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Tat
Has-been punter
11/25/2007 7:48:00 AM et
The Vikings believe that Adrian Peterson could play Sunday if it was a playoff game, but the coaches want to hold him out one more week.
He'll test his knee in pregame warmups, but Peterson owners should honestly hope he sits out another week. His rapid recovery indicates he can be close to 100% for the fantasy playoffs.
The Vikings believe that Adrian Peterson could play Sunday if it was a playoff game, but the coaches want to hold him out one more week.
He'll test his knee in pregame warmups, but Peterson owners should honestly hope he sits out another week. His rapid recovery indicates he can be close to 100% for the fantasy playoffs.
grouse
Footballguy
Childress is such a yutz. Does he honestly think we don't see through this? Childress is under pressure from ownership to 'do the right thing' for Adrian Peterson and the franchise. We all know Childress wants to save his own employment, so what does he do? He goes on record saying Peterson is so close to returning that he probably 'could play' this week, and does so specifically so he can look like the 'cautious' coach and 'hold him out' one more week. It's a 6-week injury folks, torn knee ligaments don't heal in a couple of weeks. Good luck to Childress, AP and the franchise. For everyone's sake, I hope he doesn't re-injure upon his early return.
Thanks doc ... I'm sorry that you don't own AP in your FF league but the injury is obviously not as serious as you would like it to be.
Tat
Has-been punter
,S dude, the guy has a grade 2 (out of 3) tear in his LCL. While the LCL isn't the most important knee ligament as far as playing goes, the guy really should take it easy and not play just b/c you own him in your FF league.
grouse
Footballguy
LOL. I'm no doctor, and don't profess to be. But I have done a lot of reading and research on knee issues and ligaments (for my own personal knee issues and FF-related stuff as well). Do you think Peterson's MRI is miraculously clean after showing a torn ligament 2 weeks ago? Doubt it. Peterson's a gamer, and with the added stability of wearing a brace he may be able to get by playing at less than 100% health for the remainder of the season. But again, it's risk-reward, and thus the choice to play him this week or next seems rather transparent from Childress's perspective. That's all I'm saying. Fyi - I own both Peterson and Taylor. But I digress.
,S dude, the guy has a grade 2 (out of 3) tear in his LCL. While the LCL isn't the most important knee ligament as far as playing goes, the guy really should take it easy and not play just b/c you own him in your FF league. 
Another opinion from a well respected Doctor. Thank You .... Dr Andrews has nothing on you
Another opinion from a well respected Doctor. Thank You .... Dr Andrews has nothing on you
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grouse
Footballguy
There's a broad spectrum of opinion from doctors and pundits alike on whether Peterson should be returning this soon. I think you know that.Another opinion from a well respected Doctor. Thank You .... Dr Andrews has nothing on you,S dude, the guy has a grade 2 (out of 3) tear in his LCL. While the LCL isn't the most important knee ligament as far as playing goes, the guy really should take it easy and not play just b/c you own him in your FF league.
grouse
Footballguy
My bad. I'll take full responsibility for this.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
On topic.
Sal Pal just said on ESPN ADP was "highly unlikely" to play but still officially a GTD.
Sal Pal just said on ESPN ADP was "highly unlikely" to play but still officially a GTD.
Ozymandias
Footballguy
Anybody have any real news, or just the usual speculation by doctors with post doctorate degrees in speculation?
Sinrman
Footballguy
As a Peterson owner in a couple leagues, and as a fan (who watches him in awe), I truly hope they take their time with him. With his previous injury history, and this injury, they need to take it easy. They aren't much in the hunt for the playoffs. He's their franchise. He's incredible to watch. He will bring fans back to the games, after sucking for awhile...
AllVolUT
Footballguy
Rotoworld: The St. Paul Pioneer Press writes that Adrian Peterson (questionable, knee) "most likely" won't play in Week 12.
BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press
Article Last Updated: 11/23/2007 10:36:18 PM CST
The Vikings listed running back Adrian Peterson as questionable on their Friday injury report, but that doesn't mean he's going to play in Sunday's game at the New York Giants.
Realistically, he isn't expected to play until next week against Detroit, although questionable players, by definition, are supposed to have a 50-50 chance of playing.
"Yeah, there is a 50-50 chance that he will play," coach Brad Childress said. "That's like as professional fence riding as you can get, isn't it? That's the criteria right there. That's up to you with the pen on what side you decide to slant it, left-handed or right-handed."
Peterson, who tore the lateral collateral ligament in his right knee in a Nov. 11 loss at Green Bay, practiced on a limited basis for the third consecutive day Friday.
He said the knee felt fine during practices, which didn't include any contact, and wouldn't rule himself out for Sunday.
"I felt good out there today," Peterson said. "(I'll) just come in tomorrow and see how it feels, and we'll make that decision when it's time."
Peterson has been wearing a knee brace in practice and said he will continue to do so when he returns, if not this week, then next week for sure.
He is expected to undergo a follow-up magnetic resonance imaging test before being cleared to play, but Peterson said he had nothing scheduled.
"I'm pretty sure I'll find out that tomorrow or after the game," he said.
Chester Taylor is expected to get his second consecutive start in place of Peterson, who leads the NFL in rushing with 1,081 yards.
http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_7543551?nclick_check=1
Oops, sry I realize this is is a day and a half old...fact of the matter is they don't seem overly optimistic about Peterson playing this week.
BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press
Article Last Updated: 11/23/2007 10:36:18 PM CST
The Vikings listed running back Adrian Peterson as questionable on their Friday injury report, but that doesn't mean he's going to play in Sunday's game at the New York Giants.
Realistically, he isn't expected to play until next week against Detroit, although questionable players, by definition, are supposed to have a 50-50 chance of playing.
"Yeah, there is a 50-50 chance that he will play," coach Brad Childress said. "That's like as professional fence riding as you can get, isn't it? That's the criteria right there. That's up to you with the pen on what side you decide to slant it, left-handed or right-handed."
Peterson, who tore the lateral collateral ligament in his right knee in a Nov. 11 loss at Green Bay, practiced on a limited basis for the third consecutive day Friday.
He said the knee felt fine during practices, which didn't include any contact, and wouldn't rule himself out for Sunday.
"I felt good out there today," Peterson said. "(I'll) just come in tomorrow and see how it feels, and we'll make that decision when it's time."
Peterson has been wearing a knee brace in practice and said he will continue to do so when he returns, if not this week, then next week for sure.
He is expected to undergo a follow-up magnetic resonance imaging test before being cleared to play, but Peterson said he had nothing scheduled.
"I'm pretty sure I'll find out that tomorrow or after the game," he said.
Chester Taylor is expected to get his second consecutive start in place of Peterson, who leads the NFL in rushing with 1,081 yards.
http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_7543551?nclick_check=1
Oops, sry I realize this is is a day and a half old...fact of the matter is they don't seem overly optimistic about Peterson playing this week.
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Wow all this hate coming out of people this morning. Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Or wake up with a dude you thought was a chick in your beer goggles last night?
AP has torn his LCL... it was a grade 2 out of 3. This is a serious injury folks. It won't require surgery, and he should be able to practice (and play) with a brace... however, he's only sat out 2 weeks. 2 weeks is hardly enough time to rehab a strained hamstring, much less a torn LCL... the good news for Peterson is that the LCL has a good blood supply (unlike the PCL or ACL), and he "should" be able to heal pretty quick. The bad news for AP is if he rushes back he may suffer permanent damage to his knee if he reinjures it.
