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Just got back from the rally in Reno, really good turnout

a couple of pics with my ####ty 1.3 megapixel camera on my smart phone:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/hof.../0930080844.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/hof.../0930080850.jpg

The line in front of us, and behind us

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/hof...0930080905a.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/hof...0930080905b.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/hof.../0930081054.jpg

some McCain supporters and a Nader supporter oool.

and....

The little spec that is Obama

What was said minus some chit chat with the crowd can be found here:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...eno/#more-21523

 
What was said minus some chit chat with the crowd can be found here:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...eno/#more-21523
Obama has Bush's back on the bailout.
I know that many of you are feeling anxiety right now – about your jobs, about your homes, about your life savings. But I also know this – I know that we can steer ourselves out of this crisis. Because that’s who we are. Because this is the United States of America. This is a nation that has faced down war and depression; great challenges and great threats. And at each and every moment, we have risen to meet these challenges – not as Democrats, not as Republicans, but as Americans. With resolve. With confidence. With that fundamental belief that here in America, our destiny is not written for us, but by us. That’s who we are, and that’s the country we need to be right now.

This is no longer just a Wall Street crisis – it’s an American crisis, and it’s the American economy that needs this rescue plan. I understand why people would be skeptical when this President asks for a blank check to solve a problem. I’ve spent most of my time in Washington being skeptical of this Administration, and this time was no different. That’s why over a week ago, I demanded that this plan include specific proposals to protect American taxpayer – protections that the Administration eventually agreed to, as well as Democrats and Republicans in Congress.

First, I said we needed an independent board to provide oversight and accountability for how and where this money is spent at every step of the way.

Second, I said that we cannot help banks on Wall Street without helping the millions of innocent homeowners who are struggling to stay in their homes. They deserve a plan too.

Third, I said that I would not allow this plan to become a welfare program for the Wall Street executives whose greed and irresponsibility got us into this mess.

And finally, I said that if American taxpayers are financing this solution, then you should be treated like investors – you should get every penny of your tax dollars back once this economy recovers.

This last part is important, because it’s been the most misunderstood and poorly communicated aspect of this entire plan. This is not a plan to just hand over $700 billion of your money to a few banks on Wall Street. If this is executed the right way, then the government will temporarily purchase the bad assets of our financial institutions so that they can start lending again, and then sell those assets once the markets settle down and the economy recovers. If this is managed correctly, we will hopefully get most or all of our money back, or possibly even turn a profit on the government’s investment – every penny of which will go directly back to you, the investor. And if we do have losses, I’ve proposed to institute a Financial Stability Fee on the entire financial services industry so that Wall Street foots the bill – not the American taxpayer. I’ve also said that if I’m President, I will review the entire plan on the day I take office to make sure that it is working to save our economy and that you are getting your money back.

Even with all these taxpayer protections, I know that this plan is not perfect or fool-proof. No matter how well we manage the government’s investments under this plan, we are still putting taxpayer dollars at risk. I know that there are Democrats and Republicans in Congress who have legitimate concerns about this, and I know there are many Americans who share those concerns.

But I also know that we can’t afford not to act. Both parties are close to accepting this plan, and over the next few hours and days, we should seek out any new ideas that might get this done. This morning, I proposed one such idea that might increase bipartisan support for this plan and shore up our economy at the same time: expanding federal deposit insurance for families and small businesses across America who have invested their money in our banks.

The majority of American families should rest assured that the deposits they have in our banks of up to $100,000 are still guaranteed by the federal government. That guarantee is more than adequate for most families, but it is insufficient for many small businesses to meet their payroll, buy their supplies, and create new jobs. The current insurance limit of $100,000 was set 28 years ago and has not been adjusted for inflation. I’ve proposed raising the FDIC limit to $250,000 – a step that would boost small businesses, make our banking system more secure, and help restore confidence by reassuring families that their money is safe.

That’s one idea. If there are others that can help shore up support for this plan and shore up our economy, I encourage Democrats and Republicans to offer them. But we must act and we must act now. We cannot have another day like yesterday. We cannot risk another week or another month where American businesses are afraid to extend credit and lend money. That is not an option for this country.

For the rest of today and as long as it takes, I will continue to reach out to leaders in both parties and do whatever I can to help pass a rescue plan. To the Democrats and Republicans who opposed this plan yesterday, I say – step up to the plate and do what’s right for this country. And to all Americans, I say this – if I am President of the United States, this rescue plan will not be the end of what we do to strengthen this economy – it will only be the beginning.
I don't agree with Obama on this bailout, but by throwing his support behind this so clearly - it will surely be done.
 
