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HellToupee said:
The Illegal Publishing of Trump's Tax Return Demonstrates Why an Outsider Absolutely Must Be Elected President


RUSH: Who's all betting on what I'm gonna start with? They're telling me on the other side of the glass that they're betting in there on what I'm gonna start with. What else is there? What are the possibilities? What are you betting on in there? (interruption) Are you kidding me? You think I would actually open with Kardashian, which you've now forced me to do? You actually think that I would mention the robbery in Paris leading off the program?

What's the other one? The Clinton love child. So far that's a Drudge exclusive. (interruption) Oh, has the Daily Mail picked it up? Okay. But nowhere else. I mean, they're avoiding that story like the plague. Well, that's the natural starting point is Trump's taxes. But I have some questions about this before we get started with the details.

The illegal publishing of Donald Trump's tax return encapsulates and validates the reason why an outsider absolutely must be elected president, if you ask me. This is an act of illegality. Donald Trump has followed the law. Nobody in this is even alleging he broke the law. He certainly hasn't been accused of it by the IRS or anybody else.

We're talking about 1995. Donald Trump has followed the law. The media broke the law. The New York Times breaks the law. Do you realize how much lawlessness is dominating the events every day in our country from illegal immigration to the Clintons' illegal pay and play for their foundation, to the Clintons illegal accepting payoffs and front money in advance of her being elected president and while she was secretary of state.

Do you realize all the lawbreaking, the real illegality that we are dealing with every day, the breakdown of the rule of law, and that's not the story. Donald Trump has followed the law, the media has broken the law, and the illegal publishing of Trump's tax return I think, again, illustrates, validates, if you will, the reasons why an outsider absolutely must be elected president.

The media may have worked with the IRS to break the law. We already know the IRS breaks the law. We know the IRS broke the law in denying tax-exempt status to a number of conservative fundraiser organizations. We know that Mrs. Clinton is routinely violating the law as secretary of state with her email server. And the lying that the FBI director documented that she engaged in, not in her interview, but that she's lied to congressional committees, she has lied to the American people.

Mrs. Clinton will not release the transcripts of the speeches that she has given to banks, and I think we know why now. When she goes out and speaks to Bernie Sanders supporters, she tells them that they're all wet, she tells them that their hopes and dreams are unrealistic. We weren't supposed to learn about that.

We weren't supposed to learn about the fact that she believes half of Trump's voters could be put in a basket of deplorables. It's no wonder Mrs. Clinton won't go out and do what Donald Trump is doing right now, or was earlier. He was having a sit-down with a bunch of military people, a bunch of veterans at an organization in Washington after having given a speech. He'll talk to anybody who wants to talk to him, any time, any day, about anything.

Mrs. Clinton can't afford to because they have to really ride herd on making sure she doesn't say things in public like she says in private, which slowly and surely are leaking out. But the breakdown of the rule of law -- the abject lawlessness that is determining the future, determining the direction our country is traveling and going -- it's time it stopped. And even the editor of the New York Times, this Dean Baquet guy, said he would gladly go to jail if somebody sent him the Trump tax returns and he published them illegally.

It's illegal for the IRS to share that information with anybody. It's illegal for the Times to publish it. But nobody's talking about that. Listen to this. This is Glenn Thrush writing at The Politico in a story headlined: "The Week That Will Decide the U.S. Election -- Five things to watch in a week that will likely pick a president." You want the opening paragraph of this story? Here you go. Sit down. "If there's one thing we've learned about the 2016 electorate..." That's you.

"If there's one thing we've learned about the 2016 electorate after many dozens of polls, it's this: The Republicans could have nominated a mile-high mound of flaming medical waste and between 38 and 43% of the American electorate would have voted for it over Hillary Rodham Clinton." Now, you might think it's a clever line, I might think it's a clever line, but what it is is an attempt to dismiss and denigrate Trump by essentially saying that opposition to Hillary is out there because anywhere from 38 to 43% of the American people are a bunch of bigots.

