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[The Juggernaut]

Teamsters to endorse Obama.

Obama was already winning among whites, blacks, men, women, and the young. Now he's nailed down the mafia vote. All the pieces are falling into place.

Were the Teamsters undeclared before or for Edwards?I endorsed him long ago.

"I always wanted to be a teamster. So surly. So lazy."

 

[aardball44]

Obama wanted 500K new donors by March 4th. They are at 506K new donors already. (I think this is since February 5th).

Too bad he didn't say he wanted 500K people to donate to the Red Cross.

I'd rather the red cross ceased to exist, myself.

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[bigbottom]

Teamsters to endorse Obama.

Obama was already winning among whites, blacks, men, women, and the young. Now he's nailed down the mafia vote. All the pieces are falling into place.

Once the SEIU endorsed Obama, I expected the Teamsters to follow suit. Does anyone know whether the UAW has endorsed?

 

[saintfool]

Obama wanted 500K new donors by March 4th. They are at 506K new donors already. (I think this is since February 5th).

Too bad he didn't say he wanted 500K people to donate to the Red Cross.

I'd rather the red cross ceased to exist, myself.

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they put the band back together!

 

[adonis]

@> Adonis

Have you compiled a list of Obama's political "accomplishments" and experience? The vacuous nature of his political achievements seems to be rising to the fore in criticisms of his career and candidacy, and I'm starting to wonder about it myself. It would be a good addition to your 1st page profile.

Here's a visualization of his illinois legislative record. Is that helpful at all?I think I posted some of his senate bill information in the first post. Check it out under his biography section.

 

[bigbottom]

Hillary needs every eligible voter south of San Antonio to show up to get a decisive victory in Texas. The momentum for Obama is so great that Dallas and Houston are likely to be overwhelmingly Obama.

Here are some interesting stats from the early voting numbers in Harris County (Houston):

Harris County early voting off to a blazing start

Heat of big races is drawing many more to the polls

By ALLAN TURNER

Cedric Willis is an independent voter craving change; Louis and Karen Becerra are Republicans demanding an equitable immigration policy; Michael Panesar is a Democrat looking for a president who would exhibit cultural sensitivity in the Middle East.

Although they expressed dramatically divergent views on national and world affairs, Willis, Panesar, the Becerras and others were in complete agreement on one point: 2008 is shaping up to be the most exciting political year in recent memory. The political enthusiasts were among the first to cast their ballots Tuesday as Harris County opened 35 polling spots for early primary voting.

By the end of the day, 9,233 ballots were cast in the Democratic primary; 2,914 in the Republican, said Harris County Clerk's spokesman Hector de Leon. First-day totals for early voting in the 2004 presidential primary totaled 849 in the Democratic contests and 678 in the Republican.

"I think a lot of people are watching the national primaries," de Leon said. "They recognize Texas has a role to play."

Sure, the primaries are typically decided by the time things get to Texas, but a tenfold increase in Day One early voting? I've got to think that sort of excitement favors Obama who was speaking at the Toyota Center in downtown Houston last night.

 

[Clayton Gray]

There have been 36 contests so far (including FL and MI). Obama won WI with 58% of the vote. Many of us thought it would be a close contest - and the national media was ready to spin a close Hillary loss as a "moral victory."

Well, how many contests has Hillary won at least 58% of the vote? I'll tell you: ONE In Arkansas.

Not in NY. Not in Mass. Not in California. Not even including MI, where she was the only major candidate on the ballot.

So, now all of a sudden, she's going to win 65% of the rest of the vote in the "big states?" Not likely.

In all fairness, Clinton's wins occurred when Edwards was still in the race.

 

[Sup_Yo]

@> Adonis

Have you compiled a list of Obama's political "accomplishments" and experience? The vacuous nature of his political achievements seems to be rising to the fore in criticisms of his career and candidacy, and I'm starting to wonder about it myself. It would be a good addition to your 1st page profile.

Here's a visualization of his illinois legislative record. Is that helpful at all?I think I posted some of his senate bill information in the first post. Check it out under his biography section.

That's awesome! Thanks!

