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culdeus said:
What change?  Where in the constitution does it say there has to be 9?  
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Nowhere, but there are eight now...

So are you implying that if Trump loses and the GOP maintains control they would just obstruct the hearing process until enough justices dropped dead and they could make another run at the presidency?

Because that would seem fraught with risks, not least in the 2018 and 2020 elections where such a public issue could energize their opponents

 
Daywalker said:
A large % of Trump supporters know this.  But they enjoy the anguish of people like Seth Meyers.

They are older white people.  Their dreams did not come true.  They are miserable. No retirement.  Inadequate healthcare.  No dental.  No vacation.  They have given up.

They blame minorities, unions,  immigration and women's lib for their plight.  

They think voting for Trump hurts those people.  That's all they want to do.  The don't care about policy or the future.  They have given up. 
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Not sure if the percentage is large but I agree with this 100%. It's really sad actually on many levels.

Think most Trump guys would agree and will only deflect with something like "Well Clinton supporters just want their free checks"

 
Can someone unpack the Skittles thing for me?

Is Trump Jr. saying that 3 out of 5 "colors" of the human race are inherently murderous?

Or is he saying that 3 per "bowl" (3%?) are inherently murderous?

I mean, either one of them would be totally wrong of course. But one claim is obviously more racist than the other.

 
Don Quixote said:
Fahrenthold's latest, on Trump using foundation money to settle his businesses' legal obligations, in violation of tax laws.  But, of course, this is breaking as the same time as the Brangelina divorce.

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Where is the guy who yesterday was saying that he didn't think Trump would run into any congressional investigations if he were to win :lol:  

 
Joe Summer said:
Can someone unpack the Skittles thing for me?

Is Trump Jr. saying that 3 out of 5 "colors" of the human race are inherently murderous?

Or is he saying that 3 per "bowl" (3%?) are inherently murderous?

I mean, either one of them would be totally wrong of course. But one claim is obviously more racist than the other.
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The latter.

 
cstu said:
In one case, from 2007, Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club faced $120,000 in unpaid fines from the town of Palm Beach, Fla., resulting from a dispute over the size of a flagpole.

In a settlement, Palm Beach agreed to waive those fines — if Trump’s club made a $100,000 donation to a specific charity for veterans. Instead, Trump sent a check from the Donald J. Trump Foundation, a charity funded almost entirely by other people’s money, according to tax records.
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eeesh.

 
The General said:
Not sure if the percentage is large but I agree with this 100%. It's really sad actually on many levels.

Think most Trump guys would agree and will only deflect with something like "Well Clinton supporters just want their free checks"
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I don't give a #### why these dolts support Trump.  Any reason is bad, what do I care what bad reason they have?

With all the evidence we have that he's a joke, any Trump supporter isn't bright enough to share a conversation with me, or any other reasonable person.  

 
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massraider said:
I don't give a #### why these dolts support Trump.  Any reason is bad, what do I care what bad reason they have?

With all the evidence we have that he's a joke, any Trump supporter isn't bright enough to share a conversation with me, or any other reasonable person.  
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:lmao:

 
massraider said:
I don't give a #### why these dolts support Trump.  Any reason is bad, what do I care what bad reason they have?

With all the evidence we have that he's a joke, any Trump supporter isn't bright enough to share a conversation with me, or any other reasonable person.  
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well then we might as well just lock this thread since any person discussing it should either be silenced or put to death depending on which enlightened viewpoint is used.

Isn't that excellent?

 
Joe Summer said:
Can someone unpack the Skittles thing for me?

Is Trump Jr. saying that 3 out of 5 "colors" of the human race are inherently murderous?

Or is he saying that 3 per "bowl" (3%?) are inherently murderous?

I mean, either one of them would be totally wrong of course. But one claim is obviously more racist than the other.
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I honestly thought they were M&M's. Now I have to reevaluate everything.

 
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JaxBill said:
well then we might as well just lock this thread since any person discussing it should either be silenced or put to death depending on which enlightened viewpoint is used.

Isn't that excellent?
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Who said anyone should be silenced?   

