Official Donald Trump for President thread (4 Viewers)

[urbanhack]

Just because you're racist doesn't mean you won't vote for a handout.

so now they are automatically poor as well?

You are a real gem.

 

[Eligoesdeep]

so now they are automatically poor as well?

You are a real gem.

If you're in BLM and you're racist against white people then yes, you're most likely poor.

 

[urbanhack]

If you're in BLM and you're racist against white people then yes, you're most likely poor.

wow.  good to know.

 

[Card Trader]

wow.  good to know.

Doesn't all the evidence point to that?  Spare us the surprised shtick

 

[urbanhack]

Doesn't all the evidence point to that?  Spare us the surprised shtick

No.  Please unpack.   What evidence?

 

[TobiasFunke]

I do, that's an area both campaigns have serious crossover, the loser category.  Hillary's camp just has a much larger loser contingent, the type that constantly want a handout etc.

The small set of racist Trump supporters are most likely dwarfed by the amount of leeches on this nation that support illary.  Would you agree?

I don't consider most welfare recipients to be "leeches," but I really don't know. I promise I'd answer if I could or even if I had a decent guess, but I really have no idea.

Anyway, I'm more curious about why you equated the two. Do you consider these so-called "leeches" to be as bad as racists? 

And more importantly do you think Clinton has energized these "leeches" the way Trump has energized white supremacists?  Here's some evidence of it:

Energized white supremacists cheer Trump convention message

White nationalists see advancement through Donald Trump's candidacy

Inside a white nationalist conference energized by Trump's rise

White supremacist groups see "Trump bump"

Why white supremacist tugs thrill to Trump

I like to think you and I generally get along reasonably well considering we disagree on almost everything. So hopefully you'll believe me when I say I'm not trying to make you look bad or win internet message board points here or something. I'm genuinely asking- does this stuff concern or trouble you?  Because I don't mind saying it scares the hell out of me.

 

[urbanhack]

P.S.  hoods on or off today?

 

[Card Trader]

I don't consider most welfare recipients to be "leeches," but I really don't know. I promise I'd answer if I could or even if I had a decent guess, but I really have no idea.

Anyway, I'm more curious about why you equated the two. Do you consider these so-called "leeches" to be as bad as racists? 

And more importantly do you think Clinton has energized these "leeches" the way Trump has energized white supremacists?  Here's some evidence of it:

Energized white supremacists cheer Trump convention message

White nationalists see advancement through Donald Trump's candidacy

Inside a white nationalist conference energized by Trump's rise

White supremacist groups see "Trump bump"

Why white supremacist tugs thrill to Trump

I like to think you and I generally get along reasonably well considering we disagree on almost everything. So hopefully you'll believe me when I say I'm not trying to make you look bad or win internet message board points here or something. I'm genuinely asking- does this stuff concern or trouble you?  Because I don't mind saying it scares the hell out of me.

The racists are idiots, idiots had to pick a side and they picked the side that matches closest with their beliefs.  I think the racists want to build a wall to keep Mexicans out because they are Mexican, where as I think most supporters want the wall for the economic reasons and the problems that are caused by illegals (not brown skinned people).  It does suck to be lumped in with those idiots but I'm not going to vote for someone I nearly completely disagree with because some idiots are voting for the same person.

 

[TobiasFunke]

The racists are idiots, idiots had to pick a side and they picked the side that matches closest with their beliefs.  I think the racists want to build a wall to keep Mexicans out because they are Mexican, where as I think most supporters want the wall for the economic reasons and the problems that are caused by illegals (not brown skinned people).  It does suck to be lumped in with those idiots but I'm not going to vote for someone I nearly completely disagree with because some idiots are voting for the same person.

Thanks, totally reasonable.

Does the fact that they're getting "energized" and apparently seeing spikes in membership and traffic to their websites that seems attributable to Trump's candidacy concern you?  Is it along those same lines- unfortunate, but not so much that it would make you change your vote in order to tamp it down?