Intrade is now predicting a landslide here:

Obama: 63.7

McCain: 35.9

and the Electoral Map is currently at 338 to 200 (was 353 to 185 earlier as NC was blue too for a bit)

I think McCain was doing a lot better when he suspended his campaign.

 
Well its been a nice recovery in the polls, no doubt in part due to the economic crisis. But the first debate looms and there I don't see how Obama can win this. We're going to get Saddleback again. Obama will mutter as he gets lost in his train of thought, trying to be nuanced but coming off milquetoast. McCain will be decisive, strong, and engaging. The ivory tower crowd will gush that Obama won, and McCain will surge in the polls. That's when the democrats go into panic mode.
I thought McCain was supposed to start surging in the polls right after he dominated the first debate.
Also, democrats are currently in panic mode.
We now have two days of McCain's post-debate surge under our belts.
What's the deal with Battleground Tracking? They always have McCain up.
According to fivethirtyeight.com, they don't balance their sample for age, so they tend to over-sample old folks and under sample young folks. Obama's killing McCain in the youth vote, so their polls skew towards McCain.
 
Well its been a nice recovery in the polls, no doubt in part due to the economic crisis. But the first debate looms and there I don't see how Obama can win this. We're going to get Saddleback again. Obama will mutter as he gets lost in his train of thought, trying to be nuanced but coming off milquetoast. McCain will be decisive, strong, and engaging. The ivory tower crowd will gush that Obama won, and McCain will surge in the polls. That's when the democrats go into panic mode.
I thought McCain was supposed to start surging in the polls right after he dominated the first debate.
Also, democrats are currently in panic mode.
We now have two days of McCain's post-debate surge under our belts.
What's the deal with Battleground Tracking? They always have McCain up.
According to fivethirtyeight.com, they don't balance their sample for age, so they tend to over-sample old folks and under sample young folks. Obama's killing McCain in the youth vote, so their polls skew towards McCain.
And even with that, Battleground now has Obama at +2, 48-46.
 
Just got back from the rally in Reno, really good turnout

a couple of pics with my ####ty 1.3 megapixel camera on my smart phone:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/hof.../0930080844.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/hof.../0930080850.jpg

The line in front of us, and behind us

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/hof...0930080905a.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/hof...0930080905b.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s47/hof.../0930081054.jpg

some McCain supporters and a Nader supporter oool.

and....

The little spec that is Obama

What was said minus some chit chat with the crowd can be found here:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...eno/#more-21523
Is that a sniper up in the bell tower?
 
What was said minus some chit chat with the crowd can be found here:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...eno/#more-21523
Obama has Bush's back on the bailout.
I know that many of you are feeling anxiety right now – about your jobs, about your homes, about your life savings. But I also know this – I know that we can steer ourselves out of this crisis. Because that’s who we are. Because this is the United States of America. This is a nation that has faced down war and depression; great challenges and great threats. And at each and every moment, we have risen to meet these challenges – not as Democrats, not as Republicans, but as Americans. With resolve. With confidence. With that fundamental belief that here in America, our destiny is not written for us, but by us. That’s who we are, and that’s the country we need to be right now.

This is no longer just a Wall Street crisis – it’s an American crisis, and it’s the American economy that needs this rescue plan. I understand why people would be skeptical when this President asks for a blank check to solve a problem. I’ve spent most of my time in Washington being skeptical of this Administration, and this time was no different. That’s why over a week ago, I demanded that this plan include specific proposals to protect American taxpayer – protections that the Administration eventually agreed to, as well as Democrats and Republicans in Congress.

First, I said we needed an independent board to provide oversight and accountability for how and where this money is spent at every step of the way.

Second, I said that we cannot help banks on Wall Street without helping the millions of innocent homeowners who are struggling to stay in their homes. They deserve a plan too.

Third, I said that I would not allow this plan to become a welfare program for the Wall Street executives whose greed and irresponsibility got us into this mess.

And finally, I said that if American taxpayers are financing this solution, then you should be treated like investors – you should get every penny of your tax dollars back once this economy recovers.

This last part is important, because it’s been the most misunderstood and poorly communicated aspect of this entire plan. This is not a plan to just hand over $700 billion of your money to a few banks on Wall Street. If this is executed the right way, then the government will temporarily purchase the bad assets of our financial institutions so that they can start lending again, and then sell those assets once the markets settle down and the economy recovers. If this is managed correctly, we will hopefully get most or all of our money back, or possibly even turn a profit on the government’s investment – every penny of which will go directly back to you, the investor. And if we do have losses, I’ve proposed to institute a Financial Stability Fee on the entire financial services industry so that Wall Street foots the bill – not the American taxpayer. I’ve also said that if I’m President, I will review the entire plan on the day I take office to make sure that it is working to save our economy and that you are getting your money back.

