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Official All-Pro Football 12 Team League (1 Viewer)

Offense seems fine...

35 QB's, 36 HB's, 5 FB's, 34 WR's, 13 TE's, 7 C's, 10 G's, 16 T's....156 offensive players

13 DT's, 17 DE's, 11 OLB's, 17 ILB's, 11 CB's, 5 SS's, 10 FS's...84 defensive players

11 rounds...say 6 defensive and 5 offensive players as an ideal...so would need 72 defensive players and 60 offensive players

30 DL, 27 LB, 26 DB

That leaves 2 DB's per team, 2 LB's per team, and 2 DL. Sure people usually play with 2 CB's and a safety but for the league team's would have to adjust. Everyone will be on the same playing field.

Maybe we should set a limit of 2 DL, 2 LB, and 2 DB so each team has at least that. Though there would be 6 DL, 3 LB, and 2 DB's left over so allow the first 2, 3, or 6 teams to draft and extra at that position are allowed to do so but no may draft an additional at that position if it doesn't leave the minimum 2 for everyone.

 
before it gets to my pick, i will only be able to play league games during the week after 1200 am EST and good on Sundays. If thats a problem, i can bow out.

 
Mesmashu said:
Zowned said:
:confused: May be thin at those positions so if you want them draft them early.
this is what's going to neutralize the experienced players advantage. we can't use our perfected teams and will have to improvise. I'm really excited about this draft league and can't wait to see how it plays out! The shortage of certain positions adds a huge twist here.
It's not gonna work.There ARE 11 CB in this game.MOST PEOPLE HAVE TWO ON DEFENSE! YOU NEED 24 CBs for all 12 teams. That means 1 team will NOT have a legend CB, about 5 will not have a LEGEND FS, and about 6 will NOT HAVE A LEGEND SS! One person will be missing a legend OLB!That is not "neutralizing" that is nuetering the game.
alright here's the problem. we have 12 guys with 12 different opinions. i tried breaking it up into smaller leagues but got resistance. you tried suggesting we only draft golds and silvers. that got resistance. everyone seems OK with a 12 team drafted league, but now you're showing resistance.there's not going to be a perfect solution for everyone! if we have a 12 team draft every team is going to have a weakness. the guy without a CB should have a FS and SS. The guy with 1 to 2 CB may not have a FS or SS or an OLB. its OK. its just for fun. the guy who has great DB's may not have any LB's and what happens when he runs up against a power running team? it's going to work itself out. you just aren't going to be able to build a perfect team. no one is. that's what makes this unique. it's going to be different. its OK.are you going to be OK with this?
 
Mesmashu said:
Zowned said:
:confused: May be thin at those positions so if you want them draft them early.
this is what's going to neutralize the experienced players advantage. we can't use our perfected teams and will have to improvise. I'm really excited about this draft league and can't wait to see how it plays out! The shortage of certain positions adds a huge twist here.
It's not gonna work.There ARE 11 CB in this game.MOST PEOPLE HAVE TWO ON DEFENSE! YOU NEED 24 CBs for all 12 teams. That means 1 team will NOT have a legend CB, about 5 will not have a LEGEND FS, and about 6 will NOT HAVE A LEGEND SS! One person will be missing a legend OLB!That is not "neutralizing" that is nuetering the game.
alright here's the problem. we have 12 guys with 12 different opinions. i tried breaking it up into smaller leagues but got resistance. you tried suggesting we only draft golds and silvers. that got resistance. everyone seems OK with a 12 team drafted league, but now you're showing resistance.there's not going to be a perfect solution for everyone! if we have a 12 team draft every team is going to have a weakness. the guy without a CB should have a FS and SS. The guy with 1 to 2 CB may not have a FS or SS or an OLB. its OK. its just for fun. the guy who has great DB's may not have any LB's and what happens when he runs up against a power running team? it's going to work itself out. you just aren't going to be able to build a perfect team. no one is. that's what makes this unique. it's going to be different. its OK.are you going to be OK with this?
:lmao:
 
before it gets to my pick, i will only be able to play league games during the week after 1200 am EST and good on Sundays. If thats a problem, i can bow out.
:shrug: I get home from work around 11:30 EST most weeknights minus the ones I have off.
 
im heading out... i have a lunch meeting aka basketball game i have to go to. i'll be back in an hour and a half.

