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[snitwitch]

Sig updated.

I can't tell what you're going for here. Did you try and make the font red, but it's not allowed in sigs, or is it grey because you've already burned it down?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Seriously, tomorrow I will be emailing the DNC and anyone else that will listen and let them know that I will never vote for any Democrat in any election ever again as long as I live if they let that bull#### go down.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Sig updated.

I can't tell what you're going for here. Did you try and make the font red, but it's not allowed in sigs, or is it grey because you've already burned it down?

Neither. But I did update the size from 2 to 5. Kind of like my own DefCon level...if we get up to 7 that means I'm filling beer bottles with kerosene.

 

[Alan Smithee]

mccain cannot draw in moderates and independents with clear connections to the current president.

Moderates, Independents, and cross over Democrats are the main people McCain is drawing.

Hmm, that's kind of funny because Obama is also drawing moderates and independents.Not disagreeing that McCain can draw the middle, just yhat Obama is also drawing independents - the one failing to draw independents is Hilary. That should say a decent amount about her viability as a nat'l candidate.I'm just glad that we are guaranteed virtually no political influence in this campaign from the so-called far right. They are as irrelevant to this process as the far left was in '04.

Karl Rove had some stat last night saying that McCain is drawing more Democrats to his campaign than Obama is Republicans. Not sure where he was getting his numbers from.....

That's ok. The Dems are outdrawing the R's by 2-1 overall.

I wouldn't put too much stock in that figure. In the last nine presidential elections, the Republicans have had more primary votes than the Democrats only twice. In 1988, another "open" election (with no incumbent president running for re-election) the Dems had twice as many primary votes as the Republicans. Bush went on to win 40 states in the general election.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

mccain cannot draw in moderates and independents with clear connections to the current president.

Moderates, Independents, and cross over Democrats are the main people McCain is drawing.

Hmm, that's kind of funny because Obama is also drawing moderates and independents.Not disagreeing that McCain can draw the middle, just yhat Obama is also drawing independents - the one failing to draw independents is Hilary. That should say a decent amount about her viability as a nat'l candidate.I'm just glad that we are guaranteed virtually no political influence in this campaign from the so-called far right. They are as irrelevant to this process as the far left was in '04.

Karl Rove had some stat last night saying that McCain is drawing more Democrats to his campaign than Obama is Republicans. Not sure where he was getting his numbers from.....

That's ok. The Dems are outdrawing the R's by 2-1 overall.

I wouldn't put too much stock in that figure. In the last nine presidential elections, the Republicans have had more primary votes than the Democrats only twice. In 1988, another "open" election (with no incumbent president running for re-election) the Dems had twice as many primary votes as the Republicans. Bush went on to win 40 states in the general election.

Are you aware of who he ran against?

 

[snitwitch]

Sig updated.

I can't tell what you're going for here. Did you try and make the font red, but it's not allowed in sigs, or is it grey because you've already burned it down?

Neither. But I did update the size from 2 to 5. Kind of like my own DefCon level...if we get up to 7 that means I'm filling beer bottles with kerosene.

To this I would say "Nostrovia, Comrade Simpson!"

 

[Alan Smithee]

mccain cannot draw in moderates and independents with clear connections to the current president.

Moderates, Independents, and cross over Democrats are the main people McCain is drawing.

Hmm, that's kind of funny because Obama is also drawing moderates and independents.Not disagreeing that McCain can draw the middle, just yhat Obama is also drawing independents - the one failing to draw independents is Hilary. That should say a decent amount about her viability as a nat'l candidate.I'm just glad that we are guaranteed virtually no political influence in this campaign from the so-called far right. They are as irrelevant to this process as the far left was in '04.

Karl Rove had some stat last night saying that McCain is drawing more Democrats to his campaign than Obama is Republicans. Not sure where he was getting his numbers from.....

That's ok. The Dems are outdrawing the R's by 2-1 overall.

