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Let's see if Trump can go a week without asking his supporters to murder another U.S. citizen. Then maybe we can re-evaluate his credentials to be this country's president again.

#BabySteps 

 
sho nuff said:
Because that is the only business he does overseas?
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The point is that real estate is difficult to move, and that seems t be where he has done the best. As to other enterprises, like any businessman, he will invest where he is likely to make a better return with fewer regulatory delays (not fewer regulations, but fewer delays because of them).  If investing in America means a better return with fewer delays, then that is where a savvy businessman invests. The one thing Trump has in his favor is that he recognizes that the United States is more hostile to businesses than many other countries. To "make America great again" means cutting back on that hostility. This is something Hillary doesn't understand at all - we will continue to see businesses leaving the US under her watch.

Is that enough to get me to vote for Trump? No it isn't, because I don't think he can do it.

 
elbowrm said:
Out of all of Trump's idiotic assertions, the most lasting damage is going to be caused by this line about the only way he can lose is through cheating.  Delegitimizing the results of the election in the eyes of his supporters threatens the very foundation of our political process.  It's one thing to attempt to delegitimize our popularly elected officials (birtherism, lock her up, etc.) - as despicable as that is, it doesn't hold a candle to calling into question the process itself.  

So not only is he currently hand-delivering the presidency to Hillary, in the process he is more likely than not giving the Senate to her, and putting the house in play, but also ensuring that an already angry and vocal gun-toting minority in this country will feel that the election was stolen from them?  

Where are we supposed to go from here?  What is his end game?
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He doesn't care what the result is, he just needs an excuse for his giant ego.

 
bueno said:
The point is that real estate is difficult to move, and that seems t be where he has done the best. As to other enterprises, like any businessman, he will invest where he is likely to make a better return with fewer regulatory delays (not fewer regulations, but fewer delays because of them).  If investing in America means a better return with fewer delays, then that is where a savvy businessman invests. The one thing Trump has in his favor is that he recognizes that the United States is more hostile to businesses than many other countries. To "make America great again" means cutting back on that hostility. This is something Hillary doesn't understand at all - we will continue to see businesses leaving the US under her watch.

Is that enough to get me to vote for Trump? No it isn't, because I don't think he can do it.
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Nobody said anything about moving his real estate.

 
Eminence said:
Trump got more votes than anyone in GOP primary history.
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This fact is starting to look like a symbol of the fracture, decline and eventual destruction of the Republican Party, IMO. Trump's voting bloc is loyal but small, and there just aren't enough true Republicans left to counteract him.

 
[scooter] said:
bueno said:
There is a reason we haven't had back to back Democrat Presidents since Martin Van Buren.
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James Buchanan, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, not to mention Al Gore winning the popular vote in 2000.
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I think Bueno misstated the stat but it's a funky one anyway - it's this: there haven't been 3 straight whole DEM presidential terms with successive elected presidents since AJax + MVB. 

So that takes out FDR + Truman and their 5 straight terms for instance.

 
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[scooter] said:
James Buchanan, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, not to mention Al Gore winning the popular vote in 2000.
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You got to let go of Gore! As to the others, you're looking at VPs that took over the office without being elected. So picky, picky!

 
Trump: Americans could be tried in Guantánamo


A President Donald Trump might push for Americans accused of terrorism to be tried in a military tribunal at the U.S. Navy base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, the Republican nominee told the Miami Herald on Thursday.

“I would say they could be tried there, that would be fine,” Trump said in a brief interview ahead of his speech to home builders in Miami Beach.

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MikeIke said:
I think Trump's presidential run goes back to this moment.  His ego just couldn't handle being insulted on a national stage like that and he had to do something about it.  He holds grudges for a very long time 
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And that is his downfall.

Exhibit A: His feud about the quip about his little fingers. Before no one knew about it. Today the whole world laughs at it and him

 
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And yet, come 2016, Trump said—under oath—that he hadn’t thought about politics “much” as late as 2008, nine years after his first planned run for the presidency.

In that same deposition, Trump was asked if he had ever said Hillary Clinton would be a great vice president or president. After receiving an assurance that the exhibit being held by the plaintiff’s lawyer did not contain that statement, Trump said he didn’t think he had ever said it. Then the plaintiff’s lawyer produced a new exhibit, another 2008 blog post by Trump: “I know Hillary, and I think she would make a great president or vice president."

How could Trump now be claiming Hillary Clinton was too incompetent to be president? “Well, I didn't think too much about it,” he said again. In other words, Trump claimed in sworn testimony that he was writing blog posts without thinking and said many things he did not believe. (He made the same claim when confronted with his praise of men who were then his rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, including former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, former New York Governor George Pataki and former Texas Governor Rick Perry.)
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http://www.newsweek.com/mr-speaker-stop-trump-let-gop-lose-election-489797

 
In that same 2016 deposition, Trump was confronted with a marketing video in which he said professors and adjunct professors would be teaching the classes for Trump University. He was then asked if he knew the identities of the adjunct professors. “I know names, but I really don't know the identities,” he said. As with many of Trump’s dismissals of evidence when he is caught, the answer makes no sense. P.S.: He never gave the names “he knew” of the adjunct professors; that would have been a challenge, since those people did not exist.
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Here's an honest question for Trump supporters: Trump gets caught daily telling lies. Some big and some small. And that's not a new thing - there are mountains of evidence over decades showing consistent dishonesty, usually to benefit himself. 

