***OFFICIAL*** Boardwalk Empire thread (2 Viewers)

[Ilov80s]

Odd that Chalky controls his neighborhood but seemingly has no crew. He's got the singer chick and Harrow, who he barely knows, as his backup. Chalky leaving his own town and family doesn't make sense either. Last season Chalky is protecting Nucky from Gyp's crew now he is running for his life from the doctor? Sloppy.

I think they tried to show that Chalky's interest in the club and the singer have allowed the Dr. to move in and wrestle away much of Chalky's control on the city. They did not do a great job showing that, but they have definitely hinted at him slipping this year.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

Great episode, but hated how Chalky stopped shooting before their target wad confirmed dead and the fact they walked back without looking over their shoulders. Also anyone who thought chalky was dying today has lost his marbles, only way chalky dies is if another major player takes him out, not some low level punk.

ridiculously unbelievable. if you're gonna take 10 guys and open up in the middle of the street with dozens of witnesses around, you're at least gonna go in for the killshot.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Agree with the last several posts. The whole season makes little sense.

 

[biggamer3]

Agree with the last several posts. The whole season makes little sense.

Do not agree with you about the season making no sense. I actually really love this season and this show is really the only must watch TV show left these days. There are some plot contrivances that I didnt particularly buy like the Chalky shootout from this past episode but for the most part this season has been fantastic and its drawing to an amazing final 3 episodes. We have really interesting stuff going on in Chicago and Van Alden finally being used in the perfect way, we have Nucky v. Luciano/Myer/The Italian Boss who's name is slipping me. The Hoover situation, we have Rothstein trying to regain his empire. Almost no boring scenes any more since Margaret hasnt been around much this season.

I think this show is positioning itself so well that I can see many more seasons coming up since the material is only starting to be tapped into.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Funny that Narcisse happens to manage talent AND be involved with the heroin trade, intersecting twice with Atlantic City.

And if the guy's got at least two major business concerns centering in Harlem -- along with all of the Libyans/one-act play nonsense -- what on Earth is he doing hanging around in Atlantic City?

Besides that, I think there was an interesting opportunity to have a black separatist character who comes into conflict with Nucky, who's obviously a little more rough around the edges. But in the end, he's just another gangster. And the chances of him getting capped at the end of the year are 95+%.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Funny that Narcisse happens to manage talent AND be involved with the heroin trade, intersecting twice with Atlantic City.

And if the guy's got at least two major business concerns centering in Harlem -- along with all of the Libyans/one-act play nonsense -- what on Earth is he doing hanging around in Atlantic City?

Besides that, I think there was an interesting opportunity to have a black separatist character who comes into conflict with Nucky, who's obviously a little more rough around the edges. But in the end, he's just another gangster. And the chances of him getting capped at the end of the year are 95+%.

I hope you're right... Chalky is a cornerstone in the show - I think that relationship with Harrow plays a factor in the last 2 episodes.

I'm convinced we are losing some key characters in the next two episodes, my original guess is that Nuck kills Eli for snitching.

So far we've almost lost Chalky in two straight episodes, if he survives this next episode I say he survives the season and Narcisse goes in the finale.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

The best part of this show is anything involving Capone

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Funny that Narcisse happens to manage talent AND be involved with the heroin trade, intersecting twice with Atlantic City.

And if the guy's got at least two major business concerns centering in Harlem -- along with all of the Libyans/one-act play nonsense -- what on Earth is he doing hanging around in Atlantic City?

Besides that, I think there was an interesting opportunity to have a black separatist character who comes into conflict with Nucky, who's obviously a little more rough around the edges. But in the end, he's just another gangster. And the chances of him getting capped at the end of the year are 95+%.

Yea, why is he even in AC really this whole time? It just seems too contrived, as does much of the season save for Chicago really.

 

[LittleLarry]

I'm sure some federal agents were corrupt in this era such as Agent Tolliver. However for a fed to openly execute a guy in front of dozens of witnesses seems ridiculous.

I don't like the character and I don't like the guy playing him.

 

[biggamer3]

I'm sure some federal agents were corrupt in this era such as Agent Tolliver. However for a fed to openly execute a guy in front of dozens of witnesses seems ridiculous.

I don't like the character and I don't like the guy playing him.

I think the guy playing him is fine, the character is supposed to be someone we as fans root against. We saw Van Alden also murder someone in front of witnesses when he was a Fed. Maybe they were really like the gangsters they were chasing back then, the people had no idea how much or little power the federal gov had back then.

 

[Daywalker]

I'm sure some federal agents were corrupt in this era such as Agent Tolliver. However for a fed to openly execute a guy in front of dozens of witnesses seems ridiculous.

I don't like the character and I don't like the guy playing him.