Assigning opinions to people that they didn't put forth, not excellent, guy!!

Put to death?  Heck no.  Who's going to operate the Tilt-a-Whirl?  

I'm only saying I'm not interested in finding out which dumb lie Trumpallos have decided to hide their bigotry--Oh, excuse me!! I mean their hatred of politicial correctness--behind.  There are people who think the moon landing was faked, and chemtrails, and vaccines cause autisim.  Once I know someone believes this stuff, I don't ask them to explain it to me.  It's enough that I know they are choking down some nonsense, I don't need to ask what flavor of nonsense it is.  

 
msommer said:
Nowhere, but there are eight now...

So are you implying that if Trump loses and the GOP maintains control they would just obstruct the hearing process until enough justices dropped dead and they could make another run at the presidency?

Because that would seem fraught with risks, not least in the 2018 and 2020 elections where such a public issue could energize their opponents
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The Democrats could filibuster any Trump appointees. It probably wouldn't hurt them politically to do so. Liberals will think they're right to do so, because the Republicans refused to confirm Garland, and independents will see it as "well, both sides do it".

If enough time passes with both parties refusing to confirm an 8th or 9th justice until they get the appointment they feel they are owed, it could eventually just become the status quo. Fifty years from now one side or the other will get a supermajority and consider nominating the extra two justices, and the minority party will go apoplectic and call it the "nuclear option" and public opinion will turn against them because for as long as anyone can remember, there have always been seven justices, and whatever law says otherwise is just an outdated technicality. 

 
CBusAlex said:
The Democrats could filibuster any Trump appointees. It probably wouldn't hurt them politically to do so. Liberals will think they're right to do so, because the Republicans refused to confirm Garland, and independents will see it as "well, both sides do it".

If enough time passes with both parties refusing to confirm an 8th or 9th justice until they get the appointment they feel they are owed, it could eventually just become the status quo. Fifty years from now one side or the other will get a supermajority and consider nominating the extra two justices, and the minority party will go apoplectic and call it the "nuclear option" and public opinion will turn against them because for as long as anyone can remember, there have always been seven justices, and whatever law says otherwise is just an outdated technicality. 
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There is a huge portion of the Republican party that understands that their way of life is over and they might have one more shot in 2020 to stack the SC before the demographic onslaught takes hold.  I realize there aren't many normal republicans left on this board, or anywhere, but this is how I see this playing out.  The last dying breath of the Romney/Bush version of the GOP wants to get 2-3 SC justices on board, then drift away.  

If they wanted a conservative, they could have just taken Garland.  They don't just want a conservative, they want to lock down their interests for decades.  Regulatory, campaign finance, voting rights, etc.  Things Garland is not proven on, can't take that chance. 

 
culdeus said:
There is a huge portion of the Republican party that understands that their way of life is over and they might have one more shot in 2020 to stack the SC before the demographic onslaught takes hold.  I realize there aren't many normal republicans left on this board, or anywhere, but this is how I see this playing out.  The last dying breath of the Romney/Bush version of the GOP wants to get 2-3 SC justices on board, then drift away.  

If they wanted a conservative, they could have just taken Garland.  They don't just want a conservative, they want to lock down their interests for decades.  Regulatory, campaign finance, voting rights, etc.  Things Garland is not proven on, can't take that chance. 
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msommer said:
... that would seem fraught with risks, not least in the 2018 and 2020 elections where such a public issue could energize their opponents
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culdeus said:
There is a huge portion of the Republican party that understands that their way of life is over and they might have one more shot in 2020 to stack the SC before the demographic onslaught takes hold.  I realize there aren't many normal republicans left on this board, or anywhere, but this is how I see this playing out.  The last dying breath of the Romney/Bush version of the GOP wants to get 2-3 SC justices on board, then drift away.  

If they wanted a conservative, they could have just taken Garland.  They don't just want a conservative, they want to lock down their interests for decades.  Regulatory, campaign finance, voting rights, etc.  Things Garland is not proven on, can't take that chance. 
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It seems so easy for Republicans to win the Presidency again - go back to their roots of fiscal conservatism, accept social liberalization, propose a reasonable way to control the border, come up with a way for those here already illegally to earn legal status. 

