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[Arsenal of Doom]

I just wanted to point out that McCain is only get 72% of the Republican primary votes. Paul is getting 16% and Huckabee 12%.

Obviously most Republicans are sitting it out, but it's somewhat amusing that McCain is only going to get 72% as the only candidate still running. For as much attention as the Democrats divided house is getting, things are hardly perfect on the Republican side even though they are settled on a candidate.

 

[phthalatemagic]

"this is our country..."ugh

You beat me by 3 Os.

 

[adonis]

54% 855,240

46% 718,342

73% reporting

 

[Mark Davis]

Been holding OK at 54/46 Clinton. That coul dbe a good final tally61% reporting54/46 699,573/586,963

If it went 50/50 from here it would be great.But its going to go 54/46 from here and the 8 point margin will end up at 10 or so. Which is what was to be expected.If it hits 11%, then I will win* my pool and lunches for two weeks, which is good enough for me.

Chester has not even reported yet. Not sure how many people in that county actually got out and voted, but i would expect it to fall for Obama. This should hold it at 8 for Obama :hoping:Also, i'm not real good at math, but if its at 54/46 now and continued to go 54/46, wouldn't that make the final tally 54/46?

Correct on Chester Co, Philadelphia is 94% in.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

8% is not enough for Clinton to call this a win IMOShe needed double digits. Does anyone know what districts are reporting? Rural ones? Urban ones?

Philly and Pitt are just about in. Harrisburg is barely in and most of SE PA (excluding Philly) is only at ~20%. I think Obama has a real good chance to hold strong at 54-46 and possibly even climb a bit higher (as in closer)

 

[cobalt_27]

stating that I disagree with a demographic is not bigoted...you need to find yourself a dictionary.

Thank you for inviting me to do just that:bigot : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.

Your quote: "Truly saddening that these people are having this kind of a negative impact on our political system...and on our nation's policies."

Great now look up "hatred" and "intolerant" and ask yourself if that applies to my statement.I'm waiting for your apology.

Described perfectly to your views, and you will never get an apology for me characterizing your comments accurately like this.

Ridiculous that you can't even provide support for your demeaning comments...surprised your still in this thread to be honest.

I'm in this thread because I'm calling it exactly how it is with you, and I haven't said a word that's in conflict with the truth. Support is of the public record, and everyone knows your track record here, hucks.

 

[Hammered Finz]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHillary played the "this is our country" song.....

Last football season called and wants it's song back

 

[phthalatemagic]

8% is not enough for Clinton to call this a win IMOShe needed double digits. Does anyone know what districts are reporting? Rural ones? Urban ones?

Probably going to end around 10, given many rural counties are yet to report, and Philly didn't push Obama as expected

Ohhhh I didn't know Philly was in. I guess I should get more sources than CNN

 

[cobalt_27]

Meanwhile...

Hillary is winning by...8%?

That's not good for her. Not good at all.

 

[cobalt_27]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHillary played the "this is our country" song.....

Last football season called and wants it's song back

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

8% is not enough for Clinton to call this a win IMOShe needed double digits. Does anyone know what districts are reporting? Rural ones? Urban ones?

Probably going to end around 10, given many rural counties are yet to report, and Philly didn't push Obama as expected

not according to the maps i see. Most of rural PA is in...its SE PA (Excluding Philly) that has lagged.

 

[adonis]

54% 884,709

46% 743,764

75% reporting

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

anyone who has ever been to Chester can only imagine why its taking so long to get the votes in. What Cluster#### of a county

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

stating that I disagree with a demographic is not bigoted...you need to find yourself a dictionary.

Thank you for inviting me to do just that:bigot : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.

Your quote: "Truly saddening that these people are having this kind of a negative impact on our political system...and on our nation's policies."

Great now look up "hatred" and "intolerant" and ask yourself if that applies to my statement.I'm waiting for your apology.

Described perfectly to your views, and you will never get an apology for me characterizing your comments accurately like this.

Ridiculous that you can't even provide support for your demeaning comments...surprised your still in this thread to be honest.

Anytime you say things like "these people" it implies a measure of contempt at the least, and certainly you leave yourself open to an accusation of hatred and intolerance. You should really dial down the rhetoric. Others are correct, you would be just as offended if people spoke in those terms about a racial or gender/sexual group.

 

[Tigran Petrosian]

I have to say...these rural voters are pissing me off. They voted for Bush the last two elections and now they're keeping Hillary in the race...Hillary is not half the candidate that Obama is.Truly saddening that these people are having this kind of a negative impact on our political system...and on our nation's policies.

You know...You and I are on the same page only in terms of whom we support. But, you are the most ignorant, bigoted person here in how you choose to express your opinions. Your South/Rural shtick has already been put out to the woodshed by the mods here. Engage in an intelligent discussion for once.

