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[Bonzai]

Obama needs to seriously regroup here.

Refocus on just McCain, and ignore Palin.

I liked Begala's ideas on This Week....ads against McCain on the economy, his being out of touch, and current loss of honor (given his negative attacks).

If McCain/Palin win this, it will be another 8 years of a mess, 4 more super conservative supreme court judges. I can't believe America will fall for this again after these last 8 years. Seeing blue collar, middle class Americans with worse economic situation vote for the Republicans (whose fiscal policies have pounded them the last 8 years) because of jingoism, Palin love, is sad.

This Week mentioned that undecided blue collar voters in Michigan/Ohio/Wisconson in polling are solid Democrat in local election, State election, Senator, Governor, but remain undecided for president. Hinted that it might be racial. They commented that Obama will lose this undecided vote in Michigan/Ohio/Wisonsin by 70%.....pathetic....

This is already done.

The amount of Palin talk here is undeniable. Obama needs to get Pickles on the horn and get this thing turned around.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Obama needs to seriously regroup here.

Refocus on just McCain, and ignore Palin.

I liked Begala's ideas on This Week....ads against McCain on the economy, his being out of touch, and current loss of honor (given his negative attacks).

If McCain/Palin win this, it will be another 8 years of a mess, 4 more super conservative supreme court judges. I can't believe America will fall for this again after these last 8 years. Seeing blue collar, middle class Americans with worse economic situation vote for the Republicans (whose fiscal policies have pounded them the last 8 years) because of jingoism, Palin love, is sad.

This Week mentioned that undecided blue collar voters in Michigan/Ohio/Wisconson in polling are solid Democrat in local election, State election, Senator, Governor, but remain undecided for president. Hinted that it might be racial. They commented that Obama will lose this undecided vote in Michigan/Ohio/Wisonsin by 70%.....pathetic....

This is already done.

The amount of Palin talk here is undeniable. Obama needs to get Pickles on the horn and get this thing turned around.

Yeah, we're talking about it here, but I haven't heard Obama or Biden talk about her since last week. I think they're past it for the most part.

 

[Bonzai]

Obama needs to seriously regroup here.

Refocus on just McCain, and ignore Palin.

I liked Begala's ideas on This Week....ads against McCain on the economy, his being out of touch, and current loss of honor (given his negative attacks).

If McCain/Palin win this, it will be another 8 years of a mess, 4 more super conservative supreme court judges. I can't believe America will fall for this again after these last 8 years. Seeing blue collar, middle class Americans with worse economic situation vote for the Republicans (whose fiscal policies have pounded them the last 8 years) because of jingoism, Palin love, is sad.

This Week mentioned that undecided blue collar voters in Michigan/Ohio/Wisconson in polling are solid Democrat in local election, State election, Senator, Governor, but remain undecided for president. Hinted that it might be racial. They commented that Obama will lose this undecided vote in Michigan/Ohio/Wisonsin by 70%.....pathetic....

This is already done.

The amount of Palin talk here is undeniable. Obama needs to get Pickles on the horn and get this thing turned around.

Yeah, we're talking about it here, but I haven't heard Obama or Biden talk about her since last week. I think they're past it for the most part.

Totally.I just get a rise out of folks that see Palin's mug on cable news, or a thread in the FFA, or a skit on snl and conclude that, "Obama is focusing on Palin". It's weird.

 

[Fennis]

Obama needs to seriously regroup here.

Refocus on just McCain, and ignore Palin.

I liked Begala's ideas on This Week....ads against McCain on the economy, his being out of touch, and current loss of honor (given his negative attacks).

If McCain/Palin win this, it will be another 8 years of a mess, 4 more super conservative supreme court judges. I can't believe America will fall for this again after these last 8 years. Seeing blue collar, middle class Americans with worse economic situation vote for the Republicans (whose fiscal policies have pounded them the last 8 years) because of jingoism, Palin love, is sad.

This Week mentioned that undecided blue collar voters in Michigan/Ohio/Wisconson in polling are solid Democrat in local election, State election, Senator, Governor, but remain undecided for president. Hinted that it might be racial. They commented that Obama will lose this undecided vote in Michigan/Ohio/Wisonsin by 70%.....pathetic....

This is already done.

The amount of Palin talk here is undeniable. Obama needs to get Pickles on the horn and get this thing turned around.

Yeah, we're talking about it here, but I haven't heard Obama or Biden talk about her since last week. I think they're past it for the most part.

Totally.I just get a rise out of folks that see Palin's mug on cable news, or a thread in the FFA, or a skit on snl and conclude that, "Obama is focusing on Palin". It's weird.

Did you just disagree before you agreed?

 

[Bonzai]

Obama needs to seriously regroup here.

Refocus on just McCain, and ignore Palin.

I liked Begala's ideas on This Week....ads against McCain on the economy, his being out of touch, and current loss of honor (given his negative attacks).

If McCain/Palin win this, it will be another 8 years of a mess, 4 more super conservative supreme court judges. I can't believe America will fall for this again after these last 8 years. Seeing blue collar, middle class Americans with worse economic situation vote for the Republicans (whose fiscal policies have pounded them the last 8 years) because of jingoism, Palin love, is sad.

This Week mentioned that undecided blue collar voters in Michigan/Ohio/Wisconson in polling are solid Democrat in local election, State election, Senator, Governor, but remain undecided for president. Hinted that it might be racial. They commented that Obama will lose this undecided vote in Michigan/Ohio/Wisonsin by 70%.....pathetic....

This is already done.

The amount of Palin talk here is undeniable. Obama needs to get Pickles on the horn and get this thing turned around.

Yeah, we're talking about it here, but I haven't heard Obama or Biden talk about her since last week. I think they're past it for the most part.

Totally.I just get a rise out of folks that see Palin's mug on cable news, or a thread in the FFA, or a skit on snl and conclude that, "Obama is focusing on Palin". It's weird.

Did you just disagree before you agreed?

Yeah. At first I thought it was a really good idea for Obama to give a frequent fantasy football message board poster a call so that they could come together to tone down the Palin talk in the FFA in an attempt to win the election for the democracts. But then Homer changed my mind.

