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fluorescent walkway said:
Polls out of Georgia, Montana and Arizona are all tightening. I wonder if McCain's decision to bet the ranch on PA and OH will mean a couple of those leak over to Obama.
I've been saying for a couple weeks now that Obama will take GA.
 
Obama's Own Words

Obama: Dividing Israel doesn't make me anti-Israel

US presidential hopeful Barrack Obama on Sunday insisted that just because he tends to side with those who advocate dividing the Land of Israel as the most viable path to peace does not mean that he is an enemy of the Jewish state.

Speaking to Jewish leaders in Cleveland, the Illinois senator complained that "there is a strain within the pro-Israel community that says unless you adopt a unwavering pro-Likud approach to Israel that you're anti-Israel."

Israel's opposition Likud Party and its supporters promote minimal or no territorial compromises in the quest for peace with an Arab world that has tried to militarily destroy the Jewish state at least three different times.

But, according to Obama, backing the Jews' biblical, historical and legal claim to all of the land in question "can't be the measure of our friendship with Israel."

Nor can supporting the view that only by defeating its Islamic foes can Israel enjoy any semblence of peace and security, continued the Democratic frontrunner.

As his popularity grows, Mr. Obama has come under scathing attack from supporters of the Jewish state for turning to advisors who have in the past expressed anti-Israel opinions.
Obama is right, IMO, to be critical of those elements within Likud who oppose giving up any settlements at all within the occupied territories. Let's get realistic:1. Israel's going to have to give up the Golan Heights to have peace with Syria.

2. Israel's going to have to give up enough of the occuppied territories to allow the Palestinians a contiguous state with access to the sea.

3. Palestinians are going to have to give up Jerusalem and the Right of Return.

If these things happen, we may finally have peace. If they don't, we will never have peace. Simple as that.
I do agree with this.Pre 67 borders

Golan Heights to Syria

Jerusalem to Israel.

One of the problems is, Israel won't budge on Pre 67 borders, imo.

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Or the Golan Heights.
Oh yes they will.
Have you ever been there?
No.
I assure you, if you ever visit the Golan Heights you will understand immediately several things all at once. Why it is so important. Why Israel took it. Why Israel will never return it.We will sooner issue commercial pilots licenses to Al Qaeda than Israel return the Golan Heights.

 
I assure you, if you ever visit the Golan Heights you will understand immediately several things all at once. Why it is so important. Why Israel took it. Why Israel will never return it.

We will sooner issue commercial pilots licenses to Al Qaeda than Israel return the Golan Heights.
What is the 'Golan Heights'? And why won't they give it up?
 
The ballot here in North Carolina is a little wonky. You can choose to vote straight party, but it won't count the presidential vote. That race has to be filled in separately. When I went to vote early, the poll workers were very good at explaining this odd ballot format, but I've seen a few stories about this instruction not being constant, especially in areas with long lines.

It would be pretty interesting if North Carolina became another Florida 2000 storyline. Watch for Dems sweeping in the Senate and Governor races, but McCain still winning the state. That would be pretty improbable.

 
fluorescent walkway said:
Polls out of Georgia, Montana and Arizona are all tightening. I wonder if McCain's decision to bet the ranch on PA and OH will mean a couple of those leak over to Obama.
I've been saying for a couple weeks now that Obama will take GA.
Add North Dakota and New Mexico to the possible damage as well. I think Obama takes Georgia and Montana. I think even if McCain could somehow get Pennsylvania, I think he will lose Colorado, Nevada and others and still lose this election.
 
From 538 - National polls tightening a bit, but a great set of state polls for Obama

The RCP national poll average is definitely tightening, down to 6.7 from 8.0 a few days ago. That's been driven by increases in McCain's numbers rather than decreases in Obama's, which have stayed above 50% for a week now.
The italics are the important thing. McCain numbers were sure to rise it was a question of whether Obamas would fall. If they did good news for McCain. If not not good news.
 
The ballot here in North Carolina is a little wonky. You can choose to vote straight party, but it won't count the presidential vote. That race has to be filled in separately. When I went to vote early, the poll workers were very good at explaining this odd ballot format, but I've seen a few stories about this instruction not being constant, especially in areas with long lines.It would be pretty interesting if North Carolina became another Florida 2000 storyline. Watch for Dems sweeping in the Senate and Governor races, but McCain still winning the state. That would be pretty improbable.
We've had a Dem governor win twice while Bush won the state.
 