Depending on the location and severity of the tear, it could take about 4 weeks until he is ready to actually play. A grade 2 is nothing to shrug your shoulders and say "he should play because he's on my fantasy team." No, he really shouldn't play this week. In all reality, he probably "could play" as Childress is saying... yeah... "could play" about 5 snaps as a decoy. To look through the smoke on this one, Peterson doubtfull this week, questionable next. I'll say he has a 50-50 shot at playing next week, and that will still be rushing it back. Although, everyone heals at different rates, so maybe he is a fast healer and 3 weeks is all he'll need before resuming limited action.
And to qualify myself for qimqam there... that post came from a Doctor of Physical Therapy (DPT)
AP has torn his LCL... it was a grade 2 out of 3. This is a serious injury folks. It won't require surgery, and he should be able to practice (and play) with a brace... however, he's only sat out 2 weeks. 2 weeks is hardly enough time to rehab a strained hamstring, much less a torn LCL... the good news for Peterson is that the LCL has a good blood supply (unlike the PCL or ACL), and he "should" be able to heal pretty quick. The bad news for AP is if he rushes back he may suffer permanent damage to his knee if he reinjures it.
Depending on the location and severity of the tear, it could take about 4 weeks until he is ready to actually play. A grade 2 is nothing to shrug your shoulders and say "he should play because he's on my fantasy team." No, he really shouldn't play this week. In all reality, he probably "could play" as Childress is saying... yeah... "could play" about 5 snaps as a decoy. To look through the smoke on this one, Peterson doubtfull this week, questionable next. I'll say he has a 50-50 shot at playing next week, and that will still be rushing it back. Although, everyone heals at different rates, so maybe he is a fast healer and 3 weeks is all he'll need before resuming limited action.
And to qualify myself for qimqam there... that post came from a Doctor of Physical Therapy (DPT)
packersfan
Footballguy
From RotoWorld:
Vikings RB Adrian Peterson (questionable, knee) was warming up before Sunday's game against the Giants.
Looks like he might play, which could crush Chester Taylor's fantasy potential. Peterson has shown impressive ability to recover from his torn LCL. He's a borderline RB1 play if active against the Jints.
Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune
Vikings RB Adrian Peterson (questionable, knee) was warming up before Sunday's game against the Giants.
Looks like he might play, which could crush Chester Taylor's fantasy potential. Peterson has shown impressive ability to recover from his torn LCL. He's a borderline RB1 play if active against the Jints.
Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Thank you for the subsequent information as well.I also thought I read about incentives in Peterson's contract. I wouldn't discount that in the least playing a huge factor in things.
V1LL
Footballguy
maybe it's not so much self serving as it is trying to get the Giants to think he might play and therefore have to plan for him instead of concentrating on Chester and Tarvaris?
packersfan
Footballguy
Peterson still working out on the field to test his knee and the brace he'll have to wear. ESPN again said he's unlikely to play today.
V1LL
Footballguy
yeah, but what if he's been using a hyperbarick oxygen chamber?? huh?
Halvo
Footballguy
Peterson warming up
November 25th, 2007 – 9:53 AM by Kevin Seifert
It’s a little more than two hours before game time, and here’s what we can tell you about RB Adrian Peterson: He’s warming up on the field.
As I type this, Peterson is stretching at the 10-yard line. He’s wearing shorts, a purple undershirt and cleats. Athletic trainer Eric Sugarman is following him everywhere.
Again, the indications have been that Peterson was highly unlikely to play today, and for all we know this warmup is essentially serving as his rehabilitation work for today. It will also give the Giants a few things to think about as gametime approaches.
The Vikings are required to submit their list of gameday inactives at 10:30 CT, and we’ll let you know what develops.
November 25th, 2007 – 9:53 AM by Kevin Seifert
It’s a little more than two hours before game time, and here’s what we can tell you about RB Adrian Peterson: He’s warming up on the field.
As I type this, Peterson is stretching at the 10-yard line. He’s wearing shorts, a purple undershirt and cleats. Athletic trainer Eric Sugarman is following him everywhere.
Again, the indications have been that Peterson was highly unlikely to play today, and for all we know this warmup is essentially serving as his rehabilitation work for today. It will also give the Giants a few things to think about as gametime approaches.