 

[bigbottom]

There have been 36 contests so far (including FL and MI). Obama won WI with 58% of the vote. Many of us thought it would be a close contest - and the national media was ready to spin a close Hillary loss as a "moral victory."

Well, how many contests has Hillary won at least 58% of the vote? I'll tell you: ONE In Arkansas.

Not in NY. Not in Mass. Not in California. Not even including MI, where she was the only major candidate on the ballot.

So, now all of a sudden, she's going to win 65% of the rest of the vote in the "big states?" Not likely.

In all fairness, Clinton's wins occurred when Edwards was still in the race.

9 of Clintons wins occurred after Edwards dropped out, and 4 occurred before he dropped out. And two of those four wins were Michigan and Florida.

 

[Pooch]

Hillary needs every eligible voter south of San Antonio to show up to get a decisive victory in Texas. The momentum for Obama is so great that Dallas and Houston are likely to be overwhelmingly Obama.

Here are some interesting stats from the early voting numbers in Harris County (Houston):

Harris County early voting off to a blazing start

Heat of big races is drawing many more to the polls

By ALLAN TURNER

Cedric Willis is an independent voter craving change; Louis and Karen Becerra are Republicans demanding an equitable immigration policy; Michael Panesar is a Democrat looking for a president who would exhibit cultural sensitivity in the Middle East.

Although they expressed dramatically divergent views on national and world affairs, Willis, Panesar, the Becerras and others were in complete agreement on one point: 2008 is shaping up to be the most exciting political year in recent memory. The political enthusiasts were among the first to cast their ballots Tuesday as Harris County opened 35 polling spots for early primary voting.

By the end of the day, 9,233 ballots were cast in the Democratic primary; 2,914 in the Republican, said Harris County Clerk's spokesman Hector de Leon. First-day totals for early voting in the 2004 presidential primary totaled 849 in the Democratic contests and 678 in the Republican.

"I think a lot of people are watching the national primaries," de Leon said. "They recognize Texas has a role to play."

Sure, the primaries are typically decided by the time things get to Texas, but a tenfold increase in Day One early voting? I've got to think that sort of excitement favors Obama who was speaking at the Toyota Center in downtown Houston last night.

Obama expressly asked the Houston crowd to vote early last night during his speech. Pretty sure that's where the numbers are coming from.

 

[culdeus]

Hillary needs every eligible voter south of San Antonio to show up to get a decisive victory in Texas. The momentum for Obama is so great that Dallas and Houston are likely to be overwhelmingly Obama.

Here are some interesting stats from the early voting numbers in Harris County (Houston):

Harris County early voting off to a blazing start

Heat of big races is drawing many more to the polls

By ALLAN TURNER

Cedric Willis is an independent voter craving change; Louis and Karen Becerra are Republicans demanding an equitable immigration policy; Michael Panesar is a Democrat looking for a president who would exhibit cultural sensitivity in the Middle East.

Although they expressed dramatically divergent views on national and world affairs, Willis, Panesar, the Becerras and others were in complete agreement on one point: 2008 is shaping up to be the most exciting political year in recent memory. The political enthusiasts were among the first to cast their ballots Tuesday as Harris County opened 35 polling spots for early primary voting.

By the end of the day, 9,233 ballots were cast in the Democratic primary; 2,914 in the Republican, said Harris County Clerk's spokesman Hector de Leon. First-day totals for early voting in the 2004 presidential primary totaled 849 in the Democratic contests and 678 in the Republican.

"I think a lot of people are watching the national primaries," de Leon said. "They recognize Texas has a role to play."

Sure, the primaries are typically decided by the time things get to Texas, but a tenfold increase in Day One early voting? I've got to think that sort of excitement favors Obama who was speaking at the Toyota Center in downtown Houston last night.

Obama expressly asked the Houston crowd to vote early last night during his speech. Pretty sure that's where the numbers are coming from.

He wants people to vote early because that's what gets reported in the first 5 minutes after poales close in a state.

 

[djcolts]

There have been 36 contests so far (including FL and MI). Obama won WI with 58% of the vote. Many of us thought it would be a close contest - and the national media was ready to spin a close Hillary loss as a "moral victory."

Well, how many contests has Hillary won at least 58% of the vote? I'll tell you: ONE In Arkansas.