I assure you, if you ever visit the Golan Heights you will understand immediately several things all at once. Why it is so important. Why Israel took it. Why Israel will never return it.

We will sooner issue commercial pilots licenses to Al Qaeda than Israel return the Golan Heights.
I already do understand everything you're saying here. Nonetheless, I think you're wrong. Israel survived for the first 19 years of it's existence without the Golan Heights. From what I've read, and in conversation with Israelis, it's not something they're eager to do, but something they could be convinced to do under the right circumstances.I will say this: if Obama tries to push Israel to give up the Golan Heights without a settlement for Palestine at the same time, without an agreement with the vast majority of the Palestinian people for peace as well as Syria and most of the Arab world, then they will never agree. And if Obama pushes this with merely the promise of a chance of peace, and attempts in this manner to sell Israel's security down the river, I will oppose him as I have never opposed any American president. But I doubt he will do this.

 
The ballot here in North Carolina is a little wonky. You can choose to vote straight party, but it won't count the presidential vote. That race has to be filled in separately. When I went to vote early, the poll workers were very good at explaining this odd ballot format, but I've seen a few stories about this instruction not being constant, especially in areas with long lines.It would be pretty interesting if North Carolina became another Florida 2000 storyline. Watch for Dems sweeping in the Senate and Governor races, but McCain still winning the state. That would be pretty improbable.
I'm from Fayetteville but I now live in Atlanta. My mom was telling me about the straight party issue. I hope this doesn't screw voters up, especially the elderly.
 
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/100...rs.html?showall

Crist extends voting hours

This is a very big deal: Florida Governor Charlie Crist, to the shock and dismay of Florida Republicans, just moved to extend early voting hours, a move likely to widen the Democrats' lead under a program on which the Obama campaign has intensely focused.

"He just blew Florida for John McCain," one plugged in Florida Republican just told me.

The Buzz reports:

At a hastily arranged news conference, Crist said the right to vote is sacred and that "many have fought and died for this right." He said he consulted a leading Democratic legislator, Rep. Dan Gelber of Miami Beach, before issuing his order, and that Gelber knew of a similar order issued by Gov. Jeb Bush in 2002 that dealt with helping voters deal with new equipment.

As to the perception that more early voting helps Democrats, Crist said: "This is not a political decision. This is a people decision."

Democrats had urged the extension, which means that votes will be cast 12 hours a day, not eight hours a day.

 
The ballot here in North Carolina is a little wonky. You can choose to vote straight party, but it won't count the presidential vote. That race has to be filled in separately. When I went to vote early, the poll workers were very good at explaining this odd ballot format, but I've seen a few stories about this instruction not being constant, especially in areas with long lines.It would be pretty interesting if North Carolina became another Florida 2000 storyline. Watch for Dems sweeping in the Senate and Governor races, but McCain still winning the state. That would be pretty improbable.
You must live in the part of the state that Bev Purdue likes to have voted for her.
 
"I don't want to sound racist, but I don't want a black man running my country."

Don't worry. That doesn't sound racist at all.

 
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This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.

Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.

 
ConstruxBoy said:
Orange Crush said:
The ballot here in North Carolina is a little wonky. You can choose to vote straight party, but it won't count the presidential vote. That race has to be filled in separately. When I went to vote early, the poll workers were very good at explaining this odd ballot format, but I've seen a few stories about this instruction not being constant, especially in areas with long lines.It would be pretty interesting if North Carolina became another Florida 2000 storyline. Watch for Dems sweeping in the Senate and Governor races, but McCain still winning the state. That would be pretty improbable.
You must live in the part of the state that Bev Purdue likes to have voted for her.
Huh?What does that sentence mean? And I thought Purdue had a slight lead in the polls (about the same as Hagan and Obama) so if there is only one part of the state that likes Purdue, then it has a majority of the people in the state.(Full disclosure: I did not vote for Purdue.)
 
This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.
You seem very intent on giving the Obama campaign strategy advice.
 
Orange Crush said:
The ballot here in North Carolina is a little wonky. You can choose to vote straight party, but it won't count the presidential vote. That race has to be filled in separately. When I went to vote early, the poll workers were very good at explaining this odd ballot format, but I've seen a few stories about this instruction not being constant, especially in areas with long lines.It would be pretty interesting if North Carolina became another Florida 2000 storyline. Watch for Dems sweeping in the Senate and Governor races, but McCain still winning the state. That would be pretty improbable.
Who are these people the authorize ballots like these? Unbelievable.
 
