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I had a thought while driving to work today: How long before we start seeing attacks on Obama's wife? These attacks have been super successful against Hillary and Teresa Heinz Kerry. Is there anything "attackable" about Obama's wife?

I've heard her in an interview, she seemed pretty with it and strong willed, which can't be good for her.

 
:popcorn: The real story in all of this is that Obama outdid Clinton in only a fraction of the time that Clinton has had to gain support. He's been on the national scene for less than a year, while Hillary has been around as a senator and as a first lady, and the wife of a president, for over a decade. She only beat him by 1 million dollars, and that was through maxed out contributions, and pulling her connections from that huge network the Clintons have.This speaks to Obama's strength in appealing to americans, and it really shows that he's a contender. Watch out Hillary.
I agree this is great news for Obama and I can only imagine that this not just shocked but rocked the Clinton campaign. Her edge was to suck all the money out of the primary campaign before anyone else could get to it and then just prepare for the general election. Obama is a serious contender, and I think may be on the way to becoming a favorite.One point of note, adonis. Obama has been on the scene since his speech at the 2004 Democratic National convention. He has been talked about as presidential timber since that time. It is not as though people only heard of him a year ago. I wholeheartedly agree this is great news for Obama and bad news for Hillary. And ANYTHING that is political bad news for Hillary is good news for America.
 
I had a thought while driving to work today: How long before we start seeing attacks on Obama's wife? These attacks have been super successful against Hillary and Teresa Heinz Kerry. Is there anything "attackable" about Obama's wife?I've heard her in an interview, she seemed pretty with it and strong willed, which can't be good for her.
I wouldn't put anything past the Clintons.
 
I had a thought while driving to work today: How long before we start seeing attacks on Obama's wife? These attacks have been super successful against Hillary and Teresa Heinz Kerry. Is there anything "attackable" about Obama's wife?I've heard her in an interview, she seemed pretty with it and strong willed, which can't be good for her.
I wouldn't put anything past the Clintons.
But according to KCC only Republicans attack.
 
Obama, Kilpatrick off to a rough startMay 7, 2007As first encounters go, it could have been better.But a recent phone call between presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was, shall we say, a little prickly.Word is it went like this: In advance of his speech today to a sold-out Detroit Economic Club, Obama calls Kilpatrick to touch base, ask for his support, get to know him a little.Kilpatrick, not yet committed to any presidential candidate, challenges the senator with a pinch of bluster about the nature of Obama's broad, cross-racial campaign. He asks Obama whether he'd be comfortable standing in public next to a 6-foot-4 black guy from Detroit.Obama, no shrinking violet, then fires back, saying he thinks he could handle it just fine -- as long as Kilpatrick loses the earring.Ouch.Now, it'd be silly to make too much of this exchange. The pair won't meet face to face until today. Their rough start could just have been about swagger.Obama's people say he knows the mayor has accomplished much in the city, and that Kilpatrick lost the ear stud long ago; the senator meant no harm, they say.And the mayor's people say Kilpatrick took no offense. He just wants to get to know what Obama's about. Indeed, Kilpatrick will host today's luncheon and introduce the senator. They'll also talk privately during the day.But that initial testy banter is worth noting, both for a chuckle and because it highlights a challenge that nags the Obama campaign.He's the first black guy to run for president without an urban agenda or its subtext -- race -- at the center of his campaign. It marks wonderful progress for this country that he can do that. His wild popularity right now, and the corollary idea that he has a sporting chance, owes directly to his ability to stay out of the political pigeonholes that doomed black candidates who came before him.At the same time, it's natural for big-city mayors such as Kilpatrick to wonder whether the senator might be avoiding too much talk about urban issues for fear that it will alienate supporters who are excited by his message of unity and hope.Let's face it: When you start talking about the deep poverty that afflicts urban areas and the solutions -- regarding health care, education and job creation -- that they cry out for, some folks get uncomfortable. That's even truer when race, still an aggravator for all of those ills, enters the picture.And no, this isn't more of the obnoxious prattle over whether Obama is "black enough." I've got no patience for that.It's about whether he can be a candidate whose broad base visibly and forcefully showcases urban leaders, their constituents, and their issues.I'm sure that's the point Mayor Kilpatrick was making during the phone call -- even if he was a little boorish about it. He has said similar things publicly, including on a recent NAACP panel where Kilpatrick noted that candidates John Edwards and Sen. Hillary Clinton are so far the only Democrats who've talked much about an urban agenda. He said nothing about Obama.Obama, for his part, could have begun to put a lot of this to rest today in Detroit -- the perfect setting to deliver a fiery speech about urban issues and his vision for America's cities.Instead, Obama plans to talk about energy independence and its effect on the economy in this region, with a hook into the auto industry's recent troubles. Not a bad topic, and certainly relevant to his audience.Still, it's a lost opportunity that Obama will need to reclaim before he's the clear choice of urban voters.STEPHEN HENDERSON is deputy editorial page editor of the Free Press. Contact him at 313-222-6659, or at shenderson600@freepress.com.Copyright © 2007 Detroit Free Press Inc.
 