Thirty-eight to 43% of the American people are a bunch of closed-minded whatevers -- deplorables, bitter clingers, what have you 'cause they would vote against Hillary Clinton no matter what. "The Republicans could have nominated a mile-high mound of flaming medical waste..." So that is -- and they're all over the place, folks. That's just the latest indication of how you are thought of by the Democrat Party, by its willing accomplices in the Drive-By Media and the Washington establishment in general.

I'm just telling you. It's all there for you to soak in and accept it. "Dem[ocrat]s Build Files to Track Trump 'Stain.'" That's another Politico story with yet another reference to a mile-high mound of waste. The Democrat Party "aims to hang this [Trump] around Republican necks for years." Washington Post: "A President Trump Could Deport Freely." This is a story designed to scare leftists, liberals, and pro-illegal immigrant forces by suggesting that Trump literally could deport anybody he wanted any time and probably would.

An opinion piece, an op-ed in the Washington Post: "The Most Shocking Part of Donald Trump's Tax Records Isn't the $916 Million Loss Everyone's Talking About." It's the illegal publishing of it. The Times. The Post doesn't say that, by the way. I'm adding that. That's really what is the most shocking part is. But it's not gonna be the most shocking part to most people. The same thing was done to Richard Nixon by Adam Clymer, then at the Baltimore Sun. Nixon's tax returns were illegally leaked. (interruption)

You don't know that story? I will remind you of that story as it comes up in the Stack of Stuff. I've put everything here in as much of a consequential or date timeline order as I can. So we have, just to establish: The illegal publishing of Trump's tax return to me demonstrates why an outsider absolutely must be elected president. What if it's your tax return? You might be saying, "So what, Rush? Trump's running for president. You gotta expect that most people release their tax return." He's chosen not to; there's no law says he has to.

Democrats are seeking any evidence they can, seeking any advantage they can 'cause they don't trust Hillary to win this on her own, obviously. So they willingly engage in illegality to do it, and now they're being praised and high-fived, of course, by other media outlets and organizations for doing so. But it's just a quintessential example of the corruption -- corruption at the highest levels of our government and media complex -- that we have to put up with and deal with every day. Trump followed the laws. The media broke the laws.

The media may have worked with IRS on to break the law. The IRS and the media appear to have conspired to help a Democrat, who herself is the most corrupt person to ever run for president. She's not the best. She's not the most qualified. She is the most corrupt person to ever run. But you know and I know that President Obama and the Department of Justice will do nothing to hold anybody responsible or accountable. There's a scandal here. Everybody thinks there's a scandal.

The scandal has nothing to do with Donald Trump. "What do you mean, Rush? We reported a lot of money, $916 million." Yeah, nothing illegal about it. Hillary used the same tactic. The New York Times used the same provision in the tax law. That's correct. The New York Times and Hillary Clinton have both used the same provision. Losses in one year carry over and count against whatever gains or income you show in succeeding years. The scandal here has nothing to do with Trump, but that's not how it's gonna be seen, obviously.

It's going to be seen because it is being reported as a Trump scandal. "He won't release his tax returns, and now we discovered he's declared this $916 million loss. Oh, my God, this has got to be a scandal!" Just because you can't think in those numbers, just because people can't relate to losing $916 million does not mean that there is a scandal. The scandal involves the IRS. The scandal involves the New York Times and the rest of the media. The scandal involves perhaps Hillary Clinton.

So we are up against crony justice, crony journalism, the illegal use of the IRS to punish enemies of Democrats, when to this day it is thought the only person that ever thought or tried to do that was Richard Nixon -- and he never did it. He wanted to, but he never did it. In fact, he ended up being victimized. And I hear people say, "Well, I guess this is it, the October surprise, Rush. I guess." No, this is not an October Surprise. This is standard operating procedure when the Democrats in the White House.

It's the standard operating procedure the Democrats and the establishment are running the show. Corruption is on the ballot, not scandal. It is not conservatism, not what we wish. Corruption is on the ballot, and it's all found under that capital D on your ballot. Okay, so Trump's business lost some money. We can see Trump's business lost some money. Hillary Clinton as secretary of state lost four people in Benghazi, including our ambassador. Hillary Clinton loses people. Trump lost some money.

His own, by the way, not yours.

