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**** Official Aaron Rodgers injury thread ***** (1 Viewer)

shadyridr said:
MattFancy said:
Now I'm no doctor, but I've seen similar shoulder injuries and even had one myself when I played in HS. Here's my uneducated opinion:

If it is indeed broken, wouldn't they have been able to diagnosis that from the x-rays? I remember in HS when our QB broke his collarbone, he was in serious pain and they put his shoulder in a sling right away. Rodgers ran off the field w/o favoring his shoulder and then came back on the field later sans sling.

Now I could be completely wrong, but I don't think it's broken (or at least hope for my fantasy teams sake). I think he probably has a sprain or maybe tiny fracture. If it's a sprain, he could play through it. Brady played through a similar injury and I believe Rodgers has already played through a sprain. I guess we'll know more today. But I don't think it's as severe as some others.
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A sprained collarbone?
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I'm thinking a sprained AC joint.

 
And wasn't Flynn cast offed by how many teams? Flynn is not the answer and probably is no better then Wallace.

 
towney said:
And wasn't Flynn cast offed by how many teams? Flynn is not the answer and probably is no better then Wallace.
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they still need another QB, Wallace n Rodgers were it on the roster.

Maybe they bring back Vince Young since he was in camp. But Im guessing they bring in Flynn

 
I'm visualzing Favre flying out of his chair last night, putting on his sweats and doing his best Rocky training routine, complete with Rocky music dancing in his head.

 
Sounds like Werder and Schefter are on different ends of the spectrum. From Rotoworld:

A Packers source tells ESPN's Ed Werder that Aaron Rodgers' injury "doesn't look good."

The swelling in Rodgers' non-throwing shoulder/collarbone prevented an exact diagnosis Monday night. He's headed for a Tuesday MRI. Werder asked his source if Rodgers could miss the rest of the regular season, and got a "possibly, but they need to see more" response. Fantasy owners need to be making other Week 10 plans as they prepare to put in waiver claims Tuesday. Even in a best-case scenario, it doesn't sound like Rodgers will be playing against the Eagles.
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ESPN SportsCenter - Packers QB Aaron Rodgers has small fracture in collarbone, could miss 3 weeks, sources tell ESPN

 
So basically...we still have a ton of conflicting reports.

Looks like a minimum of a 3 weeks or so if any of the reports are true.

As for Flynn...sure he has been cast off of other places. But he knows the offense. If the elbow is ok enough to throw a little better than Wallace, its obviously worth a shot bringing him in.

VY would have been interesting for last night and thats about it. He may have given the Bears something they were not planning for with his mobility. Then again, he may have thrown into coverage and been picked off 3 times making it a blowout.

I don't think there is any way they go with just Wallace and bring up Tolzien from the PS.

This may also finally put Finley on the IR as they will need some roster movement to pick up a QB and they already have to make a decision this week (I think) on Sherrod.

 
MattFancy said:
shadyridr said:
MattFancy said:
Now I'm no doctor, but I've seen similar shoulder injuries and even had one myself when I played in HS. Here's my uneducated opinion:

If it is indeed broken, wouldn't they have been able to diagnosis that from the x-rays? I remember in HS when our QB broke his collarbone, he was in serious pain and they put his shoulder in a sling right away. Rodgers ran off the field w/o favoring his shoulder and then came back on the field later sans sling.

Now I could be completely wrong, but I don't think it's broken (or at least hope for my fantasy teams sake). I think he probably has a sprain or maybe tiny fracture. If it's a sprain, he could play through it. Brady played through a similar injury and I believe Rodgers has already played through a sprain. I guess we'll know more today. But I don't think it's as severe as some others.
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A sprained collarbone?
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I'm thinking a sprained AC joint.
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On the non-throwing arm, he wouldn't be out long if this is the case.

 
I can live with him being out only 3 weeks. The good news I guess is that this isn't his throwin shoulder so it shouldn't have too much of an effect on him going forward.

 
MattFancy said:
I can live with him being out only 3 weeks. The good news I guess is that this isn't his throwin shoulder so it shouldn't have too much of an effect on him going forward.
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The first sentence is probably true (especially if it's not a fractured collar bone). The second sentence is also true...if it isn't a fractured collar bone. There are two concerns if it is indeed a fractured collar bone:

1) Pain involved in throwing (regardless as to which shoulder/side, as the pressure across the chest as the torque to open the hips is exerted). Even "simple" things, like play-action or a sudden turn to the left can cause pain (think of a back injury).

