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Rudy Giuliani exposed as key player in Donald Trump’s escalating Trump University bribery scandal

By Bill Palmer | September 7, 2016 | 24

Days after the Donald J. Trump Foundation admitted it violated the law with its $25,000 contribution to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi’s reelection effort, new attention has been focused on the circumstances under which the Trump money was sent Bondi’s way. It turns out the donation was just the start of a bribery scheme to convince Bondi to drop her investigation into Trump University – and it turns out his political colleague Rudy Giuliani was deeply entwined in the bribery.

The original $25,000 donation was made just days after Bondi had publicly stated she was considering prosecuting Trump University, after which she dropped the matter entirely. But if that seemed like a rather paltry amount of money to sway her, it’s more recently been revealed that it was just the beginning of the money which Trump funneled her way. He set up a fundraiser for her at his Mar-a-lago property, which he rented to her for virtually no cost. The two “special guests” listed on the event invitation: Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani.

The fundraiser in question appears to have funneled an estimated $150,000 of third-party money into Pam Bondi’s reelection coffers. When the $136,000 discount on the Mar-a-lago property rental is included, along with the Trump Foundation’s $25,000 and check, and Trump’s own $150,000 donation to the Florida Republican Party (a portion of which went back to Bondi), it’s estimated that Donald Trump’s bribery of Bondi came to a total of somewhere between $350,000 and $400,000. So how does Giuliani play into the scandal?

Rudy Giuliani’s willingness to participate in the Pam Bondi fundraiser isn’t illegal in and of itself, unless he knew that the event was part of Donald Trump’s ongoing series of financial bribes to repay Bondi for calling off the Trump University investigation. But at the least, it puts Giuliani on the hot seat. Why did the former New York City Mayor agree to participate in a Florida fundraiser for a comparatively obscure State Attorney General whom he appeared to have no connection with? What did Giuliani know about the Trump University investigation and when did he know it? And did he know that he was participating in a bribery scheme?
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I'm going to try to pay as much in taxes as possible for my 2016 taxes.  Can you libs help me figure out how do so please.  Clearly this is the smart thing to do.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
:lmao:

Says the poster who was pretty much banned to his own thread at one point.  The only thing worse than your predictions is your ego.  Go pound sand and stop trying to be the board cop.
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Banned to my own thread? Lol, I wasn't banned, I went there voluntarily for a while because I was frustrated with people like you screwing up legitimate discussions all the time. Again if you have something to offer then offer it. But stop wasting our time with this nonsense. It just makes you look awful. 

 
timschochet said:
Banned to my own thread? Lol, I wasn't banned, I went there voluntarily for a while because I was frustrated with people like you screwing up legitimate discussions all the time. Again if you have something to offer then offer it. But stop wasting our time with this nonsense. It just makes you look awful. 
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You spam virtually every thread every day posting the exact same nonsense over and over and over and over and over and over and over as if stating it 1000 times somehow will make people think you actually know something.  If you don't like my posts go back to your own thread.  Or put me on ignore.  Or just keep crying about it here.  I don't really care to be honest.

 
timschochet said:
Banned to my own thread? Lol, I wasn't banned, I went there voluntarily for a while because I was frustrated with people like you screwing up legitimate discussions all the time. Again if you have something to offer then offer it. But stop wasting our time with this nonsense. It just makes you look awful. 
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Now you're changing history? How many times have you been called out for polluting threads?  

 
otello said:
Of all the reasons to hate Trump, taking a legal tax loss rates pretty low.
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It won't be compelling to anyone who hasn't already found a reason to disqualify Trump from the Presidency.  

We don't have enough information to really know if it was legal or not.  The leaked documents are a couple of small pieces of a very large puzzle.  

Even if it is proven legal, I could see how a person who works for a living would be upset about how much of their income goes to taxes while Trump pays nothing.  Between this big loss, and the $800MM or so he's received in subsidies and tax credits over the years in New York, it's pretty clear that most of his wealth was built and protected not by his business acumen, but by a rigged system designed to enrich the already-wealthy at the expense of the 99%.  I'm unbothered by a person pointing to Trump as an example of unfair wealth stratification.

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
You spam virtually every thread every day posting the exact same nonsense over and over and over and over and over and over and over as if stating it 1000 times somehow will make people think you actually know something.  If you don't like my posts go back to your own thread.  Or put me on ignore.  Or just keep crying about it here.  I don't really care to be honest.
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Hey I'm just trying to give you constructive advice. It's up to you if you want to follow it. 