 

[Fennis]

Obama needs to seriously regroup here.

Refocus on just McCain, and ignore Palin.

I liked Begala's ideas on This Week....ads against McCain on the economy, his being out of touch, and current loss of honor (given his negative attacks).

If McCain/Palin win this, it will be another 8 years of a mess, 4 more super conservative supreme court judges. I can't believe America will fall for this again after these last 8 years. Seeing blue collar, middle class Americans with worse economic situation vote for the Republicans (whose fiscal policies have pounded them the last 8 years) because of jingoism, Palin love, is sad.

This Week mentioned that undecided blue collar voters in Michigan/Ohio/Wisconson in polling are solid Democrat in local election, State election, Senator, Governor, but remain undecided for president. Hinted that it might be racial. They commented that Obama will lose this undecided vote in Michigan/Ohio/Wisonsin by 70%.....pathetic....

This is already done.

The amount of Palin talk here is undeniable. Obama needs to get Pickles on the horn and get this thing turned around.

Yeah, we're talking about it here, but I haven't heard Obama or Biden talk about her since last week. I think they're past it for the most part.

Totally.I just get a rise out of folks that see Palin's mug on cable news, or a thread in the FFA, or a skit on snl and conclude that, "Obama is focusing on Palin". It's weird.

Did you just disagree before you agreed?

Yeah. At first I thought it was a really good idea for Obama to give a frequent fantasy football message board poster a call so that they could come together to tone down the Palin talk in the FFA in an attempt to win the election for the democracts. But then Homer changed my mind.

Thats why I supported Homer for VP instead of that joker Biden.

 

[Bonzai]

Obama needs to seriously regroup here.

Refocus on just McCain, and ignore Palin.

I liked Begala's ideas on This Week....ads against McCain on the economy, his being out of touch, and current loss of honor (given his negative attacks).

If McCain/Palin win this, it will be another 8 years of a mess, 4 more super conservative supreme court judges. I can't believe America will fall for this again after these last 8 years. Seeing blue collar, middle class Americans with worse economic situation vote for the Republicans (whose fiscal policies have pounded them the last 8 years) because of jingoism, Palin love, is sad.

This Week mentioned that undecided blue collar voters in Michigan/Ohio/Wisconson in polling are solid Democrat in local election, State election, Senator, Governor, but remain undecided for president. Hinted that it might be racial. They commented that Obama will lose this undecided vote in Michigan/Ohio/Wisonsin by 70%.....pathetic....

This is already done.

The amount of Palin talk here is undeniable. Obama needs to get Pickles on the horn and get this thing turned around.

Yeah, we're talking about it here, but I haven't heard Obama or Biden talk about her since last week. I think they're past it for the most part.

Totally.I just get a rise out of folks that see Palin's mug on cable news, or a thread in the FFA, or a skit on snl and conclude that, "Obama is focusing on Palin". It's weird.

Did you just disagree before you agreed?

Yeah. At first I thought it was a really good idea for Obama to give a frequent fantasy football message board poster a call so that they could come together to tone down the Palin talk in the FFA in an attempt to win the election for the democracts. But then Homer changed my mind.

Thats why I supported Homer for VP instead of that joker Biden.

He has a way..

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Obama needs to seriously regroup here.

Refocus on just McCain, and ignore Palin.

I liked Begala's ideas on This Week....ads against McCain on the economy, his being out of touch, and current loss of honor (given his negative attacks).

If McCain/Palin win this, it will be another 8 years of a mess, 4 more super conservative supreme court judges. I can't believe America will fall for this again after these last 8 years. Seeing blue collar, middle class Americans with worse economic situation vote for the Republicans (whose fiscal policies have pounded them the last 8 years) because of jingoism, Palin love, is sad.

This Week mentioned that undecided blue collar voters in Michigan/Ohio/Wisconson in polling are solid Democrat in local election, State election, Senator, Governor, but remain undecided for president. Hinted that it might be racial. They commented that Obama will lose this undecided vote in Michigan/Ohio/Wisonsin by 70%.....pathetic....

This is already done.

The amount of Palin talk here is undeniable. Obama needs to get Pickles on the horn and get this thing turned around.

Yeah, we're talking about it here, but I haven't heard Obama or Biden talk about her since last week. I think they're past it for the most part.

Totally.I just get a rise out of folks that see Palin's mug on cable news, or a thread in the FFA, or a skit on snl and conclude that, "Obama is focusing on Palin". It's weird.

Did you just disagree before you agreed?

Yeah. At first I thought it was a really good idea for Obama to give a frequent fantasy football message board poster a call so that they could come together to tone down the Palin talk in the FFA in an attempt to win the election for the democracts. But then Homer changed my mind.

Thats why I supported Homer for VP instead of that joker Biden.

He has a way..

Our foreign policy ties with Asia would reach unprecedented levels of "international cooperation".

 

[Bonzai]

Obama needs to seriously regroup here.

Refocus on just McCain, and ignore Palin.

I liked Begala's ideas on This Week....ads against McCain on the economy, his being out of touch, and current loss of honor (given his negative attacks).

If McCain/Palin win this, it will be another 8 years of a mess, 4 more super conservative supreme court judges. I can't believe America will fall for this again after these last 8 years. Seeing blue collar, middle class Americans with worse economic situation vote for the Republicans (whose fiscal policies have pounded them the last 8 years) because of jingoism, Palin love, is sad.

This Week mentioned that undecided blue collar voters in Michigan/Ohio/Wisconson in polling are solid Democrat in local election, State election, Senator, Governor, but remain undecided for president. Hinted that it might be racial. They commented that Obama will lose this undecided vote in Michigan/Ohio/Wisonsin by 70%.....pathetic....

This is already done.

The amount of Palin talk here is undeniable. Obama needs to get Pickles on the horn and get this thing turned around.

Yeah, we're talking about it here, but I haven't heard Obama or Biden talk about her since last week. I think they're past it for the most part.