 

[Card Trader]

Thanks, totally reasonable.

Does the fact that they're getting "energized" and apparently seeing spikes in membership and traffic to their websites that seems attributable to Trump's candidacy concern you?  Is it along those same lines- unfortunate, but not so much that it would make you change your vote in order to tamp it down?

I think it concerns me a bit that they are being energized at all, but I think they'll just crawl back into their holes after the election...whichever candidate wins.  They are a dying breed and there isn't a place in society for them, regardless if they think Trump gives them a place or not (he doesn't IMO)

 

[the moops]

Oh make no mistake, if a black person were the nominee of either party they'd do the typical 99% vote

Ben Carson would have garnered 99% of the black vote?

 

[urbanhack]

Alan Keys?

 

[Nugget]

If you're in BLM and you're racist against white people then yes, you're most likely poor.

Disagree - a large portion of the protesters are college students - they aren't missing meals.

Mizzou was in the news last year at this time - their BLM leader - Jonathon Butler - literally the son of a railroad tycoon

At KU the leader is Caleb Stephens - he was adopted by a local family who runs the largest real estate agency in Lawrence, KS.  

Poor people have bigger problems than the lack of a safe space - they don't have time to protest.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Trump likes to make deals.  You'll see him making deals with voters to get their votes.

Old: We hate the GOPe always settling with Democrats, we never win anymore!

New: aren't these spending, mommy-care, tariff & amnesty proposals awesome? Deal maker gonna deal!

 

[sho nuff]

“The media has been her number one surrogate in this. Without the media, this wouldn’t even be a contest, but the media has built her up,” Trump Jr said. “They’ve let her slide on every indiscrepancy (sic), on every lie, on every DNC game trying to get Bernie Sanders out of this thing. If Republicans were doing that, they’d be warming up the gas chamber right now.” 

So...I guess its just a hereditary thing.  Complaining about things you get away with or do yourself.

Because...seems Trump slides on most lies and crap he does (or people get bored trying to get him to answer for it and just move on).

and yeah, the gas chamber thing was over the top stupid.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So...I guess its just a hereditary thing.  Complaining about things you get away with or do yourself.

Because...seems Trump slides on most lies and crap he does (or people get bored trying to get him to answer for it and just move on).

and yeah, the gas chamber thing was over the top stupid.

Wow. Did that just happen?

 

[Eligoesdeep]

So...I guess its just a hereditary thing.  Complaining about things you get away with or do yourself.

Because...seems Trump slides on most lies and crap he does (or people get bored trying to get him to answer for it and just move on).

and yeah, the gas chamber thing was over the top stupid.

So he makes a lot about the media being her surrogate and then they confirm that the joke is true when they lie about what he was joking about

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So he makes a lot about the media being her surrogate and then they confirm that the joke is true when they lie about what he was joking about

Gosh Donald is just goose stepping all over the liberal media, amiright? Hi-five! No need to actually slap, just put your hand in the air.

.......what?

 

[Joe Summer]

"Everything I say is a joke unless I tell you it's not a joke, in which case it still might be a joke depending on whether you're offended or not"

 

[Eligoesdeep]

"Everything I say is a joke unless I tell you it's not a joke, in which case it still might be a joke depending on whether you're offended or not"

lol, this post doesn't make sense

 

[Joe Summer]

lol, this post doesn't make sense

I was joking.

 

[The General]

Lots of black experts in here

 

[chauncey]

College kids reenact a page from the FFA Trump thread:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/social-justice-warrior-attacks-a-student-for-wearing-an-unsafe-hat-on-campus/85137790/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=page-posts&utm_campaign=sjw-students

Guess which one is Tim, which one is Squiz, and which one is dfsguy.

 

[The General]

More with the crying about the media. Every couple of pages it's good to bring that up.

