***Official - 2025 Major League Baseball Thread (7 Viewers)

[dino259]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

What the hell is he doing?

Or not slide feet first.

 

[Eephus]

The Toronto coaching staff has been getting criticized for over-aggressiveness earlier in the series but now they're being blamed for under-aggressiveness on IKF's lead at third.

I assume they're trying to stay out of a double play on a line out but with a left handed hitter at the plate, he could have extended a couple of feet.

 

[Runkle]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

What the hell is he doing?

Reading "he was afraid of getting doubled off on a line drive to third base"

 

[Gally]

You simply don't take Bo's bat out of the lineup.

The only way I do that is if he gets to 2B with 2 outs or 3B with less than 2 outs. Until then you leave him in.

 

[Gally]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

Wow. That is a horrible lead.

I didn't realize that he was that close and I was surprised he was thrown out because IKF is fairly fast.

 

[belljr]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

What the hell is he doing?

Reading "he was afraid of getting doubled off on a line drive to third base"

Sure but you usually mirror the 3b distance

 

[Gally]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

What the hell is he doing?

Reading "he was afraid of getting doubled off on a line drive to third base"

Sure but you usually mirror the 3b distance

Not to mention Varsho is a left handed pull hitter very unlikely to hit a line drive to 3B especially when his goal is to hit a fly ball and elevate something.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

What the hell is he doing?

Reading "he was afraid of getting doubled off on a line drive to third base"

Sure but you usually mirror the 3b distance

Not to mention Varsho is a left handed pull hitter very unlikely to hit a line drive to 3B especially when his goal is to hit a fly ball and elevate something.

This stuff blows my mind. Two really dumb mistakes cost him something he will likely never get a chance at again. And all his teammates. From a pinch-runner to boot???

The secondary lead and/or simply running through home. And he forgets both?! That is stuff you learn in little league.

3 mistakes actually. What the heck was the 3rd base coach thinking? This was the fourth pitch in the sequence. Like, how did he not notice and tell the guy? Hell, no one in the dugout either? You have like 15 coaches and not one picked up on the winning runner not getting a lead. Bizarre.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

What the hell is he doing?

Reading "he was afraid of getting doubled off on a line drive to third base"

Sure but you usually mirror the 3b distance

Not to mention Varsho is a left handed pull hitter very unlikely to hit a line drive to 3B especially when his goal is to hit a fly ball and elevate something.

This stuff blows my mind. Two really dumb mistakes cost him something he will likely never get a chance at again. And all his teammates. From a pinch-runner to boot???

The secondary lead and/or simply running through home. And he forgets both?! That is stuff you learn in little league.

3 mistakes actually. What the heck was the 3rd base coach thinking? This was the fourth pitch in the sequence. Like, how did he not notice and tell the guy? Hell, no one in the dugout either? You have like 15 coaches and not one picked up on the winning runner not getting a lead. Bizarre.

The player gave an interview where he put this squarely on the coaching staff - said he was told to keep it tight to avoid getting doubled on a hard infield line drive. It must be surreal for him and his coaches to look back and realize the extent of their collective blunder on this play. The number of improbable events that all had to come through in the 9th inning alone is uncanny. Fantastic series.

 

[nirad3]

Amazing end to the season! What a game... what a series.

Kudos to the Blue Jays. Aside from Vladdy and Bichette (edit: oh, and I guess Springer), everyone else on the team I really hadn't heard much of. I'm a casual baseball fan that is in a fantasy baseball league but really had no clue how cohesive this Blue Jay team was.

I have a lot of Dodger fan friends seeing that I'm from the LA area so I'm happy for them. Dodgers really are a juggernaut.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

It's amazing to think that the last 2 games both ended on a double play.
I'm a Dodger fan but wouldn't have been disappointed to see the Blue Jays win it as they played so well.

 

[Gally]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

What the hell is he doing?

Reading "he was afraid of getting doubled off on a line drive to third base"

Sure but you usually mirror the 3b distance

Not to mention Varsho is a left handed pull hitter very unlikely to hit a line drive to 3B especially when his goal is to hit a fly ball and elevate something.

This stuff blows my mind. Two really dumb mistakes cost him something he will likely never get a chance at again. And all his teammates. From a pinch-runner to boot???

The secondary lead and/or simply running through home. And he forgets both?! That is stuff you learn in little league.

3 mistakes actually. What the heck was the 3rd base coach thinking? This was the fourth pitch in the sequence. Like, how did he not notice and tell the guy? Hell, no one in the dugout either? You have like 15 coaches and not one picked up on the winning runner not getting a lead. Bizarre.

The player gave an interview where he put this squarely on the coaching staff - said he was told to keep it tight to avoid getting doubled on a hard infield line drive. It must be surreal for him and his coaches to look back and realize the extent of their collective blunder on this play. The number of improbable events that all had to come through in the 9th inning alone is uncanny. Fantastic series.

Even with being cautious not to get doubled up on a line drive you can still extend and read off the bat. Rule of thumb in that situation is step back (and keep going) until line drive is thru the infield. No reason to get that good a jump on a line drive that might be caught. It's the runner's job (and he is a major leaguer after all) to be able to still get off as far as the 3B-man and read the ball off the bat to get a proper lead. That excuse is BS.

 

[dino259]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

What the hell is he doing?

Reading "he was afraid of getting doubled off on a line drive to third base"

Sure but you usually mirror the 3b distance

Not to mention Varsho is a left handed pull hitter very unlikely to hit a line drive to 3B especially when his goal is to hit a fly ball and elevate something.

