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timschochet said:
Whoever this guy Link Poster is, apparently he just wants to fill any Obama/McCain thread with the most slanted anti-Obama stuff, all of which is from Right Wing extremists like Michelle Malkin. I don't know what purpose this serves, but it's awfully irritating. Not a single post so far has anything credible or even worth discussing. Why does he bother?
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Someone using an alias to get a rise. He's just not very good at it. He'll tire or be outed.
 
timschochet said:
Pooch said:
timschochet said:
I have come to grips with the fact that Barack Obama will be our next president. He is a decent man and I wish him well.

But it's time for Obama supporters and the man himself to come to grips with this fact, as well. You all need to realize right now that it is unrealistic to expect the the things that he has been promising throughout his campaign, and it will be bad for our country if he goes forward with them. Barack Obama needs to be the President of all of us, and not just progressives, and that means his #1 priority HAS TO BE cutting, not increasing expenditures. Ironically, in order to succeed, Obama needs to become the sort of President that McCain has vaguely promised to be: the reformer, who changes our system. To do this, he's going to have to take on entrenched members of both parties. The cuts will have to be significant in all areas, and a lot of Americans are going to be unhappy. Obama will not be popular. I'm afraid some of his earliest supporters are going to feel betrayed. But he's got to show courage, which I think he has. If he can succeed, he will become one of our greatest leaders. I'm rooting for him, but I wouldn't want to be him.
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I think you'll be pleasantly surprised to discover he's more pragmatic than people think. He'll raise taxes on the upper echelons like he's promised and cut taxes for middle class but I expect to see some cuts made in spending when necessary. I'd like to see some deep corporate welfare cuts. Even though he's stated he wants to see the military strengthened I would be surprised if he didn't find some projects to cut there as well. The military budget is immense. Some foreign aid cuts may be looked at as well.
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I don't believe raising taxes on the upper echelons will bring in the revenue he expects. In fact, and I write this as a fiscal conservative, I believe it will slow the economy even further and bring in less revenue. Yes there will be corporate welfare cuts, but if the result is more major corporations going under we've got a problem. And as far as the miltary and foreign aid are concerned, don't forget there are a lot of companies (and people) who depend on a living from these things.

There are no cuts that are possible without hurting a whole lot of people. There is no new spending that we can afford. We are in big trouble.
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Generalize much? No offense, but you appear to be quite an alarmist. Chill out. It'll be okay. And if it isn't okay, it's still not the end of the world. Keep in mind we're ridding ourselves of what will probably go down as the most incompetent, corrupt administration in U.S. history. Personally, I'm cheered by this news.

 
Pooch said:
timschochet said:
Pooch said:
timschochet said:
I have come to grips with the fact that Barack Obama will be our next president. He is a decent man and I wish him well.

But it's time for Obama supporters and the man himself to come to grips with this fact, as well. You all need to realize right now that it is unrealistic to expect the the things that he has been promising throughout his campaign, and it will be bad for our country if he goes forward with them. Barack Obama needs to be the President of all of us, and not just progressives, and that means his #1 priority HAS TO BE cutting, not increasing expenditures. Ironically, in order to succeed, Obama needs to become the sort of President that McCain has vaguely promised to be: the reformer, who changes our system. To do this, he's going to have to take on entrenched members of both parties. The cuts will have to be significant in all areas, and a lot of Americans are going to be unhappy. Obama will not be popular. I'm afraid some of his earliest supporters are going to feel betrayed. But he's got to show courage, which I think he has. If he can succeed, he will become one of our greatest leaders. I'm rooting for him, but I wouldn't want to be him.
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I think you'll be pleasantly surprised to discover he's more pragmatic than people think. He'll raise taxes on the upper echelons like he's promised and cut taxes for middle class but I expect to see some cuts made in spending when necessary. I'd like to see some deep corporate welfare cuts. Even though he's stated he wants to see the military strengthened I would be surprised if he didn't find some projects to cut there as well. The military budget is immense. Some foreign aid cuts may be looked at as well.
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I don't believe raising taxes on the upper echelons will bring in the revenue he expects. In fact, and I write this as a fiscal conservative, I believe it will slow the economy even further and bring in less revenue. Yes there will be corporate welfare cuts, but if the result is more major corporations going under we've got a problem. And as far as the miltary and foreign aid are concerned, don't forget there are a lot of companies (and people) who depend on a living from these things.