Not in NY. Not in Mass. Not in California. Not even including MI, where she was the only major candidate on the ballot.

So, now all of a sudden, she's going to win 65% of the rest of the vote in the "big states?" Not likely.

In all fairness, Clinton's wins occurred when Edwards was still in the race.

9 of Clintons wins occurred after Edwards dropped out, and 4 occurred before he dropped out. And two of those four wins were Michigan and Florida.

And the other 2 of the 4 wins before Edwards dropped out were squeakers.

 

[RBM]

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=50264

 

[adonis]

Hillary needs every eligible voter south of San Antonio to show up to get a decisive victory in Texas. The momentum for Obama is so great that Dallas and Houston are likely to be overwhelmingly Obama.

Here are some interesting stats from the early voting numbers in Harris County (Houston):

Harris County early voting off to a blazing start

Heat of big races is drawing many more to the polls

By ALLAN TURNER

Cedric Willis is an independent voter craving change; Louis and Karen Becerra are Republicans demanding an equitable immigration policy; Michael Panesar is a Democrat looking for a president who would exhibit cultural sensitivity in the Middle East.

Although they expressed dramatically divergent views on national and world affairs, Willis, Panesar, the Becerras and others were in complete agreement on one point: 2008 is shaping up to be the most exciting political year in recent memory. The political enthusiasts were among the first to cast their ballots Tuesday as Harris County opened 35 polling spots for early primary voting.

By the end of the day, 9,233 ballots were cast in the Democratic primary; 2,914 in the Republican, said Harris County Clerk's spokesman Hector de Leon. First-day totals for early voting in the 2004 presidential primary totaled 849 in the Democratic contests and 678 in the Republican.

"I think a lot of people are watching the national primaries," de Leon said. "They recognize Texas has a role to play."

Sure, the primaries are typically decided by the time things get to Texas, but a tenfold increase in Day One early voting? I've got to think that sort of excitement favors Obama who was speaking at the Toyota Center in downtown Houston last night.

Obama expressly asked the Houston crowd to vote early last night during his speech. Pretty sure that's where the numbers are coming from.

He wants people to vote early because that's what gets reported in the first 5 minutes after poales close in a state.

Why would that matter? Once the polls are closed, the votes are counted and that's it.More likely, he just wants people to act on their motivation and vote early, and avoid letting their fire and passion die down as the election is far away. Capitalize on the fervor now.

 

[Sammy3469]

Hillary needs every eligible voter south of San Antonio to show up to get a decisive victory in Texas. The momentum for Obama is so great that Dallas and Houston are likely to be overwhelmingly Obama.

Here are some interesting stats from the early voting numbers in Harris County (Houston):

Harris County early voting off to a blazing start

Heat of big races is drawing many more to the polls

By ALLAN TURNER

Cedric Willis is an independent voter craving change; Louis and Karen Becerra are Republicans demanding an equitable immigration policy; Michael Panesar is a Democrat looking for a president who would exhibit cultural sensitivity in the Middle East.

Although they expressed dramatically divergent views on national and world affairs, Willis, Panesar, the Becerras and others were in complete agreement on one point: 2008 is shaping up to be the most exciting political year in recent memory. The political enthusiasts were among the first to cast their ballots Tuesday as Harris County opened 35 polling spots for early primary voting.

By the end of the day, 9,233 ballots were cast in the Democratic primary; 2,914 in the Republican, said Harris County Clerk's spokesman Hector de Leon. First-day totals for early voting in the 2004 presidential primary totaled 849 in the Democratic contests and 678 in the Republican.

"I think a lot of people are watching the national primaries," de Leon said. "They recognize Texas has a role to play."

Sure, the primaries are typically decided by the time things get to Texas, but a tenfold increase in Day One early voting? I've got to think that sort of excitement favors Obama who was speaking at the Toyota Center in downtown Houston last night.

Obama expressly asked the Houston crowd to vote early last night during his speech. Pretty sure that's where the numbers are coming from.

He wants people to vote early because that's what gets reported in the first 5 minutes after poales close in a state.

