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timschochet said:
Really hoping that climate change is brought up at the debates. It's a pretty important issue, and the public should be exposed to Trump's total ignorance on the subject.
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not only is he a climate change denier, he is pushing the conspiracy theory that china invented the global warming concept to hurt US manufacturing. 

 
timschochet said:
Really hoping that climate change is brought up at the debates. It's a pretty important issue, and the public should be exposed to Trump's total ignorance on the subject.
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I wonder if it's politically expedient to not bring those issues up.  A critical thinker who understands climate change is real and vaccines save lives is likely to decide their vote on other issues.  An anti-vaccine person is probably a single-issue voter, and a climate change denyer is likely so easily duped they are already baked into Trump's poll numbers.

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
I wonder if it's politically expedient to not bring those issues up.  A critical thinker who understands climate change is real and vaccines save lives is likely to decide their vote on other issues.  An anti-vaccine person is probably a single-issue voter, and a climate change denyer is likely so easily duped they are already baked into Trump's poll numbers.
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I think there are a lot of independent voters out there who are simply unaware of Trump's ignorance on these issues, and with climate change it might have a significant impact on the voting.

 
twitting with diff trump supporters I realized liberals are missing an important point, facts don't matter, its emotions that win elections. 

the fact that Hillary had pneumonia falls on deaf ears, the emotion that the video stirs up is more valuable in getting votes. 

 
Sebowski said:
:doh: Did Trump really say that? No ####### way he really said that. Did he really say that? 
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"Our government has totally failed our African American friends, our Hispanic friends and the people of our country. Period," Trump said in Akron, Ohio, straying from the prepared remarks the campaign provided to reporters. "The Democrats have failed completely in the inner cities. For those hurting the most who have been failed and failed by their politician — year after year, failure after failure, worse numbers after worse numbers. Poverty. Rejection. Horrible education. No housing, no homes, no ownership. Crime at levels that nobody has seen. You can go to war zones in countries that we are fighting and it's safer than living in some of our inner cities that are run by the Democrats. And I ask you this, I ask you this — crime, all of the problems — to the African Americans, who I employ so many, so many people, to the Hispanics, tremendous people: What the hell do you have to lose? Give me a chance. I'll straighten it out. I'll straighten it out. What do you have to lose?"
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Bruce Dickinson said:
Trump is a climate-change denyer and anti-vaccine, either of which should be immediately disqualifying for the presidency.  Neither has really been brought up because of all the worse things he is.
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:lmao:

Is it global cooling?

Or global warming?

Or climate change?

I have a hard time keeping up as you guys move the goal posts. 

 
chauncey said:
:lmao:

Is it global cooling?

Or global warming?

Or climate change?

I have a hard time keeping up as you guys move the goal posts. 
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It is very important to understand that climate change is not a political pawn.  It's scientific consensus.

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/  

Overall the global temperature is rising, which is where the term "global warming" comes from.  But another of the effects of humans dumping a ####load of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere is increased intensity of extreme weather events.  So big rainfalls are bigger, big snowfalls are bigger, giant storm systems like Hurricane Katrina get supercharged.  

Vote for whomever you think is best for the country.  But for the sake of the future of humankind, please get informed on climate change.  It's off-putting when you get a bunch of basic facts wrong and show no interest or remorse from your mistakes.  But a lot that #### is trivial.  This one isn't.   

I get that at your core you're a Democrat who has created this obnoxious, ignorant character to try to make Trump and his supporters look like such idiots there's no logical option to vote for Hillary, but joking around about climate change is a wee bit too dangerous.

 
chauncey said:
Is it global cooling?

Or global warming?

Or climate change?

I have a hard time keeping up as you guys move the goal posts. 
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Global cooling is a boogeyman invented by conservatives in the 1970s. There's never been any evidence that modern society is experiencing a global cooling trend.

But go ahead and cite that one non-scientific magazine article from the 1970s that will "prove me wrong".