My mom works for a guy that ran for mayor of Tampa several years back, and he is in charge of Baraks Tampa campaign. She got to meet him, and all that good stuff when he came here. Got a few pictures, etc. I didn'tr go to the rally, as I'm not big into political rallys, but she said they raised enough money to where he will probably come back.

 
From Paul Shanklin as played on Rush Limbaugh's show...

(to the tune of "Puff the Magic Dragon")

Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.

The L.A. Times, they called him that

‘Cause he’s not authentic like me.

Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper

Said he makes guilty whites feel good

They’ll vote for him, and not for me

‘Cause he’s not from the hood.

See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,

Or me, or Farrakhan

Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.

Not come in late and won!

Refrain:

Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.

The L.A. Times, they called him that

‘Cause he’s black, but not authentically.

(repeat Refrain)

Some say Barack’s "articulate"

And bright and new and "clean"

The media sure loves this guy,

A white interloper’s dream!

But, when you vote for president,

Watch out, and don’t be fooled!

Don’t vote the Magic Negro in

‘Cause... (music stops, Sharpton rants, music returns)

(background vocalists repeat refrain & finish song)

 
Obama was good natured about the song, saying that he hadn't heard it yet, but heard about it, and wasn't offended. Nice change of pace from the constant cries of foul anytime race is mentioned. Good for obama, says I.

 
Obama was good natured about the song, saying that he hadn't heard it yet, but heard about it, and wasn't offended. Nice change of pace from the constant cries of foul anytime race is mentioned. Good for obama, says I.
But before he gets all pissy when someone in the media mentioned his big ears...At least he got a little better...
 
Can I post the "Barack, The Magic Negro" lyrics in here??
If they were even slightly funny, I'd say go ahead. But they're not.
I thought it was quite funny. Frankly, the whole bit isn't even about Barack -- it is more a slam against Sharpton, et al. The song is nothing but quotes that other media outlets made about Obama.The funnier bit was Al Sharpton with a bullhorn outside of Obama headquarters insisting that he acquiesce to Sharpton's agenda. Sharpton said that if Barack didn't come out that he was going to start talking about his Mama and then lauched into a series of "your mama is so fat" jokes.Your mama is so fat, she has euros in one pocket and pesos in the other.Your mama is so fat that when she ran away, they had to use all 4 sides of the milk carton.Your mama is so fat that when she went to a restaurant and looked at the menu, she said "Ok".
 