I think the guy playing him is fine, the character is supposed to be someone we as fans root against. We saw Van Alden also murder someone in front of witnesses when he was a Fed. Maybe they were really like the gangsters they were chasing back then, the people had no idea how much or little power the federal gov had back then.

A pistol whip to the face would have had the same effect and not caused anyone say it was ridiculous.

 

[Daywalker]

Funny that Narcisse happens to manage talent AND be involved with the heroin trade, intersecting twice with Atlantic City.

And if the guy's got at least two major business concerns centering in Harlem -- along with all of the Libyans/one-act play nonsense -- what on Earth is he doing hanging around in Atlantic City?

Besides that, I think there was an interesting opportunity to have a black separatist character who comes into conflict with Nucky, who's obviously a little more rough around the edges. But in the end, he's just another gangster. And the chances of him getting capped at the end of the year are 95+%.

Yea, why is he even in AC really this whole time? It just seems too contrived, as does much of the season save for Chicago really.

I think Narcisse is trying to expand his heroin trade in to AC. Makes sense. Chalky on the run doesn't. All they had to do was portray Narcisse gaining influence/power in the community and it would have made sense. They haven't done that. Narcisse doesn't appear to be well liked in the community. He should have no ground to stand on.

 

[The Ref]

I really appreciate this season. As I've said a bunch of times I like it a whole lot more then the dog ship that was last season. That said - I'm ready to throw the towel in on the good doctor. Not a fan on how thats all playing out.

 

[Gr00vus]

Seems pretty obvious that they'll be giving Dr. Lybia (alive or dead) over to Tolliver to get rid of both of them. The only exposition left there is how Nucky finds out Eli is a pseudo-rat and Tolliver isn't the simpleton he'd been portraying himself as. Probably involves Eli's son somehow.

Not a good season, for many reasons mentioned in previous posts.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

The best part of this show is anything involving Capone

in addition to being the most interesting storyline (to me), I think the guy playing Capone is giving the best performance on the show.

also, I really enjoyed the scene between Nucky & Narcisse with neither man backing down. that was awesome. I almost expected either one of them to pull a pistol.

 

[Raider Nation]

Narcisse just needs to be a little more uppity. Then you will all like him.

 

[gump]

I was a bit confused about the O'Banion hit. Did Van Alden arrange it? Why not shoot him, himself?

They kept the O'Banion hit somewhat historically accurate and just worked the Van Alden storyline around it.

On November 3, 1924, Dean O'Banion inadvertently signed his own death warrant during an argumentative phone call to arch-rival Angelo Genna. Their disagreement originated at "The Ship", the gambling casino that the North Side gang boss owned along with the Torrio Syndicate. On this day, O'Banion sat in with Al Capone, Frank Nitti, Frank Rio, and others to tally the week's profits. It was mentioned that Angelo Genna had dropped a large amount of cash, plus a sizable marker. Capone recommended that they cancel the marker as a professional courtesy. O'Banion, instead, got Genna on the telephone and demanded that he pay his debt within a week. With this personal insult, Angelo Genna and his family could no longer be restrained.[3] Heretofore, Mike Merlo and the Unione Siciliana had refused to sanction a hit on O'Banion. However, Merlo had terminal cancer and died on November 8, 1924. With Merlo gone, the Gennas and South Siders were free to move on O'Banion.

Using the Merlo funeral as a cover story, over the next few days Brooklyn gangster Frankie Yale and others visited Schofield's, O'Banion's flower shop, to discuss floral arrangements. However, the real purpose of these visits was to memorize the store layout for the hit on O'Banion.

On the morning of November 10, 1924, O'Banion was clipping chrysanthemums in Schofield's back room. Yale entered the shop with Genna gunmen John Scalise and Albert Anselmi. When O'Banion and Yale shook hands, Yale grasped O'Banion's hand in a tight grip. At the same time, Scalise and Anselmi stepped aside and fired two bullets into O'Banion's chest and two into his throat. One of the killers fired a final shot into the back of his head as he lay face down on the floor.

Frankie Yale is also the guy who killed Torrio's former boss Big Jim Colosimo in the series premier...in his restaurant while he listened to opera.

 

[(HULK)]

I love the Libyan schtick personally.

 

[Gr00vus]

I love the Libyan schtick personally.

Did people really talk that way? I'd have figured Nubian at least before Libyan.

 

[The Ref]

I love the Libyan schtick personally.

Did people really talk that way? I'd have figured Nubian at least before Libyan.

Frankly I'm suprised we haven't got a Libyan alias yet.

 

[(HULK)]

I love the Libyan schtick personally.

Did people really talk that way? I'd have figured Nubian at least before Libyan.

Frankly I'm suprised we haven't got a Libyan alias yet.

I want to see Dr. N and the guy Milton from Office Space plays have an hour long conversation.

 

[Brady Marino]

I love the Libyan schtick personally.

Did people really talk that way? I'd have figured Nubian at least before Libyan.

