**** Official Aaron Rodgers injury thread ***** (1 Viewer)

[Interseptopus]

The collarbone is the only spot in the body where the shoulder connects to the body by joint. A re injury there would be catastrophic

It's not just playing through pain, although he has none. If he re breaks his collarbone now, he would be looking at potentially 6 months of recovery from a rebreak.

How is it catastrophic when he'll have 10 months to heal from a re-break?

RGIII had 10 months to heal. How's he looking?Rodgers would not be able to even run if he were recovering from and ORIF of the clavicle - open reduction internal fixation for those armchair MDs. You really think he'd be at the top of his game?

Furthermore, it would be catastrophic because it may not revascularize, which means it may not heal at all or heal very brittle which means future for re injury. Re breaking a bone, clavicle in particular, that isn't healed all the way is potentially career threatening to a QB. Even if it is the non throwing arm. QBs get hit a lot. Sure, chances aren't real good for that to happen, but how many of you are playing Russian roulette on a weekly basis thinking the chances of killing yourself is only 1/6?

You really seem to be full of yourself and your opinion.

Pot, meet kettleGrading your posts on this topic clearly don't make you an expert in the field.

I think you'd appreciate hearing from someone in the medical profession who knows this stuff very well. It might help you from some informed opinions moving forward.

Interesting, if doctors are always right why do they need malpractice insurance? Anyone can google the topic and put Dr. in front of their name and other football fans realize some play through injuries regardless of injury. Also you can pull a nose hair out of your nose and die, does that mean it will happen doctor?

I don't need to prove a thing to you. I am a doctor. I have my degree. Don't believe me, I really don't care. I'd trust the advise of a doctor over someone who compares a broken clavicle to a separated shoulder. If you want to insult me to try and make my medical expertise less valuable in your mind, make you feel better for being owned by medical evidence, fine by me.Good luck these playoffs. You seem like you need the $

Do doctors typically spell words like advice incorrectly?

Oh what would we do without the spelling/grammar police? Sorry, autocorrect on the ipad. Most times I don't go through and reread my posts, or I don't really care to correct it because most people won't care and it's more effort to try and fix it on the ipad than it is just to leave it and assume a spelling nazi won't run across it(Had to edit this so you wouldn't have to fight the urge to correct my spelling)

 

[Phenix]

The collarbone is the only spot in the body where the shoulder connects to the body by joint. A re injury there would be catastrophic

It's not just playing through pain, although he has none. If he re breaks his collarbone now, he would be looking at potentially 6 months of recovery from a rebreak.

How is it catastrophic when he'll have 10 months to heal from a re-break?

RGIII had 10 months to heal. How's he looking?Rodgers would not be able to even run if he were recovering from and ORIF of the clavicle - open reduction internal fixation for those armchair MDs. You really think he'd be at the top of his game?

Furthermore, it would be catastrophic because it may not revascularize, which means it may not heal at all or heal very brittle which means future for re injury. Re breaking a bone, clavicle in particular, that isn't healed all the way is potentially career threatening to a QB. Even if it is the non throwing arm. QBs get hit a lot. Sure, chances aren't real good for that to happen, but how many of you are playing Russian roulette on a weekly basis thinking the chances of killing yourself is only 1/6?

You really seem to be full of yourself and your opinion.

Pot, meet kettleGrading your posts on this topic clearly don't make you an expert in the field.

I think you'd appreciate hearing from someone in the medical profession who knows this stuff very well. It might help you from some informed opinions moving forward.

Interesting, if doctors are always right why do they need malpractice insurance? Anyone can google the topic and put Dr. in front of their name and other football fans realize some play through injuries regardless of injury. Also you can pull a nose hair out of your nose and die, does that mean it will happen doctor?

I don't need to prove a thing to you. I am a doctor. I have my degree. Don't believe me, I really don't care. I'd trust the advise of a doctor over someone who compares a broken clavicle to a separated shoulder. If you want to insult me to try and make my medical expertise less valuable in your mind, make you feel better for being owned by medical evidence, fine by me.

Good luck these playoffs. You seem like you need the $

Do doctors typically spell words like advice incorrectly?

 

[Interseptopus]

When he got hurt I pegged him for week 14 at the absolute earliest. I am starting to think he just wont play at all the rest of the year if they lose this week (if he doesnt play week 14, which I put him at 50-50 at best)

I agree with this... If he doesn't play this week, they'll prob lose, at which point they are basically an extreme longshot - why would they put their franchise out there with nothing to play for fresh off of a broken collarbone?

