***OFFICIAL*** Boardwalk Empire thread (1 Viewer)

[Ilov80s]

Can we assume Van Alden will now turn to crime full time?

Doesn't seem like he has much of a choice?

 

[Borat]

I would venture to guess that half the people (general America, not us genuises) watching the show never even heard of Al Capone and think this is all made up. There are a lot of stupid people in this country.

Disagree with Capone, because I think he's the most well known character on this show IRL, but I bet you're right about AR, Lucky, and Lansky.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I would venture to guess that half the people (general America, not us genuises) watching the show never even heard of Al Capone and think this is all made up. There are a lot of stupid people in this country.

Disagree with Capone, because I think he's the most well known character on this show IRL, but I bet you're right about AR, Lucky, and Lansky.

Definitely. Capone was the antagonist in The Untouchables - a very popular movie. Capone's a cultural meme, unlike Rothstein, Luciano, and Lansky.

 

[Ilov80s]

I can see the argument both ways. On one hand, Lansky or AR are minor players in history so it shouldn't be a surprise (or an abomination) that many people would not be familiar with their personal history beyond an awareness they were gangsters. On the other hand, it is a show about 1920s era gangsters and I'd expect a large percentage of the viewing audience to be fans of the gangster genre. It isn't a leap to expect those fans to have a greater knowledge of famous gangsters than the average person off the street.

 

[Borat]

I can see the argument both ways. On one hand, Lansky or AR are minor players in history so it shouldn't be a surprise (or an abomination) that many people would not be familiar with their personal history beyond an awareness they were gangsters. On the other hand, it is a show about 1920s era gangsters and I'd expect a large percentage of the viewing audience to be fans of the gangster genre. It isn't a leap to expect those fans to have a greater knowledge of famous gangsters than the average person off the street.

I understand what you're saying, but Arnold Rothstein probably had a major hand in fixing the World Series. That's a pretty big deal.

 

[Thunderlips]

I can see the argument both ways. On one hand, Lansky or AR are minor players in history so it shouldn't be a surprise (or an abomination) that many people would not be familiar with their personal history beyond an awareness they were gangsters. On the other hand, it is a show about 1920s era gangsters and I'd expect a large percentage of the viewing audience to be fans of the gangster genre. It isn't a leap to expect those fans to have a greater knowledge of famous gangsters than the average person off the street.

I understand what you're saying, but Arnold Rothstein probably had a major hand in fixing the World Series. That's a pretty big deal.

Yeah...but I seriously doubt he was as meticulous as Gus Fring.

 

[Moe.]

This thread has taken an interesting turn. The show is historical fiction. I'm not really sure what there is to spoil.

 

[Christo]

This thread has taken an interesting turn. The show is historical fiction. I'm not really sure what there is to spoil.

Not to mention the fact that reading that so-and-so died in such-and-such a manner in year XXXX today is going to affect anyone's enjoyment of Season 3, which is not scheduled to be shown until next Fall.

 

[Borat]

This thread has taken an interesting turn. The show is historical fiction. I'm not really sure what there is to spoil.

So you foresaw everything that happened in the first two seasons?

 

[Moe.]

This thread has taken an interesting turn. The show is historical fiction. I'm not really sure what there is to spoil.

So you foresaw everything that happened in the first two seasons?

Of a fictional tv show? Of course not. That's the point. Nobody knows the plot of the show.

 

[Fullback Fro]

This thread has turned into a pile of scat.

 

[Borat]

This thread has taken an interesting turn. The show is historical fiction. I'm not really sure what there is to spoil.

So you foresaw everything that happened in the first two seasons?

Of a fictional tv show? Of course not. That's the point. Nobody knows the plot of the show.

 

[Moe.]

This thread has taken an interesting turn. The show is historical fiction. I'm not really sure what there is to spoil.

So you foresaw everything that happened in the first two seasons?

Of a fictional tv show? Of course not. That's the point. Nobody knows the plot of the show.

I'm not sure what you are confused about. Nobody that posts here knows what is going to happen in season 3. How can anybody spoil anything?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Intellectual curiosity hasnt prompted anybody to look into these guys/the era?

I did I never heard of Rothstein, Nucky, or Lansky before.

WTF.OK, I'm off to watch Downfall. NO SPOILERS.

 

[BigTex]

I'm glad this season is over because this thread just went to hell.

 

[bushdocda]

Jimmy gets whacked and this thread dies all in one week.