This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.
You seem very intent on giving the Obama campaign strategy advice.
No, I think the more accurate way to characterize me is "paranoid."You are correct. They're run an impressive campaign so far. I need to relax.It is interesting to look at just how important Virginia can be in the grand scheme of things. And also somewhat reassuring to nervous people like me, given the trends and internals in polling there.
 
This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.
You seem very intent on giving the Obama campaign strategy advice.
No, I think the more accurate way to characterize me is "paranoid."You are correct. They're run an impressive campaign so far. I need to relax.It is interesting to look at just how important Virginia can be in the grand scheme of things. And also somewhat reassuring to nervous people like me, given the trends and internals in polling there.
I'm with you on the paranoia. I don't remember ever driving myself so crazy over an election before. Things have looked good for a while, yet I find myself hitting "refresh" on fivethirtyeight about a billion times a day and soaking up every tidbit of info to get some sort of reassurance, which I won't find, that Obama will win. So I understand your fears on Virginia. Just need to get through the next six days...On another front, the boyfriend and I are canvassing in Indiana this weekend, and I'm wondering if others here have done that and what I might expect. I've never canvassed before, and I'm not really looking forward to it. I figure people in the swing states are sick of all this by now and will not necessarily love seeing another stranger knocking at their door. Any tips from someone who's done it would be appreciated.I'm also acting as a voter protection lawyer in Indiana next week. :)
 
This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.
You seem very intent on giving the Obama campaign strategy advice.
No, I think the more accurate way to characterize me is "paranoid."You are correct. They're run an impressive campaign so far. I need to relax.It is interesting to look at just how important Virginia can be in the grand scheme of things. And also somewhat reassuring to nervous people like me, given the trends and internals in polling there.
I don't think we need to worry about Virginia or any of the potential swing states getting short shrift by the Obama campaign. They're all in play and as long as he gets one or two he should win. You never know which one or two will fall victim to voting hijinks next Tuesday so they need to hedge their bets and bring in as many as they can.
 
This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.
Not quite sure what the real answer is, but the Obama campaign is nothing if not shrewd. They have their own internal polling numbers, and I'm sure they rely heavily on those to determine where to put more emphasis. I think they see that if they win Penn, they win the election. I think McCain sees that too, which is why its' been a central battleground here lately.I know it's not often smart to put trust in leaders or campaigns, but I think that they've shown themselves to be quite competent thus far, so I'm sure they have their reasons for staying focused on Penn.
 
ConstruxBoy said:
Orange Crush said:
The ballot here in North Carolina is a little wonky. You can choose to vote straight party, but it won't count the presidential vote. That race has to be filled in separately. When I went to vote early, the poll workers were very good at explaining this odd ballot format, but I've seen a few stories about this instruction not being constant, especially in areas with long lines.It would be pretty interesting if North Carolina became another Florida 2000 storyline. Watch for Dems sweeping in the Senate and Governor races, but McCain still winning the state. That would be pretty improbable.
You must live in the part of the state that Bev Purdue likes to have voted for her.
Huh?What does that sentence mean? And I thought Purdue had a slight lead in the polls (about the same as Hagan and Obama) so if there is only one part of the state that likes Purdue, then it has a majority of the people in the state.(Full disclosure: I did not vote for Purdue.)
She's had lots of anti-Charlotte talk. It's the biggest city so it should get the biggest percentage of road funds, but she has come out against that in a big way, in both speeches and ads. She fights hard for the Eastern half of the state to get more than their fair share. I'm amazed that anyone in Charlotte would vote for her, regardless of party affiliation.
 
Rush Limbaugh calling tonite's 30 minute buy on network TV by Obama a "pre-inaugural address". Obviously the play is to portray Obama as being arrogant about his chances, which has been a recurring theme. Obama was portrayed as arrogant in his europe tour and in his greek temple speech.

 
This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.

Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.
You seem very intent on giving the Obama campaign strategy advice.
No, I think the more accurate way to characterize me is "paranoid."You are correct. They're run an impressive campaign so far. I need to relax.

It is interesting to look at just how important Virginia can be in the grand scheme of things. And also somewhat reassuring to nervous people like me, given the trends and internals in polling there.
:unsure: Orange Crush and I were talking yesterday, and neither of us are planning on much sleep between now and next Wednesday. I'm taking Tuesday and Wednesday off next week because I know I'm going to be useless on those days.

