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***OFFICIAL*** Boardwalk Empire thread (3 Viewers)

'Sconch said:
'Raider Nation said:
'Sconch said:
'The Noid said:
This was the first episode I actually got a good, long look at Lucy's face. :X It probably had something to do with the fact that this was the most screen time with clothes on she has had in two seasons.
Yeah, she's got a face like 40 miles of bad road.
Beautiful mouth though. No shtick.
Too bad that's the same mouth she uses when she whines/talks.
The trick, sir, is to keep her mouth full. Win-Win. :thumbup:
 
He lies about the book he's reading, recognizing that Purnsley likely can't read or tell the difference between "Mark Twain" and "David Copperfield," ...

After Chalky's friends have taken care of the Dunn Purnsley problem, Chalky invites one of the men to entertain him and the rest of the cell with a reading from "David Copperfield," .
I guess that explanation makes sense, but I took it as Chalky couldn't read either.
Yeah that was a little ambiguous. I took it that Chalky "didn't know his letters" either.
Interesting! This never occurred to me :bag:
Neither did I on the first viewing. I thought Chalky was just messing with the guy because that guy was illiterate. Upon second viewing though, I think Chalky def doesn't know his letters.
I didn't re-watch the episode (only Breaking Bad gets that treatment these days!) - but I didn't think this initially. My initial reaction was that there was some symbolic meaning here - it's been a REAL long time before I read (or rather, read the Cliffs Notes) for either of these books, but Mark Twain had the whole "getting other people to do your work" thing and David Copperfield was all about "people getting what they deserve". And for what it's worth, I brought up the possibility to my wife (who usually is pretty keen with these things) and her reaction was also that he was just ####### with him, not that he couldn't actually read.

 
Just got your PM requesting Sepinwall's review. Here it is.

"But just as Nucky's tough talk wasn't enough to intimidate Eli last week, it doesn't seem to have moved Jimmy an inch - if anything, as with the Eli phone call, Nucky winds up only driving the wedge between them deeper by speaking so bluntly (and, to Jimmy's mind, disrespectfully) about Gillian. That Jimmy is now blaming the pimp while leaving the john blameless, and that so much of this vendetta is driven by Gillian, who has an uncomfortably close relationship with her son, suggests he's going to be very hard to pin down and sway. Right now, though, he's firmly against Nucky, not wanting to kill him - as he tells Capone, he and the Commodore are trying for a political coup where they take over both the legal and illegal parts of Nucky's machine, part by part - but very much wanting to make him pay for what he perceives as betrayals of both his mother and himself. But when he comes home to Angela, he seems lost. He's married to a woman he doesn't quite love (and vice versa), can probably tell that he's being used by the Commodore (even if he wants his father to want to use him, you know) is furious with Nucky and yet on some level still craves his approval and respect (which Nucky isn't giving him under these circumstances) and is mainly just mad at the world
Why is Gillian driving this vendetta? Is she bitter also about the way Nucky sold her to the Commodore? I thought Gillian and Nucky got along well in Season 1.I think Jimmy is definitely 'moving an inch' also...he sees that the Commodore is not as smooth as Nucky.

 
He lies about the book he's reading, recognizing that Purnsley likely can't read or tell the difference between "Mark Twain" and "David Copperfield," ...

After Chalky's friends have taken care of the Dunn Purnsley problem, Chalky invites one of the men to entertain him and the rest of the cell with a reading from "David Copperfield," .
I guess that explanation makes sense, but I took it as Chalky couldn't read either.
Yeah that was a little ambiguous. I took it that Chalky "didn't know his letters" either.
Interesting! This never occurred to me :bag:
Neither did I on the first viewing. I thought Chalky was just messing with the guy because that guy was illiterate. Upon second viewing though, I think Chalky def doesn't know his letters.
I didn't re-watch the episode (only Breaking Bad gets that treatment these days!) - but I didn't think this initially. My initial reaction was that there was some symbolic meaning here - it's been a REAL long time before I read (or rather, read the Cliffs Notes) for either of these books, but Mark Twain had the whole "getting other people to do your work" thing and David Copperfield was all about "people getting what they deserve". And for what it's worth, I brought up the possibility to my wife (who usually is pretty keen with these things) and her reaction was also that he was just ####### with him, not that he couldn't actually read.
Question: why would Chalky's wife bring him a book if he couldn't read?
 