 
Eligoesdeep said:
People without Asperger's Syndrome can tell when Trump is joking around and being sarcastic. Seems like everyone in the press is either a liar or they all have Asperger's Syndrome.
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This is assinine. Who in their right mind wants a President who uses sarcasm as a means of communication on a regular basis? It's senseless garbage

 
The General said:
Hey conspiracy guys. Trump not releasing his taxes because of NAMBLA is all over the place. Please chew on that one for awhile.

It is a very serious and pressing issue that we must get to the bottom of.
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Loathe Trump, and am voting Hillary...but this kind of garbage helps nothing. It's every bit as bad as the crap coming from Trump and his camp.

 
Stop Whining About 'False Balance'


Everyone wants to blame reporters for the rise of Donald Trump. How about the media consumer?

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/stop-whining-about-false-balance-w440228


How Donald Trump Lost His Mojo


Flailing on race and immigration, his campaign in chaos, the candidate who made a brilliant farce of the election is now finding the joke is on him (this second, earlier article by Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone from just 9/6 already is dated and seems like an eternity ago, but a Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing-type report from the trenches of Trump's campaign) 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-donald-trump-lost-his-mojo-w438162

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
It is very important to understand that climate change is not a political pawn.  It's scientific consensus.

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/  

Overall the global temperature is rising, which is where the term "global warming" comes from.  But another of the effects of humans dumping a ####load of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere is increased intensity of extreme weather events.  So big rainfalls are bigger, big snowfalls are bigger, giant storm systems like Hurricane Katrina get supercharged.  

Vote for whomever you think is best for the country.  But for the sake of the future of humankind, please get informed on climate change.  It's off-putting when you get a bunch of basic facts wrong and show no interest or remorse from your mistakes.  But a lot that #### is trivial.  This one isn't.   

I get that at your core you're a Democrat who has created this obnoxious, ignorant character to try to make Trump and his supporters look like such idiots there's no logical option to vote for Hillary, but joking around about climate change is a wee bit too dangerous.
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Good lord...."joking around about climate change is a wee bit too dangerous" 

I'm hoping that was just joking around...

....everything seems to be "dangerous" this election year

 
Aw, poor little Donald. Did someone say something bad about you and hurt your little feelings?

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 14h14 hours ago Oklahoma, USA
Never met but never liked dopey Robert Gates.
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 20h20 hours ago
Crazy Maureen Dowd, the wacky columnist for the failing @nytimes, pretends she knows me well--wrong!
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Sep 17
.@CNN just doesn't get it, and that's why their ratings are so low - and getting worse. Boring anti-Trump panelists, mostly losers in life!
This one makes me laugh. The truth is likely just the opposite. He wants to sue and the lawyers said no (for now). And WTF exactly is "irresponsible intent" anyway? Not sure that even exists. "Best Words!"

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago
My lawyers want to sue the failing @nytimes so badly for irresponsible intent. I said no (for now), but they are watching. Really disgusting
 
I see where he got "irresponsible intent" from? Replies to his call for people to shoot Clinton:

Angela C. Johnson ‏@Akoma0224 Aug 9
@realDonaldTrump intent is irrelevant. The repercussions of what he SAID is very relevant. Dangerous. Irresponsible. DISQUALIFYING
Barry Wark ‏@barryjwark Aug 9
Getting dangerously close to joking about a fire in a crowded theatre. Irresponsible no mater the intent.
Kelsey Cavazos ‏@Sp1ffyJ1ffy Aug 10
Regardless of intent (sounded like a call for assassination to me) you can't say things with an open interpretation. It's irresponsible.
 
just watched chris christie on CNN.

this is what i got from him. trump ended the false narrative that Obama was not born here and now were pushing the new false narrative that Clinton started it.

 
renesauz said:
Loathe Trump, and am voting Hillary...but this kind of garbage helps nothing. It's every bit as bad as the crap coming from Trump and his camp.
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Do you get that it's a joke? 