Totally.I just get a rise out of folks that see Palin's mug on cable news, or a thread in the FFA, or a skit on snl and conclude that, "Obama is focusing on Palin". It's weird.

Did you just disagree before you agreed?

Yeah. At first I thought it was a really good idea for Obama to give a frequent fantasy football message board poster a call so that they could come together to tone down the Palin talk in the FFA in an attempt to win the election for the democracts. But then Homer changed my mind.

Thats why I supported Homer for VP instead of that joker Biden.

He has a way..

Our foreign policy ties with Asia would reach unprecedented levels of "international cooperation".

...and shore up the youth vote!

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Our foreign policy ties with Asia would reach unprecedented levels of "international cooperation".

...and shore up the youth vote!

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Vote McCain: Because Obama is too old!

 

[quickhands]

Vote McCain: Because Obama is too old!

Obama would actually respond to this.

"And now John McCain says he's more youthful than me....That's like calling the same thing....something else. (why's everybody laughing?)"

 

[jdoggydogg]

What a ####ing jerk this woman is. The guy that was raised by a single mother in Chicago is the elitist but the millionaire with nine houses is the common man?

Prominent Clinton backer and DNC member to endorse McCain

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.

The announcement will take place at a news conference on Capitol Hill, just blocks away from the DNC headquarters. Forester will “campaign and help him through the election,” the spokesman said of her plans to help the Republican presidential nominee.

In an interview with CNN this summer, Forester did not hide her distaste for eventual Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. “This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

 

[Statorama]

What a ####ing jerk this woman is. The guy that was raised by a single mother in Chicago is the elitist but the millionaire with nine houses is the common man?

Prominent Clinton backer and DNC member to endorse McCain

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.

The announcement will take place at a news conference on Capitol Hill, just blocks away from the DNC headquarters. Forester will “campaign and help him through the election,” the spokesman said of her plans to help the Republican presidential nominee.

In an interview with CNN this summer, Forester did not hide her distaste for eventual Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. “This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

Welcome aboard the Straight Talk Express, Lynn

 

[jdoggydogg]

I fear that Obama will lose this election. He's younger, taller, a better speaker - all the facets that normally give a Presidential candidate an edge. But I think people are going to vote for the white guy.

I am certain that if/when the Dems lose this election we will hear pundits spew the same pablum we hear every election cycle: the Dems blew another election, the Dems can't run a campaign, blah blah blah. Fact is, plenty of idiots vote based on 30 second TV ads and nothing more. If the Dems magically discovered the mysterious G spot that would get Obama elected, that would be surprising to me.

Salmon Rushdie said to Bill Maher the other night that he is optimistic that people will rise up and vote for Obama and he will win. Maher said, "I don't want to tear down your theory, but 61% of Americans really believe that a guy escaped a flood and brought together two of every animal and insect and got them to #### on a boat."

I am not depressed at the thought of a McCain white house. How could he do a worse job than Bush? I am just having a hard time trying to talk myself out of the notion that there are several millions of idiots in this country that vote for the guy they want to have a beer with above all else.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

What a ####ing jerk this woman is. The guy that was raised by a single mother in Chicago is the elitist but the millionaire with nine houses is the common man?

Prominent Clinton backer and DNC member to endorse McCain

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.

The announcement will take place at a news conference on Capitol Hill, just blocks away from the DNC headquarters. Forester will “campaign and help him through the election,” the spokesman said of her plans to help the Republican presidential nominee.

In an interview with CNN this summer, Forester did not hide her distaste for eventual Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. “This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

Mrs. Rothschild calling someone elitist?

 

[fluorescent walkway]

What a ####ing jerk this woman is. The guy that was raised by a single mother in Chicago is the elitist but the millionaire with nine houses is the common man?

Prominent Clinton backer and DNC member to endorse McCain

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.

The announcement will take place at a news conference on Capitol Hill, just blocks away from the DNC headquarters. Forester will “campaign and help him through the election,” the spokesman said of her plans to help the Republican presidential nominee.

In an interview with CNN this summer, Forester did not hide her distaste for eventual Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama. “This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

Mrs. Rothschild calling someone elitist?

The "de" in front of her last name gives her some street cred, right?

 

[Spiderman]

This high ranking Hillary supporter and Democrat who is going to come out for McCain is an expert on the economy and a CEO, and her husband is an investment banker. I'm guessing they have a solid idea of whose plan would be better for the economy and they are not going with their own candidate, Barack Obama. That is huge.

Secondly, this $85 billion loan is double what was anticipated, but the reason is because it is a two year loan that's only purpose is to keep AIG afloat long enough so it can sell off its assets and get a fair price for them. This company essentially was given the electric chair and in 2010, it will cease to exist.

Obama may have some more problems coming. It appears that he took campaign contributions totaling $100K this year from Freddie and Fannie, at the same time blaming the Republicans for the steering of these companies and their collapse. Also, it appears that the guy leading the VP search for Obama was a former CEO of Fannie Mae and one of the fixtures in the leadership that drove the company into the ground, all the while, he was taking nearly $100 million from them in salary and options. Obama has massive ties to these two groups that are about to come blasting into the front of the crowd of other issues swirling around his head.

The Obama news continues to be horrible every single day. Before he can climb out of one issue, its another...and another...and another...and another.

 

[fluorescent walkway]

This high ranking Hillary supporter and Democrat who is going to come out for McCain is an expert on the economy and a CEO, and her husband is an investment banker. I'm guessing they have a solid idea of whose plan would be better for the economy and they are not going with their own candidate, Barack Obama. That is huge.

:dropstoknees:NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

:sobsindespair:

 

[Clayton Gray]

Barack on the financial crisis

 

[ElGatoLoco]

...

I am not depressed at the thought of a McCain white house. How could he do a worse job than Bush? I am just having a hard time trying to talk myself out of the notion that there are several millions of idiots in this country that vote for the guy they want to have a beer with above all else.

I'm not depressed either, but I am a little scared.

 

[Running with scissors]

Obama needs to seriously regroup here.

Refocus on just McCain, and ignore Palin.

I liked Begala's ideas on This Week....ads against McCain on the economy, his being out of touch, and current loss of honor (given his negative attacks).

