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***OFFICIAL*** Boardwalk Empire thread (1 Viewer)

Michael Brown said:
In a way, BE suffers from the same stuff Sopranos had to deal with and GOT currently deals with. There are just so many characters and side plots, and yeah some of them are clunkers but they spread it pretty thin to be able to create such an epic, wide-ranging show. And to be honest, some of the side storylines aren't that bad in and of themselves, but the bar is set so high by the "good" stuff that the lesser aspects pale in comparison. For instance, we maybe don't wanna see what happens with Mickey, because we just wanna see Rothstein or Capone or Harrow do Rothstein and Capone and Harrow stuff...but the Mickey stuff isn't ACTUALLY horrible.
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I love all the characters and side plots in GoT :shrug:

 
The Ref said:
The Ref said:
Premier said:
I hope they aren't going the Sopranos route of bringing in a new antagonist each season just to have him killed in the final episode of the year.
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I don't think the new antagonist pattern will have much to do with the Sopranos as much as the constraints of this show, same could be said for Deadwood and Rome. Your dealing with a show based on history, at least to some degree. You can't really kill Nucky, Capone, Rothstein or the like or the show starts to go off the historical rails. So short of killing off an existing character like Van Alden, Eli, Harrow and the like you have to conjure a antagonist every season. And if you think about it who is left as a non historically important character that is in a position to challenge Nucky right now? Only guy who is close to that is Chalky.

The Sopranos had the same issues in that they didn't want to kill off any of the main crew to make sure the show had a long run, I'd argue anyway.
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No kidding - so the guy they brought in this season is someone who can challenge Chalky? Didn't see that coming.
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Why do we need to bring in fictional antagonists at all? There was plenty going on in that era already.

 
Now that was a great episode! Plenty of Harrow, plenty of Al, plenty of boobs.

No Margaret or the children. COINCIDENCE???

:thumbup:

Anyone recognize the barkeep in the opening scene? He was the gas station owner whom Anton Chigurh ordered to call heads or tails.

 
"New York Sour" picks up well after the events of "Margate Sands." It's 1924, Chalky has completed the transformation of Babbette's into the Onyx Club, which Nucky is also using as a new base of operations, while he now lives in an empty old hotel on the outskirts of town. After Gyp Rosetti nearly killed him and conquered Atlantic City a year ago, Nucky has learned the value of isolating himself, and he finally brokers a peace with Rothstein, Masseria and the rest of New York. (And note that Luciano is now fully with Masseria, leaving Meyer Lansky as Arnold's number two.) Eddie is mostly healed from his wounds, Gillian is badly addicted to heroin after being injected by Gyp and losing custody of Tommy to Julia Sagorsky. Al Capone remains frustrated to be in Johnny Torrio's shadow, and has the help of brothers Frank and Ralph (the latter played by Domenick Lombardozzi from "The Wire") as he tries to take over Cicero. Eli's oldest son Willie — played by a new actor, Ben Rosenfield, in a way that initially made me believe this was another son, as opposed to the one who helped Nucky out during the war with Gyp — is enrolled at Temple but not fitting in. And Richard Harrow is traveling through the Midwest, performing several assassinations on his way to reunite with his sister Emma, whom he discussed often with Angela Darmody.The hour doesn't have time to catch up with every regular character — there's no Van Alden or Margaret yet, nor does new castmember Jeffrey Wright appear — but it's a pretty busy hour with much of an ensemble feel than usual. It continues to be bad news to have ever partnered with Van Alden in the Atlantic City field office, as Agent Sawicki gets killed by a booby-trapped shotgun, set up by new partner Knox, who isn't remotely the country bumpkin he makes himself out to be.

Nucky often dominates the action, but here we open and close with Richard, and the most notable story involves Chalky having to clean up the mess made when Dunn Purnsley murders a white talent scout who catches Dunn sleeping with his wife. As a fan of both Richard and Chalky, their relative prominence pleased me, and Chalky's story and new status quo in particular worked very well.

