Ilov80s
Footballguy
I am surprised about the lack of love or interrupt in Spotlight but I certainly agree the Oscars don’t usually get it right. Often the best movies in retrospect aren’t even nominated.
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simey
Footballguy
I enjoyed CODA. I liked it best out of all the movies I saw that year.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Yeah I only went through the nominees didn’t look for any other should have won candidates
Ilov80s
Footballguy
For me Zodiac and The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford are as good or better.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Zodiac is really good, don’t think I’ve seen Jesse James
Eephus
Footballguy
It's very polarizing. You'll either love it or hate it.
rockaction
Footballguy
I think this wins one of the best movie titles ever. I personally couldn't get through it. No Country For Old Men was a masterclass in film from guys who love film for film's sake. I've never seen Zodiac. There Will Be Blood was not nearly as compelling as No Country, but it's also still a great film. But to be honest, I tuned out during that one, too. It took a re-watching and some concerted attention.
But that was also when I drank, so I was easily distracted if the movies weren't suspenseful or moving at the particular point I started wanting them to be. Like forcing a puzzle piece into a puzzle, that sort of emotion.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
The Duff Man
Footballguy
The final paragraph says it all:
“There’s a crucial difference between liking the idea of a movie and liking the movie itself. Just as you could like “Jaws” without wanting to instigate a decadeslong paranoia about shark attacks, you can dislike “Barbie” without hating on women. Sometimes a movie is just a movie. And sometimes, alas, not a good one.”
Robbie not nominated?
PATRIARCHY!
Never mind it would be another WOMAN that would be bumped to get her a nod. And 99.9% of the people shouting this have not seen all of the other performances.
Anyway, I liked the movie. Don’t think she did a particularly amazing job acting.
“There’s a crucial difference between liking the idea of a movie and liking the movie itself. Just as you could like “Jaws” without wanting to instigate a decadeslong paranoia about shark attacks, you can dislike “Barbie” without hating on women. Sometimes a movie is just a movie. And sometimes, alas, not a good one.”
Robbie not nominated?
PATRIARCHY!
Never mind it would be another WOMAN that would be bumped to get her a nod. And 99.9% of the people shouting this have not seen all of the other performances.
Anyway, I liked the movie. Don’t think she did a particularly amazing job acting.
bigbottom
Footballguy
I know I am repeating myself, but I thought Robbie's performance in that role was really good, and markedly better than Gosling and Ferrera, who both got nods. But I wouldn't bump the two Best Actress nominees that I've seen (Gladstone and Huller) to make room for Robbie, so I'm suggesting neither a travesty nor a snub. Also, I haven't seen all the nominated Best Pictures, or every other film that was in the running, but Barbie didn't feel Best Picture nominee-worthy to me if I'm being honest.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, I probably shouldn't have even chimed in with the snub/patriarchy business. Gerwig has always been smarter than something so reductive as that. I hope. I think people's reactions formed my opinion about seeing it, and it was probably in error.
I don't even feel like I'm backtracking. I wasn't that upset and it's just a product of the outrage du jour that happens way too often in our cultural landscape these days. I think I fell a victim to it if people I trust are adamantly insisting the opposite of what I posited.
Oh well, that's one fluffy movie that I didn't spend an hour and a half on.
I don't even feel like I'm backtracking. I wasn't that upset and it's just a product of the outrage du jour that happens way too often in our cultural landscape these days. I think I fell a victim to it if people I trust are adamantly insisting the opposite of what I posited.
Oh well, that's one fluffy movie that I didn't spend an hour and a half on.
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
I thought Barbie was average even though it started really well.
I still remember watching Ladybird with my wife, sister and daughter. I thought it was average, too. In fact parts of it were just too exaggerated.
After it was over, I thought that one of those 3 might have really liked it or saw something in it that I didn't, but all 3 said meh.
So far Gerwig seems pretty overrated.
I still remember watching Ladybird with my wife, sister and daughter. I thought it was average, too. In fact parts of it were just too exaggerated.
After it was over, I thought that one of those 3 might have really liked it or saw something in it that I didn't, but all 3 said meh.