Given that he is a proven self-serving liar, why do you believe what he says? And, if you don't believe everything, how do you choose? Can you give any reason that a rational person should believe him now?

To be clear - this is not a question that can be answered by comparing him to Hillary, or mentioning her lies. I'm asking how and why you believe Trump, not disbelieve her. 

 
randall146 said:
Here's an honest question for Trump supporters: Trump gets caught daily telling lies. Some big and some small. And that's not a new thing - there are mountains of evidence over decades showing consistent dishonesty, usually to benefit himself. 

Given that he is a proven self-serving liar, why do you believe what he says? And, if you don't believe everything, how do you choose? Can you give any reason that a rational person should believe him now?

To be clear - this is not a question that can be answered by comparing him to Hillary, or mentioning her lies. I'm asking how and why you believe Trump, not disbelieve her. 
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Honest answer.

 
MikeIke said:
I think Trump's presidential run goes back to this moment.  His ego just couldn't handle being insulted on a national stage like that and he had to do something about it.  He holds grudges for a very long time 
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On the one hand this seems so outlandish and crazy that it can't be true.  OTOH, Trump.

 
randall146 said:
Here's an honest question for Trump supporters: Trump gets caught daily telling lies. Some big and some small. And that's not a new thing - there are mountains of evidence over decades showing consistent dishonesty, usually to benefit himself. 

Given that he is a proven self-serving liar, why do you believe what he says? And, if you don't believe everything, how do you choose? Can you give any reason that a rational person should believe him now?

To be clear - this is not a question that can be answered by comparing him to Hillary, or mentioning her lies. I'm asking how and why you believe Trump, not disbelieve her. 
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Everybody lies.

You, me, everyone who posts in the FFA, everyone who runs for political office, every president we've ever had, your wife, your daughter, your best friend, your boss, your neighbor.

Feigning outrage over Trump lying while giving others a pass only proves you are a hypocrite.

 
Everyone lies but I'm not sure a presidential nominee has ever stood in front of a country and just made #### up to the degree that Trump has. At least not in my lifetime. The sad part is nobody calls him on it. And the even sadder part is that when people do call him on it his supporters don't care at all. It's as if truth and facts don't mean anything at all to them. 

I think the 2016 election is going to go down in history as one of the most pathetic moments in US history. This is nothing to be proud of. My only hope at this point is that we just survive it. That's pretty much all I'm hoping for.

 
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Gucci Fur said:
Everybody lies.

You, me, everyone who posts in the FFA, everyone who runs for political office, every president we've ever had, your wife, your daughter, your best friend, your boss, your neighbor.

Feigning outrage over Trump lying while giving others a pass only proves you are a hypocrite.
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If I could rephrase your answer - you think Trump lies within normal human amounts and therefore it doesn't concern you?

 
Gucci Fur said:
Everybody lies.

You, me, everyone who posts in the FFA, everyone who runs for political office, every president we've ever had, your wife, your daughter, your best friend, your boss, your neighbor.

Feigning outrage over Trump lying while giving others a pass only proves you are a hypocrite.
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Not being able to differentiate between any other person that lies, and what Trump does proves something as well.

This is some weak sauce.

 
Gucci Fur said:
Everybody lies.

You, me, everyone who posts in the FFA, everyone who runs for political office, every president we've ever had, your wife, your daughter, your best friend, your boss, your neighbor.

Feigning outrage over Trump lying while giving others a pass only proves you are a hypocrite.
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Ironic!!!.... since the main complaint Trumpets make about Hillary is that she lies.

 
Gucci Fur said:
Everybody lies.

You, me, everyone who posts in the FFA, everyone who runs for political office, every president we've ever had, your wife, your daughter, your best friend, your boss, your neighbor.

Feigning outrage over Trump lying while giving others a pass only proves you are a hypocrite.
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:lmao:

 
Gucci Fur said:
Everybody lies.

You, me, everyone who posts in the FFA, everyone who runs for political office, every president we've ever had, your wife, your daughter, your best friend, your boss, your neighbor.

Feigning outrage over Trump lying while giving others a pass only proves you are a hypocrite.
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No...not everyone lies in the manner that he does.  That is your logical fallacy. 

 
randall146 said:
That's a weird decision. You'd think trump wouldn't let him
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At this point, I'm sure Pence regrets accepting the position as Trump's running mate. Unless he plans on completely retiring from politics comma he does not want to be lumped in as shady and deceptive like Donald Trump. It's a lot better for him if no one can say that Trump and Pence wouldn't release their tax returns. One of the reasons Trump has such trouble getting any support from other Republicans is because his name is going to be thrown in their faces for years to come if they speak up about supporting Trump and his crazy rhetoric. 