There are no cuts that are possible without hurting a whole lot of people. There is no new spending that we can afford. We are in big trouble.
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Generalize much? No offense, but you appear to be quite an alarmist. Chill out. It'll be okay. And if it isn't okay, it's still not the end of the world. Keep in mind we're ridding ourselves of what will probably go down as the most incompetent, corrupt administration in U.S. history. Personally, I'm cheered by this news.
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Actually I am an optimist. And I agree with you about the Bush Administration. So we'll see. As I said, I hope for the best.
 
timschochet said:
I have come to grips with the fact that Barack Obama will be our next president. He is a decent man and I wish him well.But it's time for Obama supporters and the man himself to come to grips with this fact, as well. You all need to realize right now that it is unrealistic to expect the the things that he has been promising throughout his campaign, and it will be bad for our country if he goes forward with them. Barack Obama needs to be the President of all of us, and not just progressives, and that means his #1 priority HAS TO BE cutting, not increasing expenditures. Ironically, in order to succeed, Obama needs to become the sort of President that McCain has vaguely promised to be: the reformer, who changes our system. To do this, he's going to have to take on entrenched members of both parties. The cuts will have to be significant in all areas, and a lot of Americans are going to be unhappy. Obama will not be popular. I'm afraid some of his earliest supporters are going to feel betrayed. But he's got to show courage, which I think he has. If he can succeed, he will become one of our greatest leaders. I'm rooting for him, but I wouldn't want to be him.
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Obama has stated that he will go through the Federal budget line by line to cut programs that aren't working and redesign others to operate more efficiently. It seems he has the intellectual fortitude to actually accomplish this, and if he (and Dems in Congress) win their elections with enough of a mandate we could actually see progress quickly (first 100 days).It just seems like the country has a lot more upside with Obama in the White House, both domestically and abroad.
 
There's still a lot of negativity out there about Obama, enough so that Obama supporters should be nervous. Honestly it seems like he should be up by larger margins considering the opposition, yet he can't seem to pull away. It's still a tenuous situation.

 
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Obama says ACORN will help shape his Presidential agenda
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Just for fun I clicked on that and watched the whole thing. The title says:

OBAMA CAUGHT SAYING ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL SHAPE HIS PRESIDENTIAL AGENDA

Not even close to true.

Some guy with ties to Acorn was speaking to the Heartland Presidential Forum. Later, candidates spoke to the forum (Clinton, Edwards and Dodd also spoke).

I'd say "nice try" but it really wasn't.

 
Six Reasons to believe that Obama will govern from the Far Left

First, it’s all he really knows. Obama grew up in a left-wing household, attended elite left-wing dominated universities, and spent the remainder of his formative years as a community organizer alongside the likes of Wright and Ayers.

Second, it’s how he votes. In 2007, according to the National Journal, Obama’s voting record was the most liberal of any senator.

Third, it’s what he falls back on. Obama is scripted to be “post-partisan.” But when off-script he’s liable to blurt out that those who resist the leftist agenda bitterly “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to those who aren’t like them.” And when his wife said that, as an adult, she has never been proud of America, Obama defended her statement as applied to American politics. This is “### #### America” lite.

Fourth, it’s what his base wants. There really isn’t much distance between Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers and the “General Betray-Us” crowd.

Fifth, it’s what he can pretend the times demand. When economic hardship causes people lose their faith in free markets, all kinds of radical mischief becomes possible.

Sixth, with the Democrats almost certain to have substantial majorities in both houses of Congress, who would constrain a President Obama?
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'Link said:
Six Reasons to believe that Obama will govern from the Far Left

First, it’s all he really knows. Obama grew up in a left-wing household, attended elite left-wing dominated universities, and spent the remainder of his formative years as a community organizer alongside the likes of Wright and Ayers.

Second, it’s how he votes. In 2007, according to the National Journal, Obama’s voting record was the most liberal of any senator.