Because of all the gangster storylines, "Boardwalk" only sometimes has a chance to take a broader view of life in the '20s, and that's usually through Margaret. But the rise of jazz in this period begins to put black culture in front of white audiences, in ways that aren't always as marvelous and enlightened as black performers and businessmen might hope for. Nucky's showgirl date describes the Onyx Club dancer as "deliciously primitive," and Dickie and his wife have an elaborate, disgusting fantasy life where she has sex with big, dangerous black men like Dunn and he watches. The night ends fatally for Dickie, but not that well for Dunn, who loses track of the wife and then gets hazed by Chalky as they dispose of the one body they have.

Nucky makes peace with New York, and insists to Rothstein that he's perfectly happy with what he has, while Rothstein talks of how much trouble arises from a man's inability to sit quietly in a room by himself. If Nucky's life ever gained a peaceful, quiet equilibrium, there would be no show. Season 4 gets off to a very promising start by having the first spot of trouble originate in Chalky's corner of this world.
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HERC!

 
Raider Nation said:
Now that was a great episode! Plenty of Harrow, plenty of Al, plenty of boobs.

No Margaret or the children. COINCIDENCE???

:thumbup:

Anyone recognize the barkeep in the opening scene? He was the gas station owner whom Anton Chigurh ordered to call heads or tails.
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Right away.

Forgot he was the pharmacist in that Louie episode. Odd that a guy that old hasn't really been acting much.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0428122/

 
Raider Nation said:
Now that was a great episode! Plenty of Harrow, plenty of Al, plenty of boobs.

No Margaret or the children. COINCIDENCE???

:thumbup:

Anyone recognize the barkeep in the opening scene? He was the gas station owner whom Anton Chigurh ordered to call heads or tails.
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Show is so much better without Macdonald and Shannon interludes.

Hard to believe Richard would allow Mol to get the kid.

 
Dufus question that I don't feel like rewatching to answer. The guys Harrow took out and the title company guy were who?

Thanks,

Dufus.

 
Raider Nation said:
Now that was a great episode! Plenty of Harrow, plenty of Al, plenty of boobs.

No Margaret or the children. COINCIDENCE???

:thumbup:

Anyone recognize the barkeep in the opening scene? He was the gas station owner whom Anton Chigurh ordered to call heads or tails.
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Did anyone recognize Ron Livingston as the guy played by Ron Livingston?

 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Raider Nation said:
Now that was a great episode! Plenty of Harrow, plenty of Al, plenty of boobs.

No Margaret or the children. COINCIDENCE???

:thumbup:

Anyone recognize the barkeep in the opening scene? He was the gas station owner whom Anton Chigurh ordered to call heads or tails.
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Did anyone recognize Ron Livingston as the guy played by Ron Livingston?
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Is he going to be a regular? Good actor and good addition if he stays.Anyone notice the new tough guy in Capone's crew is Herk from the Wire?

 
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Billy Bats said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Raider Nation said:
Now that was a great episode! Plenty of Harrow, plenty of Al, plenty of boobs.

No Margaret or the children. COINCIDENCE???

:thumbup:

Anyone recognize the barkeep in the opening scene? He was the gas station owner whom Anton Chigurh ordered to call heads or tails.
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Did anyone recognize Ron Livingston as the guy played by Ron Livingston?
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Anyone notice the new tough guy in Capone's crew is Herk from the Wire?
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Definitely not in post #2467

 
Raider Nation said:
Now that was a great episode! Plenty of Harrow, plenty of Al, plenty of boobs.

No Margaret or the children. COINCIDENCE???

:thumbup:

Anyone recognize the barkeep in the opening scene? He was the gas station owner whom Anton Chigurh ordered to call heads or tails.
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I had beefs with last season, but that was a very strong season opener.

 
What is going on with Richard and the mortgage company owner? He was hired to kill the owner of a mortgage company that incidentally held the title on his sister's home? He decides not to kill the guy only to have another hitmen go there and kill him?

 
I love that Harrow went around capping people in cold, emotionless fashion, but then he couldn't put his best friend down.

:cry:

I get it.