The Vikings are required to submit their list of gameday inactives at 10:30 CT, and we’ll let you know what develops.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Speculation. That treatment is about the same as ultrasound treatment, ultraviolet light treatment, etc. It has research that says it works, and it has research that says it doesn't. Is it better than nothing? AbsolutelyLigaments generally have a poor blood supply, so for me to say that the LCL has a "good blood supply" is relative to the other ligaments around the knee; if you are going to tear a knee ligament, the best one is the LCL. By no means did I intend to imply that the LCL has a major artery running straight to it...
To address your question specificially, all that will do is increase his red blood cell count. The fact that more red blood cells are running around does not change how many blood vessels are in contact with the LCL. Sure, using this type of treatment could help you heal faster overall, but it's not a miracle chamber, the body still heals on its own time. It wouldn't shave 2 weeks off a typical 4 week rehab program. I'd say if he was getting all the proper treatment and rehabing well, and if he was a fast healer, he'd see limited time next week... and that's still pushing it
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
Agree. I'm SCREWED without AP, but he's a keeper and I would rather lose a couple games than have them rush him back. With how well Chester played last week, there should be no reason that they bring him back this week, or possibly next week.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
Paul Schwartz of the New York Post was just on with Jody MacDonald on ESPN 1050 Radio breaking down the Giants/Vikes matchup. He said the Vikes are WITHOUT Peterson today.
Chester Taylor owner (Own AP too, no RBBC today!!!)
V1LL
Footballguy
Shhh....don't tell that to Steve Yzerman
And exactly when did This "Doctor of Physical Therapy (DPT)" examine AP? And is he more reputable than Dr. James Andrews who did examine AP?http://post-gazette.screamingsports.com/aw...s%2f%3fp%3d1134
southeastjerome
Footballguy
The Vikings are definately not out of the playoff hunt in the NFC. Detroit currently holds the last wild card spot and they are 6-5. A Vikings win this week and they are 5-6 and have a home game vs. Detroit next week. This is a big game for them. Heck, even if they lose this week, their final 5 games are all very winnable. I don't think they should rush him back either. Another week to heal is the best decision here in my opinion, but disagree with saying that its not worth bring him back next week.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
Yes, I was looking at having to start Kolby Smith b/c I didn't want to mess with a RBBC.Paul Schwartz of the New York Post was just on with Jody MacDonald on ESPN 1050 Radio breaking down the Giants/Vikes matchup. He said the Vikes are WITHOUT Peterson today.
Chester Taylor owner (Own AP too, no RBBC today!!!)
To commish is my wish
Footballguy
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I haven't, which is why in my informational post there, if you read it, I said that depending on the location, severity of the tear depends how long he will be out for... but typically they take about 4 weeks. Never did I say "this is how it goes for everyone and that's the bottom line." I wouldn't. I clearly said at the end of my post, maybe he's a quick healer! Everyone has different responses to injuries; some heal faster, some take a very long time to heal. Maybe AP's a quick healer. Who knows. I sure don't, and neither do you... I'm just offering an intelligent post, something you need to work on jr.All I was doing in my post was qualifying myself. You kept saying "what are you a doctor?" so I wanted to save you the trouble. I haven't examined AP, so where in my post did I say, "APs injury is.... " All I did was give information on typical LCL tears... nothing more.
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RenegadeGM
Footballguy
OUT per Sal P.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Out per SalPal
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
I beat ESPN - I want a cookie
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
YES, AWESOME!
SharkBait
Footballguy
I think he was kidding... lol
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
okYes, I was looking at having to start Kolby Smith b/c I didn't want to mess with a RBBC.Paul Schwartz of the New York Post was just on with Jody MacDonald on ESPN 1050 Radio breaking down the Giants/Vikes matchup. He said the Vikes are WITHOUT Peterson today.Chester Taylor owner (Own AP too, no RBBC today!!!)