Yup. Which is why deep down I think he playsI imagine they've had a bone stimulator on that thing 24/7, which can speed things up. Still a risk for week 14, but I think he plays because of how much this means to their season

If he sits this week, and they lose, I think they will just IR him even if he is cleared to play. As an overly cautious move.

Absolutely

 

[ghostguy123]

Crabtree has been practicing for 3 weeks but is just now going to play in a game

We likely won't know if he's playing until the Friday/Saturday before

Right. But in his case he is just probably out of shape (not in game shape), plus maybe he doesn't quite have his usual explosiveness back. At this point in his recovery they aren't worried about a re-injury.

For Rodgers, the ONLY worry is re-injury, which is pretty much certain to happen if he plays before he is 100% ready.

 

[ghostguy123]

Do doctors typically spell words like advice incorrectly?

Ever notice when people are wrong they point out gramatical errors instead of trying to continue the discussion?

And yes, doctors do mispell things all the time on accident, even on the medical records. So? I would rather have my doctor know what a collarbone actually is than to be free of typos or accidental keystrokes on a narrative.

 

[ghostguy123]

This just in...................Aaron Rodgers can jog on a treadmill at 6.5 MPH. He can also ride a bike.

He was also spotted putting his seatbelt on with his LEFT arm, and then an hour later with his RIGHT arm.

He also put his own shoes on. Loop swoop and pull.

These are "telling" signs.

 

[Interseptopus]

Crabtree has been practicing for 3 weeks but is just now going to play in a game

We likely won't know if he's playing until the Friday/Saturday before

Right. But in his case he is just probably out of shape (not in game shape), plus maybe he doesn't quite have his usual explosiveness back. At this point in his recovery they aren't worried about a re-injury.

For Rodgers, the ONLY worry is re-injury, which is pretty much certain to happen if he plays before he is 100% ready.

True. I was just pointing out that people practice and may not play for weeks.

There is no reason for Rodgers to not practice. Keep his arm fresh, keep in tune with the offense and the game plan. Because come Saturdays X-ray (or CT scan I would imagine, since this seems to be a small fracture and to determine the specific healing), that's when he will know if he is cleared to play in an nfl game.

As I pointed out earlier, 4-6 weeks the callus is still very weak. All depends on the severity and speed of healing he has had. It definitely won't be in the remodeling stage. since this takes about 3 months.

In fact, at some point he will be more likely to break the surrounding clavicle than he would be to rebreak the original fracture (the fracture site should be stronger)

 

[Interseptopus]

Do doctors typically spell words like advice incorrectly?

Ever notice when people are wrong they point out gramatical errors instead of trying to continue the discussion?

And yes, doctors do mispell things all the time on accident, even on the medical records. So? I would rather have my doctor know what a collarbone actually is than to be free of typos or accidental keystrokes on a narrative.

Oh man you should see my notes. I type so fast I often make mistakes. We just upgraded (actually downgraded) our electronic records program to combine with a larger hospital in se Wisconsin. We were on a better EPIC platform that would actually fix many of my misspelled words and abbreviations automatically. Not anymore... Still EPIC, but cheap EPICI should stick to dictating. Takes longer on the back end, but at least things are spelled correctly. God forbid Alex p Keaton is one of my patients and does a medical record request

 

[Interseptopus]

This just in...................Aaron Rodgers can jog on a treadmill at 6.5 MPH. He can also ride a bike.

He was also spotted putting his seatbelt on with his LEFT arm, and then an hour later with his RIGHT arm.

He also put his own shoes on. Loop swoop and pull.

These are "telling" signs.

I heard he poured his own milk this morning and flipped his own pancakes with his left arm

It's all falling into place now

 

[ghostguy123]

This just in...................Aaron Rodgers can jog on a treadmill at 6.5 MPH. He can also ride a bike.

He was also spotted putting his seatbelt on with his LEFT arm, and then an hour later with his RIGHT arm.

He also put his own shoes on. Loop swoop and pull.

These are "telling" signs.

I heard he poured his own milk this morning and flipped his own pancakes with his left arm

It's all falling into place now

wouldnt drinking milk be a BAD sign though?? It means he needs to make his bones stronger, because they arent strong enough to play. Rats

 

[ghostguy123]

Not to mention exercise (aka practice) increases bone density. This doesnt help a whole lot for the clavicle, but every little bit helps.