Why would that matter? Once the polls are closed, the votes are counted and that's it.More likely, he just wants people to act on their motivation and vote early, and avoid letting their fire and passion die down as the election is far away. Capitalize on the fervor now.

B/C if he starts with a lead, it becomes increasingly hard for Clinton to declare victory there in a speech on March 4, especially since his support tends to come from areas that are generally slower to report on election night and areas with high delegate counts. Even if he loses the overall vote he'll still be able to play the "we won the delegate war" that night to great effect. It also has the added benefit of not having to have people come out twice on the 4th...once to vote in the primary and then to caucus.

 

[Pooch]

More likely, he just wants people to act on their motivation and vote early, and avoid letting their fire and passion die down as the election is far away. Capitalize on the fervor now.

I was thinking the same thing while he was saying that. There's still the debates coming up that could put some doubts in peoples minds if Obama makes a mistake. He's smart to lock in as many as possible early.Not sure if the latest Reuters/Zogby poll was mentioned but here's the link and excerpts:

LINK

The poll showed Obama with a 14-point edge over Clinton, 52 percent to 38 percent, after being in a statistical tie with the New York senator last month.

In a head-to-head matchup, Obama beat McCain 47 percent to 40 percent. He led McCain among independents, in all age groups except those above 70, and in all regions but the South.

McCain beat Clinton 50 percent to 38 percent in a head-to-head matchup. The Arizona senator led Clinton in all regions of the country, among independents and in all age groups.

 

[Gr00vus]

@> Adonis

Have you compiled a list of Obama's political "accomplishments" and experience? The vacuous nature of his political achievements seems to be rising to the fore in criticisms of his career and candidacy, and I'm starting to wonder about it myself. It would be a good addition to your 1st page profile.

Here's a visualization of his illinois legislative record. Is that helpful at all?I think I posted some of his senate bill information in the first post. Check it out under his biography section.

That helps, but (and I don't know that it's going to be possible) people are questioning his overall experience, so you'll probably want more information that speaks to that as well. Also that chart mentions he's sponsored around 800 bills in the state legislature but only specifically mentions a few of them. I assume those are the highlights, but if there's a more complete run down that would be good as well.Thanks.

 

[adonis]

Hillary needs every eligible voter south of San Antonio to show up to get a decisive victory in Texas. The momentum for Obama is so great that Dallas and Houston are likely to be overwhelmingly Obama.

Here are some interesting stats from the early voting numbers in Harris County (Houston):

Harris County early voting off to a blazing start

Heat of big races is drawing many more to the polls

By ALLAN TURNER

Cedric Willis is an independent voter craving change; Louis and Karen Becerra are Republicans demanding an equitable immigration policy; Michael Panesar is a Democrat looking for a president who would exhibit cultural sensitivity in the Middle East.

Although they expressed dramatically divergent views on national and world affairs, Willis, Panesar, the Becerras and others were in complete agreement on one point: 2008 is shaping up to be the most exciting political year in recent memory. The political enthusiasts were among the first to cast their ballots Tuesday as Harris County opened 35 polling spots for early primary voting.

By the end of the day, 9,233 ballots were cast in the Democratic primary; 2,914 in the Republican, said Harris County Clerk's spokesman Hector de Leon. First-day totals for early voting in the 2004 presidential primary totaled 849 in the Democratic contests and 678 in the Republican.

"I think a lot of people are watching the national primaries," de Leon said. "They recognize Texas has a role to play."

Sure, the primaries are typically decided by the time things get to Texas, but a tenfold increase in Day One early voting? I've got to think that sort of excitement favors Obama who was speaking at the Toyota Center in downtown Houston last night.

Obama expressly asked the Houston crowd to vote early last night during his speech. Pretty sure that's where the numbers are coming from.

He wants people to vote early because that's what gets reported in the first 5 minutes after poales close in a state.

Why would that matter? Once the polls are closed, the votes are counted and that's it.More likely, he just wants people to act on their motivation and vote early, and avoid letting their fire and passion die down as the election is far away. Capitalize on the fervor now.

B/C if he starts with a lead, it becomes increasingly hard for Clinton to declare victory there in a speech on March 4, especially since his support tends to come from areas that are generally slower to report on election night and areas with high delegate counts. Even if he loses the overall vote he'll still be able to play the "we won the delegate war" that night to great effect. It also has the added benefit of not having to have people come out twice on the 4th...once to vote in the primary and then to caucus.

