Official Donald Trump for President thread (5 Viewers)

[mquinnjr]

Agreed Donald dropped the ball.  Holt's questions were clearly slanted negative towards Trump, not sure why he didn't think it was appropriate to bring up Clinton Foundation, Pay for play etc, but Trump's taxes were super important? 

He could've easily turned that around to her reluctance to release her paid speaking arrangement transcripts for Wall St. while she rails against these banks on her platform and whiffed. Instead he said how he's glad he doesn't pay more in taxes. Terrible phrasing. I get what he's saying, but you're expecting the average voter to understand the tax code and not think he's playing games with his taxes, where even if he's 100% above board he hasn't proven it and she's right, let your mind wander in the absence of details.

 

[The General]

Yes.  When doesn't he want to talk about himself?

He hasn't said **** all about his foundation since people started asking him about why it appears he is using it's money to buy oil paintings of himself, Tim Tebow footballs, and paying off fines that he has collected.

 

[Card Trader]

When he's asked how much he paid in taxes in 2015.

That was his best moment of the night

 

[rodg12]

That was his best moment of the night

No, no it wasn't.  The idiot said it was good business that he didn't pay income tax.

 

[tommyboy]

Apparently they are if he refuses to release them.

Why release your taxes if you know the opposition is just going to use it as a hammer? I wouldn't either.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Trump has never used a computer.  He's simply incapable of talking about cyber security in any sort of intelligent way.

The obvious answer here was "well one easy thing we can do to keep our country more secure is not store sensitive government emails on an insecure personal server".

It was such a softball.

 

[mquinnjr]

No, no it wasn't.  The idiot said it was good business that he didn't pay income tax.

I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant he pays the minimum allowable by the tax code, in which case he's correct in terms of tax efficiency. There weren't 95 million CPA's watching this tonight, and that's a sound byte he served up on a silver platter of bad phrasing for any and all detractors.

 

[The General]

Why release your taxes if you know the opposition is just going to use it as a hammer? I wouldn't either.

The guy who demands Obama show his different birth certificates probably deserves to take it in the ### when it comes to not releasing his taxes.

 

[[scooter]]

Apparently they are if he refuses to release them.

Why release your taxes if you know the opposition is just going to use it as a hammer? I wouldn't either.

If your candidacy is so weak that it could be hammered by your own tax returns..........just a thought here......but.........maybe you shouldn't be running for President?

 

[mquinnjr]

Why release your taxes if you know the opposition is just going to use it as a hammer? I wouldn't either.

At this point, he's cooked if he releases or withholds. He held out too long even if he is in the right, which I have to assume at this point absent delivery of the returns he isn't.

 

[mquinnjr]

If your candidacy is so weak that it could be hammered by your own tax returns..........just a thought here......but.........maybe you shouldn't be running for President?

Beat me to it. It's a completely fair question 5 weeks out.

 

[rodg12]

The obvious answer here was "well one easy thing we can do to keep our country more secure is not store sensitive government emails on an insecure personal server".

It was such a softball.

See, a person would have to actually prepare to say something like that.  Or know what a insecure personal email server is.  Or say it without stumbling over the words.

This is a dude that thinks the military should 'keep things off the wires and deliver messages in person.'

 

[rodg12]

Why release your taxes if you know the opposition is just going to use it as a hammer? I wouldn't either.

It's a hammer without releasing them.  So, he's ####ed either way.  People are saying he donated to NAMBLA after all...

I really wish Hillary would have called him out on the hypocrisy of not releasing them when he demanded Obama release his birth certificate.   Like The General said.

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

HOLT: ...the issue of your e-mails. Do you want to respond to that?

CLINTON: I do. You know, I made a mistake using a private e-mail.

TRUMP: That's for sure.

CLINTON: And if I had to do it over again, I would, obviously, do it differently. But I'm not going to make any excuses. It was a mistake, and I take responsibility for that.

This is proof that trial and error works. She tried every other kind of response over the past however many months and finally arrived on taking responsibility without excuses. Of course, the fact she tried everything else she could think of first kind of undermines the credibility of this reply now, but at least she finally got there.

It is still BS, but it is now PR Approved(tm) BS.

 

[[scooter]]

"Why release your Goldman Sachs speech transcripts if you know the opposition is just going to use it as a hammer? I wouldn't either."

