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If this Royce Lewis guy could stay healthy, amirite?
26 gp, 19 runs, 11 hr's, 20 rbi's
For a normal human that would project out to 118 runs, 60 hrs, 120 rbis
But to Lewis or Buxton, you're looking at about 1/3 of that, with fingers crossed. Twins are cursed.
 
guru_007 said:
If this Royce Lewis guy could stay healthy, amirite?
26 gp, 19 runs, 11 hr's, 20 rbi's
For a normal human that would project out to 118 runs, 60 hrs, 120 rbis
But to Lewis or Buxton, you're looking at about 1/3 of that, with fingers crossed. Twins are cursed.
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As a Twins fan, the kid is very special to watch and the curse is very real. It has been written that they believe these soft tissue injuries may be related to the 2 knee surgeries he had, so hopefully it will get better, but soft tissue injuries are so hard to predict and can nag a player for a long time. If he could stay healthy and get into a groove, he could be very special to watch.
 
Grahamburn said:
This guy Crochet says if he's traded to a playoff team he's not pitching unless he gets an extension? What in the eff?
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It's his agent saying this, not the player.

He's already had one Tommy John surgery so his management team wants to protect him at all costs. Why? Because he's making only $800,000 this year, making him one of the best bargains in baseball. His K-rate is terrific (160K/114IP). His agent would be guilty of malpractice if he didn't ask for more money and an extension. He has to protect his assets.

Per the NY Post:

Crochet is making just $800,000 this season, according to Spotrac.

Asking for an extension, though, takes away the financial advantage of trading for a player who has yet to reach free agency.

This move by Crochet’s management team, CAA, comes with some precedent, namely in 2015 when star Mets pitcher Matt Harvey and his agent Scott Boras looked to limit his innings to 180.
If anything, that’s a cautionary tale for Crochet and his management.

Harvey blew past that figured as the Mets reached the World Series, ultimately hurling 215 innings. The star righty ended up undergoing Thoracic Outlet Syndrome the following year and never received the significant long-term contract extension he desired.
 
General Malaise said:
Grahamburn said:
This guy Crochet says if he's traded to a playoff team he's not pitching unless he gets an extension? What in the eff?
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It's his agent saying this, not the player.

He's already had one Tommy John surgery so his management team wants to protect him at all costs. Why? Because he's making only $800,000 this year, making him one of the best bargains in baseball. His K-rate is terrific (160K/114IP). His agent would be guilty of malpractice if he didn't ask for more money and an extension. He has to protect his assets.

Per the NY Post:

Crochet is making just $800,000 this season, according to Spotrac.

Asking for an extension, though, takes away the financial advantage of trading for a player who has yet to reach free agency.

This move by Crochet’s management team, CAA, comes with some precedent, namely in 2015 when star Mets pitcher Matt Harvey and his agent Scott Boras looked to limit his innings to 180.
If anything, that’s a cautionary tale for Crochet and his management.

Harvey blew past that figured as the Mets reached the World Series, ultimately hurling 215 innings. The star righty ended up undergoing Thoracic Outlet Syndrome the following year and never received the significant long-term contract extension he desired.
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Oh. I know why he (his agent) is saying it. Don't want that mentality anywhere near my baseball club and if I were an owner I'd never extend him nor approve a trade for him.
 
Grahamburn said:
General Malaise said:
Grahamburn said:
This guy Crochet says if he's traded to a playoff team he's not pitching unless he gets an extension? What in the eff?
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It's his agent saying this, not the player.

He's already had one Tommy John surgery so his management team wants to protect him at all costs. Why? Because he's making only $800,000 this year, making him one of the best bargains in baseball. His K-rate is terrific (160K/114IP). His agent would be guilty of malpractice if he didn't ask for more money and an extension. He has to protect his assets.

Per the NY Post:

Crochet is making just $800,000 this season, according to Spotrac.

Asking for an extension, though, takes away the financial advantage of trading for a player who has yet to reach free agency.

