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**** Official Aaron Rodgers injury thread ***** (1 Viewer)

All GB had to do was win 1 out 3 and they couldn't even do that. If GB's virtually out of the playoffs, no need for him to return. I would hate for him to get injured where his career is over. Rest up for the next season.
Well, I am of the belief that even if they were in the playoff hunt and had won a couple of their recent games, that he still would not play until he is 100% with no increased risk of a re-break of that bone.

Unfortunately, we are not privy to the severity of the break, the xrays, or the exams he goes through.

But really regardless of their playoff standing, this isn't an injury you "tough out". It's almost a certainty any moderate hit would re-break the bone if not fully healed.

This is just one of the few injuries you can not play through unless you are fully healed. ANd if you do, you are asking for disaster.

 
All GB had to do was win 1 out 3 and they couldn't even do that. If GB's virtually out of the playoffs, no need for him to return. I would hate for him to get injured where his career is over. Rest up for the next season.
Well, I am of the belief that even if they were in the playoff hunt and had won a couple of their recent games, that he still would not play until he is 100% with no increased risk of a re-break of that bone.

Unfortunately, we are not privy to the severity of the break, the xrays, or the exams he goes through.

But really regardless of their playoff standing, this isn't an injury you "tough out". It's almost a certainty any moderate hit would re-break the bone if not fully healed.

This is just one of the few injuries you can not play through unless you are fully healed. ANd if you do, you are asking for disaster.
Oh my God you'd think we were talking about a spinal cord injury. It's his freaking collar bone - on his non throwing side no less!You know, I keep hearing about what an MVP this guy is. Let's see how valuable he is and how much he really cares about his team winning. The season is on the line and you've got about 10 months of rest coming up. Sack it up and get out there next week. Jeebus.

 
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All GB had to do was win 1 out 3 and they couldn't even do that. If GB's virtually out of the playoffs, no need for him to return. I would hate for him to get injured where his career is over. Rest up for the next season.
Well, I am of the belief that even if they were in the playoff hunt and had won a couple of their recent games, that he still would not play until he is 100% with no increased risk of a re-break of that bone.

Unfortunately, we are not privy to the severity of the break, the xrays, or the exams he goes through.

But really regardless of their playoff standing, this isn't an injury you "tough out". It's almost a certainty any moderate hit would re-break the bone if not fully healed.

This is just one of the few injuries you can not play through unless you are fully healed. ANd if you do, you are asking for disaster.
Oh my God you'd think we were talking about a spinal cord injury. It's his freaking collar bone - on his non throwing side no less!You know, I keep hearing about what an MVP this guy is. Let's see how valuable he is and how much he really cares about his team winning. The season is on the line and you've got about 10 months of rest coming up. Sack it up and get out there next week. Jeebus.
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.

 
All GB had to do was win 1 out 3 and they couldn't even do that. If GB's virtually out of the playoffs, no need for him to return. I would hate for him to get injured where his career is over. Rest up for the next season.
Well, I am of the belief that even if they were in the playoff hunt and had won a couple of their recent games, that he still would not play until he is 100% with no increased risk of a re-break of that bone.

Unfortunately, we are not privy to the severity of the break, the xrays, or the exams he goes through.

But really regardless of their playoff standing, this isn't an injury you "tough out". It's almost a certainty any moderate hit would re-break the bone if not fully healed.

This is just one of the few injuries you can not play through unless you are fully healed. ANd if you do, you are asking for disaster.
Oh my God you'd think we were talking about a spinal cord injury. It's his freaking collar bone - on his non throwing side no less!You know, I keep hearing about what an MVP this guy is. Let's see how valuable he is and how much he really cares about his team winning. The season is on the line and you've got about 10 months of rest coming up. Sack it up and get out there next week. Jeebus.
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
Dude, this is the NFL. There's a possible career ending injury on just about every play for someone on the field. Sorry, but rebreaking a collar bone and having it end a career is very very hard to conceive. And yes, I've read all the medical info. The medicals will always point to the most dire of circumstances. And it will have been a full 4 weeks on what was described as a very simple, straight fracture.
 