I wouldn't put too much stock in that figure. In the last nine presidential elections, the Republicans have had more primary votes than the Democrats only twice. In 1988, another "open" election (with no incumbent president running for re-election) the Dems had twice as many primary votes as the Republicans. Bush went on to win 40 states in the general election.

Are you aware of who he ran against?

A liberal Democrat who got millions of Democratic voters to participate in the primaries (smashing previous records) and who eventually got killed in the general election by a war veteran and Washington insider with tons of foreign policy experience.

 

[snitwitch]

mccain cannot draw in moderates and independents with clear connections to the current president.

Moderates, Independents, and cross over Democrats are the main people McCain is drawing.

Hmm, that's kind of funny because Obama is also drawing moderates and independents.Not disagreeing that McCain can draw the middle, just yhat Obama is also drawing independents - the one failing to draw independents is Hilary. That should say a decent amount about her viability as a nat'l candidate.I'm just glad that we are guaranteed virtually no political influence in this campaign from the so-called far right. They are as irrelevant to this process as the far left was in '04.

Karl Rove had some stat last night saying that McCain is drawing more Democrats to his campaign than Obama is Republicans. Not sure where he was getting his numbers from.....

That's ok. The Dems are outdrawing the R's by 2-1 overall.

I wouldn't put too much stock in that figure. In the last nine presidential elections, the Republicans have had more primary votes than the Democrats only twice. In 1988, another "open" election (with no incumbent president running for re-election) the Dems had twice as many primary votes as the Republicans. Bush went on to win 40 states in the general election.

Are you aware of who he ran against?

A liberal Democrat who got millions of Democratic voters to participate in the primaries (smashing previous records) and who eventually got killed in the general election by a war veteran and Washington insider with tons of foreign policy experience.

Bush I had a little of the incumbent thing going, having served as St. Ronald's VP and all. I'm just sayin'

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I predict that, before the March 4 vote in Tx and Ohio, that there will be some prominent Dems asking Hilary to surrender her campaign for the good of the party.

1. Nobody is going to try to push Hillary out of the race before TX and OH. She's down, but she's hardly out. Like others have mentioned, she still has a decent chance of getting the nomination if she can "win" those two states, because they allow her to make a plausible appeal for superdelegate support. 2. Can you really envision Hillary calling it quits for the good of the party? Seriously? If she could somehow get the nomination by outsourcing the Democratic party to unemployed goat-herders on the Indian subcontinent, then hello Bangalore!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politi...ton_counts.html

Hillary Clinton will take the Democratic nomination even if she does not win the popular vote, but persuades enough superdelegates to vote for her at the convention, her campaign advisers say.

The New York senator, who lost three primaries Tuesday night, now lags slightly behind her rival, Illinois Senator Barack Obama, in the delegate count. She is even further behind in "pledged'' delegates, those assigned by virtue of primaries and caucuses.

But Clinton will not concede the race to Obama if he wins a greater number of pledged delegates by the end of the primary season, and will count on the 796 elected officials and party bigwigs to put her over the top, if necessary, said Clinton's communications director, Howard Wolfson.

"I want to be clear about the fact that neither campaign is in a position to win this nomination without the support of the votes of the superdelegates,'' Wolfson told reporters in a conference call.

"We don't make distinctions between delegates chosen by million of voters in a primary and those chosen between tens of thousands in caucuses,'' Wolfson said. "And we don't make distinctions when it comes to elected officials'' who vote as superdelegates at the convention.

"We are interested in acquiring delegates, period,'' he added.

Personal ambition over party and country - the Clinton Way.

If they pursue this angle, it will backfire IMO.

What do you mean by "backfire?"If she makes a play for the superdelegates and fails, she'll lose the nomination, but so what? She was losing anyway. If she makes a play for the superdelegates and succeeds, she'll piss off a bunch of people, but she'll have the nomination and I don't think she cares that you're pissed off.

Hillary is probably never getting another shot at the Presidency. This is it for her. Going to the bitter end is a no-lose proposition unless she's worried about being publicly shamed in front of millions of people, but I think we all know that that isn't something the Clintons worry about too much.