Frankly I'm suprised we haven't got a Libyan alias yet.

This is a disgrace to all Libyans.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

anything else think Rothstein might tap Margaret?

 

[Ilov80s]

anything else think Rothstein might tap Margaret?

Sex doesn't seem like his thing. I have to think he wants to use her to make money and get over on Nucky somehow.

 

[fantasycurse42]

anything else think Rothstein might tap Margaret?

Sex doesn't seem like his thing. I have to think he wants to use her to make money and get over on Nucky somehow.

I agree.

The scene where he asks Nuck about killing Mickey Doyle for the life insurance had me laughing.

 

[Brady Marino]

anything else think Rothstein might tap Margaret?

Sex doesn't seem like his thing. I have to think he wants to use her to make money and get over on Nucky somehow.

I agree.

The scene where he asks Nuck about killing Mickey Doyle for the life insurance had me laughing.

That had me too.

And a Rothstein/Margaret partnership quickly makes me interested in Margaret for the first time since her mick husband beat her and forced her to miscarry.

 

[gump]

also, I really enjoyed the scene between Nucky & Narcisse with neither man backing down. that was awesome. I almost expected either one of them to pull a pistol.

Me too...I think Nucky may be dead if he didn't act like a whole gangster.

 

[Raider Nation]

anything else think Rothstein might tap Margaret?

I want to punch myself in the face but I find her to be quite fetching sometimes.

Looks like she would be good at

 

[Balco]

The actor who plays Tolliver looked so familiar to me. It finally figured it out, and later confirmed with IMDB, he played the pastry worker that Christopher shot in the foot in Sopranos.

This season has been fantastic. I actually think Capone's constant nose sniffing has been a little over the top. We get it, he is using a lot of cocaine.

I got the feeling Chalkys daughter was going to go the way of Sofia Coppola in Godfather 3. Narcisse is 10 times the better character than Gyp Rosetti.

 

[Raider Nation]

The actor who plays Tolliver looked so familiar to me. It finally figured it out, and later confirmed with IMDB, he played the pastry worker that Christopher shot in the foot in Sopranos.

Oh damn, great catch!

"So I can go #### your sister, come back in an hour and I go right to the front of the line?"

That scene was also our first look at Geno/Vito.

 

[Brady Marino]

The actor who plays Tolliver looked so familiar to me. It finally figured it out, and later confirmed with IMDB, he played the pastry worker that Christopher shot in the foot in Sopranos.

(edit: dammit RaiderNation)

Interesting that Michael Imperioli plays a young patsy that gets shot in the foot, then repays the favor to the pastry guy by shooting him in the foot in a different show. Now, pastry chef is a badass in a different show, and if he doesn't shoot someone in the foot this season, then this whole season is a waste.

 

[Balco]

The actor who plays Tolliver looked so familiar to me. It finally figured it out, and later confirmed with IMDB, he played the pastry worker that Christopher shot in the foot in Sopranos.

Oh damn, great catch!

"So I can go #### your sister, come back in an hour and I go right to the front of the line?"

That scene was also our first look at Geno/Vito.

I am somewhat embarrassed that I recognized him for that bit part. It know way too much about the Sopranos. I remember Vito in that episode. He was fine with letting Christopher go in front of him.

 

[Brady Marino]

The actor who plays Tolliver looked so familiar to me. It finally figured it out, and later confirmed with IMDB, he played the pastry worker that Christopher shot in the foot in Sopranos.

Oh damn, great catch!

"So I can go #### your sister, come back in an hour and I go right to the front of the line?"

That scene was also our first look at Geno/Vito.

I am somewhat embarrassed that I recognized him for that bit part. It know way too much about the Sopranos. I remember Vito in that episode. He was fine with letting Christopher go in front of him.

Of course he was. He was a homo.

 

[Raider Nation]

Did I actually get a Sopranos quote wrong? I'm slipping.

 

[Balco]

The actor who plays Tolliver looked so familiar to me. It finally figured it out, and later confirmed with IMDB, he played the pastry worker that Christopher shot in the foot in Sopranos.

(edit: dammit RaiderNation)

Interesting that Michael Imperioli plays a young patsy that gets shot in the foot, then repays the favor to the pastry guy by shooting him in the foot in a different show. Now, pastry chef is a badass in a different show, and if he doesn't shoot someone in the foot this season, then this whole season is a waste.

My guess is J Edgar takes a bullet to his pinky toe.

 

[Raider Nation]

The actor who plays Tolliver looked so familiar to me. It finally figured it out, and later confirmed with IMDB, he played the pastry worker that Christopher shot in the foot in Sopranos.

Oh damn, great catch!

"So I can go #### your sister, come back in an hour and I go right to the front of the line?"

That scene was also our first look at Geno/Vito.

