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Official Donald Trump for President thread (4 Viewers)
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If Hillary do so by herself...sure, I guess. But just because Hillary talks about it, and proposes such to congress and the states? Ummmm....you're off your rocker there
SaintsInDome2006
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AnonymousBob
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SaintsInDome2006
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SaintsInDome2006
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Today in Part II of "Crime Or Not A Crime":
randall146
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PlasmaDogPlasma
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" Needless to say, this kind of forgery is highly illegal. But it does demonstrate that Trump’s followers are getting very, very desperate as his poll numbers continue to plummet. "
You don't say
Sebowski
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Peyton Marino
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AnonymousBob
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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If you've been looking for some substance and clarity about where Trump stands, here you go. He probably should have done this months ago.
CurlyNight
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Is Trump still running on the law and order campaign? What a #####.
SaintsInDome2006
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MikeIke
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krista4
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Could be even fewer than that - I think the Newt stuff from earlier today shows he's no longer firmly on board, and Tubby just goes wherever the wind takes him...wait, I guess that wouldn't be far, but you know what I mean.I do think we're headed for the Ryan un-endorsement soon, which will open the floodgates of defections. He'll still have Newt, Tubby, Jeff Sessions, David Duke and Eminence though.
Then again, I've been unpleasantly surprised by Ryan and McCain so far, so I wouldn't put it past them to stick with him through this, too.
SaintsInDome2006
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Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
krista4
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Coeur de Lion
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And Chachi. Don't forget about Chachi.I do think we're headed for the Ryan un-endorsement soon, which will open the floodgates of defections. He'll still have Newt, Tubby, Jeff Sessions, David Duke and Eminence though.
NREC34
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It's a five year prison sentence to threaten to kill someone. There is truly only one candidate that deserves a chant about locking them up and it's not the one who has been cleared by the FBI and the congressional witch hunt.
The bubble will continue to lie to the sheep though and keep them riled up.
The bubble will continue to lie to the sheep though and keep them riled up.
Captain Cranks
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NutterButter
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JerseyToughGuys
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Leeroy Jenkins
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JerseyToughGuys
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The General
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take the law into your own hands
SaintsInDome2006
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The guy's projecting. I think he's been doing that more than people realize maybe.
The General
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That is amazing. If I'm Hillary boil this down to a 4 part ad, play it non stop all day every day.
Dinsy Ejotuz
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Ok guys, let me start by saying I know this started as a joke. But now SNOPES has weighed in on the NAMBLA thing. They say it's not true, but that guy's a ####### lib -- can't believe anything on that site.
SaintsInDome2006
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"If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don’t know."
- "The Second Amendment people."
"Those people." What a put on.
This is not a 2nd Amendment guy himself. This is a guy who thinks of the people he is manipulating, who are following him, as being ultra-violent. He thinks of the largely rural people roaring their approval as being a sort of characature of the kind a super wealthy penthouse Manhattanite, who would never stay overnight where they live, would imagine them to be. Violent, irrational, reactionary.
It's so twisted.
- "The Second Amendment people."
"Those people." What a put on.
This is not a 2nd Amendment guy himself. This is a guy who thinks of the people he is manipulating, who are following him, as being ultra-violent. He thinks of the largely rural people roaring their approval as being a sort of characature of the kind a super wealthy penthouse Manhattanite, who would never stay overnight where they live, would imagine them to be. Violent, irrational, reactionary.
It's so twisted.
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SHIZNITTTT
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I can't wait until the debates. How in the world is the Trump camp going to defend the gun/2nd amendment remarks? "That isn't what he meant, it was taken out of context?"
I am just following at this point to be able to see when Donald whips out his penis and starts talking about schlonging anyone who is against him.
I am just following at this point to be able to see when Donald whips out his penis and starts talking about schlonging anyone who is against him.
bagger
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they have pathetically tried to say that he meant they should vote against her...of course which makes no sense as in the example she gave she would have already been in office.
Leeroy Jenkins
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The General
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I'm not buying it til I see Trump's taxes, and then I bet those are probably some photoshop crap.