Ok, this has gone on enough, I apologize to many for wasting your time. Play time is over.

I concede, Rodgers will play when Phenix clears him based on rotoworld reports.

 

[John 14:6]

Actually I for one hope he heals to 100% rather than risking reinjury or worse. McCown has filled in for me with outstanding success. If I win this week I get a bye the 1st round so I rather him hold out till he feels, and the physicians feel, that he is ready.

I also have a first round bye, but I'm hoping he plays that week so we can see if he's back to form before starting him

You have to see if Aaron Rodgers is back to form before you play him?

It would be nice.

Maybe, but are you really gonna leave Rodgers on the bench if he is able to play?

Seems crazy.

Yeah,I might start rivers instead...

 

[LawFitz]

Oof. This thread has really become the suck. I regret trading for Rodgers mainly because it has me opening this steaming pile on a regular basis.

 

[ghostguy123]

Oof. This thread has really become the suck. I regret trading for Rodgers mainly because it has me opening this steaming pile on a regular basis.

sorry bout that.

But really, you won't get anything useful from this thread anyway. Even Rodger's doctor does not know exactly when he will be ready for NFL contact.

When he knows, it will come out, and we will all know pretty much right away. Until then, you can speculate all you want based on whatever the hell he does in practice, but you would just be wasting your time. He will play when he is cleared to take NFL hits without increased risk of breaking his clavicle again.

 

[Phenix]

Oof. This thread has really become the suck. I regret trading for Rodgers mainly because it has me opening this steaming pile on a regular basis.

sorry bout that.

But really, you won't get anything useful from this thread anyway. Even Rodger's doctor does not know exactly when he will be ready for NFL contact.

When he knows, it will come out, and we will all know pretty much right away. Until then, you can speculate all you want based on whatever the hell he does in practice, but you would just be wasting your time. He will play when he is cleared to take NFL hits without increased risk of breaking his clavicle again.

Ghostguy? really dude? You have spoken so it must be true? Get of your high horse like the doc, your opinion means nothing more than anyone elses... even if you are in the medical field because you are not Rodgers doctor and you are not fully aware of his condition.

Let people come in here and discuss, after all isnt that the point?

 

[ghostguy123]

Ghostguy? really dude? You have spoken so it must be true? Get of your high horse like the doc, your opinion means nothing more than anyone elses... even if you are in the medical field because you are not Rodgers doctor and you are not fully aware of his condition.

Let people come in here and discuss, after all isnt that the point?

I already said Rodger's doctor doesnt even know when he will play, so how the hell would I know???

Some things I do know though. FACT #1, he broke his collarbone. Fact #2, he can not play an NFL football game until his bone is healed and can withstand an NFL hit. Fact #3, his activities are currently whatever he wants them to be, meaning whatever pain he can tolerate (minus being hit). He can throw, run, jump, and even life weights of a moderate amount.

Fact #4, NONE of those activities have anything to do with getting smashed onto the ground.

It's not me being on a high horse. These are not opinions. Rodger's doesn't heal differently than other normal human beings just because he is a future hall of fame QB. A clavicle fracture is a clavicle fracture.

Or maybe my time spent in orthopedics made me dumber. Who knows.

He will play when the bone is healed, and a doctor who examines him and his xrays says it is healed to the point where it can withstand an NFL hit again. Case closed. That isn't an opinion.

If you want to discuss it, fine, that's cool. Your guess is as good as mine as to when he will play. But when you say that him practicing is "telling", what the hell is it telling you??? It doesn't tell anyone who knows anything about his injury ANYTHING about WHEN he is going to play in an NFL game.

 

[False Start]

Ghostguy? really dude? You have spoken so it must be true? Get of your high horse like the doc, your opinion means nothing more than anyone elses... even if you are in the medical field because you are not Rodgers doctor and you are not fully aware of his condition.

Let people come in here and discuss, after all isnt that the point?

I already said Rodger's doctor doesnt even know when he will play, so how the hell would I know???

Some things I do know though. FACT #1, he broke his collarbone. Fact #2, he can not play an NFL football game until his bone is healed and can withstand an NFL hit. Fact #3, his activities are currently whatever he wants them to be, meaning whatever pain he can tolerate (minus being hit). He can throw, run, jump, and even life weights of a moderate amount.

Fact #4, NONE of those activities have anything to do with getting smashed onto the ground.

It's not me being on a high horse. These are not opinions. Rodger's doesn't heal differently than other normal human beings just because he is a future hall of fame QB. A clavicle fracture is a clavicle fracture.