I am somewhat embarrassed that I recognized him for that bit part. It know way too much about the Sopranos. I remember Vito in that episode. He was fine with letting Christopher go in front of him.

Of course he was. He was a homo.

Not at that point. Joe Gannascoli played "Geno" there.... they later brought him back as Vito.

 

[Brady Marino]

Did I actually get a Sopranos quote wrong? I'm slipping.

I just rewatched the scene 5 seconds before posting.

 

[Brady Marino]

The actor who plays Tolliver looked so familiar to me. It finally figured it out, and later confirmed with IMDB, he played the pastry worker that Christopher shot in the foot in Sopranos.

Oh damn, great catch!

"So I can go #### your sister, come back in an hour and I go right to the front of the line?"

That scene was also our first look at Geno/Vito.

I am somewhat embarrassed that I recognized him for that bit part. It know way too much about the Sopranos. I remember Vito in that episode. He was fine with letting Christopher go in front of him.

Of course he was. He was a homo.

Not at that point. Joe Gannascoli played "Geno" there.... they later brought him back as Vito.

The whole plotline of the Sopranos movie would be Vito's twin brother Geno getting revenge.

 

[Balco]

The actor who plays Tolliver looked so familiar to me. It finally figured it out, and later confirmed with IMDB, he played the pastry worker that Christopher shot in the foot in Sopranos.

Oh damn, great catch!

"So I can go #### your sister, come back in an hour and I go right to the front of the line?"

That scene was also our first look at Geno/Vito.

I am somewhat embarrassed that I recognized him for that bit part. It know way too much about the Sopranos. I remember Vito in that episode. He was fine with letting Christopher go in front of him.

Of course he was. He was a homo.

Not at that point. Joe Gannascoli played "Geno" there.... they later brought him back as Vito.

The whole plotline of the Sopranos movie would be Vito's twin brother Geno getting revenge.

Maybe teaming up with Patsy Parisi?

 

[Brady Marino]

The actor who plays Tolliver looked so familiar to me. It finally figured it out, and later confirmed with IMDB, he played the pastry worker that Christopher shot in the foot in Sopranos.

Oh damn, great catch!

"So I can go #### your sister, come back in an hour and I go right to the front of the line?"

That scene was also our first look at Geno/Vito.

I am somewhat embarrassed that I recognized him for that bit part. It know way too much about the Sopranos. I remember Vito in that episode. He was fine with letting Christopher go in front of him.

Of course he was. He was a homo.

Not at that point. Joe Gannascoli played "Geno" there.... they later brought him back as Vito.

The whole plotline of the Sopranos movie would be Vito's twin brother Geno getting revenge.

Maybe teaming up with Patsy Parisi?

And Meadow Soprano, finally getting revenge for Jackie Junior and seeing a chance to become Mob Queen.

 

[belljr]

we are marshall, hurt locker down?

 

[Billy Bats]

Funny that Narcisse happens to manage talent AND be involved with the heroin trade, intersecting twice with Atlantic City.

And if the guy's got at least two major business concerns centering in Harlem -- along with all of the Libyans/one-act play nonsense -- what on Earth is he doing hanging around in Atlantic City?

Besides that, I think there was an interesting opportunity to have a black separatist character who comes into conflict with Nucky, who's obviously a little more rough around the edges. But in the end, he's just another gangster. And the chances of him getting capped at the end of the year are 95+%.

Yea, why is he even in AC really this whole time? It just seems too contrived, as does much of the season save for Chicago really.

I think Narcisse is trying to expand his heroin trade in to AC. Makes sense. Chalky on the run doesn't. All they had to do was portray Narcisse gaining influence/power in the community and it would have made sense. They haven't done that. Narcisse doesn't appear to be well liked in the community. He should have no ground to stand on.

I thought they accomplished that when Pernsley filled in for Chalky at the "town" meeting with the neighbors screaming for Chalky. And I maybe making this up, but didn't Narcisse oversee one of those meetings as well?

On a separate note, why didn't Meyer make a big deal out of Eli busting him with a fed?? Did I miss something there?

 

[BigTex]

No disrespect but can we not screw up this thread with Soprano talk..............can we stay on point.

 

[Brady Marino]

No disrespect but can we not screw up this thread with Soprano talk..............can we stay on point.

Oh!

 

[gump]

On a separate note, why didn't Meyer make a big deal out of Eli busting him with a fed?? Did I miss something there?

Meyer, Nucky, and everyone other than Eli think that Knox is just a Prohibition Agent under Nucky's wing.

 

[Brady Marino]

PINKERTONS!!!

And ding dong, the wicked Gillian is gone!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I missed Al this week

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

PINKERTONS!!!

And ding dong, the wicked Gillian is gone!

Yes, we needed this whole season to get rid of her.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

PINKERTONS!!!

And ding dong, the wicked Gillian is gone!

They played the long con like champions.

 

[Raider Nation]

Love this show.