I don't put anybody on ignore. Maybe one of these days you'll offer something thoughtful and actually contribute to the discussion. I'm ever optimistic. 

 
I assume it is legal.  He is taking a deduction on a tax loss.  You can argue he is a bad business man, which resulted here in a tax loss.

 
BeaverCleaver said:
Now you're changing history? How many times have you been called out for polluting threads?  
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I've been called out by the same people, you being one of them. Most of the people who have called me out share many things in common, including an unfortunate inability to offer any real substance to discussion and debate. Sadly I am unable to exclude you from this description. 

 
timschochet said:
I've been called out by the same people, you being one of them. Most of the people who have called me out share many things in common, including an unfortunate inability to offer any real substance to discussion and debate. Sadly I am unable to exclude you from this description. 
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You get called out from many people when that substance you refer too is a pile of crap.

 
He's certainly allowed to avoid paying taxes, and to declare losses. But I don't think it's admirable to fire thousands of employees and stiff contractors and declare bankruptcy in order to horde wealth. I couldn't do that and live with myself. My earnings aren't based on taking advantage of other people. 

 
randall146 said:
It's not so much the tax-loss as the loss-loss. The guy's only supposed qualification is being a business man and he lost a billion in the casino business
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In a year when the S&P 500 went up 37%.  I get the desire to zig when others are zagging, but in a year where most were hitting home runs, Trump struck out, broke his bat over his knee, and sprained an ankle going back to the dugout.

 
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otello said:
I assume it is legal.  He is taking a deduction on a tax loss.  You can argue he is a bad business man, which resulted here in a tax loss.
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And since being a good businessman is the only rational argument for putting him in charge of anything, it should be significant when the best-case scenario here is "bad businessman".  

But like I said earlier, if a voter hasn't found a reason to DQ Trump already, this won't make a difference.

 
otello said:
I assume it is legal.  He is taking a deduction on a tax loss.  You can argue he is a bad business man, which resulted here in a tax loss.
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Who's arguing?  He's a bad business man*. 

* Also a bad friend, bad husband, bad person, and 'you can argue' the worst candidate ever put forth by a major party. 

 
Card Trader said:
I'm going to try to pay as much in taxes as possible for my 2016 taxes.  Can you libs help me figure out how do so please.  Clearly this is the smart thing to do.
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Honestly couldn't care about legal write-offs, but I do care about the attitude. I do care about his constant lies and exaggerations about his success. The right constantly yells about Clinton's lies, but she can't hold a candle to Trump in that regard.

I don't get it

 
timschochet said:
Moving from the absurd to the truly scary: Trump wants his poll watchers in Pennsylvania to intimidate young and minority voters: 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/2016-election-pennsylvania-polls-voters-trump-clinton-214297

Trump doubled down on this last night, calling on his supporters to "keep a tight watch in certain areas...you know who I'm talking about..." 
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I'm kind of hoping when I go to vote some of these will be there. I'll stick around to keep a watch on them.

 
cstu said:
If his company buys a building for $2 billion and then when its value drops to $1 billion it's legal for him to write off $1 billion.

However, if he negotiated the debt down with the banks the banks wouldn't he have to report that amount as a gain?
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Curious about this.

If he wrote down nearly $1 billion as a loss and then filed bankruptcy to eliminate the debt (treated as non-taxable income I believe) then he effectively lost nothing but has nearly $1 billion that he could still earn tax-free.

Thoughts?

 
cstu said:
Curious about this.

If he wrote down nearly $1 billion as a loss and then filed bankruptcy to eliminate the debt (treated as non-taxable income I believe) then he effectively lost nothing but has nearly $1 billion that he could still earn tax-free.

Thoughts?
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Trump will fix it.

If a Dem whispered a word about this he'd be some commie trying to destroy the free market and "job creators".

 
Hey Trumpettes tell me with a straight face you wouldn't have collectively #### your pants if Obama said a word about "fixing" what Trump has allegedly done here.

 
cstu said:
Curious about this.

If he wrote down nearly $1 billion as a loss and then filed bankruptcy to eliminate the debt (treated as non-taxable income I believe) then he effectively lost nothing but has nearly $1 billion that he could still earn tax-free.

Thoughts?
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I think there would be a lot more outrage if he hatched this plan on a private email server and then deleted the emails.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
OMG people are arguing and bickering in here!!!  WHY AREN'T YOU DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT 3C's??????
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The fact that you can't see the difference between all the other posts versus your endless back and forth with squis is shocking considering otherwise you seem like a fairly intelligent adult. But feel free to keep calling me out. It shows your true colors. :cry:

 
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