Generally, the elections are called based on a combination of exit polling and early results. Most campaigns don't declare victory until a number of outlets call the election in their favor, which isn't done largely on early voting, as far as i know.

 

[flufhed]

Contrasting John McCain and Michelle ObamaOne of the best qualities of John McCain is his oft-expressed appreciation and gratitude for the opportunities America has given him, and the life he's been able to lead since a terrible ordeal. Five and a half years in a POW camp could leave a man bitter and angry. Yet from every outward appearance, McCain seems to recognize that in the big picture, he's a lucky man. He's financially well-off, he has a beautiful and supportive wife, a lovely family of seven children, a political career that has featured comebacks and second and third chances that a lot of presidential candidates don't get... He's offered probably the most poignant comments of the race so far:When I was a young man, I thought glory was the highest ambition, and that all glory was self-glory. My parents tried to teach me otherwise, as did the Naval Academy. But I didn't understand the lesson until later in life, when I confronted challenges I never expected to face.In that confrontation I discovered that I was dependent on others to a greater extent than I had ever realized, but that neither they nor the cause we served made any claims on my identity. On the contrary, I discovered that nothing is more liberating in life than to fight for a cause that encompasses you, but is not defined by your existence alone. And that has made all the difference, my friends, all the difference in the world.I do not seek the presidency on the presumption that I am blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save my country in its hour of need. I seek the presidency with the humility of a man who cannot forget that my country saved me. About 99 percent of America's political leaders have "the good life" in a way Americans will never experience. (For that matter, I've been lucky enough to enjoy 'the good life' in a way most Americans don't.) Any political leader who offers comments in the vein of "poor me, poor me" ought to be kicked out of office for losing perspective and not recognizing how good they have it.Mike Huckabee comes close to this when he complains he has no salary right now, and thus has to give paid speaking engagements to pay the mortgage. The NY Times notes: Mr. Huckabee himself has never been rich, drawing a $74,000 salary as governor, though when he left office, he bought a house in Little Rock for $525,000. On his most recent federal financial disclosure form, for 2006, he valued his assets at between $318,000 and $895,000. He earned nearly $150,000 in book royalties and made approximately $50,000 in speaking honorariums that year. His highest speaking fee was $17,000. And then we come to Michelle Obama, who suggests that her husband's success is her first reason to feel pride in America in her adult life. Others have addressed the numerous and obvious reasons for pride that easily fit the time period of "her adult life."America hasn't been good to her? What, opportunities to go to Princeton, Harvard Law, working for top-shelf law firms and hospitals, sitting on the board of directors for a major Wal-Mart supplier — that's not enough?Kaus wonders if it's an expression of jealousy of her husband. Either way, it's a strikingly ungracious remark, and she's certain to be asked about it in the near future. But there's a contrast of attitudes Republicans can feel comfortable with:McCain: I'm blessed to be here, and owe everything to my country.Michelle Obama: Supporting my husband is the first decent thing this lousy country has done in a long time. National Review OnlineGood thing Michelle is not running for Pres

 

[adonis]

And then we come to Michelle Obama, who suggests that her husband's success is her first reason to feel pride in America in her adult life. Others have addressed the numerous and obvious reasons for pride that easily fit the time period of "her adult life."

Talk about a gross misrepresentation of what she said.

 

[bigbottom]

Hillary needs every eligible voter south of San Antonio to show up to get a decisive victory in Texas. The momentum for Obama is so great that Dallas and Houston are likely to be overwhelmingly Obama.

Here are some interesting stats from the early voting numbers in Harris County (Houston):

Harris County early voting off to a blazing start

Heat of big races is drawing many more to the polls

By ALLAN TURNER

Cedric Willis is an independent voter craving change; Louis and Karen Becerra are Republicans demanding an equitable immigration policy; Michael Panesar is a Democrat looking for a president who would exhibit cultural sensitivity in the Middle East.