All GB had to do was win 1 out 3 and they couldn't even do that. If GB's virtually out of the playoffs, no need for him to return. I would hate for him to get injured where his career is over. Rest up for the next season.
Well, I am of the belief that even if they were in the playoff hunt and had won a couple of their recent games, that he still would not play until he is 100% with no increased risk of a re-break of that bone.

Unfortunately, we are not privy to the severity of the break, the xrays, or the exams he goes through.

But really regardless of their playoff standing, this isn't an injury you "tough out". It's almost a certainty any moderate hit would re-break the bone if not fully healed.

This is just one of the few injuries you can not play through unless you are fully healed. ANd if you do, you are asking for disaster.
Oh my God you'd think we were talking about a spinal cord injury. It's his freaking collar bone - on his non throwing side no less!You know, I keep hearing about what an MVP this guy is. Let's see how valuable he is and how much he really cares about his team winning. The season is on the line and you've got about 10 months of rest coming up. Sack it up and get out there next week. Jeebus.
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
Dude, this is the NFL. There's a possible career ending injury on just about every play for someone on the field. Sorry, but rebreaking a collar bone and having it end a career is very very hard to conceive. And yes, I've read all the medical info. The medicals will always point to the most dire of circumstances. And it will have been a full 4 weeks on what was described as a very simple, straight fracture.
Questioning Rodger's toughness or heart over this is way off base. You don't mess with the risk of rebreaking your collar bone. This is not a tough it out injury. Not even close. As soon as I heard he broke his collar bone I knew that 4-6 weeks was way optimistic and probably not possible. I'm not a doctor. Don't need to be. I think what maybe some people don't realize is that 1) no way is he moving normally at this point, putting him at far greater risk of taking hard hits, and 2) if he took a hard hit or two he would probably rebreak his collar bone.

Edit to add: I don't believe for a second that Rodger's would do any better than Flynn would right now. No way he can perform at a normal level.

 
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Dude, this is the NFL. There's a possible career ending injury on just about every play for someone on the field. Sorry, but rebreaking a collar bone and having it end a career is very very hard to conceive. And yes, I've read all the medical info. The medicals will always point to the most dire of circumstances. And it will have been a full 4 weeks on what was described as a very simple, straight fracture.
Yeah, but in his case all that has to happen is a simple tackle and he is out with a re-break. Sounds brilliant. I say he tightens up his jock strap and guts it out.

Does 9-6-1 even get them into the playoffs?

And it isn't even really about ending his career so much as it is about altering it. Not to mention, what's the point of giving him all the reps in practice when he is just going to get busted up the first time he gets tackled or hit?

You don't play football in the NFL with a broken collarbone until it is healed. Guess what, amazingly, the packer's organization realizes this................but hey, if the the select few in the general population think he should gut it out, by golly............he should gut it out

 
Dude, this is the NFL. There's a possible career ending injury on just about every play for someone on the field. Sorry, but rebreaking a collar bone and having it end a career is very very hard to conceive. And yes, I've read all the medical info. The medicals will always point to the most dire of circumstances. And it will have been a full 4 weeks on what was described as a very simple, straight fracture.
Yeah, but in his case all that has to happen is a simple tackle and he is out with a re-break. Sounds brilliant. I say he tightens up his jock strap and guts it out.

Does 9-6-1 even get them into the playoffs?

And it isn't even really about ending his career so much as it is about altering it. Not to mention, what's the point of giving him all the reps in practice when he is just going to get busted up the first time he gets tackled or hit?

You don't play football in the NFL with a broken collarbone until it is healed. Guess what, amazingly, the packer's organization realizes this................but hey, if the the select few in the general population think he should gut it out, by golly............he should gut it out
You have to understand where he's coming from though. He wasn't able to get an adequate backup for his fantasy team when he went down. Surely Aaron realizes this hardship he's placing on so many people in the country. He needs to do the right thing for all of us and play through it.

