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randall146 said:
So in Trump's introduction of Pence he said one of pence's qualifications was his record of job creation in Indiana. He said 187,000 jobs were recently created in Indiana, while the numbers he's seen from other states are always negative and show 40, 50, and even 60% decreases in employment. 

Anyone have any clue wtf he's talking about?  Cuz I know he doesn't. 
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Total employment grew 10% in Indiana. 6% in the US  as a whole. So, true to character, he took what should have been a positive and made a complete bull#### mess out of it.

 
Is this true? :lol:  


Pence’s pay-to-play problem



 by Viveca Novak on July 15, 2016 
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Indiana Gov. Mike Pence’s presence on the presidential ticket could make for fundraising headaches. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
When Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump chose Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his running mate, he dealt a potentially serious blow to his fundraising prospects, lawyers are saying.

Pence is a sitting governor. That means contributions to the ticket will be limited by the SEC’s 2010 pay to play rule, also known as Rule 206(4)-5 of the Investment Advisers Act of 1940, as amended. The rule prevents “SEC registered investment advisers” from contributing more than $250-$350 to state or local officials who could select the firm that would manage a state or local pension fund, or some part of it.

That means most hedge funds and private equity firms — their PACs, their executives, their fund managers and probably their investor relations staff — can’t give to the ticket. If they violate the rule, they face a two-year ban on managing Indiana’s pension money — or at least, on collecting management fees and a percentage of the profits they earn for the funds, which certainly takes all the fun out of it for firms.

The Indiana Public Retirement System had about $29.9 billion in assets under management at the end of 2015.

That was a big problem for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker‘s presidential fundraising, and for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie‘s, and it will be for Trump’s too.

“It will cause most of the major players on Wall Street and financial service firms to not contribute and will even prohibit soliciting funds for the campaign,” said Kenneth Gross, a partner at Skadden Arps and expert on campaign finance. “The implications to any such covered donor could be draconian.”

This rule doesn’t cover contributions to super PACs on its face, said Gross, but “most bankers have stayed away from doing that” because it invites the SEC, not just the FEC, to look at whether super PACs and candidates are coordinating. If the SEC determines that they are, it could invoke pay to play.

And while the FEC has been widely described as dysfunctional and toothless in its current iteration, the same is decidedly not true of the securities oversight agency.


 
W.T.H. was that intro?!

"You can't always get what you want" :lmao: , followed by 28 minutes of barking mad Trump rambling about Trump, then he walks off the stage when Pence gets to the podium?

On the plus side the bar for next week has been set so so low.  Downside is that there's still no evidence they'll be able to clear it in Prime Time.

 
sho nuff said:
This would be a great post...if any of it were true.

Your recent post history shows mostly you talking about posters rather than the topic (usually Tim or squis).

Mine shows me talking about Turkey, the British Open...and so on.
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:lmao:   You're delusional but honestly no one really cares about you or what you post about either.  Thanks for caring what I post about though.

 
wdcrob said:
W.T.H. was that intro?!

"You can't always get what you want" :lmao: , followed by 28 minutes of barking mad Trump rambling about Trump, then he walks off the stage when Pence gets to the podium?

On the plus side the bar for next week has been set so so low.  Downside is that there's still no evidence they'll be able to clear it in Prime Time.
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If there are more rubes than expected and he does actually become the president-elect, he's got a plan for that too, known as Plan B.

 
apologies if this has already been posted (and apologies for the formatting):

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/16/12205878/donald-trump-mike-pence-vp-speech?utm_campaign=vox.social&utm_medium=social&utm_content=voxdotcom&utm_source=facebook

Donald Trump’s speech introducing Mike Pence showed why he shouldn’t be president

I do not know how to explain what I just watched.

It should be easy. Donald Trump introduced Indiana Governor Mike Pence as his running mate. There it is. One sentence. Eleven words. But that doesn’t explain what happened any better than "I spent a few hours letting lysergic acid diethylamide mimic serotonin in my brain" explains an acid trip. What just happened was weird, and it was important.







Back in May, EJ Dionne wrote that the hardest thing about covering Donald Trump would be "staying shocked." Watching him, day after day, week after week, month after month, the temptation would be to normalize his behavior, "to move Trump into the political mainstream."

But today helped. Donald Trump’s introduction of Mike Pence was shocking. Forget the political mainstream. What happened today sat outside the mainstream for normal human behavior.

It began in irony. Before Pence, before Trump, there was an empty podium, and the Rolling Stones blasting through the speakers. It had been widely reported that few top Republicans were willing to serve as Trump’s running mate. It had been widely reported that Trump was unsure about Pence, that he had regretted the decision almost as soon as he made it, that he had sought ways to reverse himself. Hours before the announcement, Trump tweeted that Pence was "my first choice from the start!", which is a thing presidential candidates typically do not need to say.





So there we were. Waiting for Trump and Pence to emerge. And what Rolling Stones song did the campaign choose? What did we all hear, over and over again, as we waited for Trump to introduce Mike Pence, his "first choice from the start!"?

"You can’t always get what you want..."








Now back to Mike Pence...