 

[cstu]

I think it concerns me a bit that they are being energized at all, but I think they'll just crawl back into their holes after the election...whichever candidate wins.  They are a dying breed and there isn't a place in society for them, regardless if they think Trump gives them a place or not (he doesn't IMO)

It should concern you because a Trump victory would give them validation, not make them crawl back into their holes.

 

[timschochet]

Gosh Donald is just goose stepping all over the liberal media, amiright? Hi-five! No need to actually slap, just put your hand in the air.

.......what?

This is in poor taste. How can you Nazi that? 

 

[The General]

Trump likes to make deals.  You'll see him making deals with voters to get their votes.

Then he'll declare some type of bankruptcy and pay people pennies on the dollar.

 

[chauncey]

Scott Adams with another spot on blog post about the rise of Trump and the fall of Hillary:

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150449295541/when-reality-turned-inside-out

Do you remember way—-way—-way—back in July, when the public thought Trump was the candidate they couldn’t trust with the nuclear arsenal? That was before we realized he could moderate his personality on command, as he is doing now. We’re about to enter our fifth consecutive week of Trump doing more outreach than outrage.

It turns out that Trump’s base personality is “winning.” Everything else he does is designed to get that result. He needed to be loud and outrageous in the primaries, so he was. He needs to be presidential in this phase of the election cycle, so he is. 

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton has revealed herself to be frail, medicated, and probably duplicitous about her health. We also hear reports that she’s a drinker with a bad temper. Suddenly, Clinton looks like the unstable personality in this race. Who do you want controlling the nuclear arsenal now?

You probably thought Trump was the bigot in this contest, until Clinton called half of Trump’s supporters a “basket of deplorables.” That’s the point at which observers started to see a pattern. Trump has been consistently supportive of American citizens of all types – with the exception of the press and his political opponents. The main targets of Trump’s rhetoric are the nations that compete against us. In stark contrast, Clinton turned her hate on American citizens. That’s the realkind of hate. Trump is more about keeping America safe and competing effectively in the world. That is literally the job of president.

Trump was once the candidate that the LGBTQ community found easy to hate. Then it turned out that Trump is the loudest voice for protecting America against the anti-gay ideology that Clinton would increase in this country via immigration. At the GOP convention, Republicans stood and applauded Trump’s full-throated support of the LGBTQ community. While Clinton was talking about a better society, Trump was transforming the Republican Party into one. (Yes, I know there is more to do.)

You might remember a few months ago when Clinton had lots of policy details and Trump had few. Clinton still holds the lead in the number of bullet-points-per-policy, but while she rests, Trump has been rolling out policy details on one topic after another. Perception-wise, the optics of “who has policy details” has flipped. (Reality isn’t important in this context.)

Do you remember over a year ago, when Trump first entered the race? Social media relentlessly insulted his physical appearance. They mocked his orange hair and his orange skin. They called him a clown. They called him a Cheeto. It was brutal.

But over time, Trump’s haircut improved. He softened the color to something more blonde than orange And his fake tan and TV makeup improved too. Today, if you ask a voter to name the candidate for president who “looks bad,” the answer would probably be Clinton, primarily because of her recent health issues. In our minds, Clinton went from being a stylish and energetic personality to a hospice patient dressed like a North Korean dictator at a rave.

Not long ago, you would have said Clinton was the strongest candidate for protecting citizens who need the help of social programs. Then Trump unveiled his plan for childcare and senior care. You can debate the details, and the cost, but nearly everyone recognized the idea as a critical need for working class people.

In other words, the world is turning inside-out, right in front of our eyes. I summarized this surprising reversal in the most popular tweet I have ever created.

That’s how a Master Persuader does it. A year ago, I told you that Trump was bringing a flamethrower to a stick fight. His talent for persuasion is so strong that he has effectively flipped the script and rewired the brains of the people watching this show.

But I’ll bet you still think Trump is “thin-skinned,” primarily because Clinton’s team has done a great job of branding him that way. The label sticks because Trump has a pattern of going on offense whenever he is attacked. But let me give you another framework to see this same set of facts. Specifically, I’m going to tell you how Master Persuaders convert embarrassment into energy. It’s a learned skill.