If McCain/Palin win this, it will be another 8 years of a mess, 4 more super conservative supreme court judges. I can't believe America will fall for this again after these last 8 years. Seeing blue collar, middle class Americans with worse economic situation vote for the Republicans (whose fiscal policies have pounded them the last 8 years) because of jingoism, Palin love, is sad.

This Week mentioned that undecided blue collar voters in Michigan/Ohio/Wisconson in polling are solid Democrat in local election, State election, Senator, Governor, but remain undecided for president. Hinted that it might be racial. They commented that Obama will lose this undecided vote in Michigan/Ohio/Wisonsin by 70%.....pathetic....

This is already done.

The amount of Palin talk here is undeniable. Obama needs to get Pickles on the horn and get this thing turned around.

Yeah, we're talking about it here, but I haven't heard Obama or Biden talk about her since last week. I think they're past it for the most part.

Totally.I just get a rise out of folks that see Palin's mug on cable news, or a thread in the FFA, or a skit on snl and conclude that, "Obama is focusing on Palin". It's weird.

Did you just disagree before you agreed?

Yeah. At first I thought it was a really good idea for Obama to give a frequent fantasy football message board poster a call so that they could come together to tone down the Palin talk in the FFA in an attempt to win the election for the democracts. But then Homer changed my mind.

Thats why I supported Homer for VP instead of that joker Biden.

He has a way..

Our foreign policy ties with Asia would reach unprecedented levels of "international cooperation".

I would like to invite myself to your Thailand junket please Mr. Vice President.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Our foreign policy ties with Asia would reach unprecedented levels of "international cooperation".

I would like to invite myself to your Thailand junket please Mr. Vice President.

Oops, scissors.OK, but you have to be in a separate room.

 

[Running with scissors]

Should we be keeping some sort of tally of conservatives that are coming out for Obama lately?

Add Wick Allison

Barack Obama is not my ideal candidate for president. (In fact, I made the maximum donation to John McCain during the primaries, when there was still hope he might come to his senses.) But I now see that Obama is almost the ideal candidate for this moment in American history. I disagree with him on many issues. But those don’t matter as much as what Obama offers, which is a deeply conservative view of the world. Nobody can read Obama’s books (which, it is worth noting, he wrote himself) or listen to him speak without realizing that this is a thoughtful, pragmatic, and prudent man. It gives me comfort just to think that after eight years of George W. Bush we will have a president who has actually read the Federalist Papers.

Most important, Obama will be a realist. I doubt he will taunt Russia, as McCain has, at the very moment when our national interest requires it as an ally. The crucial distinction in my mind is that, unlike John McCain, I am convinced he will not impulsively take us into another war unless American national interests are directly threatened.

 

[Clayton Gray]

Should we be keeping some sort of tally of conservatives that are coming out for Obama lately?

Former L.A. Mayor crosses party lines, endorses Obama

Former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, a Republican, is backing Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama and attended a high-profile Beverly Hills fundraiser for the candidate last night. He explained to KCAL-TV why he had crossed party lines. "I think he's a much more open person," Riordan said as he arrived at the event, which featured a performance by Barbra Streisand. "He's young, he has more energy, more electricity." Riordan, who served two terms in City Hall from 1993 to 2001, also had some choice words on his past dealings with Obama's opponent, U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). "When I was mayor I had dealings with McCain where I didn't respect him," Riordan said. Obama raised nearly $11 million at the event, according to The New York Times, setting a new one-night record for the campaign.

 

[LordHusker]

Obama slightly ahead in all polls again. Economy self-destructing. Media beginning to expose McCain and Palin's blatant BS statements.

I don't have a crystal ball, but ...

 

[Statorama]

Russia to sell arms to Obama's buddies in Iran

While Obama suggests we "talk" to Iran, they are building up an arsenal to destroy Israel.

Guys, I know it's fun to think about Obama sending us a welfare check and free health care like they get in Cuba, but come on. There are real lives at stake here.

 

[Running with scissors]

Russia to sell arms to Obama's buddies in Iran

While Obama suggests we "talk" to Iran, they are building up an arsenal to destroy Israel.

Guys, I know it's fun to think about Obama sending us a welfare check and free health care like they get in Cuba, but come on. There are real lives at stake here.

I'm sorry, Gopher State still has my favorite political shtick on this board, but you are rising fast.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

This high ranking Hillary supporter and Democrat who is going to come out for McCain is an expert on the economy and a CEO, and her husband is an investment banker. I'm guessing they have a solid idea of whose plan would be better for the economy and they are not going with their own candidate, Barack Obama. That is huge.

:dropstoknees:NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

:sobsindespair:

Steve Doocy said so himself. It's huge.

 

[Fennis]

Should we be keeping some sort of tally of conservatives that are coming out for Obama lately?

Former L.A. Mayor crosses party lines, endorses Obama

Former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, a Republican, is backing Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama and attended a high-profile Beverly Hills fundraiser for the candidate last night. He explained to KCAL-TV why he had crossed party lines. "I think he's a much more open person," Riordan said as he arrived at the event, which featured a performance by Barbra Streisand. "He's young, he has more energy, more electricity." Riordan, who served two terms in City Hall from 1993 to 2001, also had some choice words on his past dealings with Obama's opponent, U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). "When I was mayor I had dealings with McCain where I didn't respect him," Riordan said. Obama raised nearly $11 million at the event, according to The New York Times, setting a new one-night record for the campaign.

Riordan did a good job as mayor. He was a bigtime backer of Schwarzenegger.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Russia to sell arms to Obama's buddies in Iran

While Obama suggests we "talk" to Iran, they are building up an arsenal to destroy Israel.

Guys, I know it's fun to think about Obama sending us a welfare check and free health care like they get in Cuba, but come on. There are real lives at stake here.

It's in Russia's interest for instability in the Middle East as this drives up oil prices. No surprise here.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Obama raises the 'Dead' LINK - scroll down

The four surviving members of the Grateful Dead will play a Pennsylvania fundraiser for Barack Obama October 13.