There are people who say it's Obamas fault that people are birthers because he couldn't prove to them something that isn't true. Trump being one of the most vocal guys.

Trump constantly says things that are made up or just nonsense and his proof is "many people say".

So if many people are saying that Trump donates to NAMBLA and all he has to do is release his taxes to prove these awful things aren't true. What is he hiding? See how that works?

Maybe some rich liberal could come along and donate say 5 million for proof that Trump isn't a NAMBLA member? 

 
The General said:
Do you get that it's a joke? 

There are people who say it's Obamas fault that people are birthers because he couldn't prove to them something that isn't true. Trump being one of the most vocal guys.

Trump constantly says things that are made up or just nonsense and his proof is "many people say".

So if many people are saying that Trump donates to NAMBLA and all he has to do is release his taxes to prove these awful things aren't true. What is he hiding? See how that works?

Maybe some rich liberal could come along and donate say 5 million for proof that Trump isn't a NAMBLA member? 
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Do you get that you look like an idiot doing this?

Now I'm not calling you an idiot because I know from seeing you post here that you clearly are not and most likely moderately intelligent. But trying to be too cool for school with this crap makes you look idiotic. I'm telling you , believe me , I know. An idiot.

 
HellToupee said:
Do you get that you look like an idiot doing this?

Now I'm not calling you an idiot because I know from seeing you post here that you clearly are not and most likely moderately intelligent. But trying to be too cool for school with this crap makes you look idiotic. I'm telling you , believe me , I know. An idiot.
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:lol:  disagree GB.

I think the NAMBLA meme is perfect to illustrate how nuts Donald is. I only hope it popped up on one of Trump's "news sites" and he did a double take.

 
whitem0nkey said:
now were pushing the new false narrative that Clinton started it.
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Just read an article that is blaming 2008 Clinton supporters. I wonder where they got the idea. Maybe it was the photo the Clinton campaign showing Obama in Muslim dress and a photo of Obama calling him Harvard's first Kenyan born law president. 

 
Dexter said:
Just read an article that is blaming 2008 Clinton supporters. I wonder where they got the idea. Maybe it was the photo the Clinton campaign showing Obama in Muslim dress and a photo of Obama calling him Harvard's first Kenyan born law president. 
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Is it that easy to fool Trump? He went with that for what 7, 8 years :lol:  Put up his own money as "reward", sent "investigators" to Hawaii. What an ultra maroon.

Where is he on the moon landing? Earth roundness? 

 
jerry jones said:
Good lord...."joking around about climate change is a wee bit too dangerous" 

I'm hoping that was just joking around...

....everything seems to be "dangerous" this election year
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There's a lot of room for disagreement on economic policy, foreign policy, what laws to enforce and prioritize, etc., and there's a lot of guesswork within those because a lot of social science is based on rational actors making rational decisions, which doesn't happen in real life.

Global warming is real no matter what.  There isn't any meaningful disagreement on it.  

 
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3C's said:
Aw, poor little Donald. Did someone say something bad about you and hurt your little feelings?

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 14h14 hours ago Oklahoma, USA
Never met but never liked dopey Robert Gates.
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 20h20 hours ago
Crazy Maureen Dowd, the wacky columnist for the failing @nytimes, pretends she knows me well--wrong!
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Sep 17
.@CNN just doesn't get it, and that's why their ratings are so low - and getting worse. Boring anti-Trump panelists, mostly losers in life!
This one makes me laugh. The truth is likely just the opposite. He wants to sue and the lawyers said no (for now). And WTF exactly is "irresponsible intent" anyway? Not sure that even exists. "Best Words!"

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago
My lawyers want to sue the failing @nytimes so badly for irresponsible intent. I said no (for now), but they are watching. Really disgusting
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Has he ever commented on Tony Schwartz, the ghostwriter of The Art of the Deal?  Schwartz spent 18 months with him and says he's clearly a sociopath.