 
HH: All right, now to debates, they’re in kind of chaos there, so I’m going to leave Fox out of this for a moment. But if you negotiate hard, you can get Chuck Todd and Lester Holt. I think Jake Tapper and Wolf Blitzer were fair to you. I think Dana Bash is very fair to you. John Dickerson, Mary Katharine Ham, they did the ABC, I think all those people are fair. Yours truly, I think I was fair. Are you going to do these debates? And should you do more of them and ask for new moderators like the ones I just named?

DT: Well, we don’t know who the moderator is at the first debate. I mean, I have to say, and one of the things, I want to do the debates, as you know, I fully want to do the debates. I think they shouldn’t have them against the NFL games, but you know, I think that’s, I think it’s stupid. Now we’re going to outdraw the NFL. We’re going to outdraw everybody, but why are they giving up 25,000, 25 million viewers? I mean, they’re giving up 25 million viewers, mostly men, by the way. But they’re going to give up a lot of viewers, and they’ll still have this massive show. But why are they putting them, I mean, why aren’t they having it on a non-NFL night?

HH: I agree. They’re stuck in…

DT: Two of the three debates are against, you know, big NFL games.

HH: Yeah, they’re stuck in the past.

DT: So you ask yourself, why would they do that, okay?

HH: They’re stuck in the past, but I think if you got Chuck Todd and Wolf Blitzer and Jake Tapper and Lester Holt and Dana Bash and Dickerson, new people, Mary Katharine Ham, you could even ask for me. I’d be happy to do it again, even though we have some dust-ups on stage. Don’t you think that you should just name the people you want and throw down on this commission and say bring in the new blood?

DT: I think we can, and I think that will happen, and I think we’ll agree on somebody. I don’t like all of the people that you mentioned, but some of them are good.

HH: Who do you like?

DT: I don’t want to say that now. I’m not looking to insult anybody, but you know, I’m a person that doesn’t like insulting people.

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HH: So you are definitely, let me wrap it up, then. You are definitely going to debate?

DT: Oh, yeah, sure, I’m going to debate, but I want to get the terms so that I’m satisfied with them. No, I want to debate. I want to debate.

HH: All right, so, and when you debate, you don’t care who’s in front of you, but you want new faces? I don’t want the same old faces, Donald Trump, the same old guys. Do you want some new people?

DT: Are you saying that? Are you saying that?

HH: That’s me. I want Chuck Todd and Lester Holt…

DT: All right. Okay, well, look, okay…

HH: …and Jake Tapper…

DT: I think Lester Holt is a good guy. I’m okay with having, to be honest with you, I’m okay with having new faces. I like some of the old faces, too, but I’m okay with having new faces. But I don’t want to have people that are unfair. When you look at what Candy Crowley did with, you know, with Mitt Romney, that was so unfair. And she was wrong on top of everything.

HH: She was wrong. But Chuck Todd won’t do that. Dickerson won’t do that. Jake and Wolf won’t do that. Dana Bash was very fair to you, didn’t you think?

DT: I think she’s had moments of great fairness.

HH: Mary Katharine Ham, very fair to you.

DT: I’ve never gotten along with her, no.

HH: With Mary Katharine?

DT: Never gotten along.

HH: Oh, well, we’ll have to check in on that. Okay.

DT: No, she is not a fan of mine, and I’ve never gotten along with her. So that…

HH: Okay, I’ll ask her about that.

DT: I don’t know her. I don’t know her, but she says only bad things, so let’s cross her name off.

HH: Okay.

DT: No, I do not, I do not.

HH: You can put my name on…

DT: I am not a fan.

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http://www.hughhewitt.com/donald-trump-makes-return-visit/#more-31501

- Moderators for the debates yet to be chosen I take it.

- And Trump still has room for objections and getting "the terms" like he wants them.

 
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elbowrm said:
Out of all of Trump's idiotic assertions, the most lasting damage is going to be caused by this line about the only way he can lose is through cheating.  Delegitimizing the results of the election in the eyes of his supporters threatens the very foundation of our political process.  It's one thing to attempt to delegitimize our popularly elected officials (birtherism, lock her up, etc.) - as despicable as that is, it doesn't hold a candle to calling into question the process itself.  

So not only is he currently hand-delivering the presidency to Hillary, in the process he is more likely than not giving the Senate to her, and putting the house in play, but also ensuring that an already angry and vocal gun-toting minority in this country will feel that the election was stolen from them?  

Where are we supposed to go from here?  What is his end game?
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He and this rhetoric is the biggest threat to the unitied states. Not isis. 

 
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