 
Rush Limbaugh calling tonite's 30 minute buy on network TV by Obama a "pre-inaugural address". Obviously the play is to portray Obama as being arrogant about his chances, which has been a recurring theme. Obama was portrayed as arrogant in his europe tour and in his greek temple speech.
Every time Obama has been on national TV for an extended amount of time, his numbers have bounced. Seems like this move is fairly smart and very well timed.
 
This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.

Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.
You seem very intent on giving the Obama campaign strategy advice.
No, I think the more accurate way to characterize me is "paranoid."You are correct. They're run an impressive campaign so far. I need to relax.

It is interesting to look at just how important Virginia can be in the grand scheme of things. And also somewhat reassuring to nervous people like me, given the trends and internals in polling there.
:shrug: Orange Crush and I were talking yesterday, and neither of us are planning on much sleep between now and next Wednesday. I'm taking Tuesday and Wednesday off next week because I know I'm going to be useless on those days.
Seriously?
 
Rush Limbaugh calling tonite's 30 minute buy on network TV by Obama a "pre-inaugural address". Obviously the play is to portray Obama as being arrogant about his chances, which has been a recurring theme. Obama was portrayed as arrogant in his europe tour and in his greek temple speech.
Every time Obama has been on national TV for an extended amount of time, his numbers have bounced. Seems like this move is fairly smart and very well timed.
:goodposting: He's giving himself one more debate type national audience. It'll be interesting to see what he covers.Rush can call it whatever he wants, he's just preaching to the Republican base at this point anyway. I'd bet in his heart of hearts he's rooting for an Obama win - it's best for Rush's bottom line.
 
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This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.
You seem very intent on giving the Obama campaign strategy advice.
No, I think the more accurate way to characterize me is "paranoid."You are correct. They're run an impressive campaign so far. I need to relax.It is interesting to look at just how important Virginia can be in the grand scheme of things. And also somewhat reassuring to nervous people like me, given the trends and internals in polling there.
I'm with you on the paranoia. I don't remember ever driving myself so crazy over an election before. Things have looked good for a while, yet I find myself hitting "refresh" on fivethirtyeight about a billion times a day and soaking up every tidbit of info to get some sort of reassurance, which I won't find, that Obama will win. So I understand your fears on Virginia. Just need to get through the next six days...On another front, the boyfriend and I are canvassing in Indiana this weekend, and I'm wondering if others here have done that and what I might expect. I've never canvassed before, and I'm not really looking forward to it. I figure people in the swing states are sick of all this by now and will not necessarily love seeing another stranger knocking at their door. Any tips from someone who's done it would be appreciated.I'm also acting as a voter protection lawyer in Indiana next week. :unsure:
:thumbup: :goodposting: I'm the exact same way, i check 538 at least 10 times a day, if not more.i know, and have known for some time, that the race will tighten in the last week. Yet, i still am paranoid that something very bad is happening. i know its not, and i know the ground game will make a huge difference on election day. And of course, the paranoia is still there. Maybe its healthy for Obama supporters to feel this way.
 
This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.

Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.
You seem very intent on giving the Obama campaign strategy advice.
No, I think the more accurate way to characterize me is "paranoid."You are correct. They're run an impressive campaign so far. I need to relax.

It is interesting to look at just how important Virginia can be in the grand scheme of things. And also somewhat reassuring to nervous people like me, given the trends and internals in polling there.
:goodposting: Orange Crush and I were talking yesterday, and neither of us are planning on much sleep between now and next Wednesday. I'm taking Tuesday and Wednesday off next week because I know I'm going to be useless on those days.
Seriously?
In 2004 over 62 million people looked down at George W. Bush's name on a ballot, and said "I want 4 more years of THAT." Put me in the paranoid catagory, too. I'm not taking off work, though. I sort of wish I had.

 
OK, I was undecided until today, but I've made my decision. I'm voting Obama. And I live in the I-4 corridor of Florida too, so my one vote really MIGHT make a difference :lol:

 
This morning's realclearpolitics electoral map shows 259 "solid" Obama electoral votes. Add Virginia, which is already a pretty serious lean, and you get 272.

Why wouldn't the Obama campaign dump everything it has into Virginia? Maybe they are? I think it's pretty safe already, but I'd rather see them make 100% sure they win this thing than worry about getting 350 electoral votes or some other symbolic victory.
You seem very intent on giving the Obama campaign strategy advice.
No, I think the more accurate way to characterize me is "paranoid."You are correct. They're run an impressive campaign so far. I need to relax.

