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***Official Academy Awards Discussion Thread*** - Anora is the Big Winner (3 Viewers)

“Chris” backwards is “Sirhc” which is an acronym for “Slap If Rude Head Crack” which means that Smith’s Scientology brain implant would be triggered (like Reggie Jackson in Naked Gun) if Chris Rock made an impolite reference to someone’s head. I’m still trying to figure out how this ties into child trafficking and pizza restaurants but I’ve been busy at work.

 
Kind of sad how everything has gotten overshadowed. Questlove’s win and acceptance speech for Summer of Soul came as everyone watching was trying to figure out what the heck just happened. And CODA’s big win now looking more like a footnote to the evening.
Yeah I felt bad for Summer of Soul. IMO that was the best movie of the year too. 

 
That was totally a movie slap with just the fingertips on the chin, and they both smile a bit before Smith heads off the stage.
He is a movie star who has been perhaps trained to slap that way? Or he just didn't land a direct hit, it happens. Smiles can mean a lot of things. Smith smiling out of satisfaction because had wanted to do that for awhile. Rock smiling because of how uncomfortable he is over getting slapped on national TV. Just like how Will was laughing at the joke initially. You hear something you know is supposed to be funny, you are uncomfortable and smile to go a long with it. Then you think about it for second and realize it wasn't funny at all. 

 
My take on it is Smith has to have some issues he's being treated for (or maybe not being treated for) and during an insanely high stress night for him he had some kind of psychotic episode. The whole thing is so bizarre i still can't even wrap my head around it.

And for people chastising those in attendance for applauding him when he won his award, I'd guess most in theater were confused as to what had taken place. It was one of those "did that really happen moments?" for people watching at home, in the actual theater it was probably even more confusing.

I really thought I'd wake up today to a statement from him apologizing and trying to spin what what down but I guess his people are still working on it. His career is obviously in the balance. Going to be interesting how they choose to handle it.

 
Why do they keep inviting comedians to the Oscars if these thin skinned Hollywood elites can't take a joke?

 
WORST.  OSCARS.  EVER.
Going on a decade since the last time I watched this self righteous  garbage. It is incredibly bad and has been for even longer than the last decade.....probably the last 20 years now it has been unwatchable. It has all become about political agendas.....not movies. The amount of self rightiousness that is displayed not only on the Oscars.......but also The Grammey’s, The Golden Globes or whatever award show you want to insert in here is ridiculous. It has been unwatchable for me personally for a long time. 

It looked real, but the strange thing is that Smith looked like he was laughing at the joke seconds before he went on stage and then it almost looked like he was trying not to smile when walking back to his seat, but the way he screamed at him just doesn't seem like something that would have been part of anything planned. 
He was clearly chuckling about the joke......then went postal.

They had Puff Daddy intro the 50 year anniversary of The Godfather, they then showed a 30 second or so montage of clip’s from all 3 movies while playing a medley of Puff Daddy songs before he introduced Pacino, Coppola, and DeNiro. I #### you not, that’s what they came up with to honor the 50th anniversary!
You have got to be ****ing kidding me.......pathetic. A new low.

 
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If you want a conspiracy, the conspiracy is that Disney/ABC are trying to destroy the Oscars because it’s been such a prestigious signifier for the movies but it doesn’t align with what Disney does now. I could see them trying to sabotage the Oscars so they can replace it with something more Disney/Marvel friendly. It sure seemed like they tried to bury the movies they inherited from their buyout of Fox this year.

 
Smith was lucky to have those mensches in attendance with him last night. Denzel, Tyler Perry and Bradley Cooper doing their best to show him some love and calm him down during the commercial break. Those guys had to be thinking they were seeing a manic episode happening right in front of them and did what they could to help him in that moment.

 
Smith was lucky to have those mensches in attendance with him last night. Denzel, Tyler Perry and Bradley Cooper doing their best to show him some love and calm him down during the commercial break. Those guys had to be thinking they were seeing a manic episode happening right in front of them and did what they could to help him in that moment.
Yes, I was happy to see them out there comforting the guy who just slapped someone. Will must have been very shaken after attacking the guy who had to then continue on live TV. 

 
Yes, I was happy to see them out there comforting the guy who just slapped someone. Will must have been very shaken after attacking the guy who had to then continue on live TV. 
I'm not defending what Will Smith did but the guy was clearly having some kind of episode. They were just trying to diffuse the situation.

 
it's super bizarre anyone would think this was staged

would love to see a venn diagram of people who think the NFL games are fixed, birds don't exist, and Will Smith slapping Chris Rock was preplanned


Wait, people believe that birds don't exist?