 

[djcolts]

From the Drudge Report...

RASMUSSEN National Poll at 11 AM: Obama Takes Double Digit Lead: Obama 49% to Clinton 37%; Obama leads among women 46% to 41%... Developing...

 

[Sweet J]

I will set things on fire!

Sig updated.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

I will set things on fire!

Sig updated.

Catchy

 

[Marc Levin]

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politi...ton_counts.html

Hillary Clinton will take the Democratic nomination even if she does not win the popular vote, but persuades enough superdelegates to vote for her at the convention, her campaign advisers say.

The New York senator, who lost three primaries Tuesday night, now lags slightly behind her rival, Illinois Senator Barack Obama, in the delegate count. She is even further behind in "pledged'' delegates, those assigned by virtue of primaries and caucuses.

But Clinton will not concede the race to Obama if he wins a greater number of pledged delegates by the end of the primary season, and will count on the 796 elected officials and party bigwigs to put her over the top, if necessary, said Clinton's communications director, Howard Wolfson.

"I want to be clear about the fact that neither campaign is in a position to win this nomination without the support of the votes of the superdelegates,'' Wolfson told reporters in a conference call.

"We don't make distinctions between delegates chosen by million of voters in a primary and those chosen between tens of thousands in caucuses,'' Wolfson said. "And we don't make distinctions when it comes to elected officials'' who vote as superdelegates at the convention.

"We are interested in acquiring delegates, period,'' he added.

Personal ambition over party and country - the Clinton Way.

If they pursue this angle, it will backfire IMO.

Big time.If she does this after it is clear to all observers that she is going to lose, she will ruin her political future among Democrats. She's already a a scumbag to be pushing for Mi and Fl voters to be heard at the convention.

 

[Marc Levin]

I predict that, before the March 4 vote in Tx and Ohio, that there will be some prominent Dems asking Hilary to surrender her campaign for the good of the party.

1. Nobody is going to try to push Hillary out of the race before TX and OH. She's down, but she's hardly out. Like others have mentioned, she still has a decent chance of getting the nomination if she can "win" those two states, because they allow her to make a plausible appeal for superdelegate support. 2. Can you really envision Hillary calling it quits for the good of the party? Seriously? If she could somehow get the nomination by outsourcing the Democratic party to unemployed goat-herders on the Indian subcontinent, then hello Bangalore!

1) I didn;t say people would be pushing her out - I said, exactly, that prominent Democrtats will be asking her to surrender her ca paign for the good of the party.2) No, I don't see her giving up - I see her burning herself out after losing this primary and never trying a national campaign ever again. IMO, this primary marks then end of the Bushes and Clintons in D.C. I don't think Jeb Bush weill ever run nationally, and it would be Chelsea to be the next Clinton to do it.

 

[Sammy3469]

I predict that, before the March 4 vote in Tx and Ohio, that there will be some prominent Dems asking Hilary to surrender her campaign for the good of the party.

1. Nobody is going to try to push Hillary out of the race before TX and OH. She's down, but she's hardly out. Like others have mentioned, she still has a decent chance of getting the nomination if she can "win" those two states, because they allow her to make a plausible appeal for superdelegate support. 2. Can you really envision Hillary calling it quits for the good of the party? Seriously? If she could somehow get the nomination by outsourcing the Democratic party to unemployed goat-herders on the Indian subcontinent, then hello Bangalore!

the one person that could is Pelosi (did I really just say that)...she comes out for Obama and a whole host of House superdelegates follow basically throwing her superdelegate argument out of the water.

 

[snitwitch]

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politi...ton_counts.html

Hillary Clinton will take the Democratic nomination even if she does not win the popular vote, but persuades enough superdelegates to vote for her at the convention, her campaign advisers say.

The New York senator, who lost three primaries Tuesday night, now lags slightly behind her rival, Illinois Senator Barack Obama, in the delegate count. She is even further behind in "pledged'' delegates, those assigned by virtue of primaries and caucuses.