Third, it’s what he falls back on. Obama is scripted to be “post-partisan.” But when off-script he’s liable to blurt out that those who resist the leftist agenda bitterly “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to those who aren’t like them.” And when his wife said that, as an adult, she has never been proud of America, Obama defended her statement as applied to American politics. This is “### #### America” lite.

Fourth, it’s what his base wants. There really isn’t much distance between Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers and the “General Betray-Us” crowd.

Fifth, it’s what he can pretend the times demand. When economic hardship causes people lose their faith in free markets, all kinds of radical mischief becomes possible.

Sixth, with the Democrats almost certain to have substantial majorities in both houses of Congress, who would constrain a President Obama?
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Finally, some good links! Thanks Stat :shrug:
 
'Link said:
Obama supporters hurl Molotov cocktails at McCain yard sign
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In Sign of the Times, Global Village Gathers to Watch a Sign

Preston Fosback and his mother, Kristine, were shocked when their Obama sign was stolen one night in April from the front yard of their Portland, Ore., home.

When they put up another one nine days ago, that, too, was swiped within hours. Undeterred, they made their own sign and put it up the next day.

But this time, 16-year-old Preston had a plan: He set up a video camera inside the house and trained it on the sign from behind a window. He figured he would catch the thief on film, should he return. He hooked up the camera to a Web site that provides live streaming. He wrote a few words on the site explaining its purpose.

And then, the handmade sign with red, uneven letters went global.

A few people started watching the video, which shows the sign next to another sign endorsing a local candidate, beside a flowerbed. The only reliable action consists of the occasional car passing in the background.

Still, by that first evening, more than 100 people were watching. The next day, when Preston checked the site during lunch at school, more than 450 were there, not only from around the U.S. but as far away as Australia, Sri Lanka and Japan.

"We had no intention of making this so public," says Preston, who goes by "signkid" on the online chat that runs next to the video. "It just kind of took over by itself."

Dozens of viewers now take shifts, based on their time zones, so as not to leave the sign unwatched at any time. Viewers in Europe take over for those turning in on the West Coast, who are in turn relieved by a dedicated crew of Australians. It's attracted more than 40,000 viewers and ranks among the top 10 most-watched videos on Ustream.tv, the Web site that hosts the video, among videos of the two presidential candidates and comedian Dane Cook.

"It's not that boring really," says Elena Johansson, a 26-year-old law student in Turku, Finland. "There are squirrels moving around."

Ms. Johansson admits to staying up until 4 a.m. one night, participating in the around-the-clock vigil. She's drawn to the sense of purpose, as well as the community developing in the online chat, which focuses primarily on the U.S. presidential race, the participants' personal lives and, of course, the sign.

Given that little happens on screen, mundane occurrences can generate fevered excitement.

When a car passes, someone often types, "CAR!" Each night when Preston turns on the two lamps aimed at the sign, held on the roof by pillow cases filled with dirt, viewers type, "LIGHTS!" A few nights ago, Ms. Fosback, a public-school teacher, provided some entertainment by feeding pizza to their golden retriever, Mandy, in front of the camera.

The community -- which now calls itself CHAOS, or Citizens Hanging Around the Obama Sign -- has become protective not only of the sign but of the Fosbacks.

When Preston joined the online chat during a school day, several asked why he wasn't in school. He explained he was in computer class. Some have offered to start a college fund for him. Others, now aware of his mother's teaching schedule, have suggested Preston not respond to any strangers on the site until his mother gets home.

At first, the Fosbacks were cautious about telling anyone about the video, keeping their identity anonymous. Ms. Fosback, who goes by "teachkids" on the forum, disclosed their secret to a neighbor, so she could keep an eye on things when the Fosbacks are out. Preston recently began telling a few friends at school.

One of them, named Ben, called Preston one night and asked him to prove it was really him behind the video. Preston then wrote, "Hi Ben," on a piece of paper and walked in front of the camera with it, prompting a chorus of questions on the site asking who Ben was.

When Preston informed them that his friend was a McCain supporter, a wave of derision followed until Preston warned viewers he would ban anyone from the site who wrote anything negative about Ben. Some then started writing, "I love Ben," or "Ben is my best friend."

"That's when I realized how influential I was in this chat," says Preston.