 
Mesmashu said:
Zowned said:
:lmao: May be thin at those positions so if you want them draft them early.
this is what's going to neutralize the experienced players advantage. we can't use our perfected teams and will have to improvise. I'm really excited about this draft league and can't wait to see how it plays out! The shortage of certain positions adds a huge twist here.
It's not gonna work.There ARE 11 CB in this game.MOST PEOPLE HAVE TWO ON DEFENSE! YOU NEED 24 CBs for all 12 teams. That means 1 team will NOT have a legend CB, about 5 will not have a LEGEND FS, and about 6 will NOT HAVE A LEGEND SS! One person will be missing a legend OLB!That is not "neutralizing" that is nuetering the game.
so what's your solution?
QB: 10 - 6 - 19HB: 10 - 13 - 13FB: 1 - 2 - 2WR: 4 - 13 - 17TE: 4 - 6 - 3C: 2 - 2 - 3G: 3 - 3 - 4T: 5 - 7 - 4DT: 3 - 3 - 7 DE: 4 - 6 - 7 OLB: 2 - 2 - 7 = 11ILB: 4 - 4 - 9 CB: 4 - 4 - 3 = 11SS: 0 - 4 - 1 = 5FS: 3 - 3 - 4 = 10 K: 0 - 1 - 6P: 0 - 0 - 1Two suggestions....1) Gold and silver players are drafted only... allowing bronze to be hand picked.or2) Allow ALL defensive players to be draft 2 times. So there will be 22 OLBs available, 22 CBs, 10 SS, 20 FS. Still don't have enough for a every team to have the option of starting a LEGEND at every defensive position, but close enough. Still creates position disparity but gives all teams a fair chance of fielding a "team." I'm down for whatever the league wants to do, but if you guys keep it as is I can see the games all being 40 + pt games and taking 2 hours to complete b/c it will be long bomb after long bomb.
 
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Mesmashu said:
Zowned said:
:goodposting: May be thin at those positions so if you want them draft them early.
this is what's going to neutralize the experienced players advantage. we can't use our perfected teams and will have to improvise. I'm really excited about this draft league and can't wait to see how it plays out! The shortage of certain positions adds a huge twist here.
It's not gonna work.There ARE 11 CB in this game.MOST PEOPLE HAVE TWO ON DEFENSE! YOU NEED 24 CBs for all 12 teams. That means 1 team will NOT have a legend CB, about 5 will not have a LEGEND FS, and about 6 will NOT HAVE A LEGEND SS! One person will be missing a legend OLB!That is not "neutralizing" that is nuetering the game.
alright here's the problem. we have 12 guys with 12 different opinions. i tried breaking it up into smaller leagues but got resistance. you tried suggesting we only draft golds and silvers. that got resistance. everyone seems OK with a 12 team drafted league, but now you're showing resistance.there's not going to be a perfect solution for everyone! if we have a 12 team draft every team is going to have a weakness. the guy without a CB should have a FS and SS. The guy with 1 to 2 CB may not have a FS or SS or an OLB. its OK. its just for fun. the guy who has great DB's may not have any LB's and what happens when he runs up against a power running team? it's going to work itself out. you just aren't going to be able to build a perfect team. no one is. that's what makes this unique. it's going to be different. its OK.are you going to be OK with this?
I agree with this, but I want to know definatively what the draft rules are going to be (if any) before I make my pick. Everyone will have (had) the opportunity to draft at least one cornerback (given that the first two picks were non-CBs), so everyone is on an even playing field. If you decide not to draft a player in the secondary, that's your choice and you can build up other areas of your team.
 