 
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Dude, this is the NFL. There's a possible career ending injury on just about every play for someone on the field. Sorry, but rebreaking a collar bone and having it end a career is very very hard to conceive. And yes, I've read all the medical info. The medicals will always point to the most dire of circumstances. And it will have been a full 4 weeks on what was described as a very simple, straight fracture.
Yeah, but in his case all that has to happen is a simple tackle and he is out with a re-break. Sounds brilliant. I say he tightens up his jock strap and guts it out.

Does 9-6-1 even get them into the playoffs?

And it isn't even really about ending his career so much as it is about altering it. Not to mention, what's the point of giving him all the reps in practice when he is just going to get busted up the first time he gets tackled or hit?

You don't play football in the NFL with a broken collarbone until it is healed. Guess what, amazingly, the packer's organization realizes this................but hey, if the the select few in the general population think he should gut it out, by golly............he should gut it out
Yes, if the Lions lose 2 games.

 
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
If the collarbone breaks it will be where it broke before since that's the weakest point. I'm not saying that Rodgers should absolutely return but this fear of a career ending injury is extremely overblown.

 
I keep seeing people saying that they should just hold him out for the rest of the season even if he can play. Why would anyone think that? Green Bay is only 1.5 games out of first place with 4 to go. Detroit is far from a lock to win 3 of their last 4, this is still a very wide open division.

 
I keep seeing people saying that they should just hold him out for the rest of the season even if he can play. Why would anyone think that? Green Bay is only 1.5 games out of first place with 4 to go. Detroit is far from a lock to win 3 of their last 4, this is still a very wide open division.
This is a very good post. I can understand a concerned fan expressing reservations of Rodgers coming back too soon. But we've got losers in here saying that even if he doesn't come back next week (14) then he should shut it down and not come back for the last 3 games because Green Bay will be out of it. Well, if the guy is cleared to play with 5 weeks of rest then saying he should shut it down with 3 games left is tantamount to tanking. I mean, really - the Texans have been out of it for about 5 weeks now but they are still playing the games.I don't know, the more I hear from Rodgers supporters and Green Bay fans the more I am losing respect for both. The whole "frozen tundra" image is being replaced by a lot of lame excuses and twisted sense of entitlement. News flash - Aaron Rodgers hasn't done enough yet to rest on his laurels. He is nowhere near the Brady, Manning, Brees echelon.

 
I keep seeing people saying that they should just hold him out for the rest of the season even if he can play. Why would anyone think that? Green Bay is only 1.5 games out of first place with 4 to go. Detroit is far from a lock to win 3 of their last 4, this is still a very wide open division.
This is a very good post. I can understand a concerned fan expressing reservations of Rodgers coming back too soon. But we've got losers in here saying that even if he doesn't come back next week (14) then he should shut it down and not come back for the last 3 games because Green Bay will be out of it. Well, if the guy is cleared to play with 5 weeks of rest then saying he should shut it down with 3 games left is tantamount to tanking. I mean, really - the Texans have been out of it for about 5 weeks now but they are still playing the games.I don't know, the more I hear from Rodgers supporters and Green Bay fans the more I am losing respect for both. The whole "frozen tundra" image is being replaced by a lot of lame excuses and twisted sense of entitlement. News flash - Aaron Rodgers hasn't done enough yet to rest on his laurels. He is nowhere near the Brady, Manning, Brees echelon.
It's a collarbone, they can always claim it's not healed "100%".

 
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
If the collarbone breaks it will be where it broke before since that's the weakest point. I'm not saying that Rodgers should absolutely return but this fear of a career ending injury is extremely overblown.
I agree it is a VERY VERY long longshot for that.

However, the chances of a re-break, if not healed.......................well, they are quite high

 
I keep seeing people saying that they should just hold him out for the rest of the season even if he can play. Why would anyone think that? Green Bay is only 1.5 games out of first place with 4 to go. Detroit is far from a lock to win 3 of their last 4, this is still a very wide open division.
I agree. They should only hold him out if they are mathematically eliminated.