Lorraine Armstrong, a 40-year-old human-resources manager for a construction company in Orlando, Fla., says she's had the video on her computer screen, both at home and work, since she discovered it a week ago. She has a clock on her computer set to the time in Portland.

Campaign signs in the Orlando area for both candidates have been vandalized, she says, keeping her from displaying any of her own. While she sees the video as mostly humorous, she says it involves more serious matters, too, such as freedom of speech.

"There's a sense of being able to help someone do this," says Ms. Armstrong. She adds she's helped name things in the video. Some rocks near the signs, for example, are now called "Ba-rocks."

For a while, things stayed quiet around the sign. Then, at 11:13 Portland time Tuesday night, something actually happened.

Through the darkness, viewers could see two teenage girls emerge and move toward a small gnome Preston had set up by the sign. Earlier in the day, some viewers had asked Preston to put something outside to provide some variety. He and his mother came up with the gnome, left in their garage from a ceramics class.

The "chat people," as Preston calls them, loved it, naming the gnome "O'Merkley," a mixture of Obama and the name of the local candidate, Jeff Merkley, whose name is on the other sign in the yard.

The two girls approached the signs. One of them grabbed O'Merkley, the ceramic gnome, and stuffed him in a garbage bag, breaking the brittle figure in the process. They then ran off. The online forum, meanwhile, had gone berserk, with comments ranging from "PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" to "Stop stop stop" to "Call 911."

But since no one knew the identity of the Fosbacks, who were sleeping at the time, or had their phone number, the viewers couldn't alert them. "It was a helpless feeling," says Candice Smith, a 44-year-old in San Francisco who sells antiquarian books on the Internet and has been monitoring the video.

The next morning, after finding the destroyed gnome by the sign, Ms. Fosback dressed in black and pretended to weep in front of the camera. That night, the forum stopped chatting for a moment of silence in the gnome's honor. One viewer made a T-shirt with the inscription, O'Merkley: Rest in Peace.

"The Internet," says Preston, "has a way of taking simple things and making them extraordinary."
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NCCommish said:
'Link said:
Obama supporters hurl Molotov cocktails at McCain yard sign
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In Sign of the Times, Global Village Gathers to Watch a Sign

Preston Fosback and his mother, Kristine, were shocked when their Obama sign was stolen one night in April from the front yard of their Portland, Ore., home.

When they put up another one nine days ago, that, too, was swiped within hours. Undeterred, they made their own sign and put it up the next day.

But this time, 16-year-old Preston had a plan: He set up a video camera inside the house and trained it on the sign from behind a window. He figured he would catch the thief on film, should he return. He hooked up the camera to a Web site that provides live streaming. He wrote a few words on the site explaining its purpose.

And then, the handmade sign with red, uneven letters went global.

A few people started watching the video, which shows the sign next to another sign endorsing a local candidate, beside a flowerbed. The only reliable action consists of the occasional car passing in the background.

Still, by that first evening, more than 100 people were watching. The next day, when Preston checked the site during lunch at school, more than 450 were there, not only from around the U.S. but as far away as Australia, Sri Lanka and Japan.

"We had no intention of making this so public," says Preston, who goes by "signkid" on the online chat that runs next to the video. "It just kind of took over by itself."

Dozens of viewers now take shifts, based on their time zones, so as not to leave the sign unwatched at any time. Viewers in Europe take over for those turning in on the West Coast, who are in turn relieved by a dedicated crew of Australians. It's attracted more than 40,000 viewers and ranks among the top 10 most-watched videos on Ustream.tv, the Web site that hosts the video, among videos of the two presidential candidates and comedian Dane Cook.

"It's not that boring really," says Elena Johansson, a 26-year-old law student in Turku, Finland. "There are squirrels moving around."

Ms. Johansson admits to staying up until 4 a.m. one night, participating in the around-the-clock vigil. She's drawn to the sense of purpose, as well as the community developing in the online chat, which focuses primarily on the U.S. presidential race, the participants' personal lives and, of course, the sign.

Given that little happens on screen, mundane occurrences can generate fevered excitement.

When a car passes, someone often types, "CAR!" Each night when Preston turns on the two lamps aimed at the sign, held on the roof by pillow cases filled with dirt, viewers type, "LIGHTS!" A few nights ago, Ms. Fosback, a public-school teacher, provided some entertainment by feeding pizza to their golden retriever, Mandy, in front of the camera.