Even with all these taxpayer protections, I know that this plan is not perfect or fool-proof. No matter how well we manage the government’s investments under this plan, we are still putting taxpayer dollars at risk. I know that there are Democrats and Republicans in Congress who have legitimate concerns about this, and I know there are many Americans who share those concerns.

But I also know that we can’t afford not to act. Both parties are close to accepting this plan, and over the next few hours and days, we should seek out any new ideas that might get this done. This morning, I proposed one such idea that might increase bipartisan support for this plan and shore up our economy at the same time: expanding federal deposit insurance for families and small businesses across America who have invested their money in our banks.

The majority of American families should rest assured that the deposits they have in our banks of up to $100,000 are still guaranteed by the federal government. That guarantee is more than adequate for most families, but it is insufficient for many small businesses to meet their payroll, buy their supplies, and create new jobs. The current insurance limit of $100,000 was set 28 years ago and has not been adjusted for inflation. I’ve proposed raising the FDIC limit to $250,000 – a step that would boost small businesses, make our banking system more secure, and help restore confidence by reassuring families that their money is safe.

That’s one idea. If there are others that can help shore up support for this plan and shore up our economy, I encourage Democrats and Republicans to offer them. But we must act and we must act now. We cannot have another day like yesterday. We cannot risk another week or another month where American businesses are afraid to extend credit and lend money. That is not an option for this country.

For the rest of today and as long as it takes, I will continue to reach out to leaders in both parties and do whatever I can to help pass a rescue plan. To the Democrats and Republicans who opposed this plan yesterday, I say – step up to the plate and do what’s right for this country. And to all Americans, I say this – if I am President of the United States, this rescue plan will not be the end of what we do to strengthen this economy – it will only be the beginning.
I don't agree with Obama on this bailout, but by throwing his support behind this so clearly - it will surely be done.
Should McCain do a commerical linking Bush/Obama on this?
 
What was said minus some chit chat with the crowd can be found here:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...eno/#more-21523
Obama has Bush's back on the bailout.
I know that many of you are feeling anxiety right now – about your jobs, about your homes, about your life savings. But I also know this – I know that we can steer ourselves out of this crisis. Because that’s who we are. Because this is the United States of America. This is a nation that has faced down war and depression; great challenges and great threats. And at each and every moment, we have risen to meet these challenges – not as Democrats, not as Republicans, but as Americans. With resolve. With confidence. With that fundamental belief that here in America, our destiny is not written for us, but by us. That’s who we are, and that’s the country we need to be right now.

This is no longer just a Wall Street crisis – it’s an American crisis, and it’s the American economy that needs this rescue plan. I understand why people would be skeptical when this President asks for a blank check to solve a problem. I’ve spent most of my time in Washington being skeptical of this Administration, and this time was no different. That’s why over a week ago, I demanded that this plan include specific proposals to protect American taxpayer – protections that the Administration eventually agreed to, as well as Democrats and Republicans in Congress.

First, I said we needed an independent board to provide oversight and accountability for how and where this money is spent at every step of the way.

Second, I said that we cannot help banks on Wall Street without helping the millions of innocent homeowners who are struggling to stay in their homes. They deserve a plan too.

Third, I said that I would not allow this plan to become a welfare program for the Wall Street executives whose greed and irresponsibility got us into this mess.

And finally, I said that if American taxpayers are financing this solution, then you should be treated like investors – you should get every penny of your tax dollars back once this economy recovers.

This last part is important, because it’s been the most misunderstood and poorly communicated aspect of this entire plan. This is not a plan to just hand over $700 billion of your money to a few banks on Wall Street. If this is executed the right way, then the government will temporarily purchase the bad assets of our financial institutions so that they can start lending again, and then sell those assets once the markets settle down and the economy recovers. If this is managed correctly, we will hopefully get most or all of our money back, or possibly even turn a profit on the government’s investment – every penny of which will go directly back to you, the investor. And if we do have losses, I’ve proposed to institute a Financial Stability Fee on the entire financial services industry so that Wall Street foots the bill – not the American taxpayer. I’ve also said that if I’m President, I will review the entire plan on the day I take office to make sure that it is working to save our economy and that you are getting your money back.

Even with all these taxpayer protections, I know that this plan is not perfect or fool-proof. No matter how well we manage the government’s investments under this plan, we are still putting taxpayer dollars at risk. I know that there are Democrats and Republicans in Congress who have legitimate concerns about this, and I know there are many Americans who share those concerns.