This move by Crochet’s management team, CAA, comes with some precedent, namely in 2015 when star Mets pitcher Matt Harvey and his agent Scott Boras looked to limit his innings to 180.
If anything, that’s a cautionary tale for Crochet and his management.

Harvey blew past that figured as the Mets reached the World Series, ultimately hurling 215 innings. The star righty ended up undergoing Thoracic Outlet Syndrome the following year and never received the significant long-term contract extension he desired.
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Oh. I know why he (his agent) is saying it. Don't want that mentality anywhere near my baseball club and if I were an owner I'd never extend him nor approve a trade for him.
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I'm sure his attitude would change immediately with a new team and a contract extension. I don't fault any player for wanting to protect themselves.
 
The trade between the Cubs and Tampa of Christopher Morel and Isaac Paredes is interesting in how their value is measured by the "traditional" versus "advanced" stats.

Morel has dreadful traditional numbers: sub .200 average/300 OBP. But his exit velocity and hard hit rate are very good and suggest that he has been terribly unlucky.

Paredes has decent traditional numbers: .250 average/355 OBP. But his hard hit rate and exit velocity are in the bottom tier, and he is considered to have been lucky.

The sense from the advanced stats guys is that Paredes is at his ceiling while Morel is at his floor.

As a Cubs homer, it was a lot of fun to root for Morel. He had a lot of energy and enthusiasm and seemed a great teammate. When he would get a hold of one, it was something to behold. His defensive struggles at 3B were an issue and there was nowhere else to play him (Hoerner at 2B and Ian Happ in LF are Gold Glovers).
 
As a Cards fan I'm bummed we traded away Edman. But he hasn't played all year and we have a semi crowded OF now, so I get it. And by adding a starter to the rotation, I'm happy. Just wish it had been Carlson instead, but the Dodgers likely didn't want him.
 
Encyclopedia Brown said:
The trade between the Cubs and Tampa of Christopher Morel and Isaac Paredes is interesting in how their value is measured by the "traditional" versus "advanced" stats.

Morel has dreadful traditional numbers: sub .200 average/300 OBP. But his exit velocity and hard hit rate are very good and suggest that he has been terribly unlucky.

Paredes has decent traditional numbers: .250 average/355 OBP. But his hard hit rate and exit velocity are in the bottom tier, and he is considered to have been lucky.

The sense from the advanced stats guys is that Paredes is at his ceiling while Morel is at his floor.

As a Cubs homer, it was a lot of fun to root for Morel. He had a lot of energy and enthusiasm and seemed a great teammate. When he would get a hold of one, it was something to behold. His defensive struggles at 3B were an issue and there was nowhere else to play him (Hoerner at 2B and Ian Happ in LF are Gold Glovers).
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Spot on. I'm a fan of both teams and have watched both players. Prevailing thought is Paredes pull power won't play as well in Wrigley with 40 more feet down the left field line. I think I saw that several (6) of his homers would have been outs in the friendly confines. Throw in the pitching prospects and this one feels like a win for the Rays. Weird deal for the Cubs.

Morel will probably platoon in the OF and DH because another big reason for this deal is the Rays are making room for Caminero at 3rd.
 
Grahamburn said:
Weird deal for the Cubs
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Morel and Crow-Armstrong in the same lineup is simply untenable at this point in time. PCA's numbers are worse than Morel but he has already earned 1 WAR with his elite defense and baserunning.

If the Cubs were in full rebuild/sell mode then maybe both guys could be everyday players with the opportunity to refine their skills.
 
bryhamm said:
As a Cards fan I'm bummed we traded away Edman. But he hasn't played all year and we have a semi crowded OF now, so I get it. And by adding a starter to the rotation, I'm happy. Just wish it had been Carlson instead, but the Dodgers likely didn't want him.
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as a Dodger fan, I'm super happy to get Edman. I've always liked him. great defense, speed, solid bat with some occasional pop. unsurprisingly, the casual Dodger fans are grumbling because he's not a superstar and that doesn't move the needle enough for them, but I'm super happy with it.
 