But Clinton will not concede the race to Obama if he wins a greater number of pledged delegates by the end of the primary season, and will count on the 796 elected officials and party bigwigs to put her over the top, if necessary, said Clinton's communications director, Howard Wolfson.

"I want to be clear about the fact that neither campaign is in a position to win this nomination without the support of the votes of the superdelegates,'' Wolfson told reporters in a conference call.

"We don't make distinctions between delegates chosen by million of voters in a primary and those chosen between tens of thousands in caucuses,'' Wolfson said. "And we don't make distinctions when it comes to elected officials'' who vote as superdelegates at the convention.

"We are interested in acquiring delegates, period,'' he added.

Personal ambition over party and country - the Clinton Way.

If they pursue this angle, it will backfire IMO.

What do you mean by "backfire?"

If she makes a play for the superdelegates and fails, she'll lose the nomination, but so what? She was losing anyway. If she makes a play for the superdelegates and succeeds, she'll piss off a bunch of people, but she'll have the nomination and I don't think she cares that you're pissed off.

Hillary is probably never getting another shot at the Presidency. This is it for her. Going to the bitter end is a no-lose proposition unless she's worried about being publicly shamed in front of millions of people, but I think we all know that that isn't something the Clintons worry about too much.

This is what I meant essentially. If they make this play too early, or in the wrong way, the gambit won't work out in their favor.

 

[culdeus]

I will set things on fire!

Sig updated.

Catchy

what is it? I haven't figured out how to look at sigs since the board switch.

 

[adonis]

I think she's out after the 4th. No way this thing goes to Pennsylvania.

If she wins Texas and Ohio, there is no way she will leave after the 4th, even if she still does not lead in pledged delegates. Obama needs to deliver a knockout punch by beating her in one of the those two states. Hillary will not give up easy, and I could definitely see her extending this out to Pennsylvania. This was supposed to be her nomination.

NO WAY IN HELL does Hillary bow out gracefully under any circumstances. Even if she loses everything she gains delegates because they're not winner-take-all. In her mind she's won MI and FL and is WAY ahead in the delegate and superdelegate count. I'll be more than happy to admit I'm wrong but I just do not see any graceful exit from her.

Unfortunately, I agree. She's put up with Bill for all these years, gone to new york as a senator, basically spent her entire adult life leading up to this point to run for president, and there will be no stone unturned, no attack left unmade, no super delegate unlobbied, and if it has to go to court to settle this thing, hillary will push it there and fight till the bitter end. This is her shot, and she will win by any (realistic) means necessary.

 

[flufhed]

I'm on board. See sig.

 

[adonis]

I'm on board. See sig.

IN too.

 

[3nOut]

Am I missing something here. If you are a republican, isn't your only choice in the primaries to vote for a republican candidate? How can your dad vote for Hillary if he's a republican?

In VA you can vote in either primary but not both. When you show your ID they ask which ballot you want.

Is that right? Wow.

It's the same in Wisconsin.

Same in Illinois. And if you're an "Independent" then you get a ballot with only Independent candidates. I wish i could say that i am independent and get a list of all the candidates. I may want a dem for one postion and a rep for another. Things ahve gotto change.

 

[Sweet J]

I'm on board. See sig.

IN too.

I love it:

If Obamanation meets ruination from a Clinton altercation, allegation, or disinformation, oh yes, there will be conflagration.

 

[adonis]

Not good news. There's still time, but that's a pretty big lead:

Clinton leading Obama in Ohio, Pennsylvania: poll

Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:48am EST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has double-digit leads over Barack Obama in Ohio and Pennsylvania, both crucial states in upcoming primaries, according to Quinnipiac University poll released on Thursday.

Clinton, a New York senator, has lost eight straight nominating contests to Illinois Sen. Obama, but leads him 55 percent to 34 percent among likely Democratic primary voters in Ohio, the poll found.

Among Ohio Democrats, women back Clinton, 56 percent to 30 percent for Obama, while men back Clinton 52 percent to 42 percent, the poll found.