Hillary Clinton also lost some 30,000 incriminating emails. Imagine if there was a carryover, a carryover write-off for debt ambassadors and colleagues, for broken laws and destroyed evidence. The Clinton family wouldn't pay taxes for the next five generations, if you could carry that stuff over. But the real grating thing to me here is that losing lives -- Benghazi -- losing and destroying evidence -- the email scandal and who knows what other corruption exists with the Clinton Crime Family Foundation -- these end up being resume enhancers for Democrats.

Whatever it takes to beat us. That is the unifying principle that keeps the left together: Beating us. We do not have such a unifying principle as evidenced by the split support for Trump. We, on our side, simply cannot and do not unify to beat Democrats, to beat liberals. They, on the left, unify. They'll forget any grudge they've got amongst themselves. They will unify to defeat us. We are the number one enemy they face day in and day out anywhere in the world, and they treat us accordingly. We do not. We're too busy trying to show them that we're not what they think of us. Such a pointless exercise.

The media, Barack Obama say Hillary's the most prepared person ever to be president.

Of what? A mafia family?

What is she qualified to be president of? Do you remember the emails from East Anglia, the University of East Anglia, which was the first solid indication that we all got confirming our suspicions that this manmade global warming story is a hoax? The New York Times refused to publish those emails. Do you remember? The New York Times refused to publish those emails because they were acquired by virtue of it hack, which the Times said made them acquired illegally, which the Times said prevented them from telling the story of the climate change hoax.

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Sure, but not THIS outsider. Trump is the reason we need an outsider.

 
How much is Fox News worth?
Fox has a two decade head start. Not sure a Trump branded news operation would necessarily equal/surpass them. I don't see Fox going from 100% of their viewership to 0%, with Trump conversely going from 0% to 100% of their prospective audiences (no doubt there would be overlap).   

 
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Fox has a two decade head start. Not sure a Trump branded news operation it would necessarily equal/surpass them. I don't see Fox going from 100% of their viewership to 0%, with Trump conversely going from 0% to 100% of their prospective audiences.    
Well, obviously not 100% right away. But I'd bet that Ailes will / would bring a big chunk of the top on air talent with him, and Trump network would / will come roaring out of the gate. He has the Breitbart connection too. Bottom line is there is huge money in cable news / entertainment. He's not going to be hurting if a small percentage of people stop staying at his hotels and playing at his golf courses.

 
Well, obviously not 100% right away. But I'd bet that Ailes will / would bring a big chunk of the top on air talent with him, and Trump network would / will come roaring out of the gate. He has the Breitbart connection too. Bottom line is there is huge money in cable news / entertainment. He's not going to be hurting if a small percentage of people stop staying at his hotels and playing at his golf courses.
Not sure how significantly Ailes could cannibalize Fox (if they are already doing well there, why move?). Not just right away. Sure there is huge money, but Fox has a lot of it, is already established and it is unclear if/how Trump would automatically take over an appreciable percentage of that business. What Cuban may have been talking about was much more than a small percentage long term impact on his real estate partnerships if his "brand" becomes too toxic/radioactive (not just hotels, he has global commercial real estate deals, already some of them have been scuttled due to his controversial politics, and there may be many more instances). Enough to go bankrupt in seven years. Who is going to loan him the money for the venture, Russia/Putin? :)

* At various times in his career, there was also HUGE money in real estate and casinos, but that didn't prevent him from bungling things on a colossal scale, and having to declare bankruptcy how many times (4-6)? It isn't like he (or his companies) has an extensive history of being BK proof, that would cause us to ASSUME anything he touches will be inexorably transmuted into financial gold ala Midas. 

** BTW, I heard recently the near $1 billion loss claimed on his income tax was TWO PERCENT OF THE US TOTAL in that year! Is that possible? Anyway, he could structure it in a way if it fails, he can walk away with no consequences, and the hapless rube OPM investors get left holding the bag AGAIN (we've read this novel before).  

 
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Fox has a two decade head start. Not sure a Trump branded news operation would necessarily equal/surpass them. I don't see Fox going from 100% of their viewership to 0%, with Trump conversely going from 0% to 100% of their prospective audiences (no doubt there would be overlap).   
I'd think spending a lot of money to try to start a cable network would be the type of thing you could easily lose a billion dollars a year on without much chance of ever turning a profit.. What kind of businessman would do that?