2) They have to let it heal fully (or very close), or else risk another fracture if he is hit again (which, in the NFL, he almost certainly will be).

 
A Packers source tells ESPN's Ed Werder that Aaron Rodgers' injury "doesn't look good."

The swelling in Rodgers' non-throwing shoulder/collarbone prevented an exact diagnosis Monday night. He's headed for a Tuesday MRI. Werder asked his source if Rodgers could miss the rest of the regular season, and got a "possibly, but they need to see more" response. Fantasy owners need to be making other Week 10 plans as they prepare to put in waiver claims Tuesday. Even in a best-case scenario, it doesn't sound like Rodgers will be playing against the Eagles.
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Clipped from the other Aaron Rodgers injury thread.

What doesn't make sense to me, is the wording "doesn't look good". Relative to what? The Packers source doesn't provide any context. Three weeks is a pretty optimistic timeline if you ask anyone who owns Rodgers. We woke up this morning bracing for news that he would be out for the season. We got a gift if it's only 3 lousy weeks. That looks pretty damn good from where I sit.

 
Tony Romo broke his non-throwing clavicle in week 6 in 2010, and did not return in the regular season. But the hit he took was much worse than Rodgers, so it's easy to believe it's less severe than Romo's. But I'm not believing the three week rumors. Feels like when Cobb first got hurt, and they were saying 2-3 weeks, then put him on IR/return the same night.

My lone source of hope is the fact that he wasn't wearing a sling when he came out. I'd say a month minimum before they even consider bringing him back, and the team's standing in the playoff race will play a big part on whether or not they bring him back during regular season. Obviously, Rodgers is a competitive guy who will lobby to get back on the field ASAP, but it's not a pain management issue. As posted above, if they don't let it fully heal, it's just going to get re-broken.

 
KellysHeroes said:
does this effect the payout from the tweet bet he made about Ryan Braun?
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Please never mention the two in the same sentence again. Even as a Bears fan, I feel bad for Rodgers, as he is a great talent and seems to be a stand up and decent guy. I have nothing but respect for a guy that plays the most important position in all of spots and does it the right way.

Ryan Braun is a cheater and an #######. I would never wish injury on anyone - but if Braun was going to be out for an extended period of time, I wouldn't shed one damn tear.

 
FF Wiseguy said:
Tony Romo broke his non-throwing clavicle in week 6 in 2010, and did not return in the regular season. But the hit he took was much worse than Rodgers, so it's easy to believe it's less severe than Romo's. But I'm not believing the three week rumors. Feels like when Cobb first got hurt, and they were saying 2-3 weeks, then put him on IR/return the same night.

My lone source of hope is the fact that he wasn't wearing a sling when he came out. I'd say a month minimum before they even consider bringing him back, and the team's standing in the playoff race will play a big part on whether or not they bring him back during regular season. Obviously, Rodgers is a competitive guy who will lobby to get back on the field ASAP, but it's not a pain management issue. As posted above, if they don't let it fully heal, it's just going to get re-broken.
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Well if they go by playoff race, they're going to need him. The NFC North and NFC in general are wide open. Detroit, GB, and Chicago are all 5-3. For the WC spot, it's between 2 of those teams SF (6-2), Carolina (5-3), Arizona (4-4), and maybe even Philly (4-5). So they can't afford to sit him if he's healthy.

 
MattFancy said:
FF Wiseguy said:
Tony Romo broke his non-throwing clavicle in week 6 in 2010, and did not return in the regular season. But the hit he took was much worse than Rodgers, so it's easy to believe it's less severe than Romo's. But I'm not believing the three week rumors. Feels like when Cobb first got hurt, and they were saying 2-3 weeks, then put him on IR/return the same night.