He lies about the book he's reading, recognizing that Purnsley likely can't read or tell the difference between "Mark Twain" and "David Copperfield," ...

After Chalky's friends have taken care of the Dunn Purnsley problem, Chalky invites one of the men to entertain him and the rest of the cell with a reading from "David Copperfield," .
I guess that explanation makes sense, but I took it as Chalky couldn't read either.
Yeah that was a little ambiguous. I took it that Chalky "didn't know his letters" either.
Interesting! This never occurred to me :bag:
Neither did I on the first viewing. I thought Chalky was just messing with the guy because that guy was illiterate. Upon second viewing though, I think Chalky def doesn't know his letters.
I didn't re-watch the episode (only Breaking Bad gets that treatment these days!) - but I didn't think this initially. My initial reaction was that there was some symbolic meaning here - it's been a REAL long time before I read (or rather, read the Cliffs Notes) for either of these books, but Mark Twain had the whole "getting other people to do your work" thing and David Copperfield was all about "people getting what they deserve". And for what it's worth, I brought up the possibility to my wife (who usually is pretty keen with these things) and her reaction was also that he was just ####### with him, not that he couldn't actually read.
Question: why would Chalky's wife bring him a book if he couldn't read?
Great question.
 
Whoa... great scene in the restaurant at the end!
That was dope. I am looking forward to Nucky's revenge. Love the new Irish strongman, too.
this show has the tendency to get very sleepy to me, but the last episode was like a smack to the face. the restaurant confrontation, the tension between Lucky/Meyer and Rothstein, and the showdown between Owen and Harrow all have exciting possibilities. I can't wait to see where things go now.
 
He lies about the book he's reading, recognizing that Purnsley likely can't read or tell the difference between "Mark Twain" and "David Copperfield," ...

After Chalky's friends have taken care of the Dunn Purnsley problem, Chalky invites one of the men to entertain him and the rest of the cell with a reading from "David Copperfield," .
I guess that explanation makes sense, but I took it as Chalky couldn't read either.
Yeah that was a little ambiguous. I took it that Chalky "didn't know his letters" either.
Interesting! This never occurred to me :bag:
Neither did I on the first viewing. I thought Chalky was just messing with the guy because that guy was illiterate. Upon second viewing though, I think Chalky def doesn't know his letters.
I didn't re-watch the episode (only Breaking Bad gets that treatment these days!) - but I didn't think this initially. My initial reaction was that there was some symbolic meaning here - it's been a REAL long time before I read (or rather, read the Cliffs Notes) for either of these books, but Mark Twain had the whole "getting other people to do your work" thing and David Copperfield was all about "people getting what they deserve". And for what it's worth, I brought up the possibility to my wife (who usually is pretty keen with these things) and her reaction was also that he was just ####### with him, not that he couldn't actually read.
Question: why would Chalky's wife bring him a book if he couldn't read?
Exactly. It never occurred to me for a second that he couldn't read until I read this thread.
 
He lies about the book he's reading, recognizing that Purnsley likely can't read or tell the difference between "Mark Twain" and "David Copperfield," ...