Republicans are responding to legitimate issues but they are doing it the most ignorant and offensive way possible.

 
Godsbrother said:
I know some very prosperous older white people that are voting for Trump and they most certainly have not given up or care about the future -- they just think differently.  

They're voting Trump for two reasons:  1) They hate Hillary    2) They can't come to grips that they have lost nearly all of the social issues to left.   They think the country has gone too far and want to return to the 1950s or at the very least stop the trend towards liberalism and there is no way that will happen with a Democrat or Libertarian in office.  They grew up in a time when Mom stayed at home while Dad worked, only men fought wars, abortions were illegal, gays stayed in the closet, minorities knew their place and you weren't labeled a racist or bigot  (even though many of them are).

They want things to return to the 1950s.  They may be backward but they aren't all unsuccessful, miserable people with nothing to live for.
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Which is hilarious. Trump is definitely pro-LBGT and I am sure he only changed to Pro-Life for the election.

 
I wonder when Trump loses he will say he never really ran.  I can see him saying something along the lines of ...  I was a racist, homophobe,  feed people their fears, head no real plan  and still half the country voted for me.  I just did this to show how America is so stupid. 

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
I wonder when Trump loses he will say he never really ran.  I can see him saying something along the lines of ...  I was a racist, homophobe,  feed people their fears, head no real plan  and still half the country voted for me.  I just did this to show how America is so stupid. 
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Nah, a narcissistic sociopath would never admit that.  He's going to blame his loss on the rigged system. 

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
 


- I think we all lost out here.
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I love how he tries to position this as if this is something his lawyers presented to him.  "If it were up to me, I wouldn't have ever entered into the 3500 lawsuits I've been involved in as an adult.  It's my lawyers that keep wanting to sue people." 

To be fair, I had pneumonia the week they taught how to sue for Irresponsible Intent during my second year at Trump University Law School, so I can't really say how strong their case is.  It might be a slam dunk.  

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
I wonder when Trump loses he will say he never really ran.  I can see him saying something along the lines of ...  I was a racist, homophobe,  feed people their fears, head no real plan  and still half the country voted for me.  I just did this to show how America is so stupid. 
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A few years ago, my daughter read a book for school called "The Kid Who Ran For President" by Dan Gutman.  It's about a 12-year-old kid who runs for President on a platform of banning homework.  The parallels between how the protagonist's campaign goes and Trump's are similar, eerily so if you're willing the disregard the racist tones of Trump's campaign.  Anyway, there's a big moment in the book where the candidate scolds the American public, asks them how stupid can they all be to support a child running for President.  

If you or anyone if your family hasn't read this book but it still sounds familiar... John Oliver referenced it in an exit strategy when he recommended Trump drop out of the race.  If Trump dropped out and said he only ran to show how flawed the process was, he exits the race a hero and without having to do a job he isn't qualified for and hasn't shown any interest in learning how to do with a basic level of competency.  And we could have a flawed President but at least someone familiar with the basics of how the job works, and hopefully an opportunity to examine and revamp our seriously flawed selection process for President.     

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
A few years ago, my daughter read a book for school called "The Kid Who Ran For President" by Dan Gutman.  It's about a 12-year-old kid who runs for President on a platform of banning homework.  The parallels between how the protagonist's campaign goes and Trump's are similar, eerily so if you're willing the disregard the racist tones of Trump's campaign.  Anyway, there's a big moment in the book where the candidate scolds the American public, asks them how stupid can they all be to support a child running for President.  

If you or anyone if your family hasn't read this book but it still sounds familiar... John Oliver referenced it in an exit strategy when he recommended Trump drop out of the race.  If Trump dropped out and said he only ran to show how flawed the process was, he exits the race a hero and without having to do a job he isn't qualified for and hasn't shown any interest in learning how to do with a basic level of competency.  And we could have a flawed President but at least someone familiar with the basics of how the job works, and hopefully an opportunity to examine and revamp our seriously flawed selection process for President.     
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Here the segment.

 
badmojo1006 said:
Which is hilarious. Trump is definitely pro-LBGT and I am sure he only changed to Pro-Life for the election.
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Not really, he says to leave the transgender rest room choice issue up to the states, that is not a pro-LGBT position any more than leaving gay marriage up to the states is.