Yup.

 

[LHUCKS]

Are superdelegates really going to give their votes to a candidate that is all but broke this late in the game???

I think I'm going to give another hundy to Barack.

 

[timschochet]

Meanwhile...Hillary is winning by...8%?That's not good for her. Not good at all.

You're right. But it's not good for Obama either. You've got to realize that the average American hasn't really been paying attention to the details of this race. They're going to read their papers tommorow, and see the headline, "Hillary wins" and they're going to wonder, "Why didn't Obama win?" They won't look at the total numbers, or what's going to happen next. All they'll think is that maybe he's not so strong a candidate, and this could stick in their minds. The independents could swing to McCain in November for no other reason than they like winners.

 

[LHUCKS]

Anytime you say things like "these people" it implies a measure of contempt at the least

It does?

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

I have a hard time trying to relate to people that think that McCain or Clinton would be a better presidential candidate, what are "these people" thinking? Seriously, did I miss the boat?

 

[cobalt_27]

Anytime you say things like "these people" it implies a measure of contempt at the least

It does?

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

New drinking game, everytime an "analyst" says "Obama can't close the deal!" Send in a hundred to Obama campaign.

 

[Tigran Petrosian]

I'm laughing at this 8% line that the pundits are drawing out. 8% was the expectation based on the latest polling data, it has nothing to do with what she needs to do.

It's lovely that she's winning states like PA. It really is. The problem is that it's too little too late. If she wasn't so far behind, we might have a story here. The media is really milking this. Guess I can't expect anything otherwise.

 

[adonis]

54% 913,973

46% 764,044

78%

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I'm laughing at this 8% line that the pundits are drawing out. 8% was the expectation based on the latest polling data, it has nothing to do with what she needs to do.It's lovely that she's winning states like PA. It really is. The problem is that it's too little too late. If she wasn't so far behind, we might have a story here. The media is really milking this. Guess I can't expect anything otherwise.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Demos are milking this also.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Looks like a rock concert in Evansville!

 

[adonis]

Obama's chatting now.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Anytime you say things like "these people" it implies a measure of contempt at the least

It does?

Yes. Doubly so when you go on to rant about how wrong they are compared to your point of view.

 

[Hammered Finz]

I'm laughing at this 8% line that the pundits are drawing out. 8% was the expectation based on the latest polling data, it has nothing to do with what she needs to do.It's lovely that she's winning states like PA. It really is. The problem is that it's too little too late. If she wasn't so far behind, we might have a story here. The media is really milking this. Guess I can't expect anything otherwise.

I agree about the media, but it really is a close race, otherwise one of the candidates would have the required delegates sewed up by now. I've said it for awhile now, but this is going to the convention.....

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

I'm laughing at this 8% line that the pundits are drawing out. 8% was the expectation based on the latest polling data, it has nothing to do with what she needs to do.It's lovely that she's winning states like PA. It really is. The problem is that it's too little too late. If she wasn't so far behind, we might have a story here. The media is really milking this. Guess I can't expect anything otherwise.

i love the argument that "he's up by only a 100-150 delegates, thats nothing". The same people who say its not that big of a lead are the ones who fail to recognize how difficult it is to build that kind of lead in a proportional delegate distribution system.

 

[adonis]

Back to 10% with 78% reporting.

 

[cobalt_27]

I'm laughing at this 8% line that the pundits are drawing out. 8% was the expectation based on the latest polling data, it has nothing to do with what she needs to do.It's lovely that she's winning states like PA. It really is. The problem is that it's too little too late. If she wasn't so far behind, we might have a story here. The media is really milking this. Guess I can't expect anything otherwise.

Outlets like CNN have a vested interest in seeing this drawn out. But, you would think that a show that supposedly does analyses on these sorts of things would indicate what a MONUMENTAL feat it would be for Hillary to actually come out of this thing. Shows that it's really more of an entertainment business. Nothing new here, I guess, but still...

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHillary played the "this is our country" song.....

Last football season called and wants it's song back

WHO LET THE DOGS OUT??

 

[cobalt_27]

Back to 10% with 78% reporting.

10-12 should be the final number, me thinks.

 

[Tigran Petrosian]

I agree about the media, but it really is a close race

It's just not. I don't know how else to convince you of it.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Obama is going to put Clinton on his ticket! Just wanted to be the one to say it at 9 48 pm central time on 22 April 2008.

 

[adonis]

55% 920,002

45% 770,000

78% reporting

 

[Hammered Finz]

I agree about the media, but it really is a close race

It's just not. I don't know how else to convince you of it.

