Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Many people are saying the other thread is better.
All joking aside, this thread has been about morbid fascination, depressing moments, and realizations about the ignorance of some of our fellow Americans.
Trump's polling reached historic pathetic lows and this thread, for about 200 pages, has been about enjoying the complete meltdown a of a horrible person, who would have been happy to dismantle the planet's stability if it meant 5 more minutes of television coverage.
Someone find me a thread with more joy in it over the last 30 days.
This thread isn't serious business. This thread is laughing at a clown.
Nope, but carry on.If by "coming together" you mean giving the bigots who support Trump a place at the grown up table, then we're just going to disagree.
Unpack then. You have always seemed like a reasonable guy, if someone that I disagree with 100% politically. You're not who I'm referring to here BTW either. What about Trump, his "policy positions," and his supporters is worth taking seriously or having genuine dialogue with?Nope, but carry on.
I don't agree. I'm sure there are plenty that are Hillary supporters and some that don't follow politics at all. But carry on with looking down at them all.I'm not down with the small handful of posts that are classist, but the vast majority of this stuff is totally harmless and funny. Not to mention true. You and I both know that there's a 99% correlation between "people who don't understand why white people can't say the N word but rappers can say it all the time" and "people who are voting for Trump."
He's arguably the worst person on earth, and he's being given 24/7 exposure. What did you expect would happen?Trump is bringing out the worst in people on both sides.
Started by another, um, nevermind.Sweet, another loser Trump thread.
On a serious note @Eminence, I think it's relatively clear that the people in this thread pointing out Trump's utter lack of knowledge and qualifications to be president are showing much more respect for their fellow Americans than either Trump or his followers do. If you don't believe it, go find yourself a Gold Star family, a Muslim, a former POW or a woman and ask them.Respect the thread, your fellow posters, and fellow Americans.
It just seemed like an opportunity to pile on and make fun of a segment of society.Unpack then. You have always seemed like a reasonable guy, if someone that I disagree with 100% politically. You're not who I'm referring to here BTW either. What about Trump, his "policy positions," and his supporters is worth taking seriously or having genuine dialogue with?
Some perspectives don't deserve to be taken seriously. Supporting an ignorant thin-skinned bigoted misogynistic snake oil salesman for president falls into that category.I don't agree. I'm sure there are plenty that are Hillary supporters and some that don't follow politics at all. But carry on with looking down at them all.
Look, I know you are just trying to rile up Em and you mostly schtick but when you make blanket statements like that it really ruins any credibility you have. I "get" why you don't like Trump, just like I "get" why people don't like Hillary. As a republican I am not happy Trump is our nominee but I would rather have Trump win than the alternative in Hillary.If by "coming together" you mean giving the bigots who support Trump a place at the grown up table, then we're just going to disagree.
This is from the PPP poll is kind of amazing and encouraging for our country's future:Back on topic: Latest PPP poll in Texas is Trump (only) +6. Wow.
Trump's lead is based entirely on his holding a 63-33 advantage among seniors. With voters under 65, Clinton leads him 49-45. And when you look just specifically at voters under 45, Clinton leads Trump 60-35.
The comparisons to Zapp Brannigan are perfect.Let's do the update from the last week in quiz form. Can you spot the fake Trump quote?
1. “The only way they can beat it in my opinion, and I mean this 100 percent, if in certain sections of the state they cheat.”
2. "No, I meant [Obama's] the founder of ISIS I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton."
3. "If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."
4. "We don't win any more. You people (pointing to the crowd) definitely don't win anymore."
5. "It is not 'freedom of the press' when newspapers and others are allowed to say and write whatever they want even if it is completely false!"
Maaaaan, this thread is the bomb, and I don't care if Em names it *****OFFICIAL TRUMP NAMBLA HEADQUARTERS*****, I ain't going anywhere.Isn't there another Trump thread to bump that Eminence doesn't have the keys to?
Demographics is a #####...Trump's lead is based entirely on his holding a 63-33 advantage among seniors. With voters under 65, Clinton leads him 49-45. And when you look just specifically at voters under 45, Clinton leads Trump 60-35.
Well, yeah, there was definitely plenty of that. I find juvenile humor funny sometimes.It just seemed like an opportunity to pile on and make fun of a segment of society.
Trump supporters? They kind of deserve it at this point.It just seemed like an opportunity to pile on and make fun of a segment of society.
What policy blueprint do you feel Trump give the advantage over Hillary?Look, I know you are just trying to rile up Em and you mostly schtick but when you make blanket statements like that it really ruins any credibility you have. I "get" why you don't like Trump, just like I "get" why people don't like Hillary. As a republican I am not happy Trump is our nominee but I would rather have Trump win than the alternative in Hillary.