The Penn State "Change Rocks" concert will feature Bob Weir, Phil Lesh, Bill Kreutzmann and Mickey Hart, along with Gregg Allman and other rockers.

A well-informed friend tells me it's "a big deal for Deadheads" and the first full reunion of hte band's surviving members since 2004, though there was a "Deadheads for Obama" event in February featuring three of the four.

The music magazine Relix reports that "given the event’s political slant, the various musicians are being billed under their own names instead of The Dead and the Allman Brothers Band."

By Ben Smith 05:01 PM

 

[Gr00vus]

No that people will care much, but I've decided - I"m all in for Obama. This country can't afford McCain and his faulty decision making after what it's been through the last 8 years.

I encourage you all who haven't done so to volunteer for the Obama campaign - I'll be doing so along with a campaign donation by the end of the weekend. I think I'll be participating in one of the "drive for change" events coming up in October.

Let's not sit on our asses and let an obviously superior candidate get passed over again this election.

 

[fluorescent walkway]

Should we be keeping some sort of tally of conservatives that are coming out for Obama lately?

Former L.A. Mayor crosses party lines, endorses Obama

Former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, a Republican, is backing Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama and attended a high-profile Beverly Hills fundraiser for the candidate last night. He explained to KCAL-TV why he had crossed party lines. "I think he's a much more open person," Riordan said as he arrived at the event, which featured a performance by Barbra Streisand. "He's young, he has more energy, more electricity." Riordan, who served two terms in City Hall from 1993 to 2001, also had some choice words on his past dealings with Obama's opponent, U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). "When I was mayor I had dealings with McCain where I didn't respect him," Riordan said. Obama raised nearly $11 million at the event, according to The New York Times, setting a new one-night record for the campaign.

So is this huge?

 

[adonis]

No that people will care much, but I've decided - I"m all in for Obama. This country can't afford McCain and his faulty decision making after what it's been through the last 8 years.I encourage you all who haven't done so to volunteer for the Obama campaign - I'll be doing so along with a campaign donation by the end of the weekend. I think I'll be participating in one of the "drive for change" events coming up in October.Let's not sit on our asses and let an obviously superior candidate get passed over again this election.

Welcome aboard.

 

[Sammy3469]

Quite possibly my favorite Palin story yet:

Sarah Palin likes to tell voters around the country about how she “put the government checkbook online” in Alaska. On Thursday, Palin suggested she would take that same proposal to Washington.

“We’re going to do a few new things also,” she said at a rally in Cedar Rapids. “For instance, as Alaska’s governor, I put the government’s checkbook online so that people can see where their money’s going. We’ll bring that kind of transparency, that responsibility, and accountability back. We’re going to bring that back to D.C.”

There’s just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online – somebody’s already done it. His name is Barack Obama.

"Ouch"

 

[dancingbones]

Quite possibly my favorite Palin story yet:

Sarah Palin likes to tell voters around the country about how she “put the government checkbook online” in Alaska. On Thursday, Palin suggested she would take that same proposal to Washington.

“We’re going to do a few new things also,” she said at a rally in Cedar Rapids. “For instance, as Alaska’s governor, I put the government’s checkbook online so that people can see where their money’s going. We’ll bring that kind of transparency, that responsibility, and accountability back. We’re going to bring that back to D.C.”

There’s just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online – somebody’s already done it. His name is Barack Obama.

"Ouch"

UPDATE: A campaign spokesperson insisted that Palin was referring not to that specific proposal, but rather to "that kind of transparency in general."

 

[Gr00vus]

Should we be keeping some sort of tally of conservatives that are coming out for Obama lately?

Former L.A. Mayor crosses party lines, endorses Obama

Former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, a Republican, is backing Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama and attended a high-profile Beverly Hills fundraiser for the candidate last night. He explained to KCAL-TV why he had crossed party lines. "I think he's a much more open person," Riordan said as he arrived at the event, which featured a performance by Barbra Streisand. "He's young, he has more energy, more electricity." Riordan, who served two terms in City Hall from 1993 to 2001, also had some choice words on his past dealings with Obama's opponent, U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). "When I was mayor I had dealings with McCain where I didn't respect him," Riordan said. Obama raised nearly $11 million at the event, according to The New York Times, setting a new one-night record for the campaign.

So is this huge?

I think it's a pretty big deal. Riordan's been a dead red Republican FOREVER. As an L.A. County resident I've been exposed to his whole career here. I'm pretty shocked that he's publicly endorsed Obama, it makes me wonder if it's a purely opportunist move - but if so it'd indicate he's got an interesting sense of which way the wind is blowing. Even more interesting is his comment on McCain - particularly because it's the same message you hear from many, many people who've had to deal with him in this arena, such as Ross Perot. There's an angle to be played here by the Obama campaign, I'm hoping they're just saving it up for the stretch drive.

 

[fluorescent walkway]

Quite possibly my favorite Palin story yet:

Sarah Palin likes to tell voters around the country about how she “put the government checkbook online” in Alaska. On Thursday, Palin suggested she would take that same proposal to Washington.

“We’re going to do a few new things also,” she said at a rally in Cedar Rapids. “For instance, as Alaska’s governor, I put the government’s checkbook online so that people can see where their money’s going. We’ll bring that kind of transparency, that responsibility, and accountability back. We’re going to bring that back to D.C.”

There’s just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online – somebody’s already done it. His name is Barack Obama.

"Ouch"

UPDATE: A campaign spokesperson insisted that Palin was referring not to that specific proposal, but rather to "that kind of transparency in general."

Like, Obama's worldview, right?

 

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Election Reset September 18 - campaign and electoral college analysis

September 18, 2008

Meet the New Map--Same as the Old Map (Almost)

By Larry Sabato

In early summer, the Crystal Ball took its first look at the likely November 4th Electoral College map. Our assessment was that, in the College at least, the contest appeared close. John McCain had 174 solid or likely electoral votes to Barack Obama's 200 solid or likely. The lead switched once we added in states that were "leaning" to one or the other: McCain had 227 votes to Obama's 212, with 270 needed for election. Fully 99 electoral votes in eight other states (CO, MI, NH, NV, OH, PA, VA, and WI) remained in the toss-up category.