Can I post the "Barack, The Magic Negro" lyrics in here??
If they were even slightly funny, I'd say go ahead. But they're not.
I thought it was quite funny. Frankly, the whole bit isn't even about Barack -- it is more a slam against Sharpton, et al. The song is nothing but quotes that other media outlets made about Obama.The funnier bit was Al Sharpton with a bullhorn outside of Obama headquarters insisting that he acquiesce to Sharpton's agenda. Sharpton said that if Barack didn't come out that he was going to start talking about his Mama and then lauched into a series of "your mama is so fat" jokes.Your mama is so fat, she has euros in one pocket and pesos in the other.Your mama is so fat that when she ran away, they had to use all 4 sides of the milk carton.Your mama is so fat that when she went to a restaurant and looked at the menu, she said "Ok".
:blackdot: :wall:
 
Obama was good natured about the song, saying that he hadn't heard it yet, but heard about it, and wasn't offended. Nice change of pace from the constant cries of foul anytime race is mentioned. Good for obama, says I.
But before he gets all pissy when someone in the media mentioned his big ears...At least he got a little better...
:blackdot:I bought that it was a joke taken out of context.
 
Interesting news about the $32 million he's raised so far. Hillary still way ahead in national polls though. Does anyone think this cash windfall can really help tighten things up as the election looms closer?

 
Interesting news about the $32 million he's raised so far. Hillary still way ahead in national polls though. Does anyone think this cash windfall can really help tighten things up as the election looms closer?
Hillary leads in the polls primarily because its still VERY early in the campaign and 1/4 of all those surveyed haven't been paying any attention to the race and don't even know who Obama is.With Obama leading the money race, he'll be able to put on a PR blitz to educate the public. It's always been his campaign's plan to make a big push in the fall.
 
Can I get a synopsis of Barack's platform?
This is just off the top of my head and should not be considered all-inclusive:- Remove our army from fighting in Iraq's civil war and refocus on Al-Qaeda (including in Iraq).- Rebuild our army in supplies, equipment, and troops that the Iraq war has drawn down.- Move incrementally towards universal health care (he calls his plan universal health care, but all it will really do is get insurance to about 90-95% of those without it right now, and might reduce insurance costs on the rest of us).- Restore America's faith in government by minimizing partisan language, and help end corruption by limiting lobbyist influence and making earmarks transparent rather than hide the pork from the public's eye.- Restore the world's faith in America by respecting constitutional principles and international law, and re-engaging the world in dialog and diplomacy.- Increase teacher pay, but also increase accountability in education to increase standardsMostly, though, Obama uses language to inspire rather than attack, and chooses to identify problems without getting into the specifics about how to fix them. Partially I think this is because his campaign is still working on coming up with solutions that Obama can use (it's still really early here), and partially because he knows that any legislation will need help from republicans to pass and that whatever he lists as the best case scenario will never come to pass.
 
We're fighting a war on terrorism. Obama has no military experience whatsoever. He's hardly even held any sort of office to acquire the experience in foreign policy we need. I'm not voting for this guy. He could agree with everything Bush does and I wouldn't vote for him.

 
We're fighting a war on terrorism. Obama has no military experience whatsoever. He's hardly even held any sort of office to acquire the experience in foreign policy we need. I'm not voting for this guy. He could agree with everything Bush does and I wouldn't vote for him.
Cool. No one else would either. :goodposting:
 
We're fighting a war on terrorism. Obama has no military experience whatsoever. He's hardly even held any sort of office to acquire the experience in foreign policy we need. I'm not voting for this guy. He could agree with everything Bush does and I wouldn't vote for him.
Glad to see the BGP hypocrisy show up. Every criticism you just directed at Obama is true of Bush, yet you love Bush. Go figure.And P.S. - Get ready for a Obama / Colin Powell ticket, or more likely a Obama / Jim Webb ticket to counter the military experience criticism.
 
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Obama is getting attacked by his (former?) left-wing supporters for not being in favor of impeachment of Bush and Cheney - even while admitting that doing so would accomplish nothing. This irritates the hell out of me and makes me wonder if these radicals even deserve someone with the common sense of Obama.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama laid out list of political shortcomings he sees in the Bush administration but said he opposes impeachment for either President George W. Bush or Vice President **** Cheney.