If they are still alive at all, and he is cleared, I would bet my life he plays

 
I keep seeing people saying that they should just hold him out for the rest of the season even if he can play. Why would anyone think that? Green Bay is only 1.5 games out of first place with 4 to go. Detroit is far from a lock to win 3 of their last 4, this is still a very wide open division.
This is a very good post. I can understand a concerned fan expressing reservations of Rodgers coming back too soon. But we've got losers in here saying that even if he doesn't come back next week (14) then he should shut it down and not come back for the last 3 games because Green Bay will be out of it. Well, if the guy is cleared to play with 5 weeks of rest then saying he should shut it down with 3 games left is tantamount to tanking. I mean, really - the Texans have been out of it for about 5 weeks now but they are still playing the games.I don't know, the more I hear from Rodgers supporters and Green Bay fans the more I am losing respect for both. The whole "frozen tundra" image is being replaced by a lot of lame excuses and twisted sense of entitlement. News flash - Aaron Rodgers hasn't done enough yet to rest on his laurels. He is nowhere near the Brady, Manning, Brees echelon.
Not sure he will be fully healed is the thing.

I think if they are in it and he comes back next week, there are still risks.

Why not let him rest it out...figure out if Tolzien is the starter for the future?

Whats the point in putting him out there not 100% if they can't make the playoffs. That seems to be the concern.

But oh no...General Tso and his chicken are losing respect for Rodgers for things people are speculating and losing respect for fans who would rather see him 100% healthy next year rather than go out there in games when they have zero shot at the playoffs.

 
I keep seeing people saying that they should just hold him out for the rest of the season even if he can play. Why would anyone think that? Green Bay is only 1.5 games out of first place with 4 to go. Detroit is far from a lock to win 3 of their last 4, this is still a very wide open division.
This is a very good post. I can understand a concerned fan expressing reservations of Rodgers coming back too soon. But we've got losers in here saying that even if he doesn't come back next week (14) then he should shut it down and not come back for the last 3 games because Green Bay will be out of it. Well, if the guy is cleared to play with 5 weeks of rest then saying he should shut it down with 3 games left is tantamount to tanking. I mean, really - the Texans have been out of it for about 5 weeks now but they are still playing the games.I don't know, the more I hear from Rodgers supporters and Green Bay fans the more I am losing respect for both. The whole "frozen tundra" image is being replaced by a lot of lame excuses and twisted sense of entitlement. News flash - Aaron Rodgers hasn't done enough yet to rest on his laurels. He is nowhere near the Brady, Manning, Brees echelon.
Not sure he will be fully healed is the thing.

I think if they are in it and he comes back next week, there are still risks.

Why not let him rest it out...figure out if Tolzien is the starter for the future?

Whats the point in putting him out there not 100% if they can't make the playoffs. That seems to be the concern.

But oh no...General Tso and his chicken are losing respect for Rodgers for things people are speculating and losing respect for fans who would rather see him 100% healthy next year rather than go out there in games when they have zero shot at the playoffs.
They do have a shot at the playoffs, why does everyone keep missing that or is that of zero importance?

 
Too late for me. My Aaron Rodgers led team started out 8-0, is now officially dead after 5 straight losses.

Rest up Aaron. Not worth coming back now.

 
The Packers will probably need to win a game without Rodgers if he is going to come back this season. I'm just guessing he won't be ready for Atlanta. I do believe the Packers can beat Atlanta without Rodgers. If they win that game then maybe he returns. If they lose that game and the Lions win next week they will probably shut him down. 2.5 games back with 3 to play is too much of a long shot to risk re-breaking his collar bone. The bottom line is there could be complications if he re-breaks it and Rodgers is the Packer's most important investment. They have a long view to worry about here. Let's not kid ourselves about Detroit losing out and the Packers winning out under the above scenario.

 
WORST.THREAD.EVER.

Luckily, this is pretty much judgement week, so this will all be put to bed shortly.
I have a feeling it will be an "almost" and then next week. Luckily for most (other than me probably), Thursday's game doesnt provide much resistance unless you are in the unenviable position of having Keenum or Henne as your backup (in 2QB leagues, definitely a possibility).

I don't think we will have insight by Thursday's game, so some folks will have to decide whether to take the sure thing with a much lesser option, or take a chance for Rodgers upside without knowing that he will start.

