If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.
If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.
Not sure where the confusion is.1. I'm not picking Zobrist over Pujols, I'm just comparing him to Delmon.If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.![]()
A 23 year old outfielder who can hit for average, steal bases, excellent bat speed, excellent throwing arm, 5 tool potential.Or a 27 year old backup middle infielder who cant hit for average, has pop.Not sure where the confusion is.1. I'm not picking Zobrist over Pujols, I'm just comparing him to Delmon.If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.![]()
2. Delmon has a whopping 10 HRs and makes T Boone Pickens proud with the wind power he generates every time he strikes out.
3. Delmon is a malcontent.
4. Having a backup middle infielder with pop is a good thing and they don't exactly grow on trees. Meanwhile, I can find an OF with 10 HRs and a .340 OBP that isn't a whiny ##### easily.
Does this help?
Your reading comprehension really sucks. I'll try one last time:I know that Delmon is talented. I also know that he is a malcontent and his HR power hasn't come around. I can find another OF that can hit for good average and OBP easily that isn't a clubhouse cancer.A 23 year old outfielder who can hit for average, steal bases, excellent bat speed, excellent throwing arm, 5 tool potential.Or a 27 year old backup middle infielder who cant hit for average, has pop.Not sure where the confusion is.1. I'm not picking Zobrist over Pujols, I'm just comparing him to Delmon.If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.![]()
2. Delmon has a whopping 10 HRs and makes T Boone Pickens proud with the wind power he generates every time he strikes out.
3. Delmon is a malcontent.
4. Having a backup middle infielder with pop is a good thing and they don't exactly grow on trees. Meanwhile, I can find an OF with 10 HRs and a .340 OBP that isn't a whiny ##### easily.
Does this help?
Hmmmmm
Young has been fine with the Twins.Your reading comprehension really sucks. I'll try one last time:I know that Delmon is talented. I also know that he is a malcontent and his HR power hasn't come around. I can find another OF that can hit for good average and OBP easily that isn't a clubhouse cancer.A 23 year old outfielder who can hit for average, steal bases, excellent bat speed, excellent throwing arm, 5 tool potential.Or a 27 year old backup middle infielder who cant hit for average, has pop.Not sure where the confusion is.1. I'm not picking Zobrist over Pujols, I'm just comparing him to Delmon.If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.![]()
2. Delmon has a whopping 10 HRs and makes T Boone Pickens proud with the wind power he generates every time he strikes out.
3. Delmon is a malcontent.
4. Having a backup middle infielder with pop is a good thing and they don't exactly grow on trees. Meanwhile, I can find an OF with 10 HRs and a .340 OBP that isn't a whiny ##### easily.
Does this help?
Hmmmmm
Meanwhile, Zobrist is a cheap backup middle infielder that has pop and a similar OBP to Delmon's and isn't a malcontent.
Have I made myself clear enough?
A guy in your OF with a .749 OPS is "fine", I guess. Give me the middle infielder with the .804 OPS coming off my bench.Young has been fine with the Twins.Your reading comprehension really sucks. I'll try one last time:I know that Delmon is talented. I also know that he is a malcontent and his HR power hasn't come around. I can find another OF that can hit for good average and OBP easily that isn't a clubhouse cancer.A 23 year old outfielder who can hit for average, steal bases, excellent bat speed, excellent throwing arm, 5 tool potential.Or a 27 year old backup middle infielder who cant hit for average, has pop.Not sure where the confusion is.1. I'm not picking Zobrist over Pujols, I'm just comparing him to Delmon.If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.![]()
2. Delmon has a whopping 10 HRs and makes T Boone Pickens proud with the wind power he generates every time he strikes out.
3. Delmon is a malcontent.
4. Having a backup middle infielder with pop is a good thing and they don't exactly grow on trees. Meanwhile, I can find an OF with 10 HRs and a .340 OBP that isn't a whiny ##### easily.
Does this help?
Hmmmmm
Meanwhile, Zobrist is a cheap backup middle infielder that has pop and a similar OBP to Delmon's and isn't a malcontent.
Have I made myself clear enough?