Or maybe my time spent in orthopedics made me dumber. Who knows.

He will play when the bone is healed, and a doctor who examines him and his xrays says it is healed to the point where it can withstand an NFL hit again. Case closed. That isn't an opinion.

Let it go guys no one knows anything including the self proclaimed doctors and over anxious Rodgers fans. Only thing certain is the testosterone is strong in this thread.

 

[ghostguy123]

Let it go guys no one knows anything including the self proclaimed doctors and over anxious Rodgers fans. Only thing certain is the testosterone is strong in this thread.

Let's put it this way. No one on here knows when he will play because we don't know exactly when his bone will be fully healed.

However, some of us actually KNOW things about this topic. For example, he will play when the bone is healed, not when he gets in a few full practices.

 

[swirvenirvin]

Now saying he will be lucky to play in week 14. And if he doesnt play in wk 14 and Packers are out of playoffs he will be shut down

 

[Interseptopus]

Ghostguy? really dude? You have spoken so it must be true? Get of your high horse like the doc, your opinion means nothing more than anyone elses... even if you are in the medical field because you are not Rodgers doctor and you are not fully aware of his condition.

Let people come in here and discuss, after all isnt that the point?

I already said Rodger's doctor doesnt even know when he will play, so how the hell would I know???

Some things I do know though. FACT #1, he broke his collarbone. Fact #2, he can not play an NFL football game until his bone is healed and can withstand an NFL hit. Fact #3, his activities are currently whatever he wants them to be, meaning whatever pain he can tolerate (minus being hit). He can throw, run, jump, and even life weights of a moderate amount.

Fact #4, NONE of those activities have anything to do with getting smashed onto the ground.

It's not me being on a high horse. These are not opinions. Rodger's doesn't heal differently than other normal human beings just because he is a future hall of fame QB. A clavicle fracture is a clavicle fracture.

Or maybe my time spent in orthopedics made me dumber. Who knows.

He will play when the bone is healed, and a doctor who examines him and his xrays says it is healed to the point where it can withstand an NFL hit again. Case closed. That isn't an opinion.

Let it go guys no one knows anything including the self proclaimed doctors and over anxious Rodgers fans. Only thing certain is the testosterone is strong in this thread.

self proclaimed

By the state of WI department of licensing and regulation

Isn't looking good for week 14. According to the armchair MDs, he should be fine and this is all on Rodgers and his lack of heart

 

[Interseptopus]

Ghostguy? really dude? You have spoken so it must be true? Get of your high horse like the doc, your opinion means nothing more than anyone elses... even if you are in the medical field because you are not Rodgers doctor and you are not fully aware of his condition.

Let people come in here and discuss, after all isnt that the point?

I already said Rodger's doctor doesnt even know when he will play, so how the hell would I know???

Some things I do know though. FACT #1, he broke his collarbone. Fact #2, he can not play an NFL football game until his bone is healed and can withstand an NFL hit. Fact #3, his activities are currently whatever he wants them to be, meaning whatever pain he can tolerate (minus being hit). He can throw, run, jump, and even life weights of a moderate amount.

Fact #4, NONE of those activities have anything to do with getting smashed onto the ground.

It's not me being on a high horse. These are not opinions. Rodger's doesn't heal differently than other normal human beings just because he is a future hall of fame QB. A clavicle fracture is a clavicle fracture.

Or maybe my time spent in orthopedics made me dumber. Who knows.

He will play when the bone is healed, and a doctor who examines him and his xrays says it is healed to the point where it can withstand an NFL hit again. Case closed. That isn't an opinion.

If you want to discuss it, fine, that's cool. Your guess is as good as mine as to when he will play. But when you say that him practicing is "telling", what the hell is it telling you??? It doesn't tell anyone who knows anything about his injury ANYTHING about WHEN he is going to play in an NFL game.

Careful ghost guy. Common sense and reason might just send people off the edge.Take your medical jargon elsewhere. This is fantasy football. Where anyone can be anyone and everyone's a medical doctor. And the real medical professionals are mocked for disagreeing with the fantasy medical professionals

 

[False Start]

Now saying he will be lucky to play in week 14. And if he doesnt play in wk 14 and Packers are out of playoffs he will be shut down

Losing last week was a big blow has nothing to do with a recovery at this point as he was eyeing week 14 all along. They do have a shot at the playoffs and not trying for it is a white flag by definition it is quitting and you have to question ones heart to give up. People play injured without fingers and with broken legs, so yes playing with injuries are part of the game risk of reinjury or not. Que the cocky Dr and his opinion about the clavicle and if Rodgers comes back he is certain to die on the field for all of us to see.