We based our map not just on current polling but also the recent historical record in presidential elections. To some degree, this explained the differences between our map and those of some other analysts. As we revise it in this essay, we will once again add a dose of history to current trends, and at least tentatively, we will attempt to narrow the number of toss-ups.

Just think about all that has happened since early July. Obama took his European trip, hailed in some quarters and condemned in others. The McCain campaign came alive for the first time in months, attacking Obama as "the biggest celebrity in the world" after his travels---a hint of the strategy that was to come. Polls narrowed between Obama and McCain, as Obama lost some of his earlier luster. The Democratic Convention in Denver temporarily revived Obama's survey numbers, producing a small convention bounce, mainly on the strength of Obama's closing night speech. Much of the rest of the week had been consumed by intrigue about what the Clintons would or would not do, and Obama's choice of Joe Biden as Veep-nominee was met with general approval but no special enthusiasm. It avoided any controversy but was not, in the overused term of 2008, a "game changer".

Then the presidential contest got its real shake-up. McCain and his staff had not been fooled by the polls that suggested he was gaining on Obama. The underlying, fundamental factors of this election year are strongly Democratic: a highly unpopular Republican president, a deteriorating economy in significant ways, a foreign war most Americans believe should not have been fought, and an enthusiasm gap between the parties that was producing record Democratic donations and voter registrations. McCain was on track to score a respectable second-place finish, the usual fate of candidates of the incumbent party who try to win a third consecutive term.

Always a gambler, McCain rolled the dice and selected a nearly unknown governor of Alaska. Despite scant experience in foreign affairs and on the national stage, Sarah Palin electrified the conservative base of the GOP. Never happy with the maverick McCain, the base recognized that Palin held their views on abortion, guns, creationism, and other social issues. Moreover, Palin shattered the stifling stereotype of the Republican party as the home of 'old white males'. She was young, attractive, dynamic, and plain spoken. The campaign called her a 'reform governor', reinforcing part of McCain's image, and instantly, the McCain-Palin ticket became another way for voters to cast a ballot for change. Palin's potential historic first neutralized somewhat Obama's; her age (44) was even younger than Obama's (47), projecting future-orientation. McCain gave up some of his advantage on experience over Obama---since Palin could hardly be termed more knowledgeable about government than Obama (except by predictable partisans who will always find their nominee's scant resume fuller than the other party's scant one)---but the experience theme wasn't working for McCain anyway.

We won't know for sure whether Palin was fully vetted by the McCain campaign until the post-election books are published, though it certainly looks as though she was not, given the results of various press investigations over the past couple of weeks. Recent history underlines the dangers for the campaign in this. The last two 'surprise' VP nominees were disasters for their parties (Democrat Geraldine Ferraro in 1984 and Republican Dan Quayle in 1988), in part because the campaign itself and party elders knew too little to defend the VP nominees from attack. But McCain's staff learned something from the earlier examples, especially Quayle's. Journalists can be counted upon to do their duty, as they see it, and ask a lot of uncomfortable questions about an obscure nominee who might be suddenly thrust into the most powerful office on earth. They will search relentlessly for negative information, and competitively publish and air it as soon as possible. Yet the campaign knew that Republicans hate the mainstream media. Nothing would set the grassroots on fire like a media firestorm about Palin. Presto! Both the media and the GOP base responded in predictable Pavlovian fashion, and for the first time ever, McCain became the hero of the Republican Right, alongside Palin. McCain is now actually free of the need to tend to the conservative base, enabling him to go hunting for the more moderate swing independents who will actually determine the election.

Combined with McCain's convention bounce, Palin's strength among the base, and according to some (but not all) polls, her ability to attract a percentage of white women away from Obama, produced the first sustained, narrow McCain lead of the campaign. As this is written, tracking polls suggest that this bounce has flattened considerably, perhaps entirely.

Whatever the short term picture, McCain is well aware that he has a mountain to climb. When the Palin effect dies down, as all such political phenomena eventually do, he will still have to contend with the albatrosses of Bush, the economy, and (to some degree) Iraq. The financial meltdown of the past week, shocking and appalling to virtually everyone regardless of political philosophy, has given Obama his first real general election opening to return the campaign to Democratic themes. A relieved Obama can be expected to capitalize on American capitalism's deep troubles, as would any candidate in his position.

To win, McCain must keep Obama on the defensive, and for a couple of weeks he did that. McCain and his staff understand that in this environment, he cannot win with a high-minded campaign enveloped in glittering patriotic generalities. McCain must undermine Obama at every turn, unceasingly creating doubts about the Democrat so that McCain becomes the default 'change' candidate once a majority of voters have decided that Obama is not the change they desire. In a very different time of peace and prosperity and a popular incumbent Republican president, George H.W. Bush accomplished precisely this, presenting himself as the 'kinder, gentler' successor to Ronald Reagan and tagging Michael Dukakis as the unacceptable anti-flag, friendly-to-criminals, pro-ACLU candidate. In 1988 Americans chose Bush's change of emphasis rather than the more drastic philosophical change seemingly embodied by Dukakis.

The Dukakis name is being bandied about now, not by Republicans but by Democrats. In the pit of their anguished stomachs, Democrats fear they are seeing an old movie play out yet again, one they were forced to watch in 1988 (Dukakis), 2000 (Gore), and 2004 (Kerry). For the fourth time, say these Democrats, they have a high-minded nominee who won't fight back, won't gut punch, and refuses to believe that voters will buy the negative attacks being launched against him. The Obama campaign leaders have called these Democrats 'handwringers' and 'bedwetters', and they may be right. If the Obama team has indeed done the job they claim in voter registration and fundraising, they may be able to ride out the current storms and win when it counts---especially given the pro-Democratic electoral conditions. On the other hand, with the first African-American presidential nominee, they still must worry about racial leakage on Election Day. There isn't a person in the country who can truly measure that effect in advance.