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
There's a lot of room for disagreement on economic policy, foreign policy, what laws to enforce and prioritize, etc., and there's a lot of guesswork within those because a lot of social science is based on rational actors making rational decisions, which doesn't happen in real life.

Global warming is real no matter how you think about it.
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What you say is true...I'm just having difficulties with how easy (IMO)people in these political threads throw out that word "dangerous"

way overused

 
As to the claim that people throw around the word 'dangerous' during campaigns, please find me one example of anyone saying McCain (prior to choosing Palin) or Romney were dangerous. 

 
If Trump states Clinton started the "Birther", maybe he deserves the benefit of the doubt. It isn't like he has ever said anything spectacularly flaky before, like accusing a Republican opponent's father of being behind the JFK assassination plot.*

Trump, Grand Wizard of Birtherism

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/opinion/trump-grand-wizard-of-birtherism.html?_r=0  

Donald Trump, master fabulist

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/05/02/donald-trump-master-fabulist/?utm_term=.aa4bbf3aa530

* Edit/add - Implied, insinuated, innuendo about a (non-existent) connection might be a more accurate and better characterization. No less insane (or need to split hairs on how insane). Bottom line it wasn't true, but that didn't stop Trump from running with a National Enquirer story he claims should be a "respected" journalistic source.

 
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Bob Magaw said:
If Trump states Clinton started the "Birther", maybe he deserves the benefit of the doubt. It isn't like he has ever said anything spectacularly flaky before, like accusing a Republican opponent's father of being behind the JFK assassination plot.   
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He never said Cruz's father was behind the plot. He made a stupid comment but he didn't say that.

 
Fact check: Trump defends claim on Oswald and Cruz's father

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/07/23/fact-check-trump-lee-harvey-oswald-rafael-cruz/87475714/

"Goldstone told us in a phone interview that he never claimed the man in the picture with Oswald was definitely Rafael Cruz, and he called Trump’s unqualified assertion that it is Cruz “stupid.”"

“All I did is point out the fact that on the cover of the National Enquirer, there’s a picture of him [Rafael Cruz] and crazy Lee Harvey Oswald having breakfast,” Trump said. “I had nothing to do with it. This was a magazine that frankly in many respects, should be very respected. They got O.J. They got Edwards. They got this. I mean, if that was The New York Times, they would have gotten Pulitzer prizes for their reporting.”

Although Trump said the photo showed the two “having breakfast,” the picture in question actually shows Oswald distributing pro-Castro literature in New Orleans in August 1963, a few months prior to Kennedy’s assassination in Dallas. According to the Miami Herald, another man in the picture was never identified by the Warren Commission, whose investigation concluded Kennedy was assassinated by Oswald and that Oswald acted alone.

In his post-convention remarks, Trump said the whole issue “had nothing to do with me, except I might have pointed it out.” No “might” about it. Trump did “point it out” on national TV, and he definitively proclaimed the man in the picture to be Rafael Cruz, even though the text of the National Enquirer story doesn’t go quite that far.

Trump went on to say that neither Cruz nor anyone in his camp ever denied that it was Rafael Cruz in the photo.

“Now, Ted never denied that it was his father,” Trump said in his post-convention remarks, adding later, “But they never denied. Did anybody ever deny that it was the father? They’re not saying, ‘Oh, that’s not really my father.’ It’s little hard to do. It looks like him.”

In fact, they have.

“This is another garbage story in a tabloid full of garbage,” Communications Director Alice Stewart told McClatchy. “The story is false; that is not Rafael in the picture.”

“It’s ludicrous, it’s ludicrous,” Rafael Cruz told ABC News on May 3. “I was never in New Orleans at that time.”

Ted Cruz dismissed the Enquirer story as “idiotic” and called Trump a “pathological liar” who is “utterly amoral” and a “bully.”

“Donald Trump alleges that my dad was involved in the assassinating JFK,” Cruz said. “Now, let’s be clear, this is nuts. This is not a responsible position. This is just kooky.”

 
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