So far Gerwig seems pretty overrated.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I think part of the extra love for Barbie is in the production design. It’s incredible and it’s pretty much all real, they built that world and did not rely heavily on CGI. Many of the shots you think are CGI, aren’t. The recreation of the 2001 opening was meticulously done. Gerwig said we are either going to recreate it 100% perfect or not at all. Also it got extra love for making so much money and not being a super hero movie. Yes Barbie is IP but it’s not IP that’s ever been at the box office so I think the voters in the guild were just so happy to see Barbie and Oppenheimer, two mostly original works, kick the crap out of Marvel and show original movie making by actual artists can be blockbusters again.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Also it's just how subjective art always is. One person loves Past Lives, another says it was the most boring movie ever. Bonnie and Clyde was either revolutionary or a sign of a cultural apocalypse. A movie like Out of Africa got a 4 star review from Ebert, dominated the Oscars and was one of the highest grossing movies of the year and yet there is literally no discussion or interest or footprint from that movie today. Then you have The Thing which critics hated, audiences ignored and was shut out for even FX awards. Today it's considered a sci-fi classic and a movie that is constantly talked about.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Yes, and I think John Carpenter is the poster boy for this phenomenon. Halloween is a classic, but even that one was panned when it came out and took a while to catch on. The Thing, Escape from New York, Big Trouble in Little China, and even They Live have audiences today that far exceed those of more critically-acclaimed movies that came out in their era.
Eephus
Footballguy
Halloween got strong reviews upon its initial release. I was in college at the time and I cut classes the afternoon it opened based a rave review by Richard Corliss, who was writing for New Times at the time. Carpenter won the LA Film Critics award in 1979 for the film.
It was a independent production released through a small distributor so it didn't open simultaneously in thousands of theaters. It needed the reviews and a strong worth-of-mouth to build an audience to become a huge commercial success.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Too slow? You may also have a hard time with Past Lives, Killers, and Anatomy of a Fall, all nominees I really liked a great deal.
Hope to watch The Holdovers tonight.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah Oppenheimer is long but I definitely never found it slow.
bigbottom
Footballguy
I didn’t think any of the others I listed were slow either. But other people do.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Oh yeah that post was meant to be in your and Oppenheimers defense
Eephus
Footballguy
I think long, deliberately paced films work better in a theater than when you're at home with distractions and a pause button.
bigbottom
Footballguy
I agree - mentioned that very thing in the Killers thread.
simey
Footballguy
I have the soundtrack and I still play it sometimes, but I haven't seen the movie in a long time.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Really liked this movie. Giamatti deserves the Best Actor win over Cillian Murphy in my opinion, but I haven’t seen the other nominees’ films yet.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
I haven't seen Rustin yet, but of the other 4, I agree, Giamatti is my favorite.
fantasy stud
Footballguy
She was phenominal. Fun movie.Hopefully Emma Stone wins best actress for Poor Things, and It also deserves an award for the visuals, either cinematography, visual effects, costumes, and/or makeup/hairstyling.
But it‘s also kinda woke
fantasy stud
Footballguy
I really enjoyed Spotlight that year.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I’ve seen Rustin (and each of the movies with Best Actor nominations except for Jeffrey Wright and American Fiction)… would agree with Giamatti as well.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Watched “Society of the Snow” tonight — up for best international feature. About the crash of Uruguayan Flight 571 in the Andes Mountains — much better than I remember “Alive” being, as felt more true to the real figures and story.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
More props here for The Holdovers. Giamatti was great in a hilarious but also touching role.
Eephus
Footballguy
Here's a fascinating and technical 
article about how the filmmakers achieved the retro look and feel of The Holdovers.
filmmakermagazine.com
article about how the filmmakers achieved the retro look and feel of The Holdovers.
The “Film Look” and How <em>The Holdovers</em> Achieved It - Filmmaker Magazine
Publication with a focus on independent film, offering articles, links, and resources.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Very interesting and honestly, it should be an Academy category. I need to watch Mank again to compare because they did a lot to that to give it the appearance of a projected film down to burn marks and coffee stains.Here's a fascinating and technical
The “Film Look” and How <em>The Holdovers</em> Achieved It - Filmmaker Magazine
Publication with a focus on independent film, offering articles, links, and resources.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Watched “Bobi Wine: The People’s President” last night — nominated for Best Documentary Feature. Streaming on Disney+ (trailer). I remember posting about Bobi Wine and the Ugandan election in my Foreign Elections Thread in the Politics Forum; this documentary is quite up my alley for any who remember that thread.