Have I stumbled into another timeline again?

 
I'm not defending what Will Smith did but the guy was clearly having some kind of episode. They were just trying to diffuse the situation.
He calmly walked up there like he was going to have a quiet word. Slapped him, then sat back down. He had the wherewithal to give a speech, and there's video of him dancing with his Oscar at the Vanity Fair after party.

He made a bad decision. He wasn't temporarily insane. 

 
He calmly walked up there like he was going to have a quiet word. Slapped him, then sat back down. He had the wherewithal to give a speech, and there's video of him dancing with his Oscar at the Vanity Fair after party.

He made a bad decision. He wasn't temporarily insane. 
The only thing more bonkers than his speech was the actual slap. As far as the decision to go to the after party after what happened, I don't know what they were thinking. I was just saying that those guys who tried to diffuse the situation during the break did it from a place of grace and empathy. If I haven't said it yet or wasn't clear, what Will Smith did to Chris Rock last night was horrific and unconscionable.

 
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People still saying it’s fake despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary are half a step away from QAnon. There is zero reason will smith and rock would fake that, doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny at all. 
Yeah I think the Venn diagram there is pretty close to a circle 

 
Not really, Ricky Gervais almost broke Hollywood a few years back and will never be invited back.
Well they mostly handled it fine at event. Laugh and move on. At least that’s what I remember. I don’t remember his exact jokes but I think he’s an ##### generally. I just don’t get why the award show for an industry would used as a way to roast all the people being honored. It would be like bringing a comedian to the NFL Hall of Fame to make jokes about Ray Lewis’ involvement in a homicide, CTE and   Kareem Hunt’s domestic abuse. 

 
Wait, people believe that birds don't exist?

Have I stumbled into another timeline again?
I presume it's like flat earthers

when you first hear about it, you chalk it up to a meme you haven't seen or a reference to a film/show you never saw

then one day it hits you...

(no unlike someone walking right up to you and slapping you across the face bc you just insulted their wife)

yep, Birds Aren't Real is actually a thing

 
Well they mostly handled it fine at event. Laugh and move on. At least that’s what I remember. I don’t remember his exact jokes but I think he’s an ##### generally. I just don’t get why the award show for an industry would used as a way to roast all the people being honored. It would be like bringing a comedian to the NFL Hall of Fame to make jokes about Ray Lewis’ involvement in a homicide, CTE and   Kareem Hunt’s domestic abuse. 
Because that's the only way I would watch it.  Take the humor out of the event, and you would have no viewers.  And the Gervaise Oscars was the most entertaining one I'd ever seen.

 
If you want a conspiracy, the conspiracy is that Disney/ABC are trying to destroy the Oscars because it’s been such a prestigious signifier for the movies but it doesn’t align with what Disney does now. I could see them trying to sabotage the Oscars so they can replace it with something more Disney/Marvel friendly. It sure seemed like they tried to bury the movies they inherited from their buyout of Fox this year.


The fallacy is that the Oscars is prestigious or signals success.  If success is money I'm going to bet the first night of any marvel release makes more money than the last 10 best pictures combined.  

The average person I'm betting can't name a single best picture winner in the prior decade.  I haven't even seen one of them.  I doubt I'm alone.  

 
Kind of sad how everything has gotten overshadowed. 
Especially the bizarre cover of Norman Greenbaum’s “Spirit In the Sky” sung by joyous and slightly off tune gospel singers as a montage of Hollywood dead appears on screen behind them. That should have been the headline. 

 
Don Quixote said:
White Men Can’t Jump a pretty random one for a 30th anniversary reunion. 
When I think of great Hollywood movies The Godfather and Pulp Fiction come to mind but not White Men Can't Jump.

 
Well they mostly handled it fine at event. Laugh and move on. At least that’s what I remember. I don’t remember his exact jokes but I think he’s an ##### generally. I just don’t get why the award show for an industry would used as a way to roast all the people being honored. It would be like bringing a comedian to the NFL Hall of Fame to make jokes about Ray Lewis’ involvement in a homicide, CTE and   Kareem Hunt’s domestic abuse. 
I don't get it either. 

They didn't agree to be roasted. They were nominated for an award. 

Why do comedians get to make it about themselves, and simply be mean? 

And let's be honest, the ones who would be happy to see the "Hollywood elite" get their comeuppance aren't watching the Oscars anyway, under any circumstances. 

 
The songs they’re performing as they show the dead people are…ill suited, maybe tasteless? Just wrong in any case. 
Irritated with how this was done. The focus should have been on those who have passed on as opposed to the dancers/singers who were performing in front of the screen. 