Obama said he would not back such a move, although he has been distressed by the "loose ethical standards, the secrecy and incompetence" of a "variety of characters" in the administration.

CAMPAIGN 2008: Barack Obama

"There's a way to bring an end to those practices, you know: vote the bums out," the presidential candidate said, without naming Bush or Cheney. "That's how our system is designed."

The term for Bush and Cheney ends on Jan. 20, 2009. Bush cannot constitutionally run for a third term, and Cheney has said he will not run to succeed Bush.

FIND MORE STORIES IN: WASHINGTON | George W Bush | Cheney | Obama

Obama, a Harvard law school graduate and former lecturer on constitutional law at the University of Chicago, said impeachment should not be used as a standard political tool.

"I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president's authority," he said.

"I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction," he added. "We would once again, rather than attending to the people's business, be engaged in a ###-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus."

Obama, son of a Kenyan father and American mother, spoke at a weekly constituent breakfast he sponsors with Illinois' other senator, **** Durbin. He was asked about impeachment.
 
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Obama is getting attacked by his (former?) left-wing supporters for not being in favor of impeachment of Bush and Cheney - even while admitting that doing so would accomplish nothing. This irritates the hell out of me and makes me wonder if these radicals even deserve someone with the common sense of Obama.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama laid out list of political shortcomings he sees in the Bush administration but said he opposes impeachment for either President George W. Bush or Vice President **** Cheney.

Obama said he would not back such a move, although he has been distressed by the "loose ethical standards, the secrecy and incompetence" of a "variety of characters" in the administration.

CAMPAIGN 2008: Barack Obama

"There's a way to bring an end to those practices, you know: vote the bums out," the presidential candidate said, without naming Bush or Cheney. "That's how our system is designed."

The term for Bush and Cheney ends on Jan. 20, 2009. Bush cannot constitutionally run for a third term, and Cheney has said he will not run to succeed Bush.

FIND MORE STORIES IN: WASHINGTON | George W Bush | Cheney | Obama

Obama, a Harvard law school graduate and former lecturer on constitutional law at the University of Chicago, said impeachment should not be used as a standard political tool.

"I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president's authority," he said.

"I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction," he added. "We would once again, rather than attending to the people's business, be engaged in a ###-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus."

Obama, son of a Kenyan father and American mother, spoke at a weekly constituent breakfast he sponsors with Illinois' other senator, **** Durbin. He was asked about impeachment.
I agree with Obama here. I'm also not sure the fringe element that would drop support of him because of something like this is an issue he needs to be preoccupied with.
 
Orange Crush said:
BGP said:
We're fighting a war on terrorism. Obama has no military experience whatsoever. He's hardly even held any sort of office to acquire the experience in foreign policy we need. I'm not voting for this guy. He could agree with everything Bush does and I wouldn't vote for him.
Glad to see the BGP hypocrisy show up. Every criticism you just directed at Obama is true of Bush, yet you love Bush. Go figure.And P.S. - Get ready for a Obama / Colin Powell ticket, or more likely a Obama / Jim Webb ticket to counter the military experience criticism.
LOL. 1. Bush was elected during peacetime. The war started within a year of his first term, giving him over 3 years of war leadership experience by his 2004 re-election campaign.2. Bush was at least in the national guard.3. Bush served as the governor of Texas starting in 1994, meaning he has compiled over a decade in major public service. Obama has zero experience in the military in any capacity. He only got into the US senate in 2004. Serve two years and then run for the white house? No thx.
 
We're fighting a war on terrorism. Obama has no military experience whatsoever. He's hardly even held any sort of office to acquire the experience in foreign policy we need. I'm not voting for this guy. He could agree with everything Bush does and I wouldn't vote for him.
Look at what experience Bush and his administration had and see how well this "war on terrorism" is going. We don't need someone with military experience to help us improve our situation, we need someone with wisdom, insight, and intelligence. Wisdom insight and intelligence go much further than simply having the experience of taking orders from someone while in the military, especially when his primary job will be analyzing what people with TONS of military experience are telling him. Discretion, discernment, intelligence, and insight, all of which Obama has shown he has, will go a lot further than military experience.
 