But I also know that we can’t afford not to act. Both parties are close to accepting this plan, and over the next few hours and days, we should seek out any new ideas that might get this done. This morning, I proposed one such idea that might increase bipartisan support for this plan and shore up our economy at the same time: expanding federal deposit insurance for families and small businesses across America who have invested their money in our banks.

The majority of American families should rest assured that the deposits they have in our banks of up to $100,000 are still guaranteed by the federal government. That guarantee is more than adequate for most families, but it is insufficient for many small businesses to meet their payroll, buy their supplies, and create new jobs. The current insurance limit of $100,000 was set 28 years ago and has not been adjusted for inflation. I’ve proposed raising the FDIC limit to $250,000 – a step that would boost small businesses, make our banking system more secure, and help restore confidence by reassuring families that their money is safe.

That’s one idea. If there are others that can help shore up support for this plan and shore up our economy, I encourage Democrats and Republicans to offer them. But we must act and we must act now. We cannot have another day like yesterday. We cannot risk another week or another month where American businesses are afraid to extend credit and lend money. That is not an option for this country.

For the rest of today and as long as it takes, I will continue to reach out to leaders in both parties and do whatever I can to help pass a rescue plan. To the Democrats and Republicans who opposed this plan yesterday, I say – step up to the plate and do what’s right for this country. And to all Americans, I say this – if I am President of the United States, this rescue plan will not be the end of what we do to strengthen this economy – it will only be the beginning.
I don't agree with Obama on this bailout, but by throwing his support behind this so clearly - it will surely be done.
Should McCain do a commerical linking Bush/Obama on this?
Is McCain still backing a deal as well? I haven't checked in the last few minutes.
 
Obama now up in Virginia. (Likely voter polls)

Code:
Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread RCP Average 09/17 - 09/28 -- 48.0 46.6 Obama +1.4 FOX News/Rasmussen 09/28 - 09/28 500 LV 50 47 Obama +3 NBC/Mason-Dixon 09/17 - 09/22 625 LV 44 47 McCain +3 ABC News/Wash Post 09/18 - 09/21 698 LV 49 46 Obama +3 SurveyUSA 09/19 - 09/21 716 LV 51 45 Obama +6 InAdv/PollPosition 09/17 - 09/17 502 LV 46 48 McCain +2
Didnt BGP, i mean KAA, say all the likely voter polls were going to show Obama was in real real trouble? :sadbanana:
 
Obama now up in Virginia. (Likely voter polls)

Code:
Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread RCP Average 09/17 - 09/28 -- 48.0 46.6 Obama +1.4 FOX News/Rasmussen 09/28 - 09/28 500 LV 50 47 Obama +3 NBC/Mason-Dixon 09/17 - 09/22 625 LV 44 47 McCain +3 ABC News/Wash Post 09/18 - 09/21 698 LV 49 46 Obama +3 SurveyUSA 09/19 - 09/21 716 LV 51 45 Obama +6 InAdv/PollPosition 09/17 - 09/17 502 LV 46 48 McCain +2
Didnt BGP, i mean KAA, say all the likely voter polls were going to show Obama was in real real trouble? :thumbup:
Bear in mind, all these polls slant Dem by at least 10 points. So what they're telling us is that instead of a massive historically unprecedented crushing defeat at the hands of McCain, Obama is merely going to be routed soundly.
 
Obama now up in Virginia. (Likely voter polls)

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread RCP Average 09/17 - 09/28 -- 48.0 46.6 Obama +1.4 FOX News/Rasmussen 09/28 - 09/28 500 LV 50 47 Obama +3 NBC/Mason-Dixon 09/17 - 09/22 625 LV 44 47 McCain +3 ABC News/Wash Post 09/18 - 09/21 698 LV 49 46 Obama +3 SurveyUSA 09/19 - 09/21 716 LV 51 45 Obama +6 InAdv/PollPosition 09/17 - 09/17 502 LV 46 48 McCain +2
Didnt BGP, i mean KAA, say all the likely voter polls were going to show Obama was in real real trouble? :eek:
Bear in mind, all these polls slant Dem by at least 10 points. So what they're telling us is that instead of a massive historically unprecedented crushing defeat at the hands of McCain, Obama is merely going to be routed soundly.
Still early my friends. Lets try not to get too cocky. We just need to keep the momentum going. I hope opinions like this are in the minority.

 
What was said minus some chit chat with the crowd can be found here:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...eno/#more-21523
Obama has Bush's back on the bailout.
This is no longer just a Wall Street crisis – it’s an American crisis, and it’s the American economy that needs this rescue plan. I understand why people would be skeptical when this President asks for a blank check to solve a problem. I’ve spent most of my time in Washington being skeptical of this Administration, and this time was no different.