After Chalky's friends have taken care of the Dunn Purnsley problem, Chalky invites one of the men to entertain him and the rest of the cell with a reading from "David Copperfield," .
I guess that explanation makes sense, but I took it as Chalky couldn't read either.
Yeah that was a little ambiguous. I took it that Chalky "didn't know his letters" either.
Interesting! This never occurred to me :bag:
Neither did I on the first viewing. I thought Chalky was just messing with the guy because that guy was illiterate. Upon second viewing though, I think Chalky def doesn't know his letters.
I didn't re-watch the episode (only Breaking Bad gets that treatment these days!) - but I didn't think this initially. My initial reaction was that there was some symbolic meaning here - it's been a REAL long time before I read (or rather, read the Cliffs Notes) for either of these books, but Mark Twain had the whole "getting other people to do your work" thing and David Copperfield was all about "people getting what they deserve". And for what it's worth, I brought up the possibility to my wife (who usually is pretty keen with these things) and her reaction was also that he was just ####### with him, not that he couldn't actually read.
Question: why would Chalky's wife bring him a book if he couldn't read?
Exactly. It never occurred to me for a second that he couldn't read until I read this thread.
Not to mention that Chalky was halfway through reading the book in the cell. Why would he fake it?
 
He lies about the book he's reading, recognizing that Purnsley likely can't read or tell the difference between "Mark Twain" and "David Copperfield," ...

After Chalky's friends have taken care of the Dunn Purnsley problem, Chalky invites one of the men to entertain him and the rest of the cell with a reading from "David Copperfield," .
I guess that explanation makes sense, but I took it as Chalky couldn't read either.
Yeah that was a little ambiguous. I took it that Chalky "didn't know his letters" either.
Interesting! This never occurred to me :bag:
Neither did I on the first viewing. I thought Chalky was just messing with the guy because that guy was illiterate. Upon second viewing though, I think Chalky def doesn't know his letters.
I didn't re-watch the episode (only Breaking Bad gets that treatment these days!) - but I didn't think this initially. My initial reaction was that there was some symbolic meaning here - it's been a REAL long time before I read (or rather, read the Cliffs Notes) for either of these books, but Mark Twain had the whole "getting other people to do your work" thing and David Copperfield was all about "people getting what they deserve". And for what it's worth, I brought up the possibility to my wife (who usually is pretty keen with these things) and her reaction was also that he was just ####### with him, not that he couldn't actually read.
Question: why would Chalky's wife bring him a book if he couldn't read?
Great question.
Well, she said her son wanted him to have it. They stressed in an earlier episode that the son was going to college and he obviously is trained in some fine arts as he plays the piano. So Chalky and the wife stress education perhaps because of Chalky's lack of one (and an opportunity for one). Maybe the son doesn't know his father's shortcomings or perhaps the son has been teaching Chalky how to read.
 
He lies about the book he's reading, recognizing that Purnsley likely can't read or tell the difference between "Mark Twain" and "David Copperfield," ...

After Chalky's friends have taken care of the Dunn Purnsley problem, Chalky invites one of the men to entertain him and the rest of the cell with a reading from "David Copperfield," .
I guess that explanation makes sense, but I took it as Chalky couldn't read either.
Yeah that was a little ambiguous. I took it that Chalky "didn't know his letters" either.
Interesting! This never occurred to me :bag:
Neither did I on the first viewing. I thought Chalky was just messing with the guy because that guy was illiterate. Upon second viewing though, I think Chalky def doesn't know his letters.
I didn't re-watch the episode (only Breaking Bad gets that treatment these days!) - but I didn't think this initially. My initial reaction was that there was some symbolic meaning here - it's been a REAL long time before I read (or rather, read the Cliffs Notes) for either of these books, but Mark Twain had the whole "getting other people to do your work" thing and David Copperfield was all about "people getting what they deserve". And for what it's worth, I brought up the possibility to my wife (who usually is pretty keen with these things) and her reaction was also that he was just ####### with him, not that he couldn't actually read.
Question: why would Chalky's wife bring him a book if he couldn't read?
Exactly. It never occurred to me for a second that he couldn't read until I read this thread.
same here, but when you re-watch it you can see it. Although I am not 100% convinced.
 
He lies about the book he's reading, recognizing that Purnsley likely can't read or tell the difference between "Mark Twain" and "David Copperfield," ...