The community -- which now calls itself CHAOS, or Citizens Hanging Around the Obama Sign -- has become protective not only of the sign but of the Fosbacks.

When Preston joined the online chat during a school day, several asked why he wasn't in school. He explained he was in computer class. Some have offered to start a college fund for him. Others, now aware of his mother's teaching schedule, have suggested Preston not respond to any strangers on the site until his mother gets home.

At first, the Fosbacks were cautious about telling anyone about the video, keeping their identity anonymous. Ms. Fosback, who goes by "teachkids" on the forum, disclosed their secret to a neighbor, so she could keep an eye on things when the Fosbacks are out. Preston recently began telling a few friends at school.

One of them, named Ben, called Preston one night and asked him to prove it was really him behind the video. Preston then wrote, "Hi Ben," on a piece of paper and walked in front of the camera with it, prompting a chorus of questions on the site asking who Ben was.

When Preston informed them that his friend was a McCain supporter, a wave of derision followed until Preston warned viewers he would ban anyone from the site who wrote anything negative about Ben. Some then started writing, "I love Ben," or "Ben is my best friend."

"That's when I realized how influential I was in this chat," says Preston.

Lorraine Armstrong, a 40-year-old human-resources manager for a construction company in Orlando, Fla., says she's had the video on her computer screen, both at home and work, since she discovered it a week ago. She has a clock on her computer set to the time in Portland.

Campaign signs in the Orlando area for both candidates have been vandalized, she says, keeping her from displaying any of her own. While she sees the video as mostly humorous, she says it involves more serious matters, too, such as freedom of speech.

"There's a sense of being able to help someone do this," says Ms. Armstrong. She adds she's helped name things in the video. Some rocks near the signs, for example, are now called "Ba-rocks."

For a while, things stayed quiet around the sign. Then, at 11:13 Portland time Tuesday night, something actually happened.

Through the darkness, viewers could see two teenage girls emerge and move toward a small gnome Preston had set up by the sign. Earlier in the day, some viewers had asked Preston to put something outside to provide some variety. He and his mother came up with the gnome, left in their garage from a ceramics class.

The "chat people," as Preston calls them, loved it, naming the gnome "O'Merkley," a mixture of Obama and the name of the local candidate, Jeff Merkley, whose name is on the other sign in the yard.

The two girls approached the signs. One of them grabbed O'Merkley, the ceramic gnome, and stuffed him in a garbage bag, breaking the brittle figure in the process. They then ran off. The online forum, meanwhile, had gone berserk, with comments ranging from "PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" to "Stop stop stop" to "Call 911."

But since no one knew the identity of the Fosbacks, who were sleeping at the time, or had their phone number, the viewers couldn't alert them. "It was a helpless feeling," says Candice Smith, a 44-year-old in San Francisco who sells antiquarian books on the Internet and has been monitoring the video.

The next morning, after finding the destroyed gnome by the sign, Ms. Fosback dressed in black and pretended to weep in front of the camera. That night, the forum stopped chatting for a moment of silence in the gnome's honor. One viewer made a T-shirt with the inscription, O'Merkley: Rest in Peace.

"The Internet," says Preston, "has a way of taking simple things and making them extraordinary."
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NCC, are you suggesting that a couple of kids putting an "N" in front of Obama ("nobabma") is the same as a molotov cocktail?...btw, this is my LEAST favorite liberal retort. "It's ok that we did it, because they did it too".

 
Statorama said:
NCC, are you suggesting that a couple of kids putting an "N" in front of Obama ("nobabma") is the same as a molotov cocktail?...btw, this is my LEAST favorite liberal retort. "It's ok that we did it, because they did it too".
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Actually I never said it's ok for anyone to do it. I hope the two idiots that tried to burn down the McCain sign get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. My point was that it is happening all over and to signs for both candidates. I used this because it was a fun little story. BTW my least favorite conservative talking point is the "poor us we are victims of the mean ol liberals we never do anything. Oh and if any of our followers do something it's because they are random loons. If it happens to us it is part of a vast liberal attack."
 