<snip>

For the rest of today and as long as it takes, I will continue to reach out to leaders in both parties and do whatever I can to help pass a rescue plan. To the Democrats and Republicans who opposed this plan yesterday, I say – step up to the plate and do what’s right for this country. And to all Americans, I say this – if I am President of the United States, this rescue plan will not be the end of what we do to strengthen this economy – it will only be the beginning.
I don't agree with Obama on this bailout, but by throwing his support behind this so clearly - it will surely be done.
Should McCain do a commerical linking Bush/Obama on this?
Is McCain still backing a deal as well? I haven't checked in the last few minutes.
Interested in the answer to this. Has he come out strongly in support of any of the proposed solutions (other than his original campaign suspension, etc.)?Is he casting his lot with the leftist & the libertarians, with the other side being Bush/Obama?

 
Obama now up in Virginia. (Likely voter polls)

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread RCP Average 09/17 - 09/28 -- 48.0 46.6 Obama +1.4 FOX News/Rasmussen 09/28 - 09/28 500 LV 50 47 Obama +3 NBC/Mason-Dixon 09/17 - 09/22 625 LV 44 47 McCain +3 ABC News/Wash Post 09/18 - 09/21 698 LV 49 46 Obama +3 SurveyUSA 09/19 - 09/21 716 LV 51 45 Obama +6 InAdv/PollPosition 09/17 - 09/17 502 LV 46 48 McCain +2
Didnt BGP, i mean KAA, say all the likely voter polls were going to show Obama was in real real trouble? :blackdot:
Bear in mind, all these polls slant Dem by at least 10 points. So what they're telling us is that instead of a massive historically unprecedented crushing defeat at the hands of McCain, Obama is merely going to be routed soundly.
Still early my friends. Lets try not to get too cocky. We just need to keep the momentum going. I hope opinions like this are in the minority.
Inbreeding is a helluva drug.
 
Personal anecdote here:

I show up to work the front desk at campaign HQ last night (Monday) and the first thing they tell me is that if people call or walk in for Obama yard signs tell them we're out, we should have more in Friday or they can go to another HQ location for them. They sold their entire shipment for the week, 4000 signs delivered last Friday, in less than two days.

Caveat, this is Southern California we're talking about here.

:lmao:

 
Obama now up in Virginia. (Likely voter polls)

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread RCP Average 09/17 - 09/28 -- 48.0 46.6 Obama +1.4 FOX News/Rasmussen 09/28 - 09/28 500 LV 50 47 Obama +3 NBC/Mason-Dixon 09/17 - 09/22 625 LV 44 47 McCain +3 ABC News/Wash Post 09/18 - 09/21 698 LV 49 46 Obama +3 SurveyUSA 09/19 - 09/21 716 LV 51 45 Obama +6 InAdv/PollPosition 09/17 - 09/17 502 LV 46 48 McCain +2
Didnt BGP, i mean KAA, say all the likely voter polls were going to show Obama was in real real trouble? :rolleyes:
Bear in mind, all these polls slant Dem by at least 10 points. So what they're telling us is that instead of a massive historically unprecedented crushing defeat at the hands of McCain, Obama is merely going to be routed soundly.
Still early my friends. Lets try not to get too cocky. We just need to keep the momentum going. I hope opinions like this are in the minority.
Holy ####ing ####.
 
jdoggydogg said:
Smeagol said:
shining path said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
shining path said:
Obama now up in Virginia. (Likely voter polls)

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread RCP Average 09/17 - 09/28 -- 48.0 46.6 Obama +1.4 FOX News/Rasmussen 09/28 - 09/28 500 LV 50 47 Obama +3 NBC/Mason-Dixon 09/17 - 09/22 625 LV 44 47 McCain +3 ABC News/Wash Post 09/18 - 09/21 698 LV 49 46 Obama +3 SurveyUSA 09/19 - 09/21 716 LV 51 45 Obama +6 InAdv/PollPosition 09/17 - 09/17 502 LV 46 48 McCain +2
Didnt BGP, i mean KAA, say all the likely voter polls were going to show Obama was in real real trouble? :kicksrock:
Bear in mind, all these polls slant Dem by at least 10 points. So what they're telling us is that instead of a massive historically unprecedented crushing defeat at the hands of McCain, Obama is merely going to be routed soundly.
Still early my friends. Lets try not to get too cocky. We just need to keep the momentum going. I hope opinions like this are in the minority.
Holy ####ing ####.
God bless America?
 