 
General Tso said:
ghostguy123 said:
General Tso said:
ghostguy123 said:
LargeMouthBass said:
All GB had to do was win 1 out 3 and they couldn't even do that. If GB's virtually out of the playoffs, no need for him to return. I would hate for him to get injured where his career is over. Rest up for the next season.
Well, I am of the belief that even if they were in the playoff hunt and had won a couple of their recent games, that he still would not play until he is 100% with no increased risk of a re-break of that bone.

Unfortunately, we are not privy to the severity of the break, the xrays, or the exams he goes through.

But really regardless of their playoff standing, this isn't an injury you "tough out". It's almost a certainty any moderate hit would re-break the bone if not fully healed.

This is just one of the few injuries you can not play through unless you are fully healed. ANd if you do, you are asking for disaster.
Oh my God you'd think we were talking about a spinal cord injury. It's his freaking collar bone - on his non throwing side no less!You know, I keep hearing about what an MVP this guy is. Let's see how valuable he is and how much he really cares about his team winning. The season is on the line and you've got about 10 months of rest coming up. Sack it up and get out there next week. Jeebus.
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
Dude, this is the NFL. There's a possible career ending injury on just about every play for someone on the field. Sorry, but rebreaking a collar bone and having it end a career is very very hard to conceive. And yes, I've read all the medical info. The medicals will always point to the most dire of circumstances. And it will have been a full 4 weeks on what was described as a very simple, straight fracture.
I am a Packer fan and this is what I think too. He needs to get his butt back out there. My Vikings buddies have always referred to him as 'Erin' and it is starting to look as if they might be right. If he is not playing this week, I will forever think of him as 'Erin'.

 
http://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-edge-newspaper-2012/jun-29b.html

Seems some of you don't know how to do a simple Google search. Broken collar bones take 6-16 weeks to fully heal in adults. 4 weeks? That is crazy talk.
I prefer the screams of couch potatoes calling him "Erin" without any (apparent) understanding of the injury itself and the associated risks... comparing it to injuries like a separated shoulder, ala Emmitt Smith and questioning this guys heart because he has yet to enter the sweet spot of when this thing will heal. Lotta brave keyboard strokers out there.

 
ghostguy123 said:
cstu said:
ghostguy123 said:
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
If the collarbone breaks it will be where it broke before since that's the weakest point. I'm not saying that Rodgers should absolutely return but this fear of a career ending injury is extremely overblown.
I agree it is a VERY VERY long longshot for that.

However, the chances of a re-break, if not healed.......................well, they are quite high
The chances are very high, but the Packers have legitimate shot at making the Super Bowl if they can slip into the playoffs.

 
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ghostguy123 said:
cstu said:
ghostguy123 said:
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
If the collarbone breaks it will be where it broke before since that's the weakest point. I'm not saying that Rodgers should absolutely return but this fear of a career ending injury is extremely overblown.
I agree it is a VERY VERY long longshot for that.

However, the chances of a re-break, if not healed.......................well, they are quite high
The chances are very high, but the Packers have legitimate shot at making the Super Bowl if they can slip into the playoffs.
No they don't. That defense is awful. Rodgers would not only have to come back, he'd have to come back and ne better than he's ever been to make up for their porous defense.

 
Dude...you are talking to a seasoned tri-athlete, I eschew couches for 15 mile runs and I kick stray kittens. I am tough, dammit!!!! If I want to call the guy 'Erin' that is what I am calling him.

BTW, what is the ####o-clinic time table for a broken finger? That is what Dez was playing with at the end of last year...what is the timetable for a herniated disk? I am pretty sure he has that now.

Maybe the reason the Pack rolled over and gave up last Thursday is because the fish rots from head down. Why should anyone play hard if the head cheese is babying himself through a tough bwoken cowerbone?

Poor Erin!!!!

 
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ghostguy123 said:
cstu said:
ghostguy123 said:
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
If the collarbone breaks it will be where it broke before since that's the weakest point. I'm not saying that Rodgers should absolutely return but this fear of a career ending injury is extremely overblown.
I agree it is a VERY VERY long longshot for that.