 

[False Start]

Ghostguy? really dude? You have spoken so it must be true? Get of your high horse like the doc, your opinion means nothing more than anyone elses... even if you are in the medical field because you are not Rodgers doctor and you are not fully aware of his condition.

Let people come in here and discuss, after all isnt that the point?

I already said Rodger's doctor doesnt even know when he will play, so how the hell would I know???

Some things I do know though. FACT #1, he broke his collarbone. Fact #2, he can not play an NFL football game until his bone is healed and can withstand an NFL hit. Fact #3, his activities are currently whatever he wants them to be, meaning whatever pain he can tolerate (minus being hit). He can throw, run, jump, and even life weights of a moderate amount.

Fact #4, NONE of those activities have anything to do with getting smashed onto the ground.

It's not me being on a high horse. These are not opinions. Rodger's doesn't heal differently than other normal human beings just because he is a future hall of fame QB. A clavicle fracture is a clavicle fracture.

Or maybe my time spent in orthopedics made me dumber. Who knows.

He will play when the bone is healed, and a doctor who examines him and his xrays says it is healed to the point where it can withstand an NFL hit again. Case closed. That isn't an opinion.

If you want to discuss it, fine, that's cool. Your guess is as good as mine as to when he will play. But when you say that him practicing is "telling", what the hell is it telling you??? It doesn't tell anyone who knows anything about his injury ANYTHING about WHEN he is going to play in an NFL game.

Careful ghost guy. Common sense and reason might just send people off the edge.Take your medical jargon elsewhere. This is fantasy football. Where anyone can be anyone and everyone's a medical doctor. And the real medical professionals are mocked for disagreeing with the fantasy medical professionals

You seem upset many do not value your medical expertise as a doctor who has never seen Rodgers and is talking in general without any knowledge of Rodgers evaluation, if you need validation please go elsewhere. I'm surprise the footballguy community has not roasted you yet. I have to be honest I feel for your patients if you are a real doctor.

 

[Interseptopus]

Now saying he will be lucky to play in week 14. And if he doesnt play in wk 14 and Packers are out of playoffs he will be shut down

Losing last week was a big blow has nothing to do with a recovery at this point as he was eyeing week 14 all along. They do have a shot at the playoffs and not trying for it is a white flag by definition it is quitting and you have to question ones heart to give up. People play injured without fingers and with broken legs, so yes playing with injuries are part of the game risk of reinjury or not. Que the cocky Dr and his opinion about the clavicle and if Rodgers comes back he is certain to die on the field for all of us to see.

But I thought he had no heart for not playing in week 13? If he was eyeing 14 all along, then there's no lack of heart. So why make your post earlier criticizing his heart for not playing week 13 Furthermore, I don't recall Rodgers ever stating what he was targeting. In fact, all along he's said that he has no timetable. Unless your personal friends with Rodgers now and he confided his target week with you

 

[Interseptopus]

Ghostguy? really dude? You have spoken so it must be true? Get of your high horse like the doc, your opinion means nothing more than anyone elses... even if you are in the medical field because you are not Rodgers doctor and you are not fully aware of his condition.

Let people come in here and discuss, after all isnt that the point?

I already said Rodger's doctor doesnt even know when he will play, so how the hell would I know???

Some things I do know though. FACT #1, he broke his collarbone. Fact #2, he can not play an NFL football game until his bone is healed and can withstand an NFL hit. Fact #3, his activities are currently whatever he wants them to be, meaning whatever pain he can tolerate (minus being hit). He can throw, run, jump, and even life weights of a moderate amount.

Fact #4, NONE of those activities have anything to do with getting smashed onto the ground.

It's not me being on a high horse. These are not opinions. Rodger's doesn't heal differently than other normal human beings just because he is a future hall of fame QB. A clavicle fracture is a clavicle fracture.

Or maybe my time spent in orthopedics made me dumber. Who knows.

He will play when the bone is healed, and a doctor who examines him and his xrays says it is healed to the point where it can withstand an NFL hit again. Case closed. That isn't an opinion.

If you want to discuss it, fine, that's cool. Your guess is as good as mine as to when he will play. But when you say that him practicing is "telling", what the hell is it telling you??? It doesn't tell anyone who knows anything about his injury ANYTHING about WHEN he is going to play in an NFL game.