I often talk about the benefits I got from taking the Dale Carnegie course. One of the skills you learn in that class is how to convert your anxiousness about public speaking into excitement and positive energy. I personally observed the Dale Carnegie course turning a few dozen introverts into people who were enthusiastic about speaking in front of a crowd. It was astonishing.

Part of the Dale Carnegie process involved each student doing something embarrassing in front of the class just to get used to the feeling, and to know you could survive it. It is one of the best skills you can learn because our egos tend to hold us back. We fear embarrassment so we don’t risk it. That limits our potential.

Now think back to 2011, at the Correspondent’s Dinner, in which President Obama mocked Donald Trump in front of the world – while Trump sat in the audience, stone-faced. The popular reporting was that Trump was humiliated by the event. But Master Persuaders don’t process humiliation the same way as others. They convert it to energy, the same way Dale Carnegie students learn to convert anxiousness to excitement. It’s a learned skill. And it is literally the opposite of having a thin skin. It only looks the same because of confirmation bias.

How do I know Trump has mastered the skill of converting humiliation into energy? The signs are all there. For example…

Trump has entered one high-risk business after another, guaranteeing that he would experience a large number of setbacks, failures, and humiliations. People don’t run toward humiliation unless they know they can convert that negative energy to fuel. When you see someone succeed across multiple unrelated fields, that’s often a sign of a Master Persuader who feeds on both success and failure. You are watching Trump do exactly that, right in front of your eyes. He has converted every “gaffe” into news coverage. He eats bad news and converts it into fuel.

Many of you have watched me do the same thing. You’ve watched as I jumped fields from corporate America to cartooning. Then I became an author of business-related books. I opened two restaurants that didn’t work out. I tried lots of stuff that failed miserably. Now I’m talking about the presidential election. What do all of those things have in common?

I risked public humiliation in each case. 

And in each case, lots of people told me “Keep your day job.” On a typical day, dozens of strangers insult my body, my personality, my brain, my integrity, and lots more. Like Trump, I consume it as fuel. And it is a learned skill.

You might have noticed that both Trump and I are quick to attack anyone who attacks us. Observers tell me I shouldn’t do that, because it makes me appear thin-skinned. Observers tell Trump the same thing. But observers are missing one important thing: We use the critics to refuel

If you were an alien from another planet, and you observed a lion killing a gazelle, you might think that lion was angry at its prey. You might think the lion was insulted that the gazelle was using its watering hole. What did the gazelle do to deserve that treatment? Is the lion being thin-skinned?

Trust me when I tell you that sometimes the lion is just eating.

But over time, Trump’s haircut improved. He softened the color to something more blonde than orange And his fake tan and TV makeup improved too. Today, if you ask a voter to name the candidate for president who “looks bad,” the answer would probably be Clinton, primarily because of her recent health issues. In our minds, Clinton went from being a stylish and energetic personality to a hospice patient dressed like a North Korean dictator at a rave.

 

[massraider]

At least an admitted racist, I can understand why they are voting Trump.  That makes sense.  Heck, if you're a racist, this is exciting times.  

If you aren't a racist, I have no idea why you might support him.  

 

[cstu]

 Perception-wise, the optics of “who has policy details” has flipped. (Reality isn’t important in this context.)

You probably thought Trump was the bigot in this contest, until Clinton called half of Trump’s supporters a “basket of deplorables.” That’s the point at which observers started to see a pattern. Trump has been consistently supportive of American citizens of all types – with the exception of the press and his political opponents. The main targets of Trump’s rhetoric are the nations that compete against us.

OK, Scott.

 

[Daywalker]

At least an admitted racist, I can understand why they are voting Trump.  That makes sense.  Heck, if you're a racist, this is exciting times.  

If you aren't a racist, I have no idea why you might support him.  

Maybe they are sexist?