 
Guys, Trump isn't going to start his own network.

(He's just going to lease his name to a pre-existing network, in a deal that gives him a cut of the profits without risking anything if it goes bankrupt.)

 
Last week, I saw a replay of this interview with Eric Trump regarding Trump Winery.  He uses the word "sexy" four separate times to describe the wine industry. He also says wine "is so in right now."  Am I the only one who finds his pitch laughably absurd?

https://youtu.be/5DqUg4_PVzA

 
Interesting breakdown of CNN poll number differences from early Sept. to now among men.

It went from 54% - 32% to 45% - 40% (collapsing a 22% to just 5% gap in about a month, a massive 17% net gain).

* David Gergen, a former Presidential adviser, mentioned common thinking is you need 40% of the Latino vote to win the election. He is currently polling at less than half of that.

 
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Steve Tasker said:
Depends on the type of property.  "Real property" aka the building itself and its main structural components cannot have accelerated depreciation.   The additional assets in service - furniture, cabinetry, appliances, flooring/carpeting, decorative finishes, etc., are considered "personal property" and are allowed shorter depreciable lives (5 or 7 years these days).  I am not sure what was in place in the mid-90s but I know the shorter lives were available on personal property.  I don't believe there was any "bonus depreciation" that we have now, but I am not sure.  Section 179 expensing would be irrelevant today as it is not allowed on a rental.  I am not sure what exactly was allowed in the mid-90s because I was in approximately 4th grade in 1995....
LOOK AT ME I'M JUST A BABY!

 
HellToupee said:
Listen to this. This is Glenn Thrush writing at The Politico in a story headlined: "The Week That Will Decide the U.S. Election -- Five things to watch in a week that will likely pick a president." You want the opening paragraph of this story? Here you go. Sit down. "If there's one thing we've learned about the 2016 electorate..." That's you.

"If there's one thing we've learned about the 2016 electorate after many dozens of polls, it's this: The Republicans could have nominated a mile-high mound of flaming medical waste and between 38 and 43% of the American electorate would have voted for it over Hillary Rodham Clinton." Now, you might think it's a clever line, I might think it's a clever line, but what it is is an attempt to dismiss and denigrate Trump by essentially saying that opposition to Hillary is out there because anywhere from 38 to 43% of the American people are a bunch of bigots.

Thirty-eight to 43% of the American people are a bunch of closed-minded whatevers -- deplorables, bitter clingers, what have you 'cause they would vote against Hillary Clinton no matter what. "The Republicans could have nominated a mile-high mound of flaming medical waste..." So that is -- and they're all over the place, folks. That's just the latest indication of how you are thought of by the Democrat Party, by its willing accomplices in the Drive-By Media and the Washington establishment in general.
Sure, but not THIS outsider. Trump is the reason we need an outsider.
Aside from the obvious strawman lie (that the Times and the IRS conspired to break the law when it was Trump's State return that was published), this is my favorite part of Rush's incoherent rant.  Politico slams Clinton by pointing out that 38-43% of Americans would vote for a mile-high mound of medical waste rather than her and he somehow twists it into an allegation that those 38-43% are bigots.  The trouble is, there are now millions of ditto-heads out there who really believe that's what Politico said. 

 
:lmao:

Assange . What a pantload . I wish Hillary did take him out with a drone
The guy has been hiding in an Ecuadorian embassy for six years dodging a rape case in Sweden; it's not exactly surprising that he's full of ####. And the "it's over for Hillary" came from Roger Stone. You might want to consider your sources before getting all lathered up next time.

 
Donald Trump gave 10 times as much money as the law appears to allow individuals to contribute to the 2006 gubernatorial campaign of Florida’s then-Attorney General Charlie Crist, according to a Huffington Post review of state campaign finance records. The donations that exceeded the individual limit were all made on the same day through companies Trump owns.