Although they expressed dramatically divergent views on national and world affairs, Willis, Panesar, the Becerras and others were in complete agreement on one point: 2008 is shaping up to be the most exciting political year in recent memory. The political enthusiasts were among the first to cast their ballots Tuesday as Harris County opened 35 polling spots for early primary voting.

By the end of the day, 9,233 ballots were cast in the Democratic primary; 2,914 in the Republican, said Harris County Clerk's spokesman Hector de Leon. First-day totals for early voting in the 2004 presidential primary totaled 849 in the Democratic contests and 678 in the Republican.

"I think a lot of people are watching the national primaries," de Leon said. "They recognize Texas has a role to play."

Sure, the primaries are typically decided by the time things get to Texas, but a tenfold increase in Day One early voting? I've got to think that sort of excitement favors Obama who was speaking at the Toyota Center in downtown Houston last night.

Obama expressly asked the Houston crowd to vote early last night during his speech. Pretty sure that's where the numbers are coming from.

I think the polls from yesterday were already closed by the time he gave that speech. The numbers today may be even greater.

 

[flufhed]

And then we come to Michelle Obama, who suggests that her husband's success is her first reason to feel pride in America in her adult life. Others have addressed the numerous and obvious reasons for pride that easily fit the time period of "her adult life."

Talk about a gross misrepresentation of what she said.

Hey, why does that quote me? I didn't make that statement. I'm drinkin' the koolaid here, man!

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

And then we come to Michelle Obama, who suggests that her husband's success is her first reason to feel pride in America in her adult life. Others have addressed the numerous and obvious reasons for pride that easily fit the time period of "her adult life."

Talk about a gross misrepresentation of what she said.

This could use its own thread. It may even go to several pages of semantics and straw man arguments.

 

[flufhed]

And then we come to Michelle Obama, who suggests that her husband's success is her first reason to feel pride in America in her adult life. Others have addressed the numerous and obvious reasons for pride that easily fit the time period of "her adult life."

Talk about a gross misrepresentation of what she said.

This could use its own thread. It may even go to several pages of semantics and straw man arguments.

 

[adonis]

And then we come to Michelle Obama, who suggests that her husband's success is her first reason to feel pride in America in her adult life. Others have addressed the numerous and obvious reasons for pride that easily fit the time period of "her adult life."

Talk about a gross misrepresentation of what she said.

This could use its own thread. It may even go to several pages of semantics and straw man arguments.

Shame on you for saying that about Michelle Obama.

 

[cosjobs]

Cab Drinkers Support Obama, McCain Claims Pinot Noir

Recent polls, conducted during Winebat.com’s weekly wine tasting events in Austin, TX show the majority of those in attendance (79%) prefer red wine over white wine (12%). Those who had no wine preference made up about 9% of the pollsters. Of those red wine fans, 30% support Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential campaign and 20% are in the John McCain camp. Hillary Clinton garnered 6% of the votes and those undecided accounted for a full 30%. Undecided but Democrat brought in 8%.

The candidates received more even support from white wine drinkers with Obama getting 30% of the votes, McCain with 30%, Clinton with 10%, undecided at 20%, and undecided but Democrat with 10% of the votes.

When asked to name their favorite grape varietal, 38% of respondents went for Cabernet Sauvignon. Pinot Noir was the second most popular garnering 17% of the votes. Syrah ranked third at just under 10%. Obama was the favorite candidate among Cabernet Sauvignon aficionados with 50% of the votes. 35% of Cab drinkers were undecided, 10% undecided but Democrat, and just 5% supported McCain. However when it came to those who prefer Pinot Noir, McCain received the lion’s share of votes at 55%, followed by Obama at 22%, Clinton 11%, and those undecided also at 11%. Syrah was dead even with McCain, Obama and Clinton each receiving 20%. 40% of Syrah fans were undecided.

So which candidate’s supporters drink the most wine? Undecided Democrats purchase 10.3 bottles per month on average. Clinton supporters buy 9.6 bottles per month. McCain’s camp is next at 9.3 and finally Obama’s crew comes in at 7.9 bottles per month.

Polls conducted Feb.11 and Feb.18, 2008. 81 participants (53 female; 28 male)

 

[aardball44]

Wow. Chris Matthews just stuck it to some Congressman from Texas who is a big Obama supporter.