White Democrats favor Clinton 64 percent to 28 percent, while Obama leads 64 to 17 percent among black voters, according to the survey.

"Ohio is as good a demographic fit for Sen. Clinton as she will find," Peter Brown, an Quinnipiac University Polling Institute official, said in a statement.

"It has blue-collar America with a smaller percentage of both Democrats with college educations and African-American than in many other states where Sen. Obama has carried the day."

Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas and Vermont hold nominating contests on March 4. Pennsylvania voters will select presidential nominees in a primary election on April 22.

The survey found that among likely Democratic primary voters in Pennsylvania, Clinton leads Obama 52 percent to 36 percent.

In a general election matchup with Republican front-runner John McCain, Ohio voters give the Arizona senator 44 percent support to 43 percent for Clinton and 40 percent for Obama.

In Pennsylvania, Clinton leads McCain 46 percent to 40 percent in the general election, Obama has 42 percent to McCain's 41 percent, the poll said.

The Quinnipiac University poll was taken February 6 through 12, after the "Super Tuesday" contests in which McCain all but wrapped up the Republican nomination with coast-to-coast primary victories.

The Ohio poll of 1,748 voters has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.3 percent, including 564 Democratic likely voters with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.1 percent.

The Pennsylvania poll of 1,419 voters has a margin of error plus or minus 2.6 percent, including 577 Democratic likely voters, with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.1 percent.

 

[Sweet J]

Sweet Jesus

Totally not cool if Edwards used that word to describe Obama.

That being said, it's also funny as hell. Although I'm an Obama guy, when it comes to comedy, I am an equal opportunity laugher.

 

[Cavalier]

Okay, I had enough republican BS...........I'm in.

 

[The Juggernaut]

Okay, I had enough republican BS...........I'm in.

 

[djcolts]

Not good news. There's still time, but that's a pretty big lead:

The Quinnipiac University poll was taken February 6 through 12, after the "Super Tuesday" contests in which McCain all but wrapped up the Republican nomination with coast-to-coast primary victories.

This is the real key here. A large portion of the poll was taken before Obama's string of victories after Super Tuesday.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Okay, I had enough republican BS...........I'm in.

I am impressed you were able to see past John McCain...He is the stuff of legends apparently

 

[Cavalier]

Okay, I had enough republican BS...........I'm in.

I am impressed you were able to see past John McCain...He is the stuff of legends apparently

McCain's a #####.....I was for Obama, then I started reading on Paul. I think his ideas are the best but he has no shot, so back to Barack, this time I'll never go back.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Sweet Jesus

Totally not cool if Edwards used that word to describe Obama.

I'm guessing there are a lot of people, including many in the Democratic party, who agree with Halperin. I was watching Larry King last night, and James Carville was one of the guests. Toward the end of the program, Carville mentioned that he thinks it's important for politicians to mix it up a little, and he's a little tired of all the talk about everybody being nice to each other and how horrible it would be if anybody went negative, etc. I got the distinct impression that the thinks Obama is a #####, too.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Sweet Jesus

Totally not cool if Edwards used that word to describe Obama.

That being said, it's also funny as hell. Although I'm an Obama guy, when it comes to comedy, I am an equal opportunity laugher.

wow...

 

[saintfool]

Sweet Jesus

Totally not cool if Edwards used that word to describe Obama.

I'm guessing there are a lot of people, including many in the Democratic party, who agree with Halperin. I was watching Larry King last night, and James Carville was one of the guests. Toward the end of the program, Carville mentioned that he thinks it's important for politicians to mix it up a little, and he's a little tired of all the talk about everybody being nice to each other and how horrible it would be if anybody went negative, etc. I got the distinct impression that the thinks Obama is a #####, too.

carville likes to kick it cajun style!

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Okay, I had enough republican BS...........I'm in.

I am impressed you were able to see past John McCain...He is the stuff of legends apparently

McCain's a #####.....I was for Obama, then I started reading on Paul. I think his ideas are the best but he has no shot, so back to Barack, this time I'll never go back.