Maik Jeaunz said:
bryhamm said:
As a Cards fan I'm bummed we traded away Edman. But he hasn't played all year and we have a semi crowded OF now, so I get it. And by adding a starter to the rotation, I'm happy. Just wish it had been Carlson instead, but the Dodgers likely didn't want him.
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as a Dodger fan, I'm super happy to get Edman. I've always liked him. great defense, speed, solid bat with some occasional pop. unsurprisingly, the casual Dodger fans are grumbling because he's not a superstar and that doesn't move the needle enough for them, but I'm super happy with it.
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Couple more "nobodies" picked up at the deadline
 
Oneil Cruz can hit a ball a long, long way, but I haven't seen a player in the field have that bad a game since coaching t-ball. He cost the Pirates a sweep in Houston last night.
Courtesy of something called kdhnews:

"Houston’s comeback began in the bottom of the second, when Jeremy Pena reached on Cruz’s first error of the evening. Pena went on to score off a wild pitch that came during an 0-2 count with two outs.

Cruz would provide further damage to his own club in the following frame. With a runner on first and two outs, Yordan Alvarez sent a fly ball to shallow left field near the foul line. Cruz and Pirates left fielder Bryan Reynolds both raced to snag the ball, which would have ended the inning. But rather than either Pirate making the catch, the two collided, allowing the ball to drop to the grass."

To be fair, they didn't really collide, but Cruz certainly got in the way of what should have been a routine fly ball (that was hit sky roof high). Also, I'm not sure how aggressively Reynolds was calling for it, but man did he look pissed when the camera cut to him shortly after this travesty of a play.
 
kupcho1 said:
"Houston’s comeback began in the bottom of the second,
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This doesn't seem like it really falls in the "comeback" category. Comebacks are more like happening in the 7/8/9 innings. Also, there are plenty of players that have had 2 error games. Doesn't seem like this really cost the Pirates the win as they still had a lead into the 6th and stopped scoring after the 2nd inning.

I am more pissed about his hitting as he is 0 for 9 with 7 strikeouts over the last two games. He is killing me
 
kupcho1 said:
Oneil Cruz can hit a ball a long, long way, but I haven't seen a player in the field have that bad a game since coaching t-ball. He cost the Pirates a sweep in Houston last night.
Courtesy of something called kdhnews:

"Houston’s comeback began in the bottom of the second, when Jeremy Pena reached on Cruz’s first error of the evening. Pena went on to score off a wild pitch that came during an 0-2 count with two outs.

Cruz would provide further damage to his own club in the following frame. With a runner on first and two outs, Yordan Alvarez sent a fly ball to shallow left field near the foul line. Cruz and Pirates left fielder Bryan Reynolds both raced to snag the ball, which would have ended the inning. But rather than either Pirate making the catch, the two collided, allowing the ball to drop to the grass."

To be fair, they didn't really collide, but Cruz certainly got in the way of what should have been a routine fly ball (that was hit sky roof high). Also, I'm not sure how aggressively Reynolds was calling for it, but man did he look pissed when the camera cut to him shortly after this travesty of a play.
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I was at that game and the one Tuesday night. Oneil Cruz has the worst presence of any athlete I've seen in recent years. He looks totally aloof and disinterested in being on the field. It was striking (!) on his (frequent) strikeouts how he would saunter off the field as slowly as possible. Just terrible body language and engagement. Doesn't look like he wants to be there.
 
Ron Swanson said:
kupcho1 said:
Oneil Cruz can hit a ball a long, long way, but I haven't seen a player in the field have that bad a game since coaching t-ball. He cost the Pirates a sweep in Houston last night.
Courtesy of something called kdhnews:

"Houston’s comeback began in the bottom of the second, when Jeremy Pena reached on Cruz’s first error of the evening. Pena went on to score off a wild pitch that came during an 0-2 count with two outs.

Cruz would provide further damage to his own club in the following frame. With a runner on first and two outs, Yordan Alvarez sent a fly ball to shallow left field near the foul line. Cruz and Pirates left fielder Bryan Reynolds both raced to snag the ball, which would have ended the inning. But rather than either Pirate making the catch, the two collided, allowing the ball to drop to the grass."