 
TobiasFunke said:
My favorite part about that Trump tweet is that the lawsuit that makes it pretty much impossible for public figures to sue newspapers for libel is a case where a racist politician sued the NY Times for making him look bad.
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Well we could have a new standard under El Jefe Trump: "irresponsible intent". - Whatever that is.

 
3C's said:
This one makes me laugh. The truth is likely just the opposite. He wants to sue and the lawyers said no (for now). And WTF exactly is "irresponsible intent" anyway? Not sure that even exists. "Best Words!"

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago
My lawyers want to sue the failing @nytimes so badly for irresponsible intent. I said no (for now), but they are watching. Really disgusting
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3C's said:
Julian Sanchez @normative


"irresponsible intent"? Did they get their JDs from Trump University?

sAD sACK @sadsackjetsfan


When history writes the book on your failed run for the presidency it will be titled "Irresponsible Intent"



Dave Rodrigues @DaveRodrigues


I'm no lawyer, but "irresponsible intent" doesn't seem actionable. Oh, wait. I am a lawyer. This is a word salad.
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3C's said:
I see where he got "irresponsible intent" from? Replies to his call for people to shoot Clinton:

Angela C. Johnson ‏@Akoma0224 Aug 9
@realDonaldTrump intent is irrelevant. The repercussions of what he SAID is very relevant. Dangerous. Irresponsible. DISQUALIFYING
Barry Wark ‏@barryjwark Aug 9
Getting dangerously close to joking about a fire in a crowded theatre. Irresponsible no mater the intent.
Kelsey Cavazos ‏@Sp1ffyJ1ffy Aug 10
Regardless of intent (sounded like a call for assassination to me) you can't say things with an open interpretation. It's irresponsible.
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All rolled up into one.

 
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MattFancy said:
Donald Trump's Charity Golf Tournament Was Apparently Rigged, And He Used His Charity's Money To Settle The Lawsuit

"In 2010, a man named Martin Greenberg hit a hole-in-one on the 13th hole while playing in a charity tournament at Trump’s course in Westchester County, N.Y.

Greenberg won a $1 million prize. Briefly.

Later, Greenberg was told that he had won nothing. The prize’s rules required that the shot had to go 150 yards. But Trump’s course had allegedly made the hole too short."
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"The man’s golf course was rigged like a damn state fair game! For a charity tournament! Trump oscillates between carny and supervillain so quickly, it’s no longer possible to tell the difference."

At this point, I have to wonder if anything he does is legit.

 
honky kong said:
"The man’s golf course was rigged like a damn state fair game! For a charity tournament! Trump oscillates between carny and supervillain so quickly, it’s no longer possible to tell the difference."

At this point, I have to wonder if anything he does is legit.
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I was well past that point long ago.  I'm not joking that he's a narcissistic sociopath. 

What is a narcissistic sociopath?


  • A narcissistic sociopath is someone with a combination of narcissistic personality disorder and definitive behavioral signs of sociopathy.
  • People with narcissism are characterized by their excessive and persistent need for others’ admiration and positive reinforcement. They generally have grandiose opinions of themselves and believe they are superior to other people. Narcissists are also frequently convinced that they are above the normal responsibilities and obligations of everyday life, so they usually have significant difficulties maintaining employment or relationships as a result.
  • The narcissistic sociopath has this type of personality along with a noticeable lack of regard for the rights of others and a tendency to regularly violate those rights.
One noted difference between a narcissistic sociopath and people with narcissism alone is that:

  • The narcissist with the sociopathy reacts strongly and sometimes even violently to negative feedback. True sociopaths generally do not respond to criticism or care what others may think of them.
  • A narcissistic sociopath is unable to tolerate criticism and needs constant praise, as well as deference from other people. Many with this condition present themselves in the best light possible and are able to easily charm others to gain their trust.
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