Careful ghost guy. Common sense and reason might just send people off the edge.Take your medical jargon elsewhere. This is fantasy football. Where anyone can be anyone and everyone's a medical doctor. And the real medical professionals are mocked for disagreeing with the fantasy medical professionals

You seem upset many do not value your medical expertise as a doctor who has never seen Rodgers and is talking in general without any knowledge of Rodgers evaluation, if you need validation please go elsewhere. I'm surprise the footballguy community has not roasted you yet. I have to be honest I feel for your patients if you are a real doctor.

Not upset at all, just warning ghost for trying to reason with individuals who are on the left side of the bell curveI stand by that I would take the word of a medical professional who knows something about this type of stuff over someone who just stayed in a holiday inn express last night and questions his heart.

I've never claimed to have examined him. I've never even made a statement about how far I think he is healed.

All I've done is refute things that you've said, with medical evidence. You continue to come at me and respond to my posts. You mad bro?

 

[Phenix]

Ghostguy? really dude? You have spoken so it must be true? Get of your high horse like the doc, your opinion means nothing more than anyone elses... even if you are in the medical field because you are not Rodgers doctor and you are not fully aware of his condition.

Let people come in here and discuss, after all isnt that the point?

I already said Rodger's doctor doesnt even know when he will play, so how the hell would I know???

Some things I do know though. FACT #1, he broke his collarbone. Fact #2, he can not play an NFL football game until his bone is healed and can withstand an NFL hit. Fact #3, his activities are currently whatever he wants them to be, meaning whatever pain he can tolerate (minus being hit). He can throw, run, jump, and even life weights of a moderate amount.

Fact #4, NONE of those activities have anything to do with getting smashed onto the ground.

It's not me being on a high horse. These are not opinions. Rodger's doesn't heal differently than other normal human beings just because he is a future hall of fame QB. A clavicle fracture is a clavicle fracture.

Or maybe my time spent in orthopedics made me dumber. Who knows.

He will play when the bone is healed, and a doctor who examines him and his xrays says it is healed to the point where it can withstand an NFL hit again. Case closed. That isn't an opinion.

If you want to discuss it, fine, that's cool. Your guess is as good as mine as to when he will play. But when you say that him practicing is "telling", what the hell is it telling you??? It doesn't tell anyone who knows anything about his injury ANYTHING about WHEN he is going to play in an NFL game.

Careful ghost guy. Common sense and reason might just send people off the edge.Take your medical jargon elsewhere. This is fantasy football. Where anyone can be anyone and everyone's a medical doctor. And the real medical professionals are mocked for disagreeing with the fantasy medical professionals

You seem upset many do not value your medical expertise as a doctor who has never seen Rodgers and is talking in general without any knowledge of Rodgers evaluation, if you need validation please go elsewhere. I'm surprise the footballguy community has not roasted you yet. I have to be honest I feel for your patients if you are a real doctor.

Not upset at all, just warning ghost for trying to reason with individuals who are on the left side of the bell curve

Nice... good to see the Doc making more friends.

Real information for those who want it...

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Aaron Rodgers (collarbone) has been eyeing a Week 14 return all along, but "he'd be lucky" to play next Sunday.

The 5-6-1 Packers' season is just about over. They have little hope for the playoffs, and Rapoport adds that the team is considering shutting Rodgers down for the rest of the year, especially since their playoff hopes are shot. The combination of Matt Flynn and Scott Tolzien has "led" the Packers to three consecutive losses, while Flynn looked completely incapable of running an NFL offense Thursday against the Lions. If Rodgers can't return, it will be a huge blow to Jordy Nelson, Eddie Lacy, and the rest of Green Bay's skill position players' fantasy stocks. Rodgers is throwing without pain, but there's still a real possibility the bone isn't healed and could be dislodged, creating a career-threatening injury. We'll know more this upcoming practice week.

 

[Phenix]

Now saying he will be lucky to play in week 14. And if he doesnt play in wk 14 and Packers are out of playoffs he will be shut down

I'm still going with my gut and say he plays.

Hoping is more like it.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Whole lot of d-baggery in this thread.

 

[Interseptopus]

Some real news to this thread: NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports "he'd be lucky" to play next Sunday.

Looking more and more like he will be IRed

 

[towney]

Will it be Flynn or Tolzien if Rogers is shut down. Got to think the Packers turn back to Tolizien.