I actually agree with Rush ( :lmao: ) re his take on Obama.

Basically, Rush believes Hillary sort of was putting Obama out there as some obstacle for her to overcome, knowing full well she would bury him eventually, and in doing so make it look like she had really accomplihed something, and was battle-tested. He also believes, though, that the Hillary campaign never planned on Obama being able to raise this much money, and are likely caught a little off guard at this point.

Big Obama fan here, but not in denial about the Hillary factor. Definitely means :thumbup: throughout this nomination process.

 
I actually agree with Rush ( :wall: ) re his take on Obama.Basically, Rush believes Hillary sort of was putting Obama out there as some obstacle for her to overcome, knowing full well she would bury him eventually, and in doing so make it look like she had really accomplihed something, and was battle-tested. He also believes, though, that the Hillary campaign never planned on Obama being able to raise this much money, and are likely caught a little off guard at this point.Big Obama fan here, but not in denial about the Hillary factor. Definitely means :lmao: throughout this nomination process.
Ah yes, the "The Clintons really control practiaclly everything, including the 'liberal' media" premise. Good 'ole Rush.
 
I actually agree with Rush ( :lmao: ) re his take on Obama.Basically, Rush believes Hillary sort of was putting Obama out there as some obstacle for her to overcome, knowing full well she would bury him eventually, and in doing so make it look like she had really accomplihed something, and was battle-tested. He also believes, though, that the Hillary campaign never planned on Obama being able to raise this much money, and are likely caught a little off guard at this point.Big Obama fan here, but not in denial about the Hillary factor. Definitely means :thumbup: throughout this nomination process.
Ah yes, the "The Clintons really control practiaclly everything, including the 'liberal' media" premise. Good 'ole Rush.
Yeah they wanted him at there so much they actually threatened donors over giving him money. The old reverse psychology bit. She wanted to be annoited early. The meida wants candidates annoited early. But Edwards and Obama just won't go away. Heck Edwards is still beating all the GOPers in a general election poll last I checked.I want an old fashioned knock down drag out at the conventions personally.
 
Interesting news about the $32 million he's raised so far. Hillary still way ahead in national polls though. Does anyone think this cash windfall can really help tighten things up as the election looms closer?
Hillary leads in the polls primarily because its still VERY early in the campaign and 1/4 of all those surveyed haven't been paying any attention to the race and don't even know who Obama is.With Obama leading the money race, he'll be able to put on a PR blitz to educate the public. It's always been his campaign's plan to make a big push in the fall.
I think I read that 290,000 people contributed that $32M. Seems to have a lot of backers :thumbup:
 
I want an old fashioned knock down drag out at the conventions personally.
With the "national primary" on Feb. 5th, I think there's a stronger possibility of this than anything we've seen in 50 years.I can see HRC and Obama splitting the majority of the delegates with Edwards and Richardson getting around 10% total. Then it gets really interesting as HRC and Obama start trying to swing deals for their delegates to get them the nomination.On the Republican side, it's even more likely at the moment. What with the leader in the polls over there coming in at < 30%. Though I think there's a solid chance that the non-Giuliani candidates bale one by one and throw their support for Fred Thompson.
 
I want an old fashioned knock down drag out at the conventions personally.
With the "national primary" on Feb. 5th, I think there's a stronger possibility of this than anything we've seen in 50 years.I can see HRC and Obama splitting the majority of the delegates with Edwards and Richardson getting around 10% total. Then it gets really interesting as HRC and Obama start trying to swing deals for their delegates to get them the nomination.On the Republican side, it's even more likely at the moment. What with the leader in the polls over there coming in at < 30%. Though I think there's a solid chance that the non-Giuliani candidates bale one by one and throw their support for Fred Thompson.
Richardson better pick it up if he wants 10 percent. I am still holding out for a late Gore entry.
 