Young has been fine with the Twins.Your reading comprehension really sucks. I'll try one last time:I know that Delmon is talented. I also know that he is a malcontent and his HR power hasn't come around. I can find another OF that can hit for good average and OBP easily that isn't a clubhouse cancer.A 23 year old outfielder who can hit for average, steal bases, excellent bat speed, excellent throwing arm, 5 tool potential.Or a 27 year old backup middle infielder who cant hit for average, has pop.Not sure where the confusion is.1. I'm not picking Zobrist over Pujols, I'm just comparing him to Delmon.If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.![]()
2. Delmon has a whopping 10 HRs and makes T Boone Pickens proud with the wind power he generates every time he strikes out.
3. Delmon is a malcontent.
4. Having a backup middle infielder with pop is a good thing and they don't exactly grow on trees. Meanwhile, I can find an OF with 10 HRs and a .340 OBP that isn't a whiny ##### easily.
Does this help?
Hmmmmm
Meanwhile, Zobrist is a cheap backup middle infielder that has pop and a similar OBP to Delmon's and isn't a malcontent.
Have I made myself clear enough?
So, you're just going to forget about that whole bat tossing incident and those times when he sulked about being in AAA and just assume that he's a reformed man just like that?Young has been fine with the Twins.Your reading comprehension really sucks. I'll try one last time:I know that Delmon is talented. I also know that he is a malcontent and his HR power hasn't come around. I can find another OF that can hit for good average and OBP easily that isn't a clubhouse cancer.A 23 year old outfielder who can hit for average, steal bases, excellent bat speed, excellent throwing arm, 5 tool potential.Or a 27 year old backup middle infielder who cant hit for average, has pop.Not sure where the confusion is.1. I'm not picking Zobrist over Pujols, I'm just comparing him to Delmon.If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.![]()
2. Delmon has a whopping 10 HRs and makes T Boone Pickens proud with the wind power he generates every time he strikes out.
3. Delmon is a malcontent.
4. Having a backup middle infielder with pop is a good thing and they don't exactly grow on trees. Meanwhile, I can find an OF with 10 HRs and a .340 OBP that isn't a whiny ##### easily.
Does this help?
Hmmmmm
Meanwhile, Zobrist is a cheap backup middle infielder that has pop and a similar OBP to Delmon's and isn't a malcontent.
Have I made myself clear enough?Haven't heard anything about Young being 'malcontent' since he's gone to the Twins.
So you're just going to assume that player can't mature?So, you're just going to forget about that whole bat tossing incident and those times when he sulked about being in AAA and just assume that he's a reformed man just like that?Young has been fine with the Twins.Your reading comprehension really sucks. I'll try one last time:I know that Delmon is talented. I also know that he is a malcontent and his HR power hasn't come around. I can find another OF that can hit for good average and OBP easily that isn't a clubhouse cancer.A 23 year old outfielder who can hit for average, steal bases, excellent bat speed, excellent throwing arm, 5 tool potential.Or a 27 year old backup middle infielder who cant hit for average, has pop.Not sure where the confusion is.1. I'm not picking Zobrist over Pujols, I'm just comparing him to Delmon.If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.![]()
2. Delmon has a whopping 10 HRs and makes T Boone Pickens proud with the wind power he generates every time he strikes out.
3. Delmon is a malcontent.
4. Having a backup middle infielder with pop is a good thing and they don't exactly grow on trees. Meanwhile, I can find an OF with 10 HRs and a .340 OBP that isn't a whiny ##### easily.
Does this help?
Hmmmmm
Meanwhile, Zobrist is a cheap backup middle infielder that has pop and a similar OBP to Delmon's and isn't a malcontent.
Have I made myself clear enough?Haven't heard anything about Young being 'malcontent' since he's gone to the Twins.