 

[Interseptopus]

Will it be Flynn or Tolzien if Rogers is shut down. Got to think the Packers turn back to Tolizien.

I have no information to back this up with, but I think Flynn. I think if McCarthy goes back to Tolzien he looks like he can't make up his mind.

If Rodgers doesn't play, they likely lose, then you might as well shut Rodgers down. So you need a " for better or for worse" starting QB. Can't keep switching them. Also, if he goes with Tolzien and he falters, does he go back to Flynn mid game? If he stays with Flynn and he falters, at least he can go to Tolzien and not look too much like a man who can't make up his mind.

I hope they go with Tolzien, but I think they will go to Flynn

 

[Insein]

Ghostguy? really dude? You have spoken so it must be true? Get of your high horse like the doc, your opinion means nothing more than anyone elses... even if you are in the medical field because you are not Rodgers doctor and you are not fully aware of his condition.

Let people come in here and discuss, after all isnt that the point?

I already said Rodger's doctor doesnt even know when he will play, so how the hell would I know???

Some things I do know though. FACT #1, he broke his collarbone. Fact #2, he can not play an NFL football game until his bone is healed and can withstand an NFL hit. Fact #3, his activities are currently whatever he wants them to be, meaning whatever pain he can tolerate (minus being hit). He can throw, run, jump, and even life weights of a moderate amount.

Fact #4, NONE of those activities have anything to do with getting smashed onto the ground.

It's not me being on a high horse. These are not opinions. Rodger's doesn't heal differently than other normal human beings just because he is a future hall of fame QB. A clavicle fracture is a clavicle fracture.

Or maybe my time spent in orthopedics made me dumber. Who knows.

He will play when the bone is healed, and a doctor who examines him and his xrays says it is healed to the point where it can withstand an NFL hit again. Case closed. That isn't an opinion.

If you want to discuss it, fine, that's cool. Your guess is as good as mine as to when he will play. But when you say that him practicing is "telling", what the hell is it telling you??? It doesn't tell anyone who knows anything about his injury ANYTHING about WHEN he is going to play in an NFL game.

Careful ghost guy. Common sense and reason might just send people off the edge.Take your medical jargon elsewhere. This is fantasy football. Where anyone can be anyone and everyone's a medical doctor. And the real medical professionals are mocked for disagreeing with the fantasy medical professionals

You seem upset many do not value your medical expertise as a doctor who has never seen Rodgers and is talking in general without any knowledge of Rodgers evaluation, if you need validation please go elsewhere. I'm surprise the footballguy community has not roasted you yet. I have to be honest I feel for your patients if you are a real doctor.

I think most of the FBG community recognizes you and phenix as tools of the lowest calibur.

 

[sho nuff]

Will it be Flynn or Tolzien if Rogers is shut down. Got to think the Packers turn back to Tolizien.

IMO, has to be Tolzien.

See what you have in him the rest of the year. Flynn is done in GB...or should be after this year.

Tolzien might be their backup of the future...have to get an idea of what all he can do and give him more responsibility in the offense.

 

[Interseptopus]

Will it be Flynn or Tolzien if Rogers is shut down. Got to think the Packers turn back to Tolizien.

IMO, has to be Tolzien.

See what you have in him the rest of the year. Flynn is done in GB...or should be after this year.

Tolzien might be their backup of the future...have to get an idea of what all he can do and give him more responsibility in the offense.

My thoughts exactly for why it should be Tolzien, but I just feel like McCarthy gives Flynn one more half of football to make his case, unfortunately

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Ghostguy? really dude? You have spoken so it must be true? Get of your high horse like the doc, your opinion means nothing more than anyone elses... even if you are in the medical field because you are not Rodgers doctor and you are not fully aware of his condition.

Let people come in here and discuss, after all isnt that the point?

I already said Rodger's doctor doesnt even know when he will play, so how the hell would I know???

Some things I do know though. FACT #1, he broke his collarbone. Fact #2, he can not play an NFL football game until his bone is healed and can withstand an NFL hit. Fact #3, his activities are currently whatever he wants them to be, meaning whatever pain he can tolerate (minus being hit). He can throw, run, jump, and even life weights of a moderate amount.

Fact #4, NONE of those activities have anything to do with getting smashed onto the ground.

It's not me being on a high horse. These are not opinions. Rodger's doesn't heal differently than other normal human beings just because he is a future hall of fame QB. A clavicle fracture is a clavicle fracture.