Pretty lame to vandalize a sign. It basically tells the world, "a moron doesn't like this candidate so you shouldn't either."

 
NCCommish said:
BTW my least favorite conservative talking point is the "poor us we are victims of the mean ol liberals we never do anything. Oh and if any of our followers do something it's because they are random loons. If it happens to us it is part of a vast liberal attack."
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Really? That's my favorite.
 
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
BTW my least favorite conservative talking point is the "poor us we are victims of the mean ol liberals we never do anything. Oh and if any of our followers do something it's because they are random loons. If it happens to us it is part of a vast liberal attack."
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Really? That's my favorite.
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My favorite is "George Bush isn't really a Republican we just elected him twice to lead our party"
 
NCCommish said:
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
BTW my least favorite conservative talking point is the "poor us we are victims of the mean ol liberals we never do anything. Oh and if any of our followers do something it's because they are random loons. If it happens to us it is part of a vast liberal attack."
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Really? That's my favorite.
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My favorite is "George Bush isn't really a Republican we just elected him twice to lead our party"
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He has been a savage disappointment on almost every level.
 
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
BTW my least favorite conservative talking point is the "poor us we are victims of the mean ol liberals we never do anything. Oh and if any of our followers do something it's because they are random loons. If it happens to us it is part of a vast liberal attack."
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Really? That's my favorite.
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My favorite is "George Bush isn't really a Republican we just elected him twice to lead our party"
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He has been a savage disappointment on almost every level.
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To be fair when he was first elected even I thought he wouldn't be this bad. I mean I figured we'd get some relatively experienced folks in there with him. Some advice fron Dad to get him on the right path and at worst he would pursue some conservative agenda points that wouldn't fly anyway. Boy did he surprise me.
 
NCCommish said:
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
BTW my least favorite conservative talking point is the "poor us we are victims of the mean ol liberals we never do anything. Oh and if any of our followers do something it's because they are random loons. If it happens to us it is part of a vast liberal attack."
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Really? That's my favorite.
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My favorite is "George Bush isn't really a Republican we just elected him twice to lead our party"
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He has been a savage disappointment on almost every level.
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To be fair when he was first elected even I thought he wouldn't be this bad. I mean I figured we'd get some relatively experienced folks in there with him. Some advice fron Dad to get him on the right path and at worst he would pursue some conservative agenda points that wouldn't fly anyway. Boy did he surprise me.
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Same here. I eagerly voted for W the first time. I held my nose the second time. I stopped even trying to defend him some time ago.
 
Autumn Wind said:
NCCommish said:
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
BTW my least favorite conservative talking point is the "poor us we are victims of the mean ol liberals we never do anything. Oh and if any of our followers do something it's because they are random loons. If it happens to us it is part of a vast liberal attack."
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Really? That's my favorite.
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My favorite is "George Bush isn't really a Republican we just elected him twice to lead our party"
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He has been a savage disappointment on almost every level.
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To be fair when he was first elected even I thought he wouldn't be this bad. I mean I figured we'd get some relatively experienced folks in there with him. Some advice fron Dad to get him on the right path and at worst he would pursue some conservative agenda points that wouldn't fly anyway. Boy did he surprise me.
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Same here. I eagerly voted for W the first time. I held my nose the second time. I stopped even trying to defend him some time ago.
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Well I voted Gore but I kind of figured his loss wouldn't be that big a deal. Yeah that was a miscalculation to say the least. And then W forced me to vote Kerry. I'll never forgive him for that.
 
NCCommish said:
Autumn Wind said:
NCCommish said:
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
BTW my least favorite conservative talking point is the "poor us we are victims of the mean ol liberals we never do anything. Oh and if any of our followers do something it's because they are random loons. If it happens to us it is part of a vast liberal attack."
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Really? That's my favorite.
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My favorite is "George Bush isn't really a Republican we just elected him twice to lead our party"
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He has been a savage disappointment on almost every level.
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To be fair when he was first elected even I thought he wouldn't be this bad. I mean I figured we'd get some relatively experienced folks in there with him. Some advice fron Dad to get him on the right path and at worst he would pursue some conservative agenda points that wouldn't fly anyway. Boy did he surprise me.
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Same here. I eagerly voted for W the first time. I held my nose the second time. I stopped even trying to defend him some time ago.
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Well I voted Gore but I kind of figured his loss wouldn't be that big a deal. Yeah that was a miscalculation to say the least. And then W forced me to vote Kerry. I'll never forgive him for that.
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He's the reason I was one of 397,265 people to vote for Michael Badnarik in 2004. GWB is also the reason I was able to be open minded enough to vote for Obama in 2008. I thank Bush for both of those votes. For the first two times in 6 presidential elections I was happy to cast my presidential ballots.
 