 

[The General]

How do Trumpettes explain the global warming chinese hoax thing? 

 

[cstu]

It is such a shame Trump is, well Trump.  Our political system is so in need of an enema, and for a brief gleaming moment I thought Trump might be someone that could do it and speak some truth to the people in power.  Now we are destined to get more of the same and head down this road where professional liars, eerrrrr politicians, tell us what we want to hear and then don't do any of it.  In the end we get what we deserve / want / makes us feel good?  Just don't get why we can't get a politician that can cut thru the crap and actually try to fix a problem.  Just one.  There are actual serious problems our country has and I don't think Trump could wrap his brain around them and I am convinced personally that Hillary just don't give a #### about it other than how it effects her polls etc.  I have a hat I have been seasoning for some time that I will eat if she solves or reverses the direction of one major problem we face, by her actions, when she becomes President.  I laughed all night at the debate but at this point it is just so I don't have to think about the next four years. 

I'll ask again - what was wrong with Kasich?

 

[cstu]

See, a person would have to actually prepare to say something like that.  Or know what a insecure personal email server is.  Or say it without stumbling over the words.

This is a dude that thinks the military should 'keep things off the wires and deliver messages in person.'

We need to do more about cyber.

 

[The General]

We need to do more about cyber.

Trump is working with his son on this. Secret plans being written in crayon as we speak.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

So Trump looked like a know-nothing idiot in the debate. I assume this means he'll be up 5 nationally in next week's polling.

 

[cockroach]

Winning Temperament = complaining how a girl is being mean to you.

 

[Daywalker]

Is Trump ok?  So thirsty.  Can't go 10 minutes without water.  Diabetes?

 

[Daywalker]

The guy pays no taxes and wants tax cuts for people like him.  Jesus.  Are you idiots?

 

[The Future Champs]

LOL at the ####### idiots referring to the birther questions as "garbage".   Your boy rode that pony as far as he could, and in the end he was displayed as the fool.  I mean, ya know, SURPRISE!, Obama released his long form birth certificate.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Here is what's funny and I'll admit HRC did a good job last night but unfortunately for HRC and her supporters...probably won't move the poll numbers much if at all. Trump supporters or anyone that is thinking about voting for her already assumes she is going to be polished at the debates. Even when HRC wins she kinda loses and so I'm sure she re-affirmed many HRC supporters faith but I don't believe she suddenly scooped up all the independents because what I heard HRC say is she is coming after my wallet and that won't sit well with everyone. 

I doubt folks kept watching the entire time. many tune in and then switch it after a while. How many swing voters sat there for 90+ minutes watching both of them? She has spent a gazillion compared to Trump and at best she might hold a slim lead in a couple key states at the moment. Her poll numbers have slipped, everyone has seen her sick the last couple weeks, she seemed healthy last night. 

 

[The Future Champs]

Here is what's funny and I'll admit HRC did a good job last night but unfortunately for HRC and her supporters...probably won't move the poll numbers much if at all. Trump supporters or anyone that is thinking about voting for her already assumes she is going to be polished at the debates. Even when HRC wins she kinda loses and so I'm sure she re-affirmed many HRC supporters faith but I don't believe she suddenly scooped up all the independents because what I heard HRC say is she is coming after my wallet and that won't sit well with everyone. 

I doubt folks kept watching the entire time. many tune in and then switch it after a while. How many swing voters sat there for 90+ minutes watching both of them? She has spent a gazillion compared to Trump and at best she might hold a slim lead in a couple key states at the moment. Her poll numbers have slipped, everyone has seen her sick the last couple weeks, she seemed healthy last night. 

This is schtick, right?   I mean, the last sentence gives it away.

 

[Daywalker]

Here is what's funny and I'll admit HRC did a good job last night but unfortunately for HRC and her supporters...probably won't move the poll numbers much if at all. Trump supporters or anyone that is thinking about voting for her already assumes she is going to be polished at the debates. Even when HRC wins she kinda loses and so I'm sure she re-affirmed many HRC supporters faith but I don't believe she suddenly scooped up all the independents because what I heard HRC say is she is coming after my wallet and that won't sit well with everyone. 