I understand that some players mature and shed their distraction labels later on in their careers, and some don't and fade into obscurity. If it were my team, I wouldn't want anything to do with Delmon because there's so many other OF's available. If he were playing a position with some offensive scarcity like Catcher or 2nd Base, then I probably would look at him. To me, it's just a combo of positional depth and reputation that would shy me away from him, that's all.I'll go on record as saying that he's as good as bet to mature as anyone, and I hope he does, as he is talented.So you're just going to assume that player can't mature?So, you're just going to forget about that whole bat tossing incident and those times when he sulked about being in AAA and just assume that he's a reformed man just like that?Young has been fine with the Twins.Your reading comprehension really sucks. I'll try one last time:I know that Delmon is talented. I also know that he is a malcontent and his HR power hasn't come around. I can find another OF that can hit for good average and OBP easily that isn't a clubhouse cancer.A 23 year old outfielder who can hit for average, steal bases, excellent bat speed, excellent throwing arm, 5 tool potential.Or a 27 year old backup middle infielder who cant hit for average, has pop.Not sure where the confusion is.1. I'm not picking Zobrist over Pujols, I'm just comparing him to Delmon.If I had my choice of these two to add to my MLB team, I'd choose Zobrist in a heartbeat. A reserve middle infielder with pop and ok OBP is much better than a whiff machine OF with attitude problems.Getting Garza and Bartlett for Delmon was a fantastic move.I started this thread in jest, but jesus..Ben has become quite the offensive force in his limited playing-time.![]()
2. Delmon has a whopping 10 HRs and makes T Boone Pickens proud with the wind power he generates every time he strikes out.
3. Delmon is a malcontent.
4. Having a backup middle infielder with pop is a good thing and they don't exactly grow on trees. Meanwhile, I can find an OF with 10 HRs and a .340 OBP that isn't a whiny ##### easily.
Does this help?
Hmmmmm
Meanwhile, Zobrist is a cheap backup middle infielder that has pop and a similar OBP to Delmon's and isn't a malcontent.
Have I made myself clear enough?Haven't heard anything about Young being 'malcontent' since he's gone to the Twins.
Brandon Inge 42009:Ben Zobrist: 1Delmon Young: 0As of 4/12/09
To be fair, Delmon did counter with a HR of his own today, so we're tied at 1 to begin the season.Maybe Delmon's power will finally show up.Zobrist is a really good player, out of nowhere. I think I agree with Phoenix. I don't think I would trade him straight-up for Delmon.![]()
But seriously, who cares about Inge or Longoria, this thread is about the greatness that is Ben Zobrist...oh, and Delmon Young too.Brandon Inge 4 Evan Longoria 52009:
Ben Zobrist: 1
Delmon Young: 0
As of 4/12/09
What the hell does he have to do?OF Ben Zobrist started his third straight game in right field and sixth in the team's 16, but manager Joe Maddon said he is not making Zobrist the regular starter. "We're not ready to go there," Maddon said. "Gabe (Gross) is going to get back out there, of course Gabe Kapler is going to be out there."
Maddon is weird about his player usage. Sometimes he jams them into roles and is not comfortable with taking them out of it. Zobrist is currently the "super-sub" when he should be "every day rightfielder, batting sixth in the lineup". But he's starting tonight so hopefully the tide is turning.WTF does Zorbrist need to do to start everyday?
yup. very frustrating. even moreso as a Rays fan.HR, 3 RBI, 2 walks, and 2 R yesterday, and Maddon can't wait to get Gross back into the lineup tonight. Give me a ####ing break.
aaaaaaaand another.guy is a ####ing stud.Pinch hit HR to tie the game
Garza and BartlettWhat ever happened to Delmon Young?Yankees fan here. I just watched them play the Twins for 4 games and didn't see Young once.Did TB rape them on that trade? Jeezus.
Barlett is currently hitting .376, and hit .286 last year with 20 steals. Garza is 4-2 with a 3.41 ERA and leads the Rays in innings pitched. Last year he was 11-9 with a 3.70 ERA. That's not bad on either end.So, again, I ask: what happened to Delmon Young?Garza and BartlettWhat ever happened to Delmon Young?Yankees fan here. I just watched them play the Twins for 4 games and didn't see Young once.Did TB rape them on that trade? Jeezus.Yea, they bent them over pretty well there.
I think Young left the team for the week to attend his mother's funeral.I just looked him up. Not sure why he wasn't in the field vs. the Yanks for 4 games (is he hurt?), but he's hitting .277 with a .322 OBP and 1 HR.I'd say TB took the Twins so far.
Shuke comes through with the info.I think Young left the team for the week to attend his mother's funeral.I just looked him up. Not sure why he wasn't in the field vs. the Yanks for 4 games (is he hurt?), but he's hitting .277 with a .322 OBP and 1 HR.I'd say TB took the Twins so far.