against the Brewers he’s got the same line — 4 earned runs in 4 innings pitched for two Ls.

They won 7 straight going into the all-star break and are 19-4 since.

 

[rockaction]

Boy, they need the strike zone challenge. I know we're used to it as baseball fans, but Angels/Dodgers were tied at 6-6 in the bottom of the ninth with the bases loaded and two out. The count goes to 3-0 and then the pitcher throws a ball that is half a foot (eh, four inches but clearly) off the plate and the ump gives him the courtesy strike. So the pitcher takes a breath and tosses another strike (taken), and then the Angels hitter swings and misses with the count 3-2. Strikeout.

Game should have been over with ball four on 3-0. Not very good. I had turned to the people next to me after the third ball, which wasn't that close and said, "he's not getting that call on 3-0," and sure enough, he didn't. On to the 10th. With a runner on second. Awesome rulez and unwritten rulez, guys.

I mean, as soon as you start with the ghost man on second, you ought to officiate it to the letter to try and avoid that sort of arbitrary situation.

 

[-fish-]

I'm sorry, but I need to make my Dave Roberts rant.

This guy is the worst manager in baseball. Yes, he has eleven division titles in 12 years and two* world series titles as a manager. But it's because of the talent, not his managing.
They've won despite him, and should have wone more. He used to just make terrible decisions with his pitching staff, but over the last few years he's decided to make awful decisions regarding his lineup as well. He quits on games, schedules planned losses, and refuses field his best players on a day to day basis. Michael Conforto is statistically the worst player in the MLB, and he let him strike out with the bases loaded today with Will Smith on the bench (2nd best average with RISP in the NL).

I bleed Dodgers blue, but if them missing the playoffs will get him fired this year I'm willing to take it.

He and Prior need to go.