To be fair, they didn't really collide, but Cruz certainly got in the way of what should have been a routine fly ball (that was hit sky roof high). Also, I'm not sure how aggressively Reynolds was calling for it, but man did he look pissed when the camera cut to him shortly after this travesty of a play.
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I was at that game and the one Tuesday night. Oneil Cruz has the worst presence of any athlete I've seen in recent years. He looks totally aloof and disinterested in being on the field. It was striking (!) on his (frequent) strikeouts how he would saunter off the field as slowly as possible. Just terrible body language and engagement. Doesn't look like he wants to be there.
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To be fair, he is in Pittsburgh.
 
loser said:
Ron Swanson said:
kupcho1 said:
Oneil Cruz can hit a ball a long, long way, but I haven't seen a player in the field have that bad a game since coaching t-ball. He cost the Pirates a sweep in Houston last night.
Courtesy of something called kdhnews:

"Houston’s comeback began in the bottom of the second, when Jeremy Pena reached on Cruz’s first error of the evening. Pena went on to score off a wild pitch that came during an 0-2 count with two outs.

Cruz would provide further damage to his own club in the following frame. With a runner on first and two outs, Yordan Alvarez sent a fly ball to shallow left field near the foul line. Cruz and Pirates left fielder Bryan Reynolds both raced to snag the ball, which would have ended the inning. But rather than either Pirate making the catch, the two collided, allowing the ball to drop to the grass."

To be fair, they didn't really collide, but Cruz certainly got in the way of what should have been a routine fly ball (that was hit sky roof high). Also, I'm not sure how aggressively Reynolds was calling for it, but man did he look pissed when the camera cut to him shortly after this travesty of a play.
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I was at that game and the one Tuesday night. Oneil Cruz has the worst presence of any athlete I've seen in recent years. He looks totally aloof and disinterested in being on the field. It was striking (!) on his (frequent) strikeouts how he would saunter off the field as slowly as possible. Just terrible body language and engagement. Doesn't look like he wants to be there.
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To be fair, he is in Pittsburgh.
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Username checks out.
 
General Malaise said:
CGRdrJoe said:
The A’s owner is such a douche, they’ve jacked ticket prices to over $100 for nosebleeds for the final home game. God I hope no one shows up for that final game
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How is this guy allowed to continue with his ownership? He's horrible for the game of baseball.
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Look how long it took to get a guy like Donald Sterling out of the NBA or Snyder out of the NFL. This guy has a lot of years before he comes even close.
 
Some of Phillies homers on the Twitters are venting serious rage at Bryce Harper.

The dude has had one bad month and now suddenly he has morphed into Del Unser?
 
Freddie Freeman’s son Max has Guillain Barre.

www.espn.com

Dodgers' Freeman says son, 3, has Guillain-Barré

Dodgers first baseman Freddie Freeman revealed that his 3-year-old son, Maximus, is suffering from Guillain-Barré, a rare neurological disorder.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

My wife had this as a child. Recovery rate is high but there can be some lingering issues for some people. He’ll have to relearn how to walk. Such a scary situation for parents and the kid.

I hated Freeman and the Braves couldn’t work it out but he’s one of the best dudes in the league. Throwpawishes to little Max and the Freeman family.
 
Mike Trout, oh what could have been.
He'll turn 33 in a few days and out for the season again. Not sure how much left in the tank there, nor the want being that he is on a team that is nowhere close to being competitive.
3 playoff games in a 14 year career. THREE.

First 9 years, averaged 132 games played, 32 hr's, 84 rbis, to go with a 1.000 OPS and 171 OPS+
Last 5 years he's averaged ~60 games played, 20 homers, 40 rbis (but an immense 958 OPS, 161 OPS+ while playing)

Shoe in for HOF, and still getting paid for the next 6 years so his bank account isn't hurting, but I mean, just imagine if this guy did what he did on a good team earlier in his career and didn't break down in his late 20's so badly.
 
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