Interesting news about the $32 million he's raised so far. Hillary still way ahead in national polls though. Does anyone think this cash windfall can really help tighten things up as the election looms closer?
Hillary leads in the polls primarily because its still VERY early in the campaign and 1/4 of all those surveyed haven't been paying any attention to the race and don't even know who Obama is.With Obama leading the money race, he'll be able to put on a PR blitz to educate the public. It's always been his campaign's plan to make a big push in the fall.
I think I read that 290,000 people contributed that $32M. Seems to have a lot of backers :rolleyes:
Of the people who care about this thing, Obama has higher support. Thus there are bigger turn-outs at his campaign stops and he's raising more money. But there's a heck of a lot more people who aren't tuning in at this point.
 
I want an old fashioned knock down drag out at the conventions personally.
With the "national primary" on Feb. 5th, I think there's a stronger possibility of this than anything we've seen in 50 years.I can see HRC and Obama splitting the majority of the delegates with Edwards and Richardson getting around 10% total. Then it gets really interesting as HRC and Obama start trying to swing deals for their delegates to get them the nomination.On the Republican side, it's even more likely at the moment. What with the leader in the polls over there coming in at < 30%. Though I think there's a solid chance that the non-Giuliani candidates bale one by one and throw their support for Fred Thompson.
Richardson better pick it up if he wants 10 percent. I am still holding out for a late Gore entry.
Richardson's leading in his home state of New Mexico and Nevada.
 
Interesting news about the $32 million he's raised so far. Hillary still way ahead in national polls though. Does anyone think this cash windfall can really help tighten things up as the election looms closer?
Hillary leads in the polls primarily because its still VERY early in the campaign and 1/4 of all those surveyed haven't been paying any attention to the race and don't even know who Obama is.With Obama leading the money race, he'll be able to put on a PR blitz to educate the public. It's always been his campaign's plan to make a big push in the fall.
I think I read that 290,000 people contributed that $32M. Seems to have a lot of backers :rolleyes:
Of the people who care about this thing, Obama has higher support. Thus there are bigger turn-outs at his campaign stops and he's raising more money. But there's a heck of a lot more people who aren't tuning in at this point.
He is really doing well on the internet money at this point.
 
I want an old fashioned knock down drag out at the conventions personally.
With the "national primary" on Feb. 5th, I think there's a stronger possibility of this than anything we've seen in 50 years.I can see HRC and Obama splitting the majority of the delegates with Edwards and Richardson getting around 10% total. Then it gets really interesting as HRC and Obama start trying to swing deals for their delegates to get them the nomination.On the Republican side, it's even more likely at the moment. What with the leader in the polls over there coming in at < 30%. Though I think there's a solid chance that the non-Giuliani candidates bale one by one and throw their support for Fred Thompson.
Richardson better pick it up if he wants 10 percent. I am still holding out for a late Gore entry.
Richardson's leading in his home state of New Mexico and Nevada.
Thinking he will have a hard time holding that if he doesn't start doing something. I like the guy. I would be willing to consider voting for him but he really got a late start and I think it has hurt his campaign badly.
 
Thinking he will have a hard time holding that if he doesn't start doing something. I like the guy. I would be willing to consider voting for him but he really got a late start and I think it has hurt his campaign badly.
His whole strategy should have been "I'm the western states' candidate". He could target California or Texas and force the other candidates to deal with him.
 
Thinking he will have a hard time holding that if he doesn't start doing something. I like the guy. I would be willing to consider voting for him but he really got a late start and I think it has hurt his campaign badly.
His whole strategy should have been "I'm the western states' candidate". He could target California or Texas and force the other candidates to deal with him.
Still could I guess. But a regional campaign might not be the best way to sell yourself to the country.
 

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