Sick scene (at least Jimmy's portion) at the war memorial. He had gotten really good. A lot of the secondary guys around Nucky are dull so I wonder how the writers expand the story going forward. Will Owen or Chalky get more involved as Nucky gets more business going with Chicago?

Doubt Harrow joins Nucky but maybe he heads to Chicago.

 

[gandalas]

Game of Thrones, for example, after the first two episodes, I just wanted to know more about the characters and the backgrounds etc., so I bought the books and started to read them and asked lots of questions along the way. Why have things spoon fed to you?

Because some of us have other interests. I'd rather spend that time studying Django Reinhart scales and music gear that I can apply to my own recordings. Or pounding Budweiser on the curling sheet. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy watching an HBO show an hour a week. And it also doesn't mean I won't read the book at some point. People have different priorities.

Don't have the time? It is a wikipedia page, guy. Takes all of about 10 minutes to learn ALL about these guys.I had no idea who any of these people were (outside of Capone and Luciano), but was interested, so I looked them up. Enjoy the show even more now...Not like you have to go to the Library and take out a bunch of books on the subject or something...

 

[kupcho1]

One thing not mentioned yet: Micky Doyle = survivor

 

[jdoggydogg]

One thing not mentioned yet: Micky Doyle = survivor

Never occurred to me he'd last this long. Which is fine, because he's an amusing character.

 

[Raider Nation]

One thing not mentioned yet: Micky Doyle = survivor

Never occurred to me he'd last this long. Which is fine sucks, because he's an amusing annoying character.

 

[shadyridr]

One thing not mentioned yet: Micky Doyle = survivor

Never occurred to me he'd last this long. Which is fine, because he's an amusing character.

Well in real life he died in 1934 during the Depression cuz nobody made him laugh anymore

 

[shadyridr]

One thing not mentioned yet: Micky Doyle = survivor

Never occurred to me he'd last this long. Which is fine sucks, because he's an amusing annoying character.

 

[Raider Nation]

I would imagine hell is something like Mickey and Flynn being on either side of you, each talking nonstop.

 

[jdoggydogg]

One thing not mentioned yet: Micky Doyle = survivor

Never occurred to me he'd last this long. Which is fine sucks, because he's an amusing annoying character.

Do you have aspergers?

 

[jdoggydogg]

One thing not mentioned yet: Micky Doyle = survivor

Never occurred to me he'd last this long. Which is fine sucks, because he's an amusing annoying character.

Do you have aspergers?

 

[Big_Russel]

I would imagine hell is something like Mickey and Flynn being on either side of you, each talking nonstop.

With Margaret cooking the evening slop.

 

[Reg Lllama of Brixton]

Well at least Jimmy helped the US win WWI.

Crap, should that have been in a spoiler?

 

[Big_Russel]

Well at least Jimmy helped the US win WWI.Crap, should that have been in a spoiler?

Oh, can it already.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Late to the party - just watched the finale and it solidifies my logic when it comes to staying out of these threads until I'm up to date.....

Fantastic twist, slack-jawed from the moment Nucky pulled the trigger until the 'after the episode' stuff completed.

To the people that are saying, 'how can they do that?' and 'I'm done watching'....

What are you thinking? The story line has been great and if they'll do that, who in the hell knows what's coming next? Personally, I can't wait. This is just a great show and I don't think I've left a season finale this anxious for the next season since the light went on in the hatch.

Also - I have to myself for not realizing Whitlock was Uncle Junior until this episode.

 

[Phenix]

if you ever wonder why this site has turned to crap, see this thread.

 

[Chadstroma]

I would venture to guess that half the people (general America, not us genuises) watching the show never even heard of Al Capone and think this is all made up. There are a lot of stupid people in this country.

Disagree with Capone, because I think he's the most well known character on this show IRL, but I bet you're right about AR, Lucky, and Lansky.

Yea, everyone knows Al Capone. He has been a character in enough movies and tv shows that even the drooling moron on the street knows his name. However, with the others, I am sure they just think that they have been made up.

 

[Chadstroma]

One thing not mentioned yet: Micky Doyle = survivor

There is no way that he survives the series.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I would venture to guess that half the people (general America, not us genuises) watching the show never even heard of Al Capone and think this is all made up. There are a lot of stupid people in this country.

Disagree with Capone, because I think he's the most well known character on this show IRL, but I bet you're right about AR, Lucky, and Lansky.

Yea, everyone knows Al Capone. He has been a character in enough movies and tv shows that even the drooling moron on the street knows his name. However, with the others, I am sure they just think that they have been made up.