Or maybe my time spent in orthopedics made me dumber. Who knows.

He will play when the bone is healed, and a doctor who examines him and his xrays says it is healed to the point where it can withstand an NFL hit again. Case closed. That isn't an opinion.

If you want to discuss it, fine, that's cool. Your guess is as good as mine as to when he will play. But when you say that him practicing is "telling", what the hell is it telling you??? It doesn't tell anyone who knows anything about his injury ANYTHING about WHEN he is going to play in an NFL game.

Careful ghost guy. Common sense and reason might just send people off the edge.Take your medical jargon elsewhere. This is fantasy football. Where anyone can be anyone and everyone's a medical doctor. And the real medical professionals are mocked for disagreeing with the fantasy medical professionals

You seem upset many do not value your medical expertise as a doctor who has never seen Rodgers and is talking in general without any knowledge of Rodgers evaluation, if you need validation please go elsewhere. I'm surprise the footballguy community has not roasted you yet. I have to be honest I feel for your patients if you are a real doctor.

I think most of the FBG community recognizes you and phenix as tools of the lowest calibur.

they are the same guy, ROFL

 

[Interseptopus]

they are the same guy, ROFL

Never realized that. Makes sense, a lot of sense

 

[Statorama]

Looking less likely with each passing day that Rodgers plays again this season

 

[Phenix]

they are the same guy, ROFL

Never realized that. Makes sense, a lot of sense

LOL, My cousin thinks I'm everyone when I agree with them.

 

[Phenix]

Looking less likely with each passing day that Rodgers plays again this season

Have to agree but my gut is still holding out hope.

That or I ate a lot at Thanksgiving.

 

[Milkman]

I told you guys. He's done this year.

 

[rjv]

I told you guys. He's done this year.

Thank you for your infinite wisdom

 

[Interseptopus]

I told you guys. He's done this year.

I kind of figured when he hurt it, but I had thought week 14 at the earliest.The way the last few games have worked out, he's done. If GB beat Chicago and Minnesota, I think he'd come back, but since that's not the case, I would be shocked.

Sucks as a packer fan. Couldn't care less as someone who traded for Rodgers for a playoff boost. I should be good without him

 

[Phenix]

I told you guys. He's done this year.

Thank you for your infinite wisdom

Hope, there is still hope!

 

[Milkman]

I told you guys. He's done this year.

Thank you for your infinite wisdom

Take it like a man homie.

 

[Phenix]

I told you guys. He's done this year.

Thank you for your infinite wisdom

Take it like a man homie.

Most Rodgers owners are going to have no choice but take it like a man.

 

[ghostguy123]

they are the same guy, ROFL

Never realized that. Makes sense, a lot of sense

It's like they intentionally post the complete opposite of common sense and truth on purpose..............which really on here isn't surprising.

Well, common sense for people who actually have knowledge of what his injury is.

No heart, lol. If you actually think that, how have you made it this far in life without lighting a match to check a gas leak, walked onto a subway track to pick up a shiny penny, or pressed the giant red button that says "do not press giant red button".

 

[cstu]

I told you guys. He's done this year.

I kind of figured when he hurt it, but I had thought week 14 at the earliest.The way the last few games have worked out, he's done. If GB beat Chicago and Minnesota, I think he'd come back, but since that's not the case, I would be shocked.

Sucks as a packer fan. Couldn't care less as someone who traded for Rodgers for a playoff boost. I should be good without him

Packers aren't officially going to shut him down until they've been eliminated, which they will be if they lose another game. If they beat the Falcons without him they will see if he can play against the Cowboys.

 

[ghostguy123]

Right. Wouldn't make much sense to IR him until they are mathematically out of it.

 

[Interseptopus]

I told you guys. He's done this year.

I kind of figured when he hurt it, but I had thought week 14 at the earliest.The way the last few games have worked out, he's done. If GB beat Chicago and Minnesota, I think he'd come back, but since that's not the case, I would be shocked.Sucks as a packer fan. Couldn't care less as someone who traded for Rodgers for a playoff boost. I should be good without him

Packers aren't officially going to shut him down until they've been eliminated, which they will be if they lose another game. If they beat the Falcons without him they will see if he can play against the Cowboys.

Yup. I fully expect them to lose next week

 

[LargeMouthBass]

All GB had to do was win 1 out 3 and they couldn't even do that. If GB's virtually out of the playoffs, no need for him to return. I would hate for him to get injured where his career is over. Rest up for the next season.