It is interesting to look at just how important Virginia can be in the grand scheme of things. And also somewhat reassuring to nervous people like me, given the trends and internals in polling there.
:lol: Orange Crush and I were talking yesterday, and neither of us are planning on much sleep between now and next Wednesday. I'm taking Tuesday and Wednesday off next week because I know I'm going to be useless on those days.
Seriously?
The sleeping part is hyperbole... the paranoia and taking off work part aren't, but in the interst of full disclosure my vacation time at work is capped anyway and I have been looking for an excuse to take a couple days off. :lol:

 
OK, I was undecided until today, but I've made my decision. I'm voting Obama. And I live in the I-4 corridor of Florida too, so my one vote really MIGHT make a difference :lol:
I'd be really interested to hear what the deciding factors were for you at this late date - care to expound?
 
http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2008/08/cha...oolsbee_20.html

Interesting interview on Obama and economics here, if you haven't seen it before.
Thanks for posting this. I'd like to watch it later if I remember. (I wish I could blackdot a single post instead of a whole thread.)
You can, sort of. Just reply to the post with a phrase so bizzare, it will only turn up once in the search function.
FUBAREDBizarre because it isn't the proper term.

 
Rush Limbaugh calling tonite's 30 minute buy on network TV by Obama a "pre-inaugural address". Obviously the play is to portray Obama as being arrogant about his chances, which has been a recurring theme. Obama was portrayed as arrogant in his europe tour and in his greek temple speech.
I think a lot of people are comparing it to the Patriots thinking they had a 19-0 season in the bag before the Super Bowl.
 
http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2008/08/cha...oolsbee_20.html

Interesting interview on Obama and economics here, if you haven't seen it before.
Thanks for posting this. I'd like to watch it later if I remember. (I wish I could blackdot a single post instead of a whole thread.)
You can, sort of. Just reply to the post with a phrase so bizzare, it will only turn up once in the search function.
Damn that is clever :thumbup:
 
Rush Limbaugh calling tonite's 30 minute buy on network TV by Obama a "pre-inaugural address". Obviously the play is to portray Obama as being arrogant about his chances, which has been a recurring theme. Obama was portrayed as arrogant in his europe tour and in his greek temple speech.
I think a lot of people are comparing it to the Patriots thinking they had a 19-0 season in the bag before the Super Bowl.
Those people are foolish, that analogy is broken. Every football game starts at 0-0, the past record is irrelevant. A more apt analogy would be Bills/Oilers in that huge comeback in the playoffs awhile back.Plus, this is a really awful thing to be talking about if you're a McCain/Palin supporter. You should be pushing with all the power of your schtick to make Obama supporters sincerely feel like they have it so far in the bag they might as well play Xbox rather than go stand in line for a few hours.
 
Rush Limbaugh calling tonite's 30 minute buy on network TV by Obama a "pre-inaugural address". Obviously the play is to portray Obama as being arrogant about his chances, which has been a recurring theme. Obama was portrayed as arrogant in his europe tour and in his greek temple speech.
I think a lot of people are comparing it to the Patriots thinking they had a 19-0 season in the bag before the Super Bowl.
Those people are foolish, that analogy is broken. Every football game starts at 0-0, the past record is irrelevant. A more apt analogy would be Bills/Oilers in that huge comeback in the playoffs awhile back.Plus, this is a really awful thing to be talking about if you're a McCain/Palin supporter. You should be pushing with all the power of your schtick to make Obama supporters sincerely feel like they have it so far in the bag they might as well play Xbox rather than go stand in line for a few hours.
I've been going back and forth. The "hey, McCain might actually win" is getting more play :kicksrock:
 
OK, I was undecided until today, but I've made my decision. I'm voting Obama. And I live in the I-4 corridor of Florida too, so my one vote really MIGHT make a difference :lmao:
I'd be really interested to hear what the deciding factors were for you at this late date - care to expound?
It wasn't an epiphany.. I'd been leaning this way for a while. I'm a staunch independent and actually prefer to vote Libertarian, but in this race, given where I live, it really seems like a wasted vote. Normally, I hate that argument, but in this case, it really sort of applies. I agree with Obama on more issues than McCain, but I was a little nervous about putting a relatively inexperienced Senator in the highest office in America as opposed to a guy who's been in politics seemingly forever, and has convinced me he has the mettle to run the country. Basically, I needed to be convinced by Obama the man, rather than just the issues. He's done that, and as such, he has my support.
 

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