I doubt folks kept watching the entire time. many tune in and then switch it after a while. How many swing voters sat there for 90+ minutes watching both of them? She has spent a gazillion compared to Trump and at best she might hold a slim lead in a couple key states at the moment. Her poll numbers have slipped, everyone has seen her sick the last couple weeks, she seemed healthy last night. 

Hillary is going to get a 3-5 point bounce from this.

Trump downing water like a camel.  He looked weak.  His biggest selling point.  It's basic.  But that is it.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This is schtick, right?   I mean, the last sentence gives it away.

I opened with HRC did a good job and I closed with she seemed healthy last night...healthy in terms of where she was a couple weeks ago and healthy in terms of her handling Trump last night. Not everything MOP writes has to be a an Ovaltine coded message. 

 

[Riversco]

Hillary gets a 6-8 point bounce from this.  It should be some sort of repeat of the convention bounce.  

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Hillary gets a 6-8 point bounce from this.  It should be some sort of repeat of the convention bounce.  

I think you are going to be sorely disappointed. I don't think as many people watched from the first minute to the last minute as some folks think. 

 

[Daywalker]

She's going to get a bounce.  With the ground game it's over.  Bye bye.

Good luck having a conversation in the next 20 years when you have to defend being in Trump's corner.  Shame.

 

[Riversco]

I think you are going to be sorely disappointed. I don't think as many people watched from the first minute to the last minute as some folks think. 

We already know how the public reacted to Trump and Hillary at the conventions.  I don't see a reason why the voters reaction to the debate will be any different.

 

[Daywalker]

I think you are going to be sorely disappointed. I don't think as many people watched from the first minute to the last minute as some folks think. 

So you are hopeful no one watched Trump until the end?  Nice candidate.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

We already know how the public reacted to Trump and Hillary at the conventions.  I don't see a reason why the voters reaction to the debate will be any different.

Yeah, an entire week wall to wall coverage on HRC vs a 90 minute debate while MNF is rolling on in the background...think McFly!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

She's going to get a bounce.  With the ground game it's over.  Bye bye.

Good luck having a conversation in the next 20 years when you have to defend being in Trump's corner.  Shame.

It's been over about 3-4 different times already according to many of you, not sure why you keep posting it unless of course you do it to pump yourself up. 

Have fun, I sure won't stand in your way but why not spread the good word in the HRC thread...why the need to try and be combative in here? I think we know why that is, more rhetorical than anything. Good Luck the rest of the way, sounds like you don't even need it. I will be interested to see this big bounce ye speak of. 

 

[Daywalker]

It's been over about 3-4 different times already according to many of you, not sure why you keep posting it unless of course you do it to pump yourself up. 

Have fun, I sure won't stand in your way but why not spread the good word in the HRC thread...why the need to try and be combative in here? I think we know why that is, more rhetorical than anything. Good Luck the rest of the way, sounds like you don't even need it. I will be interested to see this big bounce ye speak of. 

I don't think Trump is a racist.

But he's such a crumby person he's using racist bait to get votes.  He's even worse.

The venom I see towards Hillary is odd.  It is a misogynist thing.  She deleted emails?  That is the best you got after 30 years?

Hillary just sticks in white guys craw.  They can't handle it.  It bugs them out.

 

[Riversco]

Let me say this.  If I wanted to defend Trump, I'd point out that the democrat narrative is utterly inconsistent.  On one hand, they want me to believe Trump is an incompetent moron on the level of Palin with little diplomatic skill or even ability to speak properly who is utterly incapable of dealing with foreign affairs like an adult.  On the other hand, they want me to believe Trump is a highly intelligent evil mastermind with amazing foreign policy skill who has adeptly opened up private communication channels with senior Russian officials, cutting backroom deals with secret handshakes with Putin involving lifting economic sanctions on Russia the moment he takes office.

Does he have no diplomatic skill or is he an evil mastermind with incredible diplomatic skill?  The democrats apparently want me to believe both.

That's what I'd say.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I don't think Trump is a racist.

But he's such a crumby person he's using racist bait to get votes.  He's even worse.

The venom I see towards Hillary is odd.  It is a misogynist thing.  She deleted emails?  That is the best you got after 30 years?

Hillary just sticks in white guys craw.  They can't handle it.  It bugs them out.

White Guys craw...

-Who is racist again?

 

[Daywalker]

White Guys craw...