 
It's been interesting to me watching a group of people that have spent the last 20 years complaining about poor people who can barely put food on the table for (legally) not paying enough taxes now wanting to high five a billionaire who doesn't really need the extra money for (maybe legally) finding loopholes to do the same thing.
All these people complained previously that everyone on welfare is taking advantage of the system and stealing their hard working money. Trump, doesn't pay taxes for (possibly) 20 years and he's looked at as a genius for not giving any money to the government. Can someone explain how taking advantage of welfare loopholes is any different than taking advantage of tax loopholes? If you're so upset about people "stealing" money for welfare, then what about Trump not even giving any money to the government to use for the troops, vets, education, roads, etc.?

 
Donald Trump gave 10 times as much money as the law appears to allow individuals to contribute to the 2006 gubernatorial campaign of Florida’s then-Attorney General Charlie Crist, according to a Huffington Post review of state campaign finance records. The donations that exceeded the individual limit were all made on the same day through companies Trump owns.
That makes him smart!

or guilty of fraud. 

 
All these people complained previously that everyone on welfare is taking advantage of the system and stealing their hard working money. Trump, doesn't pay taxes for (possibly) 20 years and he's looked at as a genius for not giving any money to the government. Can someone explain how taking advantage of welfare loopholes is any different than taking advantage of tax loopholes? If you're so upset about people "stealing" money for welfare, then what about Trump not even giving any money to the government to use for the troops, vets, education, roads, etc.?
Here's where I really wish Bernie had won the nomination.  Most of his everyday speech was about how the system is rigged for the top 1% and how they don't pay their fair share. He would have knocked this out of the park.  

 
Not sure how significantly Ailes could cannibalize Fox (if they are already doing well there, why move?). Not just right away. Sure there is huge money, but Fox has a lot of it, is already established and it is unclear if/how Trump would automatically take over an appreciable percentage of that business. What Cuban may have been talking about was much more than a small percentage long term impact on his real estate partnerships if his "brand" becomes too toxic/radioactive (not just hotels, he has global commercial real estate deals, already some of them have been scuttled due to his controversial politics, and there may be many more instances). Enough to go bankrupt in seven years. Who is going to loan him the money for the venture, Russia/Putin? :)

* At various times in his career, there was also HUGE money in real estate and casinos, but that didn't prevent him from bungling things on a colossal scale, and having to declare bankruptcy how many times (4-6)? It isn't like he (or his companies) has an extensive history of being BK proof, that would cause us to ASSUME anything he touches will be inexorably transmuted into financial gold ala Midas. 

** BTW, I heard recently the near $1 billion loss claimed on his income tax was TWO PERCENT OF THE US TOTAL in that year! Is that possible? Anyway, he could structure it in a way if it fails, he can walk away with no consequences, and the hapless rube OPM investors get left holding the bag AGAIN (we've read this novel before).  
I read that most of their big personalities have "outs" written into their contracts re: Ailes leaving. Certainly O'Reilly, and there were a few others. IMO they'd all just follow the money.

I have no idea what Trump's end game is in all of this -- but the network thing seems to make the most sense. Of course it's also possible that he's just been running an actual campaign all along, and is just that incompetent. But the no ad-spend, the lack of any coherence or preparation of any kind, the numerous and obviously avoided huge PR blunders, the lack of local campaign staff, etc say that he really DGAF to me -- if this has actually been his best effort at winning, then wow. Just, ...wow.

Maybe I'm giving him too much credit and he is just truly flailing around with no clue. But I'd agree that he has hurt his brand, and I have to believe that he knows this, and probably wouldn't do so without some sort of way to offset the damage.

 
Donald Trump gave 10 times as much money as the law appears to allow individuals to contribute to the 2006 gubernatorial campaign of Florida’s then-Attorney General Charlie Crist, according to a Huffington Post review of state campaign finance records. The donations that exceeded the individual limit were all made on the same day through companies Trump owns.
This quote is highly misleading.  The Huffington Post article says that what Trump did was legal under Florida law.

 
I doubt it is legal, it's probably just never prosecuted.
I don't know Florida campaign finance law, but here's what the article says -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-donations-charlie-crist_us_57f2e982e4b0703f75909bb3?section :

Florida defines “person” to include an individual, corporation, association, joint venture or company, so a person and that person’s entities each can contribute $500. Trump’s contributions masked his total giving, but don’t appear to violate state campaign finance laws in effect at the time.