Once you go Barack, you never go back

 

[HellToupee]

Sweet Jesus

Totally not cool if Edwards used that word to describe Obama.

I'm guessing there are a lot of people, including many in the Democratic party, who agree with Halperin. I was watching Larry King last night, and James Carville was one of the guests. Toward the end of the program, Carville mentioned that he thinks it's important for politicians to mix it up a little, and he's a little tired of all the talk about everybody being nice to each other and how horrible it would be if anybody went negative, etc. I got the distinct impression that the thinks Obama is a #####, too.

carville likes to kick it cajun style!

Love listening to Carville but he's a made man in the Clinton family

 

[flufhed]

I agree the comment was funny.

But the nice guy/positive image is something Obama has to tread very carefully if he wants to mix it up. That is his brand. He has built an army of millions based on being the nice, positive, uplifting guy. That's what his campaign has been about from the get go. He would get slaughtered if he turned into angry Obama all of a sudden.

 

[saintfool]

Sweet Jesus

Totally not cool if Edwards used that word to describe Obama.

I'm guessing there are a lot of people, including many in the Democratic party, who agree with Halperin. I was watching Larry King last night, and James Carville was one of the guests. Toward the end of the program, Carville mentioned that he thinks it's important for politicians to mix it up a little, and he's a little tired of all the talk about everybody being nice to each other and how horrible it would be if anybody went negative, etc. I got the distinct impression that the thinks Obama is a #####, too.

carville likes to kick it cajun style!

Love listening to Carville but he's a made man in the Clinton family

that dog don't hunt, toupee. that dog just don't hunt...

 

[HellToupee]

Sweet Jesus

Totally not cool if Edwards used that word to describe Obama.

I'm guessing there are a lot of people, including many in the Democratic party, who agree with Halperin. I was watching Larry King last night, and James Carville was one of the guests. Toward the end of the program, Carville mentioned that he thinks it's important for politicians to mix it up a little, and he's a little tired of all the talk about everybody being nice to each other and how horrible it would be if anybody went negative, etc. I got the distinct impression that the thinks Obama is a #####, too.

carville likes to kick it cajun style!

Love listening to Carville but he's a made man in the Clinton family

that dog don't hunt, toupee. that dog just don't hunt...

Drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find.

 

[SofaKings]

I agree the comment was funny.But the nice guy/positive image is something Obama has to tread very carefully if he wants to mix it up. That is his brand. He has built an army of millions based on being the nice, positive, uplifting guy. That's what his campaign has been about from the get go. He would get slaughtered if he turned into angry Obama all of a sudden.

An angry black man would probably be a turn off to some.

 

[Marc Levin]

Okay, I had enough republican BS...........I'm in.

I am impressed you were able to see past John McCain...He is the stuff of legends apparently

McCain's a #####.....I was for Obama, then I started reading on Paul. I think his ideas are the best but he has no shot, so back to Barack, this time I'll never go back.

Once you go Barack, you never go back

That's a winner.

 

[flufhed]

BTW, Edwards, not everyone wants to "fight" everything and everybody.

 

[Chachi]

Hey all, I'm going to be rolling with Obama if and when (looks likely) gets the nomination. Right now I am for the She-Devil and have my reasons and think both candidates are top notch. The main reason I am for HC is her and Obamas slight difference on health care, I really don't see much policy differences with these two. I hope if Obama gets the nod I'll get an open arms invitation here. Check out the train wreck going on at the McCain Headquarters.

 

[flufhed]

Hey all, I'm going to be rolling with Obama if and when (looks likely) gets the nomination. Right now I am for the She-Devil and have my reasons and think both candidates are top notch. The main reason I am for HC is her and Obamas slight difference on health care, I really don't see much policy differences with these two. I hope if Obama gets the nod I'll get an open arms invitation here. Check out the train wreck going on at the McCain Headquarters.

Care to elaborate? Maybe we can convince you to jump on board now.