What started as farce continued as farce. Trump emerged without Pence. He spoke, alone, at a podium adorned with Trump’s name, but not Pence’s. And then Trump proceeded to talk about himself for 28 minutes. There is no other way to say this than to say it: it was the single most bizarre, impulsive, narcissistic performance I have ever seen from a major politician.

There is no way I will be able to properly described Trump’s speech to you. You should really just go and watch it yourself.


I can tell you that he rambled, but that doesn’t do it justice. He spoke about Hillary Clinton, about himself, about his victories. He talked about crushing the Republican establishment in the primaries and talking to a buddy building plants in Mexico. He bragged about the beautiful hotel he is building in Washington, DC, and patted himself on the back for his foreign policy foresight over the years.



Every five minutes or so, he seemed to remember, just for a moment, like a man trying and failing to wake from a dream, that he was there to introduce Mike Pence, and so he would say something like, "now back to Mike Pence," but then he would slip back again, and tell another anecdote about himself.

Even when he did mention Pence, he often managed to say exactly the wrong thing. "One of the big reasons I chose Mike is party unity, I have to be honest," Trump admitted midway through his speech, at the moment another candidate would have said "I chose Mike because he’ll be a great president." Trump then segued into a riff on how thoroughly he had humiliated the Republican establishment in state after state. Thus he managed to turn Pence from a peace offering into a head on a pike, a warning to all who might come after.





When Trump finally stuck to Pence, at the end of his lengthy speech, he seemed robotic, bored, restless. He recited Pence’s accomplishment like he was reading his Wikipedia page for the first time, inserting little snippets of meta-commentary and quick jabs as if to keep himself interested.

The final humiliation was yet to come: Trump introduced Pence and then immediately, unusually, walked off the stage, leaving Pence alone at the podium.


Trump is a great entertainer. But he’s not running for host of America: The Show


As with all things Trump, the speech was funny and magnetic. The guy is great TV. But it was also wrong. It was a blue stand-up set delivered at a board of directors meeting, a cruel roast offered at a child’s birthday party. Selecting and introducing a vice president is a heavy duty in American politics; it is the most power one person will ever have to potentially choose the leader of the free world. But Trump couldn’t see past himself to match the moment. The cameras turned on and he did the thing he always does, perhaps the only thing he can do: he put on a show, and made himself the star.





On Friday night, as the attempted coup in Turkey progressed, Matt Yglesias wrote about his efforts to imagine Trump in the Oval Office as the crisis unfolded. "Picture Donald Trump on a series of calls with advisors and heads of government from around the region, and inside the NATO alliance, devising a constructive response to a coup attempt in Turkey," he wrote. "Good luck."

On Saturday morning, as Trump prepared to brag about his hotel business before introducing Pence, he briefly turned to the issue. Keep in mind he had the whole night to prepare.

"So many friends in Turkey," Trump said. "Great people, amazing people. We wish them well. A lot of anguish last night, but hopefully it will all work out." Ladies and gentleman, the next President of the United States, Donald Trump!

I know many who want to support Donald Trump, who fear Clinton ideologically or simply dislike her personally, and so they are hoping, hoping, hoping that Trump will reveal a new side to himself, that he will prove himself equal to the responsibilities he seeks to absorb. But he’s been given that opportunity again and again, and he keeps failing it.

This was a fun speech to watch, and insofar as the presidential campaign is one of America’s favorite reality television series, Donald Trump is an outstanding participant. But this was also a scary speech to watch, and insofar as the presidential campaign is a test to see who has the character, the discipline, and the seriousness to be President of the United States, Trump is failing it. We need to stay shocked.
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Typical liberals, they act like Republicans are the anti-science ones with global warming, but when it comes to science they don't like they ignore it and do emotional based attacks in response, instead of addressing the actual science.

 
giantcookie said:
Typical liberals, they act like Republicans are the anti-science ones with global warming, but when it comes to science they don't like they ignore it and do emotional based attacks in response, instead of addressing the actual science.
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What you posted is not science. They are statistics, sure. But, science it is not. I do know what crazy is though. And, you are crazy. 

 
Mario Kart said:
What you posted is not science. They are statistics, sure. But, science it is not. I do know what crazy is though. And, you are crazy. 
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When I took stats in college way back when it was a math class. Maybe in this newfangled era it's science.

 
giantcookie said:
Typical liberals, they act like Republicans are the anti-science ones with global warming, but when it comes to science they don't like they ignore it and do emotional based attacks in response, instead of addressing the actual science.
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What in the Sam H does that have to do with this topic?

It was like soamming a thread with a recipe 

 
As for the pay to play issue for Pence - that really is a problem.  Only way for him to get out from under it would be to resign and not be governor anymore.

-QG

 
I read that Scott Baio was personally invited by Donald Trump to speak at the convention. Baio said he was going to reveal a few a surprises.

I hope he explains one of the greatest TV mysteries of all-time: whatever happened to Chuck Cunningham. Chuck was right there in every scene, dribbling a basketball, and then poof, he just disappeared, and was never mentioned again.

 
I gained the right to vote in 95, and in the entire time I've been a voter none of the presidential candidates have ever appealed to me, although some have been tolerable enough to cast a vote for.

But these two are truly the worst of the worst.

I have an equal burning hate for both.

 
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