Bobi Wine is a fascinating figure — Ugandan pop music figure turned political activist who ran to try to defeat a military dictatorship. Lost the election due to fraud and intimidation and crackdowns; been subject to arrests and his driver killed. Filmmakers had great access throughout that period. I would have liked a bit more of the Ugandan history to give a bit more context (as focus is really on Bobi Wine and the election), but that won’t stop me from recommending it.
Bobi Wine is a fascinating figure — Ugandan pop music figure turned political activist who ran to try to defeat a military dictatorship. Lost the election due to fraud and intimidation and crackdowns; been subject to arrests and his driver killed. Filmmakers had great access throughout that period. I would have liked a bit more of the Ugandan history to give a bit more context (as focus is really on Bobi Wine and the election), but that won’t stop me from recommending it.
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Finally got around to watching Barbie, i totally get why Gosling got nominated, the “I’m Just Ken” song was well done. Ferrera I get, she got to do some heavy lifting with the “it’s so hard to be a woman” speech/monologue. Yeah, a little sarcasm there as it was heavily eye rolling IMO. Movie was okay, definitely don’t get why the world was over the moon last year though, a lot less laughter than expected, much more serious and I thought the themes were pretty conflicting.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Watched “20 Days in Mariupol” tonight. One of the most powerful, gut-wrenching documentaries I’ve seen. Going to be hard to forget some of those images.
I’m through three of the nominees for best documentary feature so far (Bobi Wine, Eternal Memory, and Mariupol). 20 Days in Mariupol my pick so far.
(I read some references to American Symphony being “snubbed” — I’ve seen that one too, and that complaint should be canned. It was fine, but nominees are all superior so far.)
I’m through three of the nominees for best documentary feature so far (Bobi Wine, Eternal Memory, and Mariupol). 20 Days in Mariupol my pick so far.
(I read some references to American Symphony being “snubbed” — I’ve seen that one too, and that complaint should be canned. It was fine, but nominees are all superior so far.)
Don Quixote
Footballguy
“Poor Things” streaming on Hulu starting today.
May switch over to that for evening watching versus finishing Napoleon.
May switch over to that for evening watching versus finishing Napoleon.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Thanks! I will try to get to that before Sunday. Zone of Interest is another I really wanted to watch as well.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I thought I was saving the best for last and waiting on the movie that is predicted to win the most. Probably my least favorite of the ones I've seen so far. 
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
Oppenheimer I assume?I thought I was saving the best for last and waiting on the movie that is predicted to win the most. Probably my least favorite of the ones I've seen so far.
I agree. I liked it but it’s well down my list of favorites for Best Pic this year.
Maestro is at the bottom of that list though.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Poor Things is so weird. I ****ing love it.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I fell asleep during Maestro. That one would be at bottom of my list too.Oppenheimer I assume?I thought I was saving the best for last and waiting on the movie that is predicted to win the most. Probably my least favorite of the ones I've seen so far.
I agree. I liked it but it’s well down my list of favorites for Best Pic this year.
Maestro is at the bottom of that list though.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Yeah, and I'm undecided if I would even say the bolded.Oppenheimer I assume?I thought I was saving the best for last and waiting on the movie that is predicted to win the most. Probably my least favorite of the ones I've seen so far.
I agree. I liked it but it’s well down my list of favorites for Best Pic this year.
Maestro is at the bottom of that list though.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Very very weird, enjoyable movie. Not sure I will ever watch again but my wife and I laughed out loud several times.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah Maestro was so disappointing. Looked and sounded great but that’s about it.I fell asleep during Maestro. That one would be at bottom of my list too.Oppenheimer I assume?I thought I was saving the best for last and waiting on the movie that is predicted to win the most. Probably my least favorite of the ones I've seen so far.
I agree. I liked it but it’s well down my list of favorites for Best Pic this year.
Maestro is at the bottom of that list though.