However, the chances of a re-break, if not healed.......................well, they are quite high
The chances are very high, but the Packers have legitimate shot at making the Super Bowl if they can slip into the playoffs.
With that defense I highly doubt it.
 
ghostguy123 said:
cstu said:
ghostguy123 said:
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
If the collarbone breaks it will be where it broke before since that's the weakest point. I'm not saying that Rodgers should absolutely return but this fear of a career ending injury is extremely overblown.
I agree it is a VERY VERY long longshot for that.

However, the chances of a re-break, if not healed.......................well, they are quite high
The chances are very high, but the Packers have legitimate shot at making the Super Bowl if they can slip into the playoffs.
With that defense I highly doubt it.
The Saints, Seahawks and Panthers would be clear favorites over them but you never know what can happen in the playoffs.

 
Rotoworld:

The Packers have delayed coach Mike McCarthy's press conference from 4:45pm Monday to 3:15pm Tuesday.

We strongly suspect the postponement has something to do with the status of Aaron Rodgers' collarbone. Either the results of the latest tests aren't in yet, or they've been revealed and the Packers are deciding how to play their hand. Rodgers has repeatedly said he fully expects to play, but the franchise and doctors will want to take a conservative approach with playoff hopes waning. We might not have a real answer on this until McCarthy talks on Tuesday.


Source: Paul Imig on Twitter
 
The Packers defense gave up because Erin quit on the team.

Erin lied, the Packers died.
I agree, I think that A-Rod's failure to photobomb the Team Captain picture before the game really demoralizes the team. They're used to getting angry at his annoying, me-first, I-know better-than-the-coach attitude, which inspires them to show him up and put him in his place. Absent that motivation, they're listless and uninspired.

 
Rotoworld:

The Packers have delayed coach Mike McCarthy's press conference from 4:45pm Monday to 3:15pm Tuesday.

We strongly suspect the postponement has something to do with the status of Aaron Rodgers' collarbone. Either the results of the latest tests aren't in yet, or they've been revealed and the Packers are deciding how to play their hand. Rodgers has repeatedly said he fully expects to play, but the franchise and doctors will want to take a conservative approach with playoff hopes waning. We might not have a real answer on this until McCarthy talks on Tuesday.


Source: Paul Imig on Twitter
Well looks like we will know something of major impact tomorrow at 3:15p. Has to be for them to delay a presser.

 
Rotoworld:

The Packers have delayed coach Mike McCarthy's press conference from 4:45pm Monday to 3:15pm Tuesday.

We strongly suspect the postponement has something to do with the status of Aaron Rodgers' collarbone. Either the results of the latest tests aren't in yet, or they've been revealed and the Packers are deciding how to play their hand. Rodgers has repeatedly said he fully expects to play, but the franchise and doctors will want to take a conservative approach with playoff hopes waning. We might not have a real answer on this until McCarthy talks on Tuesday.


Source: Paul Imig on Twitter
More speculation by RW.... I've learned to just read the headlines and mostly ignore their comments.

 
With the delay, they have to be IR'ing him right?
That's my guess.
Well the slick move backfired. Traded for him in hopes of having him for the playoffs, now I rely on Alex Smith. At least I have the schedule working for me, ugh.

Isn't it soon to be IR'ing him especially with how Detroit manages to let things slip away all the time and with Chicago not able to pull away from anyone either.

He may not be healed and could come back week 16 if need be, but IR'ing him now? White flag for sure, no?

 
Phenix said:
sho nuff said:
I keep seeing people saying that they should just hold him out for the rest of the season even if he can play. Why would anyone think that? Green Bay is only 1.5 games out of first place with 4 to go. Detroit is far from a lock to win 3 of their last 4, this is still a very wide open division.
This is a very good post. I can understand a concerned fan expressing reservations of Rodgers coming back too soon. But we've got losers in here saying that even if he doesn't come back next week (14) then he should shut it down and not come back for the last 3 games because Green Bay will be out of it. Well, if the guy is cleared to play with 5 weeks of rest then saying he should shut it down with 3 games left is tantamount to tanking. I mean, really - the Texans have been out of it for about 5 weeks now but they are still playing the games.I don't know, the more I hear from Rodgers supporters and Green Bay fans the more I am losing respect for both. The whole "frozen tundra" image is being replaced by a lot of lame excuses and twisted sense of entitlement. News flash - Aaron Rodgers hasn't done enough yet to rest on his laurels. He is nowhere near the Brady, Manning, Brees echelon.
Not sure he will be fully healed is the thing.