After Chalky's friends have taken care of the Dunn Purnsley problem, Chalky invites one of the men to entertain him and the rest of the cell with a reading from "David Copperfield," .
I guess that explanation makes sense, but I took it as Chalky couldn't read either.
Yeah that was a little ambiguous. I took it that Chalky "didn't know his letters" either.
Interesting! This never occurred to me :bag:
Neither did I on the first viewing. I thought Chalky was just messing with the guy because that guy was illiterate. Upon second viewing though, I think Chalky def doesn't know his letters.
I didn't re-watch the episode (only Breaking Bad gets that treatment these days!) - but I didn't think this initially. My initial reaction was that there was some symbolic meaning here - it's been a REAL long time before I read (or rather, read the Cliffs Notes) for either of these books, but Mark Twain had the whole "getting other people to do your work" thing and David Copperfield was all about "people getting what they deserve". And for what it's worth, I brought up the possibility to my wife (who usually is pretty keen with these things) and her reaction was also that he was just ####### with him, not that he couldn't actually read.
Question: why would Chalky's wife bring him a book if he couldn't read?
Great question.
Well, she said her son wanted him to have it. They stressed in an earlier episode that the son was going to college and he obviously is trained in some fine arts as he plays the piano. So Chalky and the wife stress education perhaps because of Chalky's lack of one (and an opportunity for one). Maybe the son doesn't know his father's shortcomings or perhaps the son has been teaching Chalky how to read.
:goodposting: The fact that he was half way through the book in what seemed to be a very short period of time was more evidence to me that he couldn't read - I think he was just thumbing through looking at the pictures.

 
Whoa... great scene in the restaurant at the end!
That was dope. I am looking forward to Nucky's revenge. Love the new Irish strongman, too.
this show has the tendency to get very sleepy to me, but the last episode was like a smack to the face. the restaurant confrontation, the tension between Lucky/Meyer and Rothstein, and the showdown between Owen and Harrow all have exciting possibilities. I can't wait to see where things go now.
Certainly. One of the most exciting BE episodes by a long shot.
 
I actually thought it was clear that he couldn't read. Maybe even his wife doesn't know it. Not like men of that generation were much into sharing their thoughts and fears. I thought he was using the book to avoid having to interact with anyone else, all the while listening in to what was going on around him. He's probably gotten by a lot further in life by doing more listening than talking.

He also was on the page with the pictures. Maybe he just likes the pictures.

Just what I was thinking as I watched. Didn't think differently until reading this thread.

 
Call me crazy, but I just haven't been able to get into season 2 as much as I was into season 1 (which I absolutely loved).

I think I might just not like TV anymore. :kicksrock:

 
Call me crazy, but I just haven't been able to get into season 2 as much as I was into season 1 (which I absolutely loved).I think I might just not like TV anymore. :kicksrock:
It took me a while to get into Season 1, probably like 4 or 5 episodes. I'm loving this season so far.
 
Call me crazy, but I just haven't been able to get into season 2 as much as I was into season 1 (which I absolutely loved).I think I might just not like TV anymore. :kicksrock:
There have been a few too many slow parts, but I think they're building to something.
 
He lies about the book he's reading, recognizing that Purnsley likely can't read or tell the difference between "Mark Twain" and "David Copperfield," ...

After Chalky's friends have taken care of the Dunn Purnsley problem, Chalky invites one of the men to entertain him and the rest of the cell with a reading from "David Copperfield," .
I guess that explanation makes sense, but I took it as Chalky couldn't read either.
Yeah that was a little ambiguous. I took it that Chalky "didn't know his letters" either.
Interesting! This never occurred to me :bag:
Neither did I on the first viewing. I thought Chalky was just messing with the guy because that guy was illiterate. Upon second viewing though, I think Chalky def doesn't know his letters.
I didn't re-watch the episode (only Breaking Bad gets that treatment these days!) - but I didn't think this initially. My initial reaction was that there was some symbolic meaning here - it's been a REAL long time before I read (or rather, read the Cliffs Notes) for either of these books, but Mark Twain had the whole "getting other people to do your work" thing and David Copperfield was all about "people getting what they deserve". And for what it's worth, I brought up the possibility to my wife (who usually is pretty keen with these things) and her reaction was also that he was just ####### with him, not that he couldn't actually read.
Question: why would Chalky's wife bring him a book if he couldn't read?
Great question.
His wife probably can't read. He probably doesn't want to admit to his wife that he can't read himself.
 