One thing is for sure: If Democrats cannot win in a year like this, when can they win? If American history is the guide, the 2008 election shouldn't be close---and yet it appears to be, at least in mid-September. Appearances can be deceiving, though, and a collapsing financial superstructure can only help the out-of-power party's nominee.

In a practical sense, the election is not near to being won by either side. Fundamental factors aside, campaigns are won day by day, in the trenches. More will happen in the next seven weeks than has occurred in the past seven months. The debates are sure to draw record audiences, and the TV ads and the ground mobilizations will be of a number and intensity never before witnessed. The remaining 46 days will tell the tale.

So let's move to the Electoral College. National surveys are fun but unrevealing. Obama is back on top narrowly, after a couple of weeks with McCain in the lead. As long as the national polls have Obama and McCain close to one another, it is really what happens in the individual leaning and toss-up states that matters.

The Electoral College appears to be closing up. Those partisans who dreamed that the nation would break the Red-and-Blue mold of 2000 and 2004 might be headed for disappointment---assuming the current economic trends do not break the contest wide open in a Democratic direction. McCain is not going to carry more than a couple of Blue states (at most), and Obama is unlikely to win more than a handful of Red states. We now are fairly certain that a minimum of 42 states will keep the same partisan color that they chose in 2004. We would not be shocked if this number topped 45. That's right: After expenditures in the hundreds of millions, all the controversial events of the past four years, and the marathon two-year campaign of 2008, the map may not be radically altered.

Last spring John McCain had hopes that he could appeal to Democratic states like California, New Jersey, and Washington. Those hopes are dashed. Realistically, he can carry only Blue Michigan and New Hampshire, with outside shots at Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. He currently trails in all four, though not by much.

Barack Obama talked optimistically of winning Western states such as Montana and North Dakota, as well as Southern states such as Georgia, Mississippi, and North Carolina. We believe his chances are greatly diminished in all five of these states.

Some shifts have occurred, so let's take a look at the mid-September map as a whole.

Solid -- No Real Chance for Upset

OBAMA - WA, CA, IL, MD, NY, VT, RI, MA, CT, NJ, DE, ME, DC, HI (183 electoral votes)

Comments: Nothing has changed for Obama in this category since mid-July. Obama gained no state he didn't already have by adding Joe Biden to his ticket. Delaware is solidly Democratic.

McCAIN - ID, UT, AZ, WY, SD, NE, KS, OK, TX, LA, AR, KY, WV, TN, AL, SC, MT, ND, GA, MS (163 electoral votes)

Comments: We have McCain gaining 30 electoral votes in this category since mid-July (AK, MT, ND, GA, MS). Sarah Palin has helped in her home state as well as the others. Had Obama chosen Sen. Evan Bayh of IN as his running-mate, we were prepared to move IN into the toss-up category. While some polls have suggested that McCain leads only narrowly there, we still believe it is unlikely that Obama will carry the Hoosier State in the end. Still, given its long border with Illinois, Indiana is going to be closer this year, and we have moved it out of the Solid McCain category and into the Likely McCain grouping.

Likely -- An Upset is Possible but Improbable

OBAMA - OR, MN (17 electoral votes)

Comments: Had McCain chosen Gov. Tim Pawlenty of MN as his running-mate, we were prepared to move MN to the toss-up category. But without Pawlenty, McCain is very unlikely to carry the state, despite a recent poll showing the state tied (right after the GOP Convention had been held in the Twin Cities). Similarly, McCain keeps making noises about Oregon but we see little Palin effect there, and Obama should be able to carry it.

McCAIN - Indiana (11 electoral votes)

Comments: All the states in this July category (AK, GA, MS, MT, and ND) have now firmed up for McCain. Remember that before Palin's nomination, some Alaska polls had Obama ahead in the state, or behind McCain in low single digits, but Palin will create a handsome victory for McCain. However, as we noted above, we have moved Indiana from Solid to Leaning McCain.

Leaning -- Currently Tilting to One Side but Reversible

OBAMA - IA, NM, WI (22 electoral votes)

Comments: Our guess still is that all three of these states end up in Obama's column. Wisconsin very narrowly voted for Gore and Kerry, but Obama has an excellent organization there. Public and private polls have Wisconsin close again, but Democrats get the edge here. Iowa and New Mexico voted for Bush in 2004. If only one of them switches to Obama this time, it will be Iowa, where McCain has always been weak. As a western state, New Mexico is at least open to voting for its Arizona neighbor. But Obama ought to be able to put New Mexico away, too.

McCAIN - FL, MO, NC (53 electoral votes)

Comments: McCain will have to work hard to hold these three usually Republican states. If he loses even one of them, he will be up against the Electoral College wall. His margin in MO is decent at present, and we expect him to carry the Show Me State. McCain ought to win NC, but he's not going to do it by anything like George W. Bush's double-digit margins. Reliable Tar Heel observers insist to us that the contest is surprisingly close, so we're not about to move NC into a firmer column for McCain yet. Of these three states, we wonder most about FL. Obama was weak there in the Democratic primary and McCain-tilting veterans and seniors are major forces in the state. Yet this mega-state is quirky, and as we learned in both 1996 (when it voted for Clinton) and 2000 (when...oh, you remember), the Sunshine State can reflect national trends quickly. If McCain is faltering in any one of these states in October, it will be an important signal about the likely election outcome. It is difficult to see McCain surviving the loss of a single one.

Toss-Ups-The Real Deal

CO, MI, NH, NV, OH, PA, VA (89 electoral votes)

Comments: A few of these states are Red or Blue tinged, though not enough for us to have any real confidence yet in a prediction. If you put a gun to our head---and we hope you won't, since that makes us very nervous---we would say Obama will end up carrying MI and PA. These states have such a strong Democratic base that, even with Obama's problems from the primaries, he ought to be able to secure them narrowly. On the other side, we now believe that McCain has a tiny edge in Virginia, despite a large number of new voter registrations that tilt strongly Democratic. Obama is not doing well enough in all of Northern Virginia to overcome strong resistance to his candidacy in more rural parts of the state, especially in the western quarter. This could change, and Obama is better organized in the Old Dominion than any Democrat since Jimmy Carter in 1976. He has the strong support of Gov. Tim Kaine (D) and Senate nominee Mark Warner (D), who is a certain winner, possibly by a wide enough margin to help Obama.