The General
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Is this bullying? I'm not really sure.
PlasmaDogPlasma
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fatguyinalittlecoat
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Yeah, they even screwed up the walk-back. If they were going to make something up, it should have been that Second Amendment supporters could vote for or pressure their Senators not to confirm justices hostile to the Second Amendment. At least that would have been logically coherent.
ETA: It's sorta hard to blame the staffers who put that out there though. Making up plausible explanations for all the crazy stuff Trump says seems like a tough job.
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massraider
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Donald Trump has long held that Hillary Clinton is stealing the election. But today he suggested something even darker and more sinister: that his supporters resolve the issue with their guns.
Specifically, he suggested that using the constitutional right to bear arms may be the only way to stop Clinton from appointing supreme court justices should she win in November. “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Trump said, before adding: “Although the second amendment people – maybe there is, I don’t know.”
Whether Trump was suggesting his supporters use their weaponry against Clinton herself or any liberal judges she might go on to appoint is somewhat open to interpretation. Most people are reading it as the former, but either way it’s unacceptable and a violation of what it means to live in a free Democracy.
This is a new low even for Trump, who’s been accused of inciting general violence and has verbally attacked individuals from Khizr Khan to Rosie O’Donnell. But he’s never seemed to incite it against individuals – until now.
Gabby Giffords drove home that point and the pernicious effect those words could have on the unstable, in a statement released Tuesday. “We must draw a bright red line between political speech and suggestions of violence,” she said, adding. “Responsible, stable individuals won’t take Trump’s rhetoric to its literal end, but his words may provide a magnet for those seeking infamy. They may provide inspiration or permission for those bent on bloodshed.” Those words have special meaning coming from Giffords, whose time in political office was cut short by an assassination attempt that left six dead; she survived but with a critical gunshot wound to the head.
Now Trump is pulling the tricks he always does when he says something beyond the pale politically. He’s blaming the media for getting it wrong.
Before when he’s implicitly encouraged or used the language of violence – at rallies when he’s told supporters if they punch a protester he’ll pay the legal bills, or at campaign stops when he’s boasted murder wouldn’t drive his supporters away – he’s walked it back as just another quirky part of his humor. “Obviously it was a joke,” he later said of the murder brag.
Trump’s already spinning this newest threat, saying he meant that Second Amendment supporters could still stop Clinton’s election – by voting, sillies!
But that line, like much of his campaign rhetoric, is pure bull####. While there’s some wiggle room in other parts of his statement what’s not up for debate is that he was talking about Clinton’s powers after the election, if she wins – “if she gets to pick her judges.”
You can’t stop someone from winning democratically if they’ve already won’t a democratic election – you have to do it criminally, and specifically, according to the rest of Trump’s quote, using “the Second Amendment.”
I’ve no doubt that it’s an unequivocal call for the use of gun violence to upend democracy and one for which Trump should not be given the benefit of the doubt.
Even more stunning than any of Trump’s stunningly unpresidential behavior is that not every Republican has run straight for the hills. He even had backup from that Republican mainstay organization known as the National Rifle Association, which tweeted its support for his initial statement even as it altered its meaning by claiming Trump said if Clinton gets to pick supreme court judges, “there’s nothing we can do.”
This is not party politics as usual. This goes beyond mere polarization or the other ills of Washington. It’s an attack on democracy that’s as personal as it is politically vile.
Trump was talking in thinly veiled terms about the most personal kind of attack there is – an attack on the body and specifically, an attack on the body of the first female president.
The gendered element of it isn’t lost on party leaders. Elizabeth Warren didn’t mince words on Twitter this evening, saying “.@realDonaldTrump makes death threats because he’s a pathetic coward who can’t handle the fact that he’s losing to a girl.”
Specifically, he suggested that using the constitutional right to bear arms may be the only way to stop Clinton from appointing supreme court justices should she win in November. “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Trump said, before adding: “Although the second amendment people – maybe there is, I don’t know.”