He lies about the book he's reading, recognizing that Purnsley likely can't read or tell the difference between "Mark Twain" and "David Copperfield," ...

After Chalky's friends have taken care of the Dunn Purnsley problem, Chalky invites one of the men to entertain him and the rest of the cell with a reading from "David Copperfield," .
I guess that explanation makes sense, but I took it as Chalky couldn't read either.
Yeah that was a little ambiguous. I took it that Chalky "didn't know his letters" either.
Interesting! This never occurred to me :bag:
Neither did I on the first viewing. I thought Chalky was just messing with the guy because that guy was illiterate. Upon second viewing though, I think Chalky def doesn't know his letters.
I didn't re-watch the episode (only Breaking Bad gets that treatment these days!) - but I didn't think this initially. My initial reaction was that there was some symbolic meaning here - it's been a REAL long time before I read (or rather, read the Cliffs Notes) for either of these books, but Mark Twain had the whole "getting other people to do your work" thing and David Copperfield was all about "people getting what they deserve". And for what it's worth, I brought up the possibility to my wife (who usually is pretty keen with these things) and her reaction was also that he was just ####### with him, not that he couldn't actually read.
Question: why would Chalky's wife bring him a book if he couldn't read?
Great question.
All about putting up appearances.
 
Oh and the first rule of Boardwalk Empire is that you do not screw with Jimmy and his trench knife.
How did they wind up meeting in the cemetery, church or garden? Did I miss something?
I think he was walking through Central Park. Could be wrong though.
They weren't supposed to meet. Jimmy had an idea that he would either be set up OR noticed how they looked at him when he cashed out. He was ready, by taking his knife out of his boot.
Ok, so they just happened on him by chance and were just going to rob him? Probably not an important plot point, I was just confused how that scene came about. The main point of it all, I guess, is that he's showing Myra that he can be trusted by knocking off those two.
I think they are getting the ball rolling on AR's death and look to be promoting a kind of theory of their own that involves their fictional character...Jimmy kills two of Masseria's men/ Masseria thinks that AR's making a play into his territory/ Masseria has AR whacked.
 
I think both the crux of season two and the reason as to why Nucky will win was summed up by Capone's response to Nucky in regards to alcohol competitors in Chicago "we kill them". This show is as much about Prohibition as it is about the change in organized crime in the country; from the good old boy, political criminals represented by The Commodore to the Mafia. Nucky's going to win, (besides the fact that if they are going to maintain a semblance of historical accuracy he has to win) because he's going to do what the Commodore doesn't understand the rules have changed.

 
Seppy:

• Meyer and Lucky have a young associate named Benny, who has a habit of acting/talking crazy. Any chance this isn't supposed to be the young Bugsy Siegel, played in various movies by the likes of Warren Beatty and Richard Grieco?
I was thinking the same thing and I'm pretty sure that's who it supposed to be. Siegel would be about 14 or 15 for the Boardwalk time-frame. He also earned the nickname "Bugsy" because of his out-of-the-blue crazy behavior.
FWIW....I'm pretty sure it was Moe Green.
 
When Nucky walked to the Commodore's table, am I the only one who thought he was gonna take the lobster from him and give it to Margaret?

:unsure:
No
:hifive: Though I must say I liked how it actually went down better. They have a knack for doing that.
In hindsight, it was probably stupid for us to expect that. As if she would want his half-eaten lobster.
Also true, but I was thinking more along the lines of him sending a message rather than his woman actually enjoying her meal. Turns out he got both on his own terms. It was interesting seeing how Nucky transitioned from looking totally run down to appearing vital again over the course of the episode.
Agreed to a point. I thought it was more of Nucky noticing that the Commodore had 2-3 servings of the lobster on his plate.
Am I the only one that is sick of Lucy? I don't care if she shows more fur than a battalion of ewoks I just can't stand her.
:goodposting:
Am I the only one that is sick of Lucy? I don't care if she shows more fur than a battalion of ewoks I just can't stand her.
:lol: That Cantor-Lucy scene was painful. Not a fan of how the Van Alden story line has gone since the pregnancy.