There have been other movies and tv shows with rothstein, meyer lansky, and bugsy: 8 men out, mobsters, and bugsy come immediately to mind.

 

[Apple Jack]

I would venture to guess that half the people (general America, not us genuises) watching the show never even heard of Al Capone and think this is all made up. There are a lot of stupid people in this country.

Disagree with Capone, because I think he's the most well known character on this show IRL, but I bet you're right about AR, Lucky, and Lansky.

Yea, everyone knows Al Capone. He has been a character in enough movies and tv shows that even the drooling moron on the street knows his name. However, with the others, I am sure they just think that they have been made up.

There have been other movies and tv shows with rothstein, meyer lansky, and bugsy: 8 men out, mobsters, and bugsy come immediately to mind.

Sure, but people actually saw The Untouchables and Capone. And the Geraldo thing was inescapable for anybody over the age of 10 when it happened.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

One thing not mentioned yet: Micky Doyle = survivor

There is no way that he survives the series.

It would be kind of great if he did. If it made sense, of course.

 

[gump]

Currently summer 1921

Oh wow....thought we'd advanced a few years....we have a while then.

Dempsey fought Carpentier on July 2 1921 in Jersey City.

The players are being introduced but we are along way from 1929

Jimmy's had an eventful year.That makes sense though...I'd guess those later events will be towards the end of the show anyway. I'll be surprised if Jimmy makes it that far.

 

[Ilov80s]

I can see the argument both ways. On one hand, Lansky or AR are minor players in history so it shouldn't be a surprise (or an abomination) that many people would not be familiar with their personal history beyond an awareness they were gangsters. On the other hand, it is a show about 1920s era gangsters and I'd expect a large percentage of the viewing audience to be fans of the gangster genre. It isn't a leap to expect those fans to have a greater knowledge of famous gangsters than the average person off the street.

I understand what you're saying, but Arnold Rothstein probably had a major hand in fixing the World Series. That's a pretty big deal.

Not really. It is an interesting historical factoid, but generally irrelevant to American History.

 

[Ilov80s]

One thing not mentioned yet: Micky Doyle = survivor

There is no way that he survives the series.

I think he is just the type to survive: useful enough to keep around, too pathetic to be a real threat

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The show will move on without James, there are a lot of ways they could go. Just expanding the Rothstein portion by introducing a Dutch Schultz character or any number of New York gangsters of the time. Plus they can introduce any IRA characters with relative ease, they can move through all things political and they can open up the characters of Owen Sleater and Waxey Gordan who was actually quite a proficient criminal of that era.

Love the Munya edition, always have been a big fan of William Forsythe. Margaret signing over the land to the church was a nice touch.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

How the hell did this thread get so bad? I mean Goggins isn't even here to ruin it yet somehow it is a complete for about seven pages. Oof.

 

[Chadstroma]

I would venture to guess that half the people (general America, not us genuises) watching the show never even heard of Al Capone and think this is all made up. There are a lot of stupid people in this country.

Disagree with Capone, because I think he's the most well known character on this show IRL, but I bet you're right about AR, Lucky, and Lansky.

Yea, everyone knows Al Capone. He has been a character in enough movies and tv shows that even the drooling moron on the street knows his name. However, with the others, I am sure they just think that they have been made up.

There have been other movies and tv shows with rothstein, meyer lansky, and bugsy: 8 men out, mobsters, and bugsy come immediately to mind.

Rothstein and Lanksy have very little name recognition. Just because they were characters in movies does not mean that they will be widely known. It is just like wild west outlaws- there were many but pretty much everyone has heard of Billy the Kid. Of course there are others like Jesse James that will get almost as much name recognition but then you get into a guy like Cole Younger and the name recognition is limited to those interested in the subject matter or have a general knowledge of American history or movie buffs. Guys like Billy and Scarface capture the whole genre within their character. If you ask someone name a 1930's gangster- what % do you think would say Al Capone? Same with Billy if you asked them to name a wild west gunslinger. Capone = Billy the Kid. Rothstein = Cole Younger.

 

[Ilov80s]

The show will move on without James, there are a lot of ways they could go. Just expanding the Rothstein portion by introducing a Dutch Schultz character or any number of New York gangsters of the time. Plus they can introduce any IRA characters with relative ease, they can move through all things political and they can open up the characters of Owen Sleater and Waxey Gordan who was actually quite a proficient criminal of that era. Love the Munya edition, always have been a big fan of William Forsythe. Margaret signing over the land to the church was a nice touch.