I mean the poster child for sexual harassment is Roger Ailes yet Trump just brought him into his camp to help out.

This is a Mel Brook's play.

 

[cstu]

Economists: Trump's economic plan depends on unrealistic 4% growth.

I thought that sounded familiar and turns out it was:

Paul Krugman: Romney’s Unrealistic Plan Relies On His ‘Awesome Awesomeness’

SSDC.

 

[Daywalker]

The Trump movie is going to be amazing.

Lewandowski:  You watching the tv?  Fox just canned Ailes.  ####### Gretchen Carlson.  She wasn't even that hot.

Trump:  Can we hire him?

 

[Don't Noonan]

At least an admitted racist, I can understand why they are voting Trump.  That makes sense.  Heck, if you're a racist, this is exciting times.  

If you aren't a racist, I have no idea why you might support him.  

We get it, you are close minded and can't see the big picture.  Hillary can do no wrong.  Let's keep rolling with GDP under 3% because the economy is doing fantastic!  

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I like Trump's economic plan

-Lift sequestration, spend like a Sailor on Sailors

-Lower individual tax rates, go with theoretical economics that says money works its way back into the market when studies have shown it only makes a marginal impact

-Improve infrastructure, spend on roads and bridges which I agree is long overdue.  However if you're doing the above two things, there is no money to do any of this!!!! So don't do the above!

-Budget balanced with consumers spending all their tax savings on dildos and turkey gizzards

On top of that he said the Fed's decisions are completely politically-driven and that Obama doesn't want interests rates raised because it'll ruin his legacy.  Somehow 45% of the population is buying this, because they are terrible at math.  ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

 

[Bucky86]

I like Trump's economic plan

-Lift sequestration, spend like a Sailor on Sailors

-Lower individual tax rates, go with theoretical economics that says money works its way back into the market when studies have shown it only makes a marginal impact

-Improve infrastructure, spend on roads and bridges which I agree is long overdue.  However if you're doing the above two things, there is no money to do any of this!!!! So don't do the above!

-Budget balanced with consumers spending all their tax savings on dildos and turkey gizzards

On top of that he said the Fed's decisions are completely politically-driven and that Obama doesn't want interests rates raised because it'll ruin his legacy.  Somehow 45% of the population is buying this, because they are terrible at math.  ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

But our military would be ####### AWESOME!!!!

 

[massraider]

We get it, you are close minded and can't see the big picture.  Hillary can do no wrong.  Let's keep rolling with GDP under 3% because the economy is doing fantastic!  

Oh man, you going Trump because you think he can improve the economy? 

I think you're in over your head in this thread.  

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I like Trump's economic plan

-Lift sequestration, spend like a Sailor on Sailors

-Lower individual tax rates, go with theoretical economics that says money works its way back into the market when studies have shown it only makes a marginal impact

-Improve infrastructure, spend on roads and bridges which I agree is long overdue.  However if you're doing the above two things, there is no money to do any of this!!!! So don't do the above!

-Budget balanced with consumers spending all their tax savings on dildos and turkey gizzards

On top of that he said the Fed's decisions are completely politically-driven and that Obama doesn't want interests rates raised because it'll ruin his legacy.  Somehow 45% of the population is buying this, because they are terrible at math.  ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

But our military would be ####### AWESOME!!!!

It's already better than everyone else by a mile.

Somehow I live in the most liberal state in the union and I have to deal with Trump supporter's galore where I live.  Tonight I was talking to what I thought was a completely reasonable guy who told me "Obama ruined this country so bad, that we'll never recover."  I asked him for examples and he said, "you'll see."  What will I see?   

This country is doing great, it really is.  We have our problems, we have always had problems and I can name them during every year since Seventeen Seventy ####### Six.  It's not the end of the world, things that happen in months and years are not what is happening over decades. 