Whether Trump was suggesting his supporters use their weaponry against Clinton herself or any liberal judges she might go on to appoint is somewhat open to interpretation. Most people are reading it as the former, but either way it’s unacceptable and a violation of what it means to live in a free Democracy.
This is a new low even for Trump, who’s been accused of inciting general violence and has verbally attacked individuals from Khizr Khan to Rosie O’Donnell. But he’s never seemed to incite it against individuals – until now.
Gabby Giffords drove home that point and the pernicious effect those words could have on the unstable, in a statement released Tuesday. “We must draw a bright red line between political speech and suggestions of violence,” she said, adding. “Responsible, stable individuals won’t take Trump’s rhetoric to its literal end, but his words may provide a magnet for those seeking infamy. They may provide inspiration or permission for those bent on bloodshed.” Those words have special meaning coming from Giffords, whose time in political office was cut short by an assassination attempt that left six dead; she survived but with a critical gunshot wound to the head.
Now Trump is pulling the tricks he always does when he says something beyond the pale politically. He’s blaming the media for getting it wrong.
Before when he’s implicitly encouraged or used the language of violence – at rallies when he’s told supporters if they punch a protester he’ll pay the legal bills, or at campaign stops when he’s boasted murder wouldn’t drive his supporters away – he’s walked it back as just another quirky part of his humor. “Obviously it was a joke,” he later said of the murder brag.
Trump’s already spinning this newest threat, saying he meant that Second Amendment supporters could still stop Clinton’s election – by voting, sillies!
But that line, like much of his campaign rhetoric, is pure bull####. While there’s some wiggle room in other parts of his statement what’s not up for debate is that he was talking about Clinton’s powers after the election, if she wins – “if she gets to pick her judges.”
You can’t stop someone from winning democratically if they’ve already won’t a democratic election – you have to do it criminally, and specifically, according to the rest of Trump’s quote, using “the Second Amendment.”
I’ve no doubt that it’s an unequivocal call for the use of gun violence to upend democracy and one for which Trump should not be given the benefit of the doubt.
Even more stunning than any of Trump’s stunningly unpresidential behavior is that not every Republican has run straight for the hills. He even had backup from that Republican mainstay organization known as the National Rifle Association, which tweeted its support for his initial statement even as it altered its meaning by claiming Trump said if Clinton gets to pick supreme court judges, “there’s nothing we can do.”
This is not party politics as usual. This goes beyond mere polarization or the other ills of Washington. It’s an attack on democracy that’s as personal as it is politically vile.
Trump was talking in thinly veiled terms about the most personal kind of attack there is – an attack on the body and specifically, an attack on the body of the first female president.
The gendered element of it isn’t lost on party leaders. Elizabeth Warren didn’t mince words on Twitter this evening, saying “.@realDonaldTrump makes death threats because he’s a pathetic coward who can’t handle the fact that he’s losing to a girl.”
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moleculo
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Warren better be careful, lest she be accused of being a bully. I'm hearing that some people would have her account axed for statements like this. That's what people are saying. Sad!
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
In all honesty the latest Trump statement of 2nd amendment people taking care of the Clinton problem is very scary. I can't believe that there isn't some sort of law that would cover this type of speech. I don't want some lunatic Jethro to start picking off people at Clinton rallys, or blowing up voting booths come election day. Very scary what Donald is saying these days. Gabby Giffords and Martin Luther King, Jr. family have come out with statements talking about the reckless nature of those statements.
Clinton probably will have 10x the amount of protection around her until the election. Thanks Grumpsf
Clinton probably will have 10x the amount of protection around her until the election. Thanks Grumpsf
fatguyinalittlecoat
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I don't think Trump bought much TV time for the primaries either and he destroyed big spenders like Jeb Bush. Probably thought he could do the same thing for the general election. And until a month or two ago his campaign didn't really have any money to spend anyway.
squistion
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SaintsInDome2006
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You mean where Hillary claimed 2nd Amendment supporters are just ignorant violent anarchists willing to kill a presidential candidate?
Did she ever say anything that hateful about conservatives?
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