It can work because there is an endless amount of interesting source material. However, a lot of it has been done before and has become gangster cliche in some ways. The show will need to further develop some of the fringe characters or find a new player to join Nucky as a co-lead. Darmondy was every bit as much of a main character as Nucky (IMO he was a much better written and acted character). It will be a major test for the writers. It takes really top notch writing to kill off main characters, create new ones and continue the same momentum.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Rothstein and Lanksy have very little name recognition.

I completely disagree with this. Historically speaking they both have great name recognition and when people think 1920s/30s gangsters, Lansky is at the forefront. Rothstein did something quite unique in this country's history, he almost single-handedly fixed the World Series. He's easily one of the most known gamblers ever. If people don't know who Lansky and Rothstein are they don't know the time period. Those same people don't know who Harding or Coolidge are either. F. Scott Fitzgerald doesn't have name recognition? Charles Lindbergh? Dunno. But if you don't know who F. Scott Fitzgerald or Charles Lindberg are you probably never paid attention in school. Doesn't mean those guys don't have name recognition. You are giving way too much credit to the average American, or maybe, too little.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Just an FYI, Owen Sleater is apparently the sideline guy for MNF tonight.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Rothstein and Lanksy have very little name recognition.

I completely disagree with this. Historically speaking they both have great name recognition and when people think 1920s/30s gangsters, Lansky is at the forefront. Rothstein did something quite unique in this country's history, he almost single-handedly fixed the World Series. He's easily one of the most known gamblers ever. If people don't know who Lansky and Rothstein are they don't know the time period. Those same people don't know who Harding or Coolidge are either. F. Scott Fitzgerald doesn't have name recognition? Charles Lindbergh? Dunno. But if you don't know who F. Scott Fitzgerald or Charles Lindberg are you probably never paid attention in school. Doesn't mean those guys don't have name recognition. You are giving way too much credit to the average American, or maybe, too little.

I really like this show, but haven't heard of these guys before

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Rothstein and Lanksy have very little name recognition.

I completely disagree with this. Historically speaking they both have great name recognition and when people think 1920s/30s gangsters, Lansky is at the forefront. Rothstein did something quite unique in this country's history, he almost single-handedly fixed the World Series. He's easily one of the most known gamblers ever. If people don't know who Lansky and Rothstein are they don't know the time period. Those same people don't know who Harding or Coolidge are either. F. Scott Fitzgerald doesn't have name recognition? Charles Lindbergh? Dunno. But if you don't know who F. Scott Fitzgerald or Charles Lindberg are you probably never paid attention in school. Doesn't mean those guys don't have name recognition. You are giving way too much credit to the average American, or maybe, too little.

I really like this show, but haven't heard of these guys before

Does it matter though?

 

[Tiger Fan]

Rothstein and Lanksy have very little name recognition.

I completely disagree with this. Historically speaking they both have great name recognition and when people think 1920s/30s gangsters, Lansky is at the forefront. Rothstein did something quite unique in this country's history, he almost single-handedly fixed the World Series. He's easily one of the most known gamblers ever. If people don't know who Lansky and Rothstein are they don't know the time period. Those same people don't know who Harding or Coolidge are either. F. Scott Fitzgerald doesn't have name recognition? Charles Lindbergh? Dunno. But if you don't know who F. Scott Fitzgerald or Charles Lindberg are you probably never paid attention in school. Doesn't mean those guys don't have name recognition. You are giving way too much credit to the average American, or maybe, too little.

I really like this show, but haven't heard of these guys before

Does it matter though?

Not at all...just saying

 

[dickey moe]

Yes, Margaret is brutal.

Carmella-ish. Just more annoying.

I don't know what you guys are smoking, but Margaret is awesome. Lucy Danziger: So what's the point?Margaret Schroeder: That maybe your cunny isn't quite the draw you think it is. That's been the best line of the series so far.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Yes, Margaret is brutal.

Carmella-ish. Just more annoying.

I don't know what you guys are smoking, but Margaret is awesome. Lucy Danziger: So what's the point?Margaret Schroeder: That maybe your cunny isn't quite the draw you think it is. That's been the best line of the series so far.

Yeah I like her also.

 

[LittleLarry]

I'm sad to see Jimmy go, I enjoyed his character.

Not sad I won't have to watch Jimmy and his mom get it on anymore.