Mesmashu said:
Zowned said:
:goodposting: May be thin at those positions so if you want them draft them early.
this is what's going to neutralize the experienced players advantage. we can't use our perfected teams and will have to improvise. I'm really excited about this draft league and can't wait to see how it plays out! The shortage of certain positions adds a huge twist here.
It's not gonna work.There ARE 11 CB in this game.MOST PEOPLE HAVE TWO ON DEFENSE! YOU NEED 24 CBs for all 12 teams. That means 1 team will NOT have a legend CB, about 5 will not have a LEGEND FS, and about 6 will NOT HAVE A LEGEND SS! One person will be missing a legend OLB!That is not "neutralizing" that is nuetering the game.
so what's your solution?
QB: 10 - 6 - 19HB: 10 - 13 - 13FB: 1 - 2 - 2WR: 4 - 13 - 17TE: 4 - 6 - 3C: 2 - 2 - 3G: 3 - 3 - 4T: 5 - 7 - 4DT: 3 - 3 - 7 DE: 4 - 6 - 7 OLB: 2 - 2 - 7 = 11ILB: 4 - 4 - 9 CB: 4 - 4 - 3 = 11SS: 0 - 4 - 1 = 5FS: 3 - 3 - 4 = 10 K: 0 - 1 - 6P: 0 - 0 - 1Two suggestions....1) Gold and silver players are drafted only... allowing bronze to be hand picked.or2) Allow ALL defensive players to be draft 2 times. So there will be 22 OLBs available, 22 CBs, 10 SS, 20 FS. Still don't have enough for a every team to have the option of starting a LEGEND at every defensive position, but close enough. Still creates position disparity but gives all teams a fair chance of fielding a "team." I'm down for whatever the league wants to do, but if you guys keep it as is I can see the games all being 40 + pt games and taking 2 hours to complete b/c it will be long bomb after long bomb.
I'm not a big fan of this idea b/c we are still going to wind up with a lot of talent overlap which is what the draft was designed to avoid.
 
Mesmashu said:
Zowned said:
:own3d: May be thin at those positions so if you want them draft them early.
this is what's going to neutralize the experienced players advantage. we can't use our perfected teams and will have to improvise. I'm really excited about this draft league and can't wait to see how it plays out! The shortage of certain positions adds a huge twist here.
It's not gonna work.There ARE 11 CB in this game.MOST PEOPLE HAVE TWO ON DEFENSE! YOU NEED 24 CBs for all 12 teams. That means 1 team will NOT have a legend CB, about 5 will not have a LEGEND FS, and about 6 will NOT HAVE A LEGEND SS! One person will be missing a legend OLB!That is not "neutralizing" that is nuetering the game.
so what's your solution?
QB: 10 - 6 - 19HB: 10 - 13 - 13FB: 1 - 2 - 2WR: 4 - 13 - 17TE: 4 - 6 - 3C: 2 - 2 - 3G: 3 - 3 - 4T: 5 - 7 - 4DT: 3 - 3 - 7 DE: 4 - 6 - 7 OLB: 2 - 2 - 7 = 11ILB: 4 - 4 - 9 CB: 4 - 4 - 3 = 11SS: 0 - 4 - 1 = 5FS: 3 - 3 - 4 = 10 K: 0 - 1 - 6P: 0 - 0 - 1Two suggestions....1) Gold and silver players are drafted only... allowing bronze to be hand picked.or2) Allow ALL defensive players to be draft 2 times. So there will be 22 OLBs available, 22 CBs, 10 SS, 20 FS. Still don't have enough for a every team to have the option of starting a LEGEND at every defensive position, but close enough. Still creates position disparity but gives all teams a fair chance of fielding a "team." I'm down for whatever the league wants to do, but if you guys keep it as is I can see the games all being 40 + pt games and taking 2 hours to complete b/c it will be long bomb after long bomb.
I'm not a big fan of this idea b/c we are still going to wind up with a lot of talent overlap which is what the draft was designed to avoid.
Talent overlap on defense which this game is lacking.Whateve ryou guys want, but don't be suprised if games take forever to finish and wind up being 50 pt games b/c you can pick on the other teams non-legend DBs.
 
What about only doubling the silver and bronze defensive positions? I don't think there should be 2 Butkus,m Woodson, Lott, etc.

Would make it

23 DT

30 DE

53

20 OLB

30 ILB

50

18 CB

10 SS

17 FS

45

That's 4 DL, 4 LB, 3-4 DB's per team and doesn't double on the gold star players.

 
What about only doubling the silver and bronze defensive positions? I don't think there should be 2 Butkus,m Woodson, Lott, etc.Would make it23 DT30 DE5320 OLB30 ILB5018 CB10 SS17 FS45That's 4 DL, 4 LB, 3-4 DB's per team and doesn't double on the gold star players.
Works for me. I said double ALL defensive positions but leaving out the golds works.
 
I would strongly prefer not to have any exceptions on the draft. I acknowledge that this may lead to higher scoring games than usual, but I also think this will help even out the skill level amongst all the players.

