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So much wrong about Lavar as a person and a father.  I feel sorry for his kids - they may have actually been something if they had a normal dad.

Reminds me of when Don King took over Tyson's promoting, no matter how much talent was there you just knew it was going to be a train wreck.

 
Of note:  I know these kids are half white, but according to the census there are only 252 black people in all of Lithuania.

UCLA has to be very happy.  They got the one good player, then were able to ditch the Dad by sticking the middle kid on the end of the bench.  Otherwise they'd be dealing with this debacle for about 6 more years.

 
TLEF316 said:
Yeah they'll be home by Valentine's day. 
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I don’t even know if it will be this long. Granted there are some younger players in the “D” league but there are adults there and they are going to laugh at some little 16-17 year old trying to tell them what to do.

 
Are there laws against forcing your teenage kids to work for minimum wage in foreign countries?  Asking for a friend...

 
Brunell4MVP said:
Of note:  I know these kids are half white, but according to the census there are only 252 black people in all of Lithuania.

UCLA has to be very happy.  They got the one good player, then were able to ditch the Dad by sticking the middle kid on the end of the bench.  Otherwise they'd be dealing with this debacle for about 6 more years.
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if UCLA somehow go some fraud alert up on Ball's credit card while he was in China because that shoplifting spree was true gift for them.

 
SayWhat? said:
LiAngelo and LaMelo sign with Vytautas of the Lithuanian league. 

Honestly, what LaVar is doing to these kids is a shame.  That said, I can't help but smirk when you read the article. 

  - Prienu Vytautas, or BC Prienai as it's often called, is a low-level club from a small, non-English speaking village of roughly 10,000 people in southern Lithuania. 

  - The team has been grappling with financial issues.

  - The club plays in a 1,700-seat arena; 500 of those seats are reserved for team sponsors and their friends. Tickets cost around 5 euros. 

I'm sure these spoiled kids are going to love living in a town of 10,000 in Lithuania playing in front of 1,700 people who paid $6 (six bucks!  :lmao: ) to get into the game, 99% of which will no doubt despise their lazy asses.  I'm setting the over/under at 28 days.  What a train wreck.
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I’m taking the under.  

 
shadyridr said:
I wonder if the wife wasn't sick of she'd allow this. He has free reign with her being so sick. 
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I've thought the same thing. Obviously he's an incredibly dominant personality but her illness absolutely gives him free reign.

I legitimately feel bad for everyone involved,(besides Lavar obviously,)

 
I really feel bad for the youngest son. He was a legit pro prospect who will never get the development he needs. Awful. 

 
Capella said:
I really feel bad for the youngest son. He was a legit pro prospect who will never get the development he needs. Awful. 
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Would he really get much more development playing high school, AAU, and 1 year of college?  

If the kid has talent, and the work ethic, he'll make it to the NBA.

 
I’m thinking a lot more development in college. This sounds like a local rec team.

Vytautas plays in the Lithuanian (LKL) league, but it is unlikely the Ball brothers would see significant playing time in that league. Vytautas also plays in the lesser competitive Baltic League, where the teenagers could see more playing time. The team has discussed a role of 20 to 25 minutes a game apiece in the Baltic League, a source told ESPN.

Prienu Vytautas, or BC Prienai as it's often called, is a low-level club from a small, non-English speaking village of roughly 10,000 people in southern Lithuania. The team has been grappling with financial issues, and started the season losing eight of its first 12 games in the Lithuanian league.

The club plays in a 1,700-seat arena; 500 of those seats are reserved for team sponsors and their friends. Tickets cost around 5 euro.

The team has no general manager and doesn't practice regularly due to the poor financial situation.

The team's best player currently is likely the coach's son, Edvinas Seskus, who was considered a huge prospect as a teenager but didn't develop as expected, partially due to injuries.

 
Capella said:
As opposed to the Lithuanian D league? Yes, he would get substantially more development. 
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I doubt it.  He was always going to be coached by his dad.  That is still the case.

There is a path here, where playing against bigger and stronger players will also help his development more than playing against high school kids.

I am not saying he will make it to the NBA - but this is not really a roadblock to that path - its just a different path.  (Admittedly, there are probably no Lithuanian D leaguers who have made it to the NBA - but that is only slightly worse odds than a HS player making it to the NBA...) 

 
Norman Paperman said:
I doubt it.  He was always going to be coached by his dad.  That is still the case.

There is a path here, where playing against bigger and stronger players will also help his development more than playing against high school kids.

I am not saying he will make it to the NBA - but this is not really a roadblock to that path - its just a different path.  (Admittedly, there are probably no Lithuanian D leaguers who have made it to the NBA - but that is only slightly worse odds than a HS player making it to the NBA...) 
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At ucla he would be coached by ucla's staff. They did a pretty good job with Lonzo. 

I just don't know what to tell you if you think this is not a significant step back in both coaching and talent faced. 

 
Norman Paperman said:
I doubt it.  He was always going to be coached by his dad.  That is still the case.

There is a path here, where playing against bigger and stronger players will also help his development more than playing against high school kids.