 
The fallacy is that the Oscars is prestigious or signals success.  If success is money I'm going to bet the first night of any marvel release makes more money than the last 10 best pictures combined.  

The average person I'm betting can't name a single best picture winner in the prior decade.  I haven't even seen one of them.  I doubt I'm alone.  
I’m with on the general sentiment but I could name the last three bc I streamed each of them - and IIRC Parasite did great at the box office 

But I think the last one I saw in a theater was…probably Slumdog Millionaire (2009)

Box office has rarely been indicative of a film’s Oscar Best Pucture chances, and IME blockbuster status is only tangentially connected to quality

 
Will was absolutely out of line, and should have been removed. He had so many other ways to handle it…talk about it in his speech, talk about it with the press after, even take it up with Rock backstage. He whiffed.

But I’m also not a fan of normalizing making fun of a woman’s appearance, especially if it’s due to illness. What if she was missing a foot from diabetes? A double mastectomy from cancer? Are those okay too?

 
Interesting take from another board: Schrodinger's Slap ... simultaneously real and staged?

I’ve never been a professional actor but, going back to acting class, doing plays when I was younger, etc. I feel like there’s a middle ground between “Will Smith going into rage mode” and “It was staged.”

If you’re able to do improv and you’re performing then the agenda is to create entertainment for the audience. Entertainment - other than naked hotties, explosions, and jokes - is drama. Smith was there in the front row, he could walk up there quickly and get back, a fellow performer gave him an opening to do something dramatic, and (potentially) he knew the guy well enough to understand that he would realize that 30% he’d actually pissed off Will but 70% the cameras created a good moment to create a memorable moment for the show.

It was real and it was also - in that moment and by the understanding of the improvisational nature of the persons involved - generated as an impromptu staged occurrence.

Smith targeted the level of smack, the amount of trash talking, etc. to all fit inside a soundbite and not truly harm Rock in any way. He got revenge for his wife, created a perfect moment of TV, and helped to boost Rock’s image. It was a perfect chance for the heist, where he could get away with it, and he used his talents as an entertainer to pull it off, knowing that he would get away with it because it was great TV and no one had truly been hurt.

 
We might need a list in the OP for record of where everyone stands on this (staged or not staged).
I have no idea if it was staged or not.  But that slap looked staged to some degree.  The previous post is interesting and kind of comes to this conclusion.  Just very odd and looked even stranger.  

 
1 hour ago, Hov34 said:
Not really, Ricky Gervais almost broke Hollywood a few years back and will never be invited back.

Speaking of Gervais.
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Why do I feel you are being political here?  Are you a Qanon believer?  I just want to know so I know whether or not to put you on ignore.  You have an awful lot of the same opinions as my Q sister in law.


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How am I being political here???

 
Will needs to make a donation to charity of Chris’ choosing and offer to go on a Comedy Central Roast to thicken his skin. Turn those guys loose on him. Man - I sure wish Greg Giraldo was still alive. 

 
Does he have to press charges for Smith to be charged?  
If Rock doesn't press charges and doesn't participate in the prosecution, the defense can argue that it was all a work (staged) and no one would testify to the contrary.  A battery is a strike without consent.

 
But I’m also not a fan of normalizing making fun of a woman’s appearance, especially if it’s due to illness. What if she was missing a foot from diabetes? A double mastectomy from cancer? Are those okay too?
When I first saw the clip, I thought, "eh, if you're gonna shave your head you're going to have to deal with the flack that comes with it." Then I learned that she struggles with alopecia and that changed everything. I'm ok with making fun of women's appearances. I'm not ok with making fun of people's diseases/ailments.

 
Because that's the only way I would watch it.  Take the humor out of the event, and you would have no viewers.  And the Gervaise Oscars was the most entertaining one I'd ever seen.
That’s why you watch it, I don’t think that’s why the majority of people watch.

 
When I first saw the clip, I thought, "eh, if you're gonna shave your head you're going to have to deal with the flack that comes with it." Then I learned that she struggles with alopecia and that changed everything. I'm ok with making fun of women's appearances. I'm not ok with making fun of people's diseases/ailments.
Same.  

 
Denzel could have said “dude - you’re wrong” instead of waxing poetic about the devil. It’s called accountability. 
None of us know what Denzel actually said or the context in which he said it. That devil line could have happened during a different conversation and have had nothing to do with any of this. You're going off one line in a rambling, incoherent speech given by a guy who just assaulted a comedian on stage in from of millions of people. What I saw was three guys trying to diffuse a bonkers situation. Everybody around him had to have been in shock.

 

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