Among the "annoying" characters, I thought the Doyle scene was interesting. He's growing on me.
I think it was interesting to see Van Alden show some actual human emotion by buying the Victrola. That story-line could get better as the season goes on but Lucy is just hard to watch.
Said to my wife as we were watching "This character bores me. I can't wait for her scenes to be over"She even then said "Damn she's still on the show" when the delivery guy showed up with the Victrola

Did Sconch get whacked already? Jesus, you offend at record speed.
Aren't you a mod? You should know this.
 
'Thunderlips said:
Oh and the first rule of Boardwalk Empire is that you do not screw with Jimmy and his trench knife.
How did they wind up meeting in the cemetery, church or garden? Did I miss something?
I think he was walking through Central Park. Could be wrong though.
They weren't supposed to meet. Jimmy had an idea that he would either be set up OR noticed how they looked at him when he cashed out. He was ready, by taking his knife out of his boot.
Ok, so they just happened on him by chance and were just going to rob him? Probably not an important plot point, I was just confused how that scene came about. The main point of it all, I guess, is that he's showing Myra that he can be trusted by knocking off those two.
I think they are getting the ball rolling on AR's death and look to be promoting a kind of theory of their own that involves their fictional character...Jimmy kills two of Masseria's men/ Masseria thinks that AR's making a play into his territory/ Masseria has AR whacked.
Agreed, good thought. Especially since my thought about Myra trusting Jimmy for whacking them two proved pointless because they didn't even know they were dead.
 
Well, the Commodore's attempt at regaining control didn't last too long. A little disappointed, I thought that was going to e an awesome storyline with the struggle for power with Nucky.

 
Man I think it might have been kind of fun to live then. The whores seemed into it :mellow: :)

Jimmy's mom is so freaking hot...

 
Great episode all the way around.

The Richard Harrow character is getting even more compelling and captivating.

Chalky White at the dinner table was interesting if not a little confusing. I'm sure we'll get more on this whole thing later.

Gillian slapping the crap out of Lionel Richie was disturbing and yet pretty damn awesome.

Michael Stuhlbarg (Rothstein) could do a laxative commercial while wearing a big turd costume and still carry the scene.

And William Forsythe is a really cool addition as the Philly Jewish mobster/butcher. At least I think the character was Jewish. I really couldn't tell.

 
Chalky White at the dinner table was interesting if not a little confusing. I'm sure we'll get more on this whole thing later.
What confused you?
Why he's called "Chalky" when he's actually rather dark.Maybe "confusing" was the wrong word. I should have said "unexpected". At least he hadn't done anything before the dinner that would lead us to expect he would get all crunk and insulting.
 
Chalky White at the dinner table was interesting if not a little confusing. I'm sure we'll get more on this whole thing later.
What confused you?
Why he's called "Chalky" when he's actually rather dark.Maybe "confusing" was the wrong word. I should have said "unexpected". At least he hadn't done anything before the dinner that would lead us to expect he would get all crunk and insulting.
I forget the order of the events. Did Nucky already call him a boy? If so, pretty easy to understand how he was so angry his wife thought serving what he wanted was beneath their guest.
 
Chalky White at the dinner table was interesting if not a little confusing. I'm sure we'll get more on this whole thing later.
What confused you?
Why he's called "Chalky" when he's actually rather dark.Maybe "confusing" was the wrong word. I should have said "unexpected". At least he hadn't done anything before the dinner that would lead us to expect he would get all crunk and insulting.
I forget the order of the events. Did Nucky already call him a boy? If so, pretty easy to understand how he was so angry his wife thought serving what he wanted was beneath their guest.
Yeah, I think so. I understood his anger but it seemed like he sat down already drunk and pissed like he had made up his mind to be a jerk. :shrug:

 

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