-Who is racist again?

Your candidate still thinks Obama is the Manchurian Candidate.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Your candidate still thinks Obama is the Manchurian Candidate.

You wrote the White Guy craw, not Trump...it's OK, I'm not really trying to stop your fun. Just making a subtle point where the true racism is sitting in front of me. 

 

[Daywalker]

Let me say this.  If I wanted to defend Trump, I'd point out that the democrat narrative is utterly inconsistent.  On one hand, they want me to believe Trump is an incompetent moron on the level of Palin with little diplomatic skill or even ability to speak properly who is utterly incapable of dealing with foreign affairs like an adult.  On the other hand, they want me to believe Trump is a highly intelligent evil mastermind with amazing foreign policy skill who has adeptly opened up private communication channels with senior Russian officials, cutting backroom deals with secret handshakes with Putin involving lifting economic sanctions on Russia the moment he takes office.

Does he have no diplomatic skill or is he an evil mastermind with incredible diplomatic skill?  The democrats apparently want me to believe both.

That's what I'd say.

You kidding me.  Putin likes Trump.  So Trump likes Putin.   Simple as that.

Trump a dolt.  He's been running the Miss Universe contest for a decade.  That's where he spends his time.  He doesn't even have the money he says he has.  Why he doesn't release his taxes.

My god.  How do you even argue.  What is your #### argument?

 

[Daywalker]

You wrote the White Guy craw, not Trump...it's OK, I'm not really trying to stop your fun. Just making a subtle point where the true racism is sitting in front of me. 

White men that I know have an unusual hate for Hillary.   They just hate her.  Will vote against everything they believe in.  It's weird.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

White men that I know have an unusual hate for Hillary.   They just hate her.  Will vote against everything they believe in.  It's weird.

Safe to assume you are African American? I don't usually see a lot of white people speak of their kind like this except on college campuses. 

 

[Daywalker]

Safe to assume you are African American? I don't usually see a lot of white people speak of their kind like this except on college campuses. 

I'm white.  Trying to save my parents from voting for such a con-man.  It's so obvious.  It's going to hurt the Republicans for a long time.  2016, you voted for a guy who wouldn't accept Obama as an American.  It's so simple.  Right or wrong.  You should have a better candidate.  But your racist party didn't put one up.  Kasich might have won.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I'm white.  Trying to save my parents from voting for such a con-man.  It's so obvious.  It's going to hurt the Republicans for a long time.  2016, you voted for a guy who wouldn't accept Obama is American.  It's so simple.  Right or wrong.  You should have a better candidate.  But your racist part didn't put one up.  Kasich might have won.

The hard part for those who hate Trump is accepting that none of those candidates could win even if you removed Trump from the field. It was a weak sauce group, that's why Trump won so easily, they were not prepared for his type of politics and quite frankly I don't think any of them thought they could truly win, that was my take, that's why Trump cleaned their clocks so easily and the same type of candidate will do it again in 2020 and be better organized. 

How do you feel about the 12,000 Syrian refugees we have taken in? Are you for another 100,000 of them being placed in this country?

 

[Daywalker]

The hard part for those who hate Trump is accepting that none fo those candidates could win even if you removed Trump from the field. It was a weak sauce group, that's why Trump won so easily, they were not prepared for his type of politics and quite frankly I don't think any of them thought they could truly won, that was my take, that's why Trump cleaned their clocks so easily and the same type of candidate will do it again in 2020 and be better organized. 

How do you feel about the 12,000 Syrian refugees we have taken in? Are you for another 100,000 of them being placed in this country?

I'd prefer not to let them in.  But it's no where near the top of my list of things important to me.

This is one of the last elections for Republicans.  Demographics say so.

 

[HellToupee]

White men that I know have an unusual hate for Hillary.   

some of my best friends are white

 

[Daywalker]

some of my best friends are white

Some of my best parents are white.

 

[Daywalker]

Some reason a white guy who spends their life aiming to be POTUS is ok.  But a woman?  They can't take that.

 

[HellToupee]

I'm white.  Trying to save my parents from voting for such a con-man.  

Your parents will be ok. What makes you so enlightened and they need your hand holding, they raised you. Do you think they sit around at night talking about their disappointment over you voting for Clinton? Be tolerant of others opinions .