 

[Sweet J]

Hey all, I'm going to be rolling with Obama if and when (looks likely) gets the nomination. Right now I am for the She-Devil and have my reasons and think both candidates are top notch. The main reason I am for HC is her and Obamas slight difference on health care, I really don't see much policy differences with these two. I hope if Obama gets the nod I'll get an open arms invitation here.

 

[adonis]

Hey all, I'm going to be rolling with Obama if and when (looks likely) gets the nomination. Right now I am for the She-Devil and have my reasons and think both candidates are top notch. The main reason I am for HC is her and Obamas slight difference on health care, I really don't see much policy differences with these two. I hope if Obama gets the nod I'll get an open arms invitation here. Check out the train wreck going on at the McCain Headquarters.

Care to elaborate? Maybe we can convince you to jump on board now.

Probly the fact that hers is universally mandated health care, and his just makes healthcare affordable to everyone so that anyone who wants it can get it. Reasonable difference.

 

[Chachi]

Hey all, I'm going to be rolling with Obama if and when (looks likely) gets the nomination. Right now I am for the She-Devil and have my reasons and think both candidates are top notch. The main reason I am for HC is her and Obamas slight difference on health care, I really don't see much policy differences with these two. I hope if Obama gets the nod I'll get an open arms invitation here. Check out the train wreck going on at the McCain Headquarters.

Care to elaborate? Maybe we can convince you to jump on board now.

Not really because I don't want to get into any arguments with people who are my allies.

 

[Jeremy]

Hey all, I'm going to be rolling with Obama if and when (looks likely) gets the nomination. Right now I am for the She-Devil and have my reasons and think both candidates are top notch. The main reason I am for HC is her and Obamas slight difference on health care, I really don't see much policy differences with these two. I hope if Obama gets the nod I'll get an open arms invitation here. Check out the train wreck going on at the McCain Headquarters.

Do you think Hillary has even a remote chance at getting her healthcare plan through Congress? Or anything else meaningful? She's way too divisive. As others have said, Republicans in Congress will take great pleasure in blocking her every move and a good deal of the American people would enjoy watching that as well. You gotta look at the big picture.

 

[Green and Gold]

Sweet Jesus

Totally not cool if Edwards used that word to describe Obama.

I'm guessing there are a lot of people, including many in the Democratic party, who agree with Halperin. I was watching Larry King last night, and James Carville was one of the guests. Toward the end of the program, Carville mentioned that he thinks it's important for politicians to mix it up a little, and he's a little tired of all the talk about everybody being nice to each other and how horrible it would be if anybody went negative, etc. I got the distinct impression that the thinks Obama is a #####, too.

I find that pretty funny. Everyone complains about negative campaigning, but when someone actually comes along who doesn't get down and dirty, he's a #####. WTF is wrong with people, seriously.

 

[timschochet]

Hey all, I'm going to be rolling with Obama if and when (looks likely) gets the nomination. Right now I am for the She-Devil and have my reasons and think both candidates are top notch. The main reason I am for HC is her and Obamas slight difference on health care, I really don't see much policy differences with these two. I hope if Obama gets the nod I'll get an open arms invitation here. Check out the train wreck going on at the McCain Headquarters.

You have attempted to make it a train wreck, but it isn't. The McCain thread is open to ideas from all sides, as it should be. We welcome everyone there; no one is a troll. If you want real substansive debate about the issues (instead of an echo chamber, as this thread seems to be) join us. And vote for McCain!

 

[adonis]

Hey all, I'm going to be rolling with Obama if and when (looks likely) gets the nomination. Right now I am for the She-Devil and have my reasons and think both candidates are top notch. The main reason I am for HC is her and Obamas slight difference on health care, I really don't see much policy differences with these two. I hope if Obama gets the nod I'll get an open arms invitation here. Check out the train wreck going on at the McCain Headquarters.

You have attempted to make it a train wreck, but it isn't. The McCain thread is open to ideas from all sides, as it should be. We welcome everyone there; no one is a troll. If you want real substansive debate about the issues (instead of an echo chamber, as this thread seems to be) join us. And vote for McCain!