This stuff blows my mind. Two really dumb mistakes cost him something he will likely never get a chance at again. And all his teammates. From a pinch-runner to boot???

The secondary lead and/or simply running through home. And he forgets both?! That is stuff you learn in little league.

3 mistakes actually. What the heck was the 3rd base coach thinking? This was the fourth pitch in the sequence. Like, how did he not notice and tell the guy? Hell, no one in the dugout either? You have like 15 coaches and not one picked up on the winning runner not getting a lead. Bizarre.

The player gave an interview where he put this squarely on the coaching staff - said he was told to keep it tight to avoid getting doubled on a hard infield line drive. It must be surreal for him and his coaches to look back and realize the extent of their collective blunder on this play. The number of improbable events that all had to come through in the 9th inning alone is uncanny. Fantastic series.

Even with being cautious not to get doubled up on a line drive you can still extend and read off the bat. Rule of thumb in that situation is step back (and keep going) until line drive is thru the infield. No reason to get that good a jump on a line drive that might be caught. It's the runner's job (and he is a major leaguer after all) to be able to still get off as far as the 3B-man and read the ball off the bat to get a proper lead. That excuse is BS.

Probably an overreaction to the game ending double play in game 6.

 

[Gally]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

What the hell is he doing?

Reading "he was afraid of getting doubled off on a line drive to third base"

Sure but you usually mirror the 3b distance

Not to mention Varsho is a left handed pull hitter very unlikely to hit a line drive to 3B especially when his goal is to hit a fly ball and elevate something.

This stuff blows my mind. Two really dumb mistakes cost him something he will likely never get a chance at again. And all his teammates. From a pinch-runner to boot???

The secondary lead and/or simply running through home. And he forgets both?! That is stuff you learn in little league.

3 mistakes actually. What the heck was the 3rd base coach thinking? This was the fourth pitch in the sequence. Like, how did he not notice and tell the guy? Hell, no one in the dugout either? You have like 15 coaches and not one picked up on the winning runner not getting a lead. Bizarre.

The player gave an interview where he put this squarely on the coaching staff - said he was told to keep it tight to avoid getting doubled on a hard infield line drive. It must be surreal for him and his coaches to look back and realize the extent of their collective blunder on this play. The number of improbable events that all had to come through in the 9th inning alone is uncanny. Fantastic series.

Even with being cautious not to get doubled up on a line drive you can still extend and read off the bat. Rule of thumb in that situation is step back (and keep going) until line drive is thru the infield. No reason to get that good a jump on a line drive that might be caught. It's the runner's job (and he is a major leaguer after all) to be able to still get off as far as the 3B-man and read the ball off the bat to get a proper lead. That excuse is BS.

Probably an overreaction to the game ending double play in game 6.

Maybe but those are two completely different baserunning situations. They should not be handled the same way. Unfortunate for Toronto they handled both incorrectly and it likely cost them a World Series win.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Somewhat lost in that play at the plate in the bottom of the ninth last night was what a terrible lead and jump the Toronto pinch runner had on contact. Any normal lead off and he scores and wins the WS.

The second picture in this post shows how close he was to third when the pitch was away.

https://x.com/mikebeauvais/status/1984851605041398001?s=46&t=y6cC9YGHSWmPAqN66itfRA

What the hell is he doing?

Reading "he was afraid of getting doubled off on a line drive to third base"

Sure but you usually mirror the 3b distance

Not to mention Varsho is a left handed pull hitter very unlikely to hit a line drive to 3B especially when his goal is to hit a fly ball and elevate something.

This stuff blows my mind. Two really dumb mistakes cost him something he will likely never get a chance at again. And all his teammates. From a pinch-runner to boot???

The secondary lead and/or simply running through home. And he forgets both?! That is stuff you learn in little league.

3 mistakes actually. What the heck was the 3rd base coach thinking? This was the fourth pitch in the sequence. Like, how did he not notice and tell the guy? Hell, no one in the dugout either? You have like 15 coaches and not one picked up on the winning runner not getting a lead. Bizarre.

The player gave an interview where he put this squarely on the coaching staff - said he was told to keep it tight to avoid getting doubled on a hard infield line drive. It must be surreal for him and his coaches to look back and realize the extent of their collective blunder on this play. The number of improbable events that all had to come through in the 9th inning alone is uncanny. Fantastic series.

Even with being cautious not to get doubled up on a line drive you can still extend and read off the bat. Rule of thumb in that situation is step back (and keep going) until line drive is thru the infield. No reason to get that good a jump on a line drive that might be caught. It's the runner's job (and he is a major leaguer after all) to be able to still get off as far as the 3B-man and read the ball off the bat to get a proper lead. That excuse is BS.

I agree completely. If the coaches tell you to be aware of the line drive double play, that doesn't mean to sit on the bag. Take what the 3rd base gives you and just freeze on a line drive. It's bizarre to see that at this level.

 

[shuke]

The secondary lead and/or simply running through home. And he forgets both?! That is stuff you learn in little league.

Why are we questioning this so much? Guys slide into home for plays at the plate all the time.

 

[scoobus]

The secondary lead and/or simply running through home. And he forgets both?! That is stuff you learn in little league.

Why are we questioning this so much? Guys slide into home for plays at the plate all the time.

Because it was a force out, not a typical tag play.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

The secondary lead and/or simply running through home. And he forgets both?! That is stuff you learn in little league.

Why are we questioning this so much? Guys slide into home for plays at the plate all the time.

For starters, they could've won the World Series by executing a very basic option better. Why shouldn't that be questioned?

Is your argument really because it's often done incorrectly (simply dumb of them), that it shouldn't be questioned?