He said that more police officer's were being killed in the line of duty than any other time in our country.  Any other time since 1800?  Since 1870?  Since 1970?  I work in LE, every death of a sworn officer makes me sick but don't Hannity me up.  Get your facts straight and stop being brainwashed by the alt right agenda and maybe, just maybe you'll live a less paranoid delusional life. 

 

[chauncey]

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo#now

The FFA's favorite prognosticator now has Trump's chance of winning the election at 43.3%.

Up 18 points since Saturday.

A month ago Trump was in single digits.

Unbelievable. 

 

[Bucky86]

It's already better than everyone else by a mile.

Somehow I live in the most liberal state in the union and I have to deal with Trump supporter's galore where I live.  Tonight I was talking to what I thought was a completely reasonable guy who told me "Obama ruined this country so bad, that we'll never recover."  I asked him for examples and he said, "you'll see."  What will I see?   

This country is doing great, it really is.  We have our problems, we have always had problems and I can name them during every year since Seventeen Seventy ####### Six.  It's not the end of the world, things that happen in months and years are not what is happening over decades. 

He said that more police officer's were being killed in the line of duty than any other time in our country.  Any other time since 1800?  Since 1870?  Since 1970?  I work in LE, every death of a sworn officer makes me sick but don't Hannity me up.  Get your facts straight and stop being brainwashed by the alt right agenda and maybe, just maybe you'll live a less paranoid delusional life. 

I dunno man. I want frigging laser guns and bombs that shoot out mini attack robots to cut off ISIS members balls.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I dunno man. I want frigging laser guns and bombs that shoot out mini attack robots to cut off ISIS members balls.

Design it, you'll make billions and people like me will come to watch the demo. 

KING ME!

 

[lod001]

You have allied yourself with white nationalists determined to limit the rights of minorities. Are you comfortable being aligned with them?

 

[Riversco]

I like Trump's economic plan

-Lift sequestration, spend like a Sailor on Sailors

-Lower individual tax rates, go with theoretical economics that says money works its way back into the market when studies have shown it only makes a marginal impact

-Improve infrastructure, spend on roads and bridges which I agree is long overdue.  However if you're doing the above two things, there is no money to do any of this!!!! So don't do the above!

-Budget balanced with consumers spending all their tax savings on dildos and turkey gizzards

On top of that he said the Fed's decisions are completely politically-driven and that Obama doesn't want interests rates raised because it'll ruin his legacy.  Somehow 45% of the population is buying this, because they are terrible at math.  ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

Trump will pay for it all by being friends with russia which allows him to cut the military budget by 50%

 

[trogg78]

Trump will pay for it all by being friends with russia which allows him to cut the military budget by 50%

He isn't Russia's friend, he's their #####.

 

[Riversco]

Personally i think 2020 will be hillary vs rubio.  Kasich might be nominee but i think rubio will beat him. Trumps failure will ensure no one will nominate a fringe candidate. 

 

[culdeus]

Ryan has been setting up for 2020 for a long time.

 

[Riversco]

Ryan has been setting up for 2020 for a long time.

Maybe but i think by 2020 he will be too much of an insider to win. He will basically be the face of the republican party. He will probably have been embroiled in a fight over the obamacare crisis for a few years and theyll look for someone less attached to that fight. 

 

[Riversco]

Democrats will need someone to blame in congress for obamacare going wrong and they will stick that on Ryan. By 2020 his negatives will be sky high thanks to getting pretty much zero support from democrats. I doubt hell even run. 

 

[timschochet]

Personally i think 2020 will be hillary vs rubio.  Kasich might be nominee but i think rubio will beat him. Trumps failure will ensure no one will nominate a fringe candidate. 

No offense, but given your track record it makes me VERY nervous that you're assuming Hillary will win. Can't you back to picking Trump?

 

[Riversco]

The theme for the democrats for the next 4 years is that hillary can fix obamacare but ryan and the gop wont let her because they are crazy.      Repubicans will argue the fix is no good and will try offering vague fixes but nothing concrete so they can say they tried to fix it without getting pinned down on too many proposals.