This $700B bailout is going to buy Obama 4 years of economic prosperity.Good for him :confused:
:thumbdown: The economic woes that grew and grew under Bush's 8 year term, and while McCain was on capital hill, makes the american people reluctant to give the white house to a person intent on continuing the same failed economic policies of Bush. That's exactly what McCain will do, as he's voted 90% of the time with president Bush. His tax policies are out of touch, his understanding of the economy is woeful, and his decision making of late has been highly questionable.He's just not the right person for the job, and the economic crisis just brings that fact front and center to the american public.
 
OBAMA UP 15 IN PA

Obama grabs 15-point lead in Pa., poll says

Wednesday, October 01, 2008

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Democrat Barack Obama has surged into a 15-point lead over Republican John McCain in the presidential race among likely voters in Pennsylvania, according to the latest Quinnipiac University poll released this morning.

"Obama's 54-39 lead is tied heavily to the fact that Pennsylvania voters believe, 51-30, the Democrat won the debate with John McCain last Friday," said Clay F. Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. "[The poll] taken in the days leading up to the debate give Obama only a 6-point lead in Pennsylvania."

The latest poll also shows that 35 percent of likely voters said Mr. McCain's efforts in solving the economic crisis have been harmful, but 15 percent say that about Mr. Obama.

Quinnipiac University polls are conducted simultaneously in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, three so-called swing states.

The Quinnipiac poll shows Mr. Obama leading, 51-43, in Florida. He also leads, 50-42, in Ohio.

"No candidate since 1960 has been elected president without carrying two of the three states," Mr. Richards said.
 
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Well its been a nice recovery in the polls, no doubt in part due to the economic crisis. But the first debate looms and there I don't see how Obama can win this. We're going to get Saddleback again. Obama will mutter as he gets lost in his train of thought, trying to be nuanced but coming off milquetoast. McCain will be decisive, strong, and engaging. The ivory tower crowd will gush that Obama won, and McCain will surge in the polls. That's when the democrats go into panic mode.
I thought McCain was supposed to start surging in the polls right after he dominated the first debate.
Also, democrats are currently in panic mode.
We now have two days of McCain's post-debate surge under our belts.
Day Four of the McCain Surge
 
Well its been a nice recovery in the polls, no doubt in part due to the economic crisis. But the first debate looms and there I don't see how Obama can win this. We're going to get Saddleback again. Obama will mutter as he gets lost in his train of thought, trying to be nuanced but coming off milquetoast. McCain will be decisive, strong, and engaging. The ivory tower crowd will gush that Obama won, and McCain will surge in the polls. That's when the democrats go into panic mode.
I thought McCain was supposed to start surging in the polls right after he dominated the first debate.
Also, democrats are currently in panic mode.
We now have two days of McCain's post-debate surge under our belts.
Day Four of the McCain Surge
Even the Battleground poll has given up the ghost.:bloodbath:

 
Obama now up in Virginia. (Likely voter polls)

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread RCP Average 09/17 - 09/28 -- 48.0 46.6 Obama +1.4 FOX News/Rasmussen 09/28 - 09/28 500 LV 50 47 Obama +3 NBC/Mason-Dixon 09/17 - 09/22 625 LV 44 47 McCain +3 ABC News/Wash Post 09/18 - 09/21 698 LV 49 46 Obama +3 SurveyUSA 09/19 - 09/21 716 LV 51 45 Obama +6 InAdv/PollPosition 09/17 - 09/17 502 LV 46 48 McCain +2
Didnt BGP, i mean KAA, say all the likely voter polls were going to show Obama was in real real trouble? :goodposting:
Bear in mind, all these polls slant Dem by at least 10 points. So what they're telling us is that instead of a massive historically unprecedented crushing defeat at the hands of McCain, Obama is merely going to be routed soundly.
Still early my friends. Lets try not to get too cocky. We just need to keep the momentum going. I hope opinions like this are in the minority.
Holy ####ing ####.
[shakestheclown]"When they turn off that camera they're gonna go off and they're gonna #### that little dog..."