NCCommish said:
Autumn Wind said:
NCCommish said:
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
Statorama said:
NCCommish said:
BTW my least favorite conservative talking point is the "poor us we are victims of the mean ol liberals we never do anything. Oh and if any of our followers do something it's because they are random loons. If it happens to us it is part of a vast liberal attack."
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Really? That's my favorite.
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My favorite is "George Bush isn't really a Republican we just elected him twice to lead our party"
Click to expand...
He has been a savage disappointment on almost every level.
Click to expand...
To be fair when he was first elected even I thought he wouldn't be this bad. I mean I figured we'd get some relatively experienced folks in there with him. Some advice fron Dad to get him on the right path and at worst he would pursue some conservative agenda points that wouldn't fly anyway. Boy did he surprise me.
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Same here. I eagerly voted for W the first time. I held my nose the second time. I stopped even trying to defend him some time ago.
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Well I voted Gore but I kind of figured his loss wouldn't be that big a deal. Yeah that was a miscalculation to say the least. And then W forced me to vote Kerry.
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Ditto.
 
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NCCommish said:
'Link said:
Obama supporters hurl Molotov cocktails at McCain yard sign
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In Sign of the Times, Global Village Gathers to Watch a Sign
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I don't know if anyone else read this whole thing, but it's absolutely bleepin' hilarious.O'Merkley :bag:
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"It's not that boring really," says Elena Johansson, a 26-year-old law student in Turku, Finland. "There are squirrels moving around."
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Obama at 313 on the RCP electoral map.

10/14 Wisconsin Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama Obama 313 - McCain 158 Obama +7.4

10/14 Michigan Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama Obama 313 - McCain 158 Obama +7.4

10/14 Colorado Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama Obama 313 - McCain 158 Obama +7.4

10/13 Florida Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama Obama 304 - McCain 158 Obama +7.2

10/13 North Dakota Solid McCain »»» Leaning McCain Obama 304 - McCain 158 Obama +7.2
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Never count your chickens, but I LOVE to watch the polls continue to trend this way. :excited:
 
dancingbones said:
Obama at 313 on the RCP electoral map.

10/14 Wisconsin Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama Obama 313 - McCain 158 Obama +7.4

10/14 Michigan Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama Obama 313 - McCain 158 Obama +7.4

10/14 Colorado Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama Obama 313 - McCain 158 Obama +7.4

10/13 Florida Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama Obama 304 - McCain 158 Obama +7.2

10/13 North Dakota Solid McCain »»» Leaning McCain Obama 304 - McCain 158 Obama +7.2
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Never count your chickens, but I LOVE to watch the polls continue to trend this way. :thumbup:
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pleaseholduppleaseholduppleaseholdupThough I don't believe either Virginia or Florida are actually as Obama leading as those polls suggest. Those are going to be razor-thin races.

 
dancingbones said:
Obama at 313 on the RCP electoral map.

10/14 Wisconsin Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama Obama 313 - McCain 158 Obama +7.4

10/14 Michigan Leaning Obama »»» Solid Obama Obama 313 - McCain 158 Obama +7.4

10/14 Colorado Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama Obama 313 - McCain 158 Obama +7.4

10/13 Florida Toss Up »»» Leaning Obama Obama 304 - McCain 158 Obama +7.2

10/13 North Dakota Solid McCain »»» Leaning McCain Obama 304 - McCain 158 Obama +7.2
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Never count your chickens, but I LOVE to watch the polls continue to trend this way. :coffee:
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No need for you guys to even get out and vote, this thing is over :lmao: Stay home, play some X-Box and drink some margaritas. You'll wake up the next day to all the good news :lmao:

 
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