My lone source of hope is the fact that he wasn't wearing a sling when he came out. I'd say a month minimum before they even consider bringing him back, and the team's standing in the playoff race will play a big part on whether or not they bring him back during regular season. Obviously, Rodgers is a competitive guy who will lobby to get back on the field ASAP, but it's not a pain management issue. As posted above, if they don't let it fully heal, it's just going to get re-broken.
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Well if they go by playoff race, they're going to need him. The NFC North and NFC in general are wide open. Detroit, GB, and Chicago are all 5-3. For the WC spot, it's between 2 of those teams SF (6-2), Carolina (5-3), Arizona (4-4), and maybe even Philly (4-5). So they can't afford to sit him if he's healthy.
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A lot can change in 3-4 weeks, especially with Seneca Wallace as your QB. What would have been a 3-1 or possibly 4-0 stretch now becomes dicey:

vs. PHI

@ NYG

vs. MIN

@ DET

If they can find a way to split, then yes, get him back the moment he's close to ready. But if it's week 14, and they're sitting 2 games out of a playoff spot, then why risk him if the collarbone's not 100% healed? Like I said, if it were up to him, he'd come back when he's at 80%. But they have to be smarter than that with him.

I think this type of injury doesn't have as much long-term risk as RG3's knee, but there are some lessons to be learned there. And it's not like this is a line that keeps Rodgers untouched back there. He's been one of the most sacked QBs in football the last three years.

 
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FF Wiseguy said:
MattFancy said:
FF Wiseguy said:
Tony Romo broke his non-throwing clavicle in week 6 in 2010, and did not return in the regular season. But the hit he took was much worse than Rodgers, so it's easy to believe it's less severe than Romo's. But I'm not believing the three week rumors. Feels like when Cobb first got hurt, and they were saying 2-3 weeks, then put him on IR/return the same night.

My lone source of hope is the fact that he wasn't wearing a sling when he came out. I'd say a month minimum before they even consider bringing him back, and the team's standing in the playoff race will play a big part on whether or not they bring him back during regular season. Obviously, Rodgers is a competitive guy who will lobby to get back on the field ASAP, but it's not a pain management issue. As posted above, if they don't let it fully heal, it's just going to get re-broken.
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Well if they go by playoff race, they're going to need him. The NFC North and NFC in general are wide open. Detroit, GB, and Chicago are all 5-3. For the WC spot, it's between 2 of those teams SF (6-2), Carolina (5-3), Arizona (4-4), and maybe even Philly (4-5). So they can't afford to sit him if he's healthy.
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A lot can change in 3-4 weeks, especially with Seneca Wallace as your QB. What would have been a 3-1 or possibly 4-0 stretch now becomes dicey:

vs. PHI

@ NYG

vs. MIN

@ DET

If they can find a way to split, then yes, get him back the moment he's close to ready. But if it's week 14, and they're sitting 2 games out of a playoff spot, then why risk him if the collarbone's not 100% healed? Like I said, if it were up to him, he'd come back when he's at 80%. But they have to be smarter than that with him.

I think this type of injury doesn't have as much long-term risk as RG3's knee, but there are some lessons to be learned there. And it's not like this is a line that keeps Rodgers untouched back there. He's been one of the most sacked QBs in football the last three years.
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Well that's why I said if he's healthy. I don't think you rush him back if he's not ready. But if you're the Packers, you can't afford to let him sit if he's at or really close to 100%.

 
Word is that Rodgers will have his normal weekly radio show today at 1:30pm central time. Who knows what, if anything, he'll reveal but you can stream at espnmilwaukee.com if you were so inclined

 
My buddy from Appleton WI was at the airport today for a business trip, he heard Favre was in the airport just a few minutes before he got to the terminal.

 
strykerpks said:
Word is that Rodgers will have his normal weekly radio show today at 1:30pm central time. Who knows what, if anything, he'll reveal but you can stream at espnmilwaukee.com if you were so inclined
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I guess we can take that as a good thing? Can someone provide us with updates from this?

 
MattFancy said:
FF Wiseguy said:
Tony Romo broke his non-throwing clavicle in week 6 in 2010, and did not return in the regular season. But the hit he took was much worse than Rodgers, so it's easy to believe it's less severe than Romo's. But I'm not believing the three week rumors. Feels like when Cobb first got hurt, and they were saying 2-3 weeks, then put him on IR/return the same night.