I am not saying he will make it to the NBA - but this is not really a roadblock to that path - its just a different path.  (Admittedly, there are probably no Lithuanian D leaguers who have made it to the NBA - but that is only slightly worse odds than a HS player making it to the NBA...) 
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It's absolutely a more difficult path.  To think it's not is a bit out there.  Of course he's getting better coaching and training here in the US, and especially at UCLA when he would've went there (which should be out of the question now), than he is in Lithuania.  Toss on top of this what a pain in the ### his dad is, and I'm afraid scouts aren't going out of their way to champion for this kid.  

 
SayWhat? said:
It's absolutely a more difficult path.  To think it's not is a bit out there.  Of course he's getting better coaching and training here in the US, and especially at UCLA when he would've went there (which should be out of the question now), than he is in Lithuania.  Toss on top of this what a pain in the ### his dad is, and I'm afraid scouts aren't going out of their way to champion for this kid.  
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Nah.

Lamelo is a sophomore right?  So, he had 3 years of high school and AAU, followed by 1 year at UCLA.  His HS years would have been dominated by his dad's coaching - as it seems LaVar is smarter than any HS coach... and UCLA coaches were not going to do much for him in the 6 months or so he was there.  And, quite frankly, college eligibility may already be down the drain, so UCLA was never a real possibility...

If he has the talent and the work ethic, he will make it to the NBA - with or without UCLA.  And his dad is still a pain in the ### no matter where he plays - so that does not change the dynamic.

 
Yeah, a barely professional team in Lithuania has absolutely zero incentive to develop lamelo as a player. They don't have the resources or expertise to do so even if they wanted to. They don't even have the money to practice every day.

They're paying for the Balls as a sideshow for a little publicity and a temporary bump in ticket sales so they can fix the ice machine or something.

The other players and coaches will grow tired of this right around the time that Lamelo's first 35 footer misses the rim by 2 yards. And Lavar will be over it the first time his boys don't get their 65 shots.(which will be game 1). The boys are already tired of it.

 
TLEF316 said:
Yeah, a barely professional team in Lithuania has absolutely zero incentive to develop lamelo as a player. They don't have the resources or expertise to do so even if they wanted to. They don't even have the money to practice every day.

They're paying for the Balls as a sideshow for a little publicity and a temporary bump in ticket sales so they can fix the ice machine or something.

The other players and coaches will grow tired of this right around the time that Lamelo's first 35 footer misses the rim by 2 yards. And Lavar will be over it the first time his boys don't get their 65 shots.(which will be game 1). The boys are already tired of it.
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Right, so does any of this #### even matter? These boys aren't real prospects. Whether they are in Lithuania or LA, does it change their future at all? You know aside from the UCLA education and all. Best I can tell, being in LA would get them an extra stupid person to buy these shoes or 3, but other than that, 6 and a half dozen the other, right?

 
By the way the BBB shoes are butt ugly.  Around here you' be laughed at if you wore them for not only paying $$$ for them but horrible looking. Shoes are a running joke at the local high schools.

 
pollardsvision said:
Right, so does any of this #### even matter? These boys aren't real prospects. Whether they are in Lithuania or LA, does it change their future at all? You know aside from the UCLA education and all. Best I can tell, being in LA would get them an extra stupid person to buy these shoes or 3, but other than that, 6 and a half dozen the other, right?
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LaMelo is/was absolutely a prospect.  

@Capellais exactly right.  This is disasterous for his future.  Sad really. 

 
Sounds about right. Picturing Latka Gravas  as the Lithuanian coach.

@franfraschilla: Prominant former American player who played for Ball brothers's new coach had some insight on him: 1. Competent coach w/free-wheeling pick-and-roll offense. 2. Speaks no English 3. Screams the entire game. 4. Sold meat out of his car trunk to his players after practice. I swear.

 
Big Baller going to start their own league now.  This guy is delusion defined.  Right, the "one and done" college kids that are legit top NBA prospects are going to be flocking to your flunky AAU-esque league to play in front of 1,000 people in order to grab $10K per month in advance of the millions they'll make one year later all the while bypassing the opportunity to be legends at places like Duke, UK, UNC, Kansas, and pick whichever other D1s you want.  I suppose throwing in the free BBB shoes is going to tip the scales though.  Oh, and I'm voting for the Lonzo jumpshot logo which would make the logo look like it has dislocated arms. 

This guy and Trump should use their vast wealth, buy an island, and disappear together.

 
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LaMelo :lmao:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lamelo-ball-slaps-opponent-brawl-return-lithuania-194148679.html

In the video, Ball tries to drive to the lane and misses a shot. It didn’t look like there was a ton of contact or an aggressive foul on the play. As both players are walking back toward the court, Ball’s opponent touches the back of his head. Ball responds by slapping him in the face, and that leads to shoves and limbs flailing wildly.

Ball was ejected for his actions during the brawl.
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Capella said:
As opposed to the Lithuanian D league? Yes, he would get substantially more development. 
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Wtf are you talking about? Kid had a real chance to develop playing with the likes of Bartas Aleksandravicius, Egidijus Dimsa, & company.

If you aren’t going to learn from greats like Martynas Linkevicius, you might as well walk away from the game.

 
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