Who was it?

Texas state senator Kirk Watson.

Here's his statement following the debacle. Funny. Self-effacing.

 

[saintfool]

Wow. Chris Matthews just stuck it to some Congressman from Texas who is a big Obama supporter.

Who was it?

Texas state senator Kirk Watson.

Here's his statement following the debacle. Funny. Self-effacing.

i would love to see him on "The Colbert Report" next...

 

[The_Man]

Cab Drinkers Support Obama, McCain Claims Pinot Noir Recent polls, conducted during Winebat.com’s weekly wine tasting events in Austin, TX show the majority of those in attendance (79%) prefer red wine over white wine (12%). Those who had no wine preference made up about 9% of the pollsters. Of those red wine fans, 30% support Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential campaign and 20% are in the John McCain camp. Hillary Clinton garnered 6% of the votes and those undecided accounted for a full 30%. Undecided but Democrat brought in 8%.

I keep hearing that as an Obama suporter, what I really like to drink is the Kool Aid.

 

[Clayton Gray]

There have been 36 contests so far (including FL and MI). Obama won WI with 58% of the vote. Many of us thought it would be a close contest - and the national media was ready to spin a close Hillary loss as a "moral victory."

Well, how many contests has Hillary won at least 58% of the vote? I'll tell you: ONE In Arkansas.

Not in NY. Not in Mass. Not in California. Not even including MI, where she was the only major candidate on the ballot.

So, now all of a sudden, she's going to win 65% of the rest of the vote in the "big states?" Not likely.

In all fairness, Clinton's wins occurred when Edwards was still in the race.

9 of Clintons wins occurred after Edwards dropped out, and 4 occurred before he dropped out. And two of those four wins were Michigan and Florida.

Yikes. For some reason, I thought he was still around for Super Tuesday.

 

[Clayton Gray]

Wow. Chris Matthews just stuck it to some Congressman from Texas who is a big Obama supporter.

Who was it?

Texas state senator Kirk Watson.

Here's his statement following the debacle. Funny. Self-effacing.

i would love to see him on "The Colbert Report" next...

He better study a lot before his next appearance.

 

[TwinTurbo]

I don't want to go back and forth on the Pakistan issue. We get too caught up in trying to "catch" these guys saying something they didn't mean or regret later. I've done this too much myself on this issue and others, and I regret it. The only important question to decide is what they will do once they're in office.

Given this, I personally will wait until a debate between McCain and Obama which references Pakistan before I refer to it again in the context of this election, unless some emergency happens earlier which forces their views to be in more of a spotlight.

You can't unstir a pot.Your work is done.

timschochet's work is never done. Whenever there's a need to make McCain supporters look bad, timschochet will be there. Whenever it's time for someone to start a meaningless poll on a topic that's already on page 1, timschochet will be there. Whenever the boards cry out for redundant posts in two simultaneously-running threads, timschochet will be there. Oh, no, my friend. His work continues.

The unfortunate thing is that he has flashes of reasonableness, but then I go into the mccain thread and try to rationally discuss things and I'm thrown a bunch of rhetorical nonsense. If he could stick to issues and be reasonable, I think he'd be an asset, but instead I see him all too often resorting to hyperbole and political speak.

I think you just described Obama too

 

[dugout]

The latest speech in a nutshell

That comes pretty close, though he does do a great job of delivering it, and people are buying into this.

Which is really sad that people aren't smart enough to realize that.

 

[D_House]

The latest speech in a nutshell

That comes pretty close, though he does do a great job of delivering it, and people are buying into this.

Which is really sad that people aren't smart enough to realize that.

 

[ericttspikes]

The latest speech in a nutshell

That comes pretty close, though he does do a great job of delivering it, and people are buying into this.

Which is really sad that people aren't smart enough to realize that.

What's really sad is the people saying other people aren't smart for supporting Obama are usually the same geniuses that voted for Bush twice.

 

[Steeler07]

vigotona literally means "the bearded woman at the circus", but is also apparently the biggest insult you can pay to a female in spanish. Another hispanic for Obama!

Wrong, in both accounts.