We could argue the other states either way. Obama leads most Colorado polls, but that may be an afterglow of the Democratic Convention that will fade. Similarly, Obama appears to be ahead in New Hampshire, but after the Democratic primary there in January, what fool would believe Granite State polls? All reports suggest a big pick-up in Democratic registration in Nevada, but it's too early to move this one to Obama, given McCain's Arizona address.

Notice we haven't discussed Ohio. We aren't prepared to say that other states won't make the difference this year, but it's more than possible that, for a second straight election, the Buckeye State will essentially choose the next president. There are surveys putting the state in Obama's camp, and others saying it is McCain's. No one is going to call this one until they have to do it.

Time again for our summary electoral math. The totally safe and likely Obama states have 200 Electoral Votes (EVs). For McCain, the similar total is 174 EVs. Add in Iowa, New Mexico, and Wisconsin for Obama and he has 222 EVs. Let's give McCain FL, MO, and NC, and he's up to 227 EVs. If Obama carries MI and PA, he's at 260 (ten votes short), and would need either Ohio or Virginia to win. If he carried Colorado and either NH or NV, Obama could win without OH or VA. And interestingly, Obama could lose CO, OH, and VA, while carrying just NH and NV, and achieve a 269 to 269 tie-that would very likely be resolved in the new U.S. House of Representatives in his favor (given probable Democratic gains coming in the House).

Now, on McCain's side, let's add VA to his 227, and he's at 240, 30 votes short of victory. If McCain falters in any of his Leaning states, he is likely out of the picture. But if he holds them all, his most likely path to victory at that point would be to win OH, CO, and either NH or NV. If he wins only OH and CO, the pro-Obama 269 to 269 tie is back. Should he lose OH but somehow carry PA, he would need only CO to get to 270; both NH and NV could go to Obama without effect.

Does your head hurt? Ours does, so we'll stop for now. But THE MAP will be back a couple more times before November 4th.

Dr. Sabato, the Robert Kent Gooch Professor of Politics at the University of Virginia, founded the Center for Politics in 1998.

 

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^ I like that the author holds the distinguished Gooch Professorship at UVA.

 

[commisholio]

-->Adonis

Update your subhead - Obama's back ahead in the polls...

 

[Running with scissors]

Should we be keeping some sort of tally of conservatives that are coming out for Obama lately?

Former L.A. Mayor crosses party lines, endorses Obama

Former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, a Republican, is backing Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama and attended a high-profile Beverly Hills fundraiser for the candidate last night.

He explained to KCAL-TV why he had crossed party lines. "I think he's a much more open person," Riordan said as he arrived at the event, which featured a performance by Barbra Streisand. "He's young, he has more energy, more electricity."

Riordan, who served two terms in City Hall from 1993 to 2001, also had some choice words on his past dealings with Obama's opponent, U.S. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

"When I was mayor I had dealings with McCain where I didn't respect him," Riordan said.

Obama raised nearly $11 million at the event, according to The New York Times, setting a new one-night record for the campaign.

Not as big... Wayne Gilchrest

Republican congressman endorses Obama

Rep. Wayne Gilchrest, a maverick Republican from Maryland, endorsed Illinois Democratic Sen. Barack Obama for president in an interview Wednesday with WYPR, Baltimore's National Public Radio station.

Gilchrest, who lost a primary campaign and is retiring from Congress, has already endorsed the Democrat running for his seat, Frank Kratovil. Justifying his endorsement of Obama, Gilchrest said that "we can't use four more years of the same kind of policy that's somewhat haphazard, which leads to recklessness."

Obama and his running mate, Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.), "have the breadth of experience. I think they're prudent. They're knowledgable."

Gilchrest's reference to prudence may be an allusion to a widely-circulated op-ed written by conservative David Brooks, who questioned whether Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin had the necessary wisdom and prudence.

 

[Gr00vus]

Sorry if this is :honda: but I'd been looking for something like this for a while and someone finally sent me this link, so I thought I'd post it here (I did a search in the FFA for the link and nothing useful came up).

Washington Post blurb on the effects of McCain and Obama's tax plans

Is this summary accurate?

No big surprise here I guess. It definitely give the lie to any claims that Obama is net raising taxes. Turns out I personally would get less of a tax break from Obama than McCain.

I also note that govt tax revenue must drop in either case. With the current view that Obama will spend 1-2 trillion less than McCain I'd have to say the overall package makes Obama look better for the current state of the economy than McCain.

 

[Fennis]

-->Adonis

Update your subhead - Obama's back ahead in the polls...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107674/Gallup-D...ction-2008.aspx

The first debate is huge.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

ABC's panel this morning was somewhat critical of McCain.

Video

 

[apkballa]

Obama will be on 60 minutes today.

 

[Fennis]

ABC's panel this morning was somewhat critical of McCain.

Video

Wow. George Will rips McCain:“The question is, who in this crisis looked more presidential, calm and un-flustered? It wasn't John McCain who, as usual, substituting vehemence for coherence, said 'let's fire somebody.' And picked one of the most experienced and conservative people in the administration, Chris Cox, and for no apparent reason... It was un-presidential behavior by a presidential candidate”

“The problem if [John McCain is] running as a man who above all else a leader, populism is always pandering and pandering is always the reverse of leadership. “

"John McCain showed his personality this week and it made some of us fearful"

 

[lakerstan]

Good Comparison of Obama/McCain tax plans:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...8060900950.html

 

[kaa]

Well its been a nice recovery in the polls, no doubt in part due to the economic crisis. But the first debate looms and there I don't see how Obama can win this. We're going to get Saddleback again. Obama will mutter as he gets lost in his train of thought, trying to be nuanced but coming off milquetoast. McCain will be decisive, strong, and engaging. The ivory tower crowd will gush that Obama won, and McCain will surge in the polls. That's when the democrats go into panic mode.