One partial remedy to the CB-remedy would be to set the league on "Legend" skill level which will bump up the skill level of the generics and make the passing game a little more difficult. (This would also help keep the scores down to more realistic levels.)

 
I would strongly prefer not to have any exceptions on the draft. I acknowledge that this may lead to higher scoring games than usual, but I also think this will help even out the skill level amongst all the players. One partial remedy to the CB-remedy would be to set the league on "Legend" skill level which will bump up the skill level of the generics and make the passing game a little more difficult. (This would also help keep the scores down to more realistic levels.)
i agree with this.
 
I would strongly prefer not to have any exceptions on the draft. I acknowledge that this may lead to higher scoring games than usual, but I also think this will help even out the skill level amongst all the players. One partial remedy to the CB-remedy would be to set the league on "Legend" skill level which will bump up the skill level of the generics and make the passing game a little more difficult. (This would also help keep the scores down to more realistic levels.)
i agree with this.
:football: We're also going to have to restart the draft if we change the rules at this point
 
I look at it this way, if you want CB's and there are only 11, you had better use your first few picks on them. That is where the strategy of the entire draft comes in. If you don't get any corners, build your other positions. Let's just draft for christ sakes.

 
I would strongly prefer not to have any exceptions on the draft. I acknowledge that this may lead to higher scoring games than usual, but I also think this will help even out the skill level amongst all the players. One partial remedy to the CB-remedy would be to set the league on "Legend" skill level which will bump up the skill level of the generics and make the passing game a little more difficult. (This would also help keep the scores down to more realistic levels.)
i agree with this.
:football: We're also going to have to restart the draft if we change the rules at this point
I'm good with keeping the current players with no doubling and seems zed, dude, sayhota, 16 is fine with it, orc, mesmashu so that's already 6 so can wait till smash gets back or what but it looks like we're sticking with each player being drafted once.
 
I look at it this way, if you want CB's and there are only 11, you had better use your first few picks on them. That is where the strategy of the entire draft comes in. If you don't get any corners, build your other positions. Let's just draft for christ sakes.
Correct and that's over half of us now with Green so continue with the draft zed
 
1.03 - Lem Barney, CB (silver)

:goodposting:

ETA: I make this pick based on NOT allowing the doubling of any players in the draft. If that is not the case, this whole thing has turned into a cluster####.

 
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1.03 - Lem Barney, CB (silver):bowtie:ETA: I make this pick based on NOT allowing the doubling of any players in the draft. If that is not the case, this whole thing has turned into a cluster####.
:jawdrop:
A Silver CB over a Gold?
Part of strategy. You only have 2 gold spots and can use them for offensive gold such as a QB or HB so he went with a silver CB to save that gold spot. You'll probably see this happen more. Should plan where you want to use your 2 gold spots before taking one at another position.
 
1.03 - Lem Barney, CB (silver):bowtie:ETA: I make this pick based on NOT allowing the doubling of any players in the draft. If that is not the case, this whole thing has turned into a cluster####.
:jawdrop:
A Silver CB over a Gold?
Part of strategy. You only have 2 gold spots and can use them for offensive gold such as a QB or HB so he went with a silver CB to save that gold spot. You'll probably see this happen more. Should plan where you want to use your 2 gold spots before taking one at another position.
ahhh.
 
1.03 - Lem Barney, CB (silver):unsure:ETA: I make this pick based on NOT allowing the doubling of any players in the draft. If that is not the case, this whole thing has turned into a cluster####.
:thumbup:
A Silver CB over a Gold?
Part of strategy. You only have 2 gold spots and can use them for offensive gold such as a QB or HB so he went with a silver CB to save that gold spot. You'll probably see this happen more. Should plan where you want to use your 2 gold spots before taking one at another position.
:yes:
 
Let's just get the draft going. I'm freakin pick #12.

And do not count me "fine" with the current draft rules, but I will tolerate it.

 
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1.03 - Lem Barney, CB (silver):bowtie:ETA: I make this pick based on NOT allowing the doubling of any players in the draft. If that is not the case, this whole thing has turned into a cluster####.
:unsure:
A Silver CB over a Gold?
Part of strategy. You only have 2 gold spots and can use them for offensive gold such as a QB or HB so he went with a silver CB to save that gold spot. You'll probably see this happen more. Should plan where you want to use your 2 gold spots before taking one at another position.
:yes:
:rolleyes: Very shark pick there.
 

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