 

[saintfool]

vigotona literally means "the bearded woman at the circus", but is also apparently the biggest insult you can pay to a female in spanish. Another hispanic for Obama!

Wrong, in both accounts.

that would require a woman being called "abevigoda".

 

[Orange Crush]

vigotona literally means "the bearded woman at the circus", but is also apparently the biggest insult you can pay to a female in spanish. Another hispanic for Obama!

Wrong, in both accounts.

"in both accounts"???What, checking AND savings?

 

[shining path]

The latest speech in a nutshell

That comes pretty close, though he does do a great job of delivering it, and people are buying into this.

Which is really sad that people aren't smart enough to realize that.

What's really sad is the people saying other people aren't smart for supporting Obama are usually the same geniuses that voted for Bush twice.

A very, very, very good point.

 

[dugout]

The latest speech in a nutshell

That comes pretty close, though he does do a great job of delivering it, and people are buying into this.

Which is really sad that people aren't smart enough to realize that.

What's really sad is the people saying other people aren't smart for supporting Obama are usually the same geniuses that voted for Bush twice.

A very, very, very good point.

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

 

[shining path]

The latest speech in a nutshell

That comes pretty close, though he does do a great job of delivering it, and people are buying into this.

Which is really sad that people aren't smart enough to realize that.

What's really sad is the people saying other people aren't smart for supporting Obama are usually the same geniuses that voted for Bush twice.

A very, very, very good point.

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

What's really sad is that you actually buy into that.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

Look around. We couldn't have made a worse choice.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

Look around. We couldn't have made a worse choice.

Oh I see, you're a hindsight genius. Now I get it.

 

[LHUCKS]

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

Look around. We couldn't have made a worse choice.

Oh I see, you're a hindsight genius. Now I get it.

Some of us were in here informing this messageboard BEFORE the last two election....BEFORE.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

Look around. We couldn't have made a worse choice.

Oh I see, you're a hindsight genius. Now I get it.

Not hindsight. It was foresight for some. It was, however, hindsight for others. And some were, and are still, blind.But none of that matters. It still remains that the choice couldnt have been worse.

 

[Clayton Gray]

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

Look around. We couldn't have made a worse choice.

Oh I see, you're a hindsight genius. Now I get it.

People that never voted for Bush aren't using hindsight.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

Look around. We couldn't have made a worse choice.

Oh I see, you're a hindsight genius. Now I get it.

Some of us were in here informing this messageboard BEFORE the last two election....BEFORE.

Informing the message board of what? That airplanes would someday slam into an American icon? That "W" would make a play for the oil market? That we would wage war on a faceless enemy on their soil before they brought footsoldiers to ours? What did you inform the board?

 

[The Juggernaut]

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

Look around. We couldn't have made a worse choice.

Oh I see, you're a hindsight genius. Now I get it.

This guy shames Mookie's good name.Mods, please ban.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

Look around. We couldn't have made a worse choice.

Oh I see, you're a hindsight genius. Now I get it.

Not hindsight. It was foresight for some. It was, however, hindsight for others. And some were, and are still, blind.But none of that matters. It still remains that the choice couldnt have been worse.

But see, you have no way to prove that. So why bark up that tree? This does not help our cause as Americans, it only continues to divide us. Saying I told you so sounds the same at 5 as it does at 25 and 35...

 

[shining path]

Considering Bush was up against Gore and Kerry? I think America made the correct choice.

Look around. We couldn't have made a worse choice.

Oh I see, you're a hindsight genius. Now I get it.

Not hindsight. It was foresight for some. It was, however, hindsight for others. And some were, and are still, blind.

But none of that matters. It still remains that the choice couldnt have been worse.

But see, you have no way to prove that. So why bark up that tree? This does not help our cause as Americans, it only continues to divide us. Saying I told you so sounds the same at 5 as it does at 25 and 35...

Sorry, good point.Instead, I shall serenade Bush with this haunting melody:

You did your best

But I guess your best wasn't good enough

So here we are back where we were before

Seems nothing ever changes

we're back to being strangers

somethingsomethingsomething

or head on out the dooooooor

Just once

Can we find a way to finally make it right

make the magic last for more than just one night

Thank you. Obama 08.