I think if they are in it and he comes back next week, there are still risks.

Why not let him rest it out...figure out if Tolzien is the starter for the future?

Whats the point in putting him out there not 100% if they can't make the playoffs. That seems to be the concern.

But oh no...General Tso and his chicken are losing respect for Rodgers for things people are speculating and losing respect for fans who would rather see him 100% healthy next year rather than go out there in games when they have zero shot at the playoffs.
They do have a shot at the playoffs, why does everyone keep missing that or is that of zero importance?
Im not talking about this week. Im saying if by next week that any shot at the playoffs are slim to none...makes no sense.

I don't think sitting him this week would be a sign of anything more than he is not medically ready.

 
MMMD extra: When will Aaron Rodgers return to action?

The NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reported that Green Bay’s star signal-caller will be “lucky” to return next week and may be shut down for good if the team is out of the playoff race. Meanwhile, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen indicated that a “strong consensus” from doctors and team will be required.

Medically, a distal clavicle non-displaced fracture takes 4-6 weeks to heal. Fractures typically take a minimum of six weeks, but the end of the collarbone is cancellous (spongy) bone that heals quicker than a cortical (hard) bone of a mid-shaft fracture. Three weeks ago, on this medical basis, I estimated Rodgers’ return at 4-6 weeks and that has not changed.

What could change is that Green Bay may be out of playoff contention in the near future, forcing the team to hold out its quarterback.

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Dr. David Chao is a former NFL head team physician with 17 years of sideline, locker and training room experience. He currently has a successful orthopedic/sports medicine practice in San Diego.

 
In a somewhat related move maybe?

Kahlil Bell tweets that he's signing with the Packers

Green Bay --- In non-Aaron Rodgers news, it appears the Packers are adding a running back. Kahlil Bell tweeted Monday that he's signing with Green Bay.

With rookie Johnathan Franklin on injured reserve, the Packers were down to just Eddie Lacy, James Starks and John Kuhn at running back. Bell would provide depth, though he also hasn't played at all this season.

In three years with the Chicago Bears, he rushed for 633 yards on 148 attempts (4.3 avg.) with 22 receptions. Green Bay is familiar with Bell. On Christmas Day in 2011, Bell had his best game as a pro. In the 35-21 Packers win, he rushed for 121 yards on 23 carries and had four catches for 38 more yards.

Green Bay also showed interested in Bell last season. He worked out for the team on Nov. 7, 2012.

Now, Bell may be returning to Lambeau Field in a different capacity. There has been no announcement made by the team yet.

It's unknown what the corresponding roster move would be.
Can we connect the dots?

 
General Tso said:
ghostguy123 said:
General Tso said:
ghostguy123 said:
LargeMouthBass said:
All GB had to do was win 1 out 3 and they couldn't even do that. If GB's virtually out of the playoffs, no need for him to return. I would hate for him to get injured where his career is over. Rest up for the next season.
Well, I am of the belief that even if they were in the playoff hunt and had won a couple of their recent games, that he still would not play until he is 100% with no increased risk of a re-break of that bone.

Unfortunately, we are not privy to the severity of the break, the xrays, or the exams he goes through.

But really regardless of their playoff standing, this isn't an injury you "tough out". It's almost a certainty any moderate hit would re-break the bone if not fully healed.

This is just one of the few injuries you can not play through unless you are fully healed. ANd if you do, you are asking for disaster.
Oh my God you'd think we were talking about a spinal cord injury. It's his freaking collar bone - on his non throwing side no less!You know, I keep hearing about what an MVP this guy is. Let's see how valuable he is and how much he really cares about his team winning. The season is on the line and you've got about 10 months of rest coming up. Sack it up and get out there next week. Jeebus.
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
Dude, this is the NFL. There's a possible career ending injury on just about every play for someone on the field. Sorry, but rebreaking a collar bone and having it end a career is very very hard to conceive. And yes, I've read all the medical info. The medicals will always point to the most dire of circumstances. And it will have been a full 4 weeks on what was described as a very simple, straight fracture.
I am not much of a Packer fan and this is what I think too. He needs to get his butt back out there. My Vikings buddies have always referred to him as 'Erin' and it is starting to look as if they might be right. If he is not playing this week, I will forever think of him as 'Erin'.
Fixed.