 
Billy Bats said:
Daywalker said:
What is going on with Richard and the mortgage company owner? He was hired to kill the owner of a mortgage company that incidentally held the title on his sister's home? He decides not to kill the guy only to have another hitmen go there and kill him?
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Yes.
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Richard left the book on that guys table. During the struggle it fell and the tax bill also fell out and was accidentally left at the scene. The company didn't randomly have anything to do with the sisters house.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Billy Bats said:
Daywalker said:
What is going on with Richard and the mortgage company owner? He was hired to kill the owner of a mortgage company that incidentally held the title on his sister's home? He decides not to kill the guy only to have another hitmen go there and kill him?
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Yes.
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Richard left the book on that guys table. During the struggle it fell and the tax bill also fell out and was accidentally left at the scene. The company didn't randomly have anything to do with the sisters house.
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Oh wow, good pickup I didnt notice that.

 
Haven't seen last night's episode, but I've had kind of a meh feeling about the first couple episodes. I don't think it's bad (no Margaret talking about THE CHILDREN helps), just dry so far.

 
Brady Marino said:
Haven't seen last night's episode, but I've had kind of a meh feeling about the first couple episodes. I don't think it's bad (no Margaret talking about THE CHILDREN helps), just dry so far.
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This. But I finally feel like it's all heading somewhere again. Not just some dumb straw-man whop fumbling around terrorizing everyone for no good reason.

Gyp won a Emmy for that role yesterday. Not sure I'm in favor of that, no so much for the acting but the role.

 
The Ref said:
Brady Marino said:
Haven't seen last night's episode, but I've had kind of a meh feeling about the first couple episodes. I don't think it's bad (no Margaret talking about THE CHILDREN helps), just dry so far.
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This. But I finally feel like it's all heading somewhere again. Not just some dumb straw-man whop fumbling around terrorizing everyone for no good reason.

Gyp won a Emmy for that role yesterday. Not sure I'm in favor of that, no so much for the acting but the role.
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Emmy was a travesty IMO.

The Dr. isn't just another straw-man? He hates white people. Cool.

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
The Ref said:
Brady Marino said:
Haven't seen last night's episode, but I've had kind of a meh feeling about the first couple episodes. I don't think it's bad (no Margaret talking about THE CHILDREN helps), just dry so far.
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This. But I finally feel like it's all heading somewhere again. Not just some dumb straw-man whop fumbling around terrorizing everyone for no good reason.

Gyp won a Emmy for that role yesterday. Not sure I'm in favor of that, no so much for the acting but the role.
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Emmy was a travesty IMO.

The Dr. isn't just another straw-man? He hates white people. Cool.
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Lets see how it goes. He could hit cartoon character status by the this season is over no doubt... but so far it's more serious then gratuitous and I kind of like where it's headed. Additionally all the other characters are off doing different things and aren't at the mercy of the 1920's version of the jersey shore.

 
Not a fan of the doctor character so far.

Jack Huston should be winning awards for his Harrow performances.

In general it seems like this show is losing its mojo.

 
NIU Kicker said:
Gr00vus said:
Michael Brown said:
Getting more Chalky and Harrow this season sounded like a home run. Chalky and Harrow turning from badasses to softies hasn't helped.
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:goodposting: Seems like events are conspiring to force them back into badass mode though.
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Right. It also seems like van Alden is going to get pulled back in.
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He's already in - just a question of when he's on team Capone full time.

Be interesting to see where Harrow drifts next - Chicago/Cisero, D.C., N.Y., Atlantic City, Florida? I hope it's Chicago/Cisero so they can do a VanAlden/Harrow buddy show spin off - imagine the riveting dialog between those two.

 
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Gr00vus said:
NIU Kicker said:
Gr00vus said:
Michael Brown said:
Getting more Chalky and Harrow this season sounded like a home run. Chalky and Harrow turning from badasses to softies hasn't helped.
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:goodposting: Seems like events are conspiring to force them back into badass mode though.
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Right. It also seems like van Alden is going to get pulled back in.
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He's already in - just a question of when he's on team Capone full time.

Be interesting to see where Harrow drifts next - Chicago/Cisero, D.C., N.Y., Atlantic City, Florida? I hope it's Chicago/Cisero so they can do a VanAlden/Harrow buddy show spin off - imagine the riveting dialog between those two.
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"Hmm"

 
I can't see why some of you guys still have a thing for Gretchen Mol. She looked really OLD in the last episode.

40 years old and not at all hot imo.

 
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