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Obama now up in Virginia. (Likely voter polls)

Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread RCP Average 09/17 - 09/28 -- 48.0 46.6 Obama +1.4 FOX News/Rasmussen 09/28 - 09/28 500 LV 50 47 Obama +3 NBC/Mason-Dixon 09/17 - 09/22 625 LV 44 47 McCain +3 ABC News/Wash Post 09/18 - 09/21 698 LV 49 46 Obama +3 SurveyUSA 09/19 - 09/21 716 LV 51 45 Obama +6 InAdv/PollPosition 09/17 - 09/17 502 LV 46 48 McCain +2
Didnt BGP, i mean KAA, say all the likely voter polls were going to show Obama was in real real trouble? :lmao:
Bear in mind, all these polls slant Dem by at least 10 points. So what they're telling us is that instead of a massive historically unprecedented crushing defeat at the hands of McCain, Obama is merely going to be routed soundly.
Still early my friends. Lets try not to get too cocky. We just need to keep the momentum going. I hope opinions like this are in the minority.
Holy ####ing ####.
And people are complaining that the Obama campaign is trying to get the homeless vote. :lmao:
 
And people are complaining that the Obama campaign is trying to get the homeless vote. :rolleyes:
NPR interviewed a homeless guy this morning who registered and voeted early. It went something like "That was easier than I thought it would be. It was good because I'm transient so I might be gone tomorrow but my vote still counts."NPR: "Who did you vote for?"Homeless guy: "Palin! I think she understands things better than the other guys who've been around." :bye:
 
And people are complaining that the Obama campaign is trying to get the homeless vote. :goodposting:
NPR interviewed a homeless guy this morning who registered and voeted early. It went something like "That was easier than I thought it would be. It was good because I'm transient so I might be gone tomorrow but my vote still counts."NPR: "Who did you vote for?"Homeless guy: "Palin! I think she understands things better than the other guys who've been around." :lmao:
Crap!
 
And people are complaining that the Obama campaign is trying to get the homeless vote. :goodposting:
NPR interviewed a homeless guy this morning who registered and voeted early. It went something like "That was easier than I thought it would be. It was good because I'm transient so I might be gone tomorrow but my vote still counts."NPR: "Who did you vote for?"Homeless guy: "Palin! I think she understands things better than the other guys who've been around." :bye:
Crap!
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
Saw Bill Clinton on MSNBC speaking in Fla today. Guy absolutely knocked it out of the park for Barack. I was expecting his usual half-hearted support and was going to switch to something else, but I kept watching because there was a superhottie standing right behind him. To my surprise (and thanks to the superhottie for keeping me tuned in) he was forceful, eloquent, and convincing in his support.

Good job, Bill. :hophead:

 
Saw Bill Clinton on MSNBC speaking in Fla today. Guy absolutely knocked it out of the park for Barack. I was expecting his usual half-hearted support and was going to switch to something else, but I kept watching because there was a superhottie standing right behind him. To my surprise (and thanks to the superhottie for keeping me tuned in) he was forceful, eloquent, and convincing in his support.

Good job, Bill. :confused:
I've rarely seen Bill completely flummoxed by a question, but Greta really stumped him
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More RCP battleground state polls:

Battleground States Obama McCain Spread Colorado 50.0 45.0 Obama +5.0 Ohio 48.0 46.0 Obama +2.0 Florida 47.8 46.4 Obama +1.4 Pennsylvania 49.7 42.0 Obama +7.7 Missouri 45.8 49.0 McCain +3.2 Virginia 48.5 46.5 Obama +2.0 All Battleground States | Senate Polls | Latest Polls
I know they're just teasing me now, but please hold up. Please.I also think this is as high as Obama is going to get until late-breakers are counted right before the election. I think Palin will do fine tonight and help McCain recover.
 
More RCP battleground state polls:

Battleground States Obama McCain Spread Colorado 50.0 45.0 Obama +5.0 Ohio 48.0 46.0 Obama +2.0 Florida 47.8 46.4 Obama +1.4 Pennsylvania 49.7 42.0 Obama +7.7 Missouri 45.8 49.0 McCain +3.2 Virginia 48.5 46.5 Obama +2.0 All Battleground States | Senate Polls | Latest Polls
I know they're just teasing me now, but please hold up. Please.I also think this is as high as Obama is going to get until late-breakers are counted right before the election. I think Palin will do fine tonight and help McCain recover.
True, but it's how she does tomorrow night that has the McCain camp's sphincters tightened up.
 
I also think this is as high as Obama is going to get until late-breakers are counted right before the election. I think Palin will do fine tonight and help McCain recover.
Maybe, but the whole economy/relief bill thing still has to play out and will probably have a bigger impact on perception of McCain at this point.You better believe McCain is hoping more than anything else the relief plan gets passed tomorrow ahead of the debate so that 1) it's a distraction 2)Palin can immediately start making claims that McCain's great leadership help saved the country from financial disaster.Problem is the house Dems can delay the vote till whenever they feel like it. Best strategy for the Dems would be to feign indecision on passing the plan until Friday, have Obama show up and then have the house pass the plan with every Dem saying something like "well we were debating this one back and forth, but after speaking with Senator Obama he's convinced us that passing this plan, while not perfect, is the best thing for everyone from wall street to main street and will protect the jobs and financial security of every American."Obama claims victory, McCain is left with nothing. Even if Palin does well at the debate it's rendered meaningless. Checkmate.
 