I am also warming up to the idea that Hillary winning (likely) will wake up America when they realize her policies will likely lead us into a recession. 8 years of amenic growth while massive Fed stimulation is concerning. The Fed is not raising rates now but will likely raise in December. With corporate earnings in a 5 quarter recession this might get ugly. Perhaps in 4 years the Republicans will walk into the white house with ease.
Eeny Meeny Miny MoeIs this really the "official" thread? You can't just keep creating a thread and saying it's "official"
It's Brexit demographics. The people with a handful of decades left on this planet are old, cranky and want to see the world burn.Trump's lead is based entirely on his holding a 63-33 advantage among seniors. With voters under 65, Clinton leads him 49-45. And when you look just specifically at voters under 45, Clinton leads Trump 60-35.
No. If you support Trump, then you are either a bigot yourself, or are OK with your candidate openly pandering to bigotry to further his political ends. Sorry if that offends you, but it's true, and it's how the vast majority of the country see it. If that "ruins my credibility" with out of touch blind right wing partisans, I'm OK with that.Look, I know you are just trying to rile up Em and you mostly schtick but when you make blanket statements like that it really ruins any credibility you have. I "get" why you don't like Trump, just like I "get" why people don't like Hillary. As a republican I am not happy Trump is our nominee but I would rather have Trump win than the alternative in Hillary.
I am also warming up to the idea that Hillary winning (likely) will wake up America when they realize her policies will likely lead us into a recession. 8 years of amenic growth while massive Fed stimulation is concerning. The Fed is not raising rates now but will likely raise in December. With corporate earnings in a 5 quarter recession this might get ugly. Perhaps in 4 years the Republicans will walk into the white house with ease.
1. Blanket statements are sometihng everyone is guilty of, and if we ran around qualifying everything we said, no one would get anything done. Unless you've never used the term 'liberals' before?Look, I know you are just trying to rile up Em and you mostly schtick but when you make blanket statements like that it really ruins any credibility you have. I "get" why you don't like Trump, just like I "get" why people don't like Hillary. As a republican I am not happy Trump is our nominee but I would rather have Trump win than the alternative in Hillary.
I am also warming up to the idea that Hillary winning (likely) will wake up America when they realize her policies will likely lead us into a recession. 8 years of amenic growth while massive Fed stimulation is concerning. The Fed is not raising rates now but will likely raise in December. With corporate earnings in a 5 quarter recession this might get ugly. Perhaps in 4 years the Republicans will walk into the white house with ease.
Corporate and individual tax reform, repeal Obamacare, resist raising minimum wage, not raising social security income tax. Not to mention National securityWhat policy blueprint do you feel Trump give the advantage over Hillary?
Wrong again, but you have proved that to be the case over and over. Carry onNo. If you support Trump, then you are either a bigot yourself, or are OK with your candidate openly pandering to bigotry to further his political ends. Sorry if that offends you, but it's true, and it's how the vast majority of the country see it. If that "ruins my credibility" with out of touch blind right wing partisans, I'm OK with that.
So, you don't think that getting rid of NAFTA and having a president that most other countries abhor and believe to be volatile wouldn't be more likely to cause a recession?Look, I know you are just trying to rile up Em and you mostly schtick but when you make blanket statements like that it really ruins any credibility you have. I "get" why you don't like Trump, just like I "get" why people don't like Hillary. As a republican I am not happy Trump is our nominee but I would rather have Trump win than the alternative in Hillary.
I am also warming up to the idea that Hillary winning (likely) will wake up America when they realize her policies will likely lead us into a recession. 8 years of amenic growth while massive Fed stimulation is concerning. The Fed is not raising rates now but will likely raise in December. With corporate earnings in a 5 quarter recession this might get ugly. Perhaps in 4 years the Republicans will walk into the white house with ease.
Wait, I thought he was okay with raising the minimum wage?Corporate and individual tax reform, repeal Obamacare, resist raising minimum wage. Not to mention National security
Yup and we're expected to respect this group and their ideology?No. If you support Trump, then you are either a bigot yourself, or are OK with your candidate openly pandering to bigotry to further his political ends. Sorry if that offends you, but it's true, and it's how the vast majority of the country see it. If that "ruins my credibility" with out of touch blind right wing partisans, I'm OK with that.
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump Aug 12
Eminence and many others seem upset that people are making fun of me. THEY DON'T GET SARCASM?
I can only compare what Hillary and Trump have said publicly regarding their proposed tax plans, etc. I agree more with Trump on those. Him saying stupid things gets him in trouble. Hillary committing perjury may get her in trouble.1. Blanket statements are sometihng everyone is guilty of, and if we ran around qualifying everything we said, no one would get anything done. Unless you've never used the term 'liberals' before?
2. Seriously, what do you think the chances are that Trump understands, or gives a flying fig, about your 2nd paragraph?