My lone source of hope is the fact that he wasn't wearing a sling when he came out. I'd say a month minimum before they even consider bringing him back, and the team's standing in the playoff race will play a big part on whether or not they bring him back during regular season. Obviously, Rodgers is a competitive guy who will lobby to get back on the field ASAP, but it's not a pain management issue. As posted above, if they don't let it fully heal, it's just going to get re-broken.
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Well if they go by playoff race, they're going to need him. The NFC North and NFC in general are wide open. Detroit, GB, and Chicago are all 5-3. For the WC spot, it's between 2 of those teams SF (6-2), Carolina (5-3), Arizona (4-4), and maybe even Philly (4-5). So they can't afford to sit him if he's healthy.
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The Lions game is huge for them. If they go 1-2 (beat the Vikings) that puts them at 6-5 but still having a shot at the division if they beat the Lions.

 
Another Packers beat writer:

@RobDemovsky - Source confirms Rodgers does indeed have a broken collarbone. As for a timetable, source said "It's going to be a little while" #Packers

ETA

@RobDemovsky - When asked whether a return for the Thanksgiving game at Detroit was possible, source said that was unclear at this point #Packers

 
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Just checking in here to see if Rodgers still "doesn't look good."

 
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According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Aaron Rodgers (collarbone) could be sidelined about three weeks.

Initial tests showed a small fracture in Rodgers' collarbone. Per Schefter, the Packers don't want to make any official determination until their quarterback undergoes even more testing Tuesday. But if this three-week timetable proves accurate, Rodgers would target the Week 13 Thanksgiving game against the Lions for his return. It's a blessing for fantasy owners, as he'd be back for the fantasy playoffs. The Packers sound like they'll stick with Seneca Wallace as their interim starter despite his woeful Monday Night relief performance. They essentially chose Wallace over old friend Matt Flynn earlier this season. Scott Tolzien is on the Packers' practice squad.
3 weeks isn't bad... oh wait its Schefy

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ESPN's Rob Demovsky confirms Aaron Rodgers has been diagnosed with a broken collarbone, and that "it's going to be a little while" before he returns.

A "little while" is as unscientific as it gets, but Demovsky's colleague Adam Schefter reported earlier Tuesday that Rodgers is expected to miss in the neighborhood of three weeks with a "small fracture." At least going by the vague language, we still don't have an exact diagnosis, but Rodgers can be safely ruled out for Week 10, and likely Weeks 11 and 12, as well. It's a massive downgrade for the Packers' entire offense. With Seneca Wallace under center, Jordy Nelson and Eddie Lacy will be the Packers' only worthwhile fantasy options for Week 10. James Jones is a WR4.

Hes pretty much done for the FF season
 
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KellysHeroes said:
According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Aaron Rodgers (collarbone) could be sidelined about three weeks.

Initial tests showed a small fracture in Rodgers' collarbone. Per Schefter, the Packers don't want to make any official determination until their quarterback undergoes even more testing Tuesday. But if this three-week timetable proves accurate, Rodgers would target the Week 13 Thanksgiving game against the Lions for his return. It's a blessing for fantasy owners, as he'd be back for the fantasy playoffs. The Packers sound like they'll stick with Seneca Wallace as their interim starter despite his woeful Monday Night relief performance. They essentially chose Wallace over old friend Matt Flynn earlier this season. Scott Tolzien is on the Packers' practice squad.
3 weeks isn't bad... oh wait its Schefy

Next update

ESPN's Rob Demovsky confirms Aaron Rodgers has been diagnosed with a broken collarbone, and that "it's going to be a little while" before he returns.

A "little while" is as unscientific as it gets, but Demovsky's colleague Adam Schefter reported earlier Tuesday that Rodgers is expected to miss in the neighborhood of three weeks with a "small fracture." At least going by the vague language, we still don't have an exact diagnosis, but Rodgers can be safely ruled out for Week 10, and likely Weeks 11 and 12, as well. It's a massive downgrade for the Packers' entire offense. With Seneca Wallace under center, Jordy Nelson and Eddie Lacy will be the Packers' only worthwhile fantasy options for Week 10. James Jones is a WR4.

Hes pretty much done for the FF season
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Why do you keep knocking Schefter? The information he initially reported about Randall Cobb soon after his injury was information was the same information being leaked by sources in Green Bay. Schefter does a good job.

 
I'm not in denial that Rodgers could be done for the season, but Shefter's reporting on Cobb's injury shouldn't have any bearing on his reporting here.

 
Rodgers first few comments -

"I'm in some pain"

"I have a fractured collar bone"

"Relative to what's been reported, we haven't talked at all about timetable"

"There's not a specific type of rehab you can do for this"

"I feel like I have been a quick healer in the past"

 
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