Anyone think that the public will get tired of hearing about the economy between now and election day? Information overload, ready to hear about more positive things, leaving an empty space where news that is bad for Obama might slip in?

 
Anyone think that the public will get tired of hearing about the economy between now and election day? Information overload, ready to hear about more positive things, leaving an empty space where news that is bad for Obama might slip in?
When the relief plan is passed things will settle down a bit. Inertia favors Obama at this point given the direction of the polls. McCain will need another big shocker to get things going in his direction again. Maybe they have something saved for a rainy day. I figure if there was such a thing we'd have had it by now either in this campaign or the Democratic nominee campaign. I think just about all the cards are in play here.The remaining great unknown (and it's actually HUGE) is how big a factor racism will be come election day (and if the McCain campaign will try and indirectly emphasize it).
 
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Saw Bill Clinton on MSNBC speaking in Fla today. Guy absolutely knocked it out of the park for Barack. I was expecting his usual half-hearted support and was going to switch to something else, but I kept watching because there was a superhottie standing right behind him. To my surprise (and thanks to the superhottie for keeping me tuned in) he was forceful, eloquent, and convincing in his support.Good job, Bill. :confused:
Bill's certainly lost a lot of esteem in the gunz household. I used to really like the guy despite his indescretions. But his blatant refusal to let go of his ego for the betterment of the party and the country the past few months has been very disappointing.Hopefully this is a step in the right direction.
 
Saw Bill Clinton on MSNBC speaking in Fla today. Guy absolutely knocked it out of the park for Barack. I was expecting his usual half-hearted support and was going to switch to something else, but I kept watching because there was a superhottie standing right behind him. To my surprise (and thanks to the superhottie for keeping me tuned in) he was forceful, eloquent, and convincing in his support.Good job, Bill. :excited:
Bill's certainly lost a lot of esteem in the gunz household. I used to really like the guy despite his indescretions. But his blatant refusal to let go of his ego for the betterment of the party and the country the past few months has been very disappointing.Hopefully this is a step in the right direction.
He was unequivocal in his support for Obama in his appearance on the Daily Show last week. Pretty good segment with him there even if it was short.
 
Anyone think that the public will get tired of hearing about the economy between now and election day? Information overload, ready to hear about more positive things, leaving an empty space where news that is bad for Obama might slip in?
It's the economy, stupid
 
Polls show Obama gains in swing states

By Paul Steinhauser

CNN Deputy Political Editor

ST. LOUIS, Missouri (CNN) -- Polls in five crucial battleground states in the race for the White House released Wednesday suggest that Sen. Barack Obama is making some major gains.

The CNN/Time Magazine/Opinion Research Corp. polls of likely voters in Florida, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada and Virginia suggest a shift toward the Democratic presidential nominee.

In Florida, the state that decided the 2000 presidential election, 51 percent of likely voters say Obama, D-Illinois, is their choice for president, with 47 percent backing Republican presidential nominee John McCain.

The last CNN poll taken in Florida two weeks ago showed the race for the state's 27 electoral votes tied at 48 percent apiece among registered voters.

A new CNN poll of polls in Florida, also out Wednesday, has Obama leading McCain by 5 points. The CNN poll of polls is an average of the new CNN poll and other new state polls.

"The campaign season is like the hurricane season," said Bill Schneider, CNN's senior political analyst. "Florida lies directly in its path. Hurricane Obama hit Florida, and Hurricane McCain. Tropical Storms Biden and Palin made landfall in the Sunshine State. The impact? Over the last two weeks, Barack Obama has been gaining support in Florida."
 
Fennis said:
adonis said:
Anyone think that the public will get tired of hearing about the economy between now and election day? Information overload, ready to hear about more positive things, leaving an empty space where news that is bad for Obama might slip in?
It's the economy, stupid
I'm not sure people get bored about money.
 
Posted this in the McCain campaign thread, but I bet you guys will like it better over here. It's an article from this month's rolling stone and viciously goes after McCain.

"Ouch"

 
Posted this in the McCain campaign thread, but I bet you guys will like it better over here. It's an article from this month's rolling stone and viciously goes after McCain.

"Ouch"
This needs more attention. I've been talking about some of this stuff for a while, I'm glad it'll be out there for a wider audience now - McCain is a real dirt bag, and always has been.
 

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