 
I can't stand Rodgers, so I hope he plays. I don't see how any Packers fan would want to see him out ther, though. This season is over. Don't hurt your most valuable player for nothing.

 
ghostguy123 said:
cstu said:
ghostguy123 said:
Clearly you aren't aware of the possibility of CAREER threatening injury of a bad re-break of this bone.

Or maybe you are, but Rodgers has little woman balls for not "toughing it out".

I love this thread more and more every minute.
If the collarbone breaks it will be where it broke before since that's the weakest point. I'm not saying that Rodgers should absolutely return but this fear of a career ending injury is extremely overblown.
I agree it is a VERY VERY long longshot for that.

However, the chances of a re-break, if not healed.......................well, they are quite high
The chances are very high, but the Packers have legitimate shot at making the Super Bowl if they can slip into the playoffs.
Hell no
 
Rotoworld:

The Packers have delayed coach Mike McCarthy's press conference from 4:45pm Monday to 3:15pm Tuesday.

We strongly suspect the postponement has something to do with the status of Aaron Rodgers' collarbone. Either the results of the latest tests aren't in yet, or they've been revealed and the Packers are deciding how to play their hand. Rodgers has repeatedly said he fully expects to play, but the franchise and doctors will want to take a conservative approach with playoff hopes waning. We might not have a real answer on this until McCarthy talks on Tuesday.


Source: Paul Imig on Twitter
Well looks like we will know something of major impact tomorrow at 3:15p. Has to be for them to delay a presser.
If the Packer's are going to IR Rodgers tomorrow, we'll know before McCarthy's 3:15 press conference. Rodgers has his weekly radio show at 1:00.

 
Phenix said:
General Tso said:
Phenix said:
With the delay, they have to be IR'ing him right?
That's my guess.
Well the slick move backfired. Traded for him in hopes of having him for the playoffs, now I rely on Alex Smith. At least I have the schedule working for me, ugh.

Isn't it soon to be IR'ing him especially with how Detroit manages to let things slip away all the time and with Chicago not able to pull away from anyone either.

He may not be healed and could come back week 16 if need be, but IR'ing him now? White flag for sure, no?
Traded for him myself luckily I have McCown and Cutler for backup but sad to see the inevitable happening, IR is on the horizon.
 
Yeah I don't see the point in IR'ing him now. There's what, 4 weeks left. They must think 1) He can't come back this year or 2) They can't catch the Lions or 3) They really want that roster spot for someone else.

 
Yeah I don't see the point in IR'ing him now. There's what, 4 weeks left. They must think 1) He can't come back this year or 2) They can't catch the Lions or 3) They really want that roster spot for someone else.
You don't see the point in IRing him with 4 weeks left?

How about it stops this media circus with a daily rodgers watch? How distracting that must be. Also, if they are out of it, why keep Rodgers active? Shut him down on the IR so he can focus on healing. If they are out of the race, which after this week they likely will be, why bring him back? There's no positives, only negatives to that scenario

 
Yeah I don't see the point in IR'ing him now. There's what, 4 weeks left. They must think 1) He can't come back this year or 2) They can't catch the Lions or 3) They really want that roster spot for someone else.
You don't see the point in IRing him with 4 weeks left?

How about it stops this media circus with a daily rodgers watch? How distracting that must be. Also, if they are out of it, why keep Rodgers active? Shut him down on the IR so he can focus on healing. If they are out of the race, which after this week they likely will be, why bring him back? There's no positives, only negatives to that scenario
I think the Rodgers watch would stop if they are eliminated. Maybe because I'm not in GB, but I don't think there's been a ton of talk about him on a national level.

 

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