You don't have to convince me.. convince the Dems to push Obama over the hump.. it hasn't happened yet, and neither will reach the magic delegate number.. Popular vote is within 2%, maybe closer depending on who you listen too..

 

[phthalatemagic]

55% 920,00245% 770,00078% reporting

No good....Did I hear the same freaking song play in the Obama speech as the Clinton speech? Damn that John Mellencamp

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Obama is going to put Clinton on his ticket! Just wanted to be the one to say it at 9 48 pm central time on 22 April 2008.

No he is not. Thats one of the reasons its getting strung along.

 

[RedRaiders]

70% of the voters today in PA were over 45...and my new home state of FLA gets the "old" rep? G-d i cant wait until the boomer generation is senile and in depends

But of course...she's going to make healthcare free for everybody...didn't you hear?

You can attack the voters in places like rural Ohio, rural Pennsylvania, and the older voters in Florida. But your candidate had best find a way to appeal to the likes of the very people you intended to insult and show arrogance to if he plans to win in November. I dare say, without those three states even the brightest math scholars in the entire Pac-10 are going to have a tough time finding 270 EVs.

Just because he's losing those states to Hillary doesn't mean he'd lose them to McCain...the Democratic party is as energized as it has ever been.

Yet this is assumed over and over again in here. Hundreds of thousands of new voters and people think they'll switch to McCain?

 

[shining path]

Good advertising for Abercrombie and Fitch.

 

[Trey]

Clinton had a great comment today during her speech which I'm sure not many watched.

I was able to grow up taking for granted a woman's right to vote.

My daughter was able to grow up taking for granted schooling with children of all races.

And today's children will be able to grow up taking for granted that it is possible for a woman and an African American to become President of the United States.

I love when the Dems offer up a classy comment.

 

[Tigran Petrosian]

Good advertising for Abercrombie and Fitch.

lol

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Obama is going to put Clinton on his ticket! Just wanted to be the one to say it at 9 48 pm central time on 22 April 2008.

No he is not. Thats one of the reasons its getting strung along.

I can't think of another person who can bring the support, clout, or money that Hillary will. I guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[adonis]

10% gap, 83% reporting

 

[Mark Davis]

70% of the voters today in PA were over 45...and my new home state of FLA gets the "old" rep? G-d i cant wait until the boomer generation is senile and in depends

But of course...she's going to make healthcare free for everybody...didn't you hear?

You can attack the voters in places like rural Ohio, rural Pennsylvania, and the older voters in Florida. But your candidate had best find a way to appeal to the likes of the very people you intended to insult and show arrogance to if he plans to win in November. I dare say, without those three states even the brightest math scholars in the entire Pac-10 are going to have a tough time finding 270 EVs.

Just because he's losing those states to Hillary doesn't mean he'd lose them to McCain...the Democratic party is as energized as it has ever been.

Yet this is assumed over and over again in here. Hundreds of thousands of new voters and people think they'll switch to McCain?

Help me with this rationale, weren't the new voters who registered largely for Obama already? Once again, not California Democrats, but Ohio Democrats, Pennsylvania Democrats, etc. are the ones who showed a resistance to voting for Obama over McCain in November if he's the nominee. By in large these are blue collar type people, not the younger or more liberal types of Democrats. Don't take my word for it, look at the exit polls.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Obama is going to put Clinton on his ticket! Just wanted to be the one to say it at 9 48 pm central time on 22 April 2008.

No he is not. Thats one of the reasons its getting strung along.

I can't think of another person who can bring the support, clout, or money that Hillary will. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Oh, she could add a ton of voters to his side in the general. The Repubs would likely be squished.I just think that Obama wants to make things better, and he would prefer to have his selection for something more then garnering additional votes.Surely he knows that he may have to go this route - but its not his number one choice currently.

 

[Mark Davis]

Chester Co. finally coming in. It's now at 21% with a 54/46 split for Obama.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Obama is going to put Clinton on his ticket! Just wanted to be the one to say it at 9 48 pm central time on 22 April 2008.

No he is not. Thats one of the reasons its getting strung along.

I can't think of another person who can bring the support, clout, or money that Hillary will. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Oh, she could add a ton of voters to his side in the general. The Repubs would likely be squished.I just think that Obama wants to make things better, and he would prefer to have his selection for something more then garnering additional votes.Surely he knows that he may have to go this route - but its not his number one choice currently.

Oh, I whole heartedly agree with you, I cannot see him winning without her. But, I am making this assumption from watching FOX news reporting that his Rev. Wright, and that "bomber guy" will get him destroyed in the general election.

 

[EBF]

It would be really nice to get that lead down to single digits.

In either case, this night doesn't change the election. Hillary won't quit. I was really hoping tonight would be her last stand, but this seemingly endless process will be dragged on even further now.