 
He's almost certainly positioning himself as the head of a new alt-right cable news channel. And it'll be a great place to sell those stupid trucker hats, etc to his followers. He's just changing his customer demos.
I'm not sure he can even do that. The guy has wrapped himself so much in the "rich guy that traffics in luxury, anything with Trump on it is the absolute best" persona that I don't think selling hats or whatever other crap is going to work for him. Granted, he certainly loves money but even more than that he loves status.

 
I'm not sure he can even do that. The guy has wrapped himself so much in the "rich guy that traffics in luxury, anything with Trump on it is the absolute best" persona that I don't think selling hats or whatever other crap is going to work for him. Granted, he certainly loves money but even more than that he loves status.
He has a pretty long history of slapping his name on pretty much anything as long as he gets paid for it. "Trump Network" would seem to be a pretty big ego-stroke IMO. If he doesn't know (or doesn't care) that he's turned himself into an international punchline by now, he'll never figure it out.

 
The real panic in my mind is giving Hillary control of all 3 government branches for 2 years.  The polling on these races aren't very detailed, but the carryover effect here is going to be a major risk.  Most are giving her the Senate at this point.  

 
I read that most of their big personalities have "outs" written into their contracts re: Ailes leaving. Certainly O'Reilly, and there were a few others. IMO they'd all just follow the money.

I have no idea what Trump's end game is in all of this -- but the network thing seems to make the most sense. Of course it's also possible that he's just been running an actual campaign all along, and is just that incompetent. But the no ad-spend, the lack of any coherence or preparation of any kind, the numerous and obviously avoided huge PR blunders, the lack of local campaign staff, etc say that he really DGAF to me -- if this has actually been his best effort at winning, then wow. Just, ...wow.

Maybe I'm giving him too much credit and he is just truly flailing around with no clue. But I'd agree that he has hurt his brand, and I have to believe that he knows this, and probably wouldn't do so without some sort of way to offset the damage.
That would take self-awareness, which he lacks, or someone willing to tell him the truth.

 
He has a pretty long history of slapping his name on pretty much anything as long as he gets paid for it. "Trump Network" would seem to be a pretty big ego-stroke IMO. If he doesn't know (or doesn't care) that he's turned himself into an international punchline by now, he'll never figure it out.
He'd have to use a different name, he already used "Trump Network" for a fake vitamin sales pyramid scheme.

Imagine having so many shady businesses designed to scam idiots that you start running out of names for them.

 
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That would take self-awareness, which he lacks, or someone willing to tell him the truth.
I'd think that his kids would be giving him a "WTF???" if he were just gratuitously harming the bottom line to play around and pretend to run for President. It really has all been so bizarre though, so who really knows?

 
The real panic in my mind is giving Hillary control of all 3 government branches for 2 years.  The polling on these races aren't very detailed, but the carryover effect here is going to be a major risk.  Most are giving her the Senate at this point.  
Its obviously better then the reversal of that.  We see what happens on Texas, Alabama and Carolina just fine. 

 
The real panic in my mind is giving Hillary control of all 3 government branches for 2 years.  The polling on these races aren't very detailed, but the carryover effect here is going to be a major risk.  Most are giving her the Senate at this point.  
I'll be very surprised if this happens.  Trump's ground game is brutal, but the party has done a great job getting organized down the ballot.  There's a few instances of traditional big GOP backers taking the money they had socked away for the presidential nominee and giving it to congressional campaigns instead.  

I don't think Trump will have anywhere near the long-term effect a lot are expecting.  2018 and 2020 will be seas of red.

 
I'd think that his kids would be giving him a "WTF???" if he were just gratuitously harming the bottom line to play around and pretend to run for President. It really has all been so bizarre though, so who really knows?
They saw what happened to Donald's brother when he disappointed his dad.  The kids are just riding this out until Donald dies and they can collect their piece of the pie.

 
I don't think Trump will have anywhere near the long-term effect a lot are expecting.  2018 and 2020 will be seas of red.
In terms of local races, then yeah, I won't argue that too much. But the biggest effects are going to be in essentially turning the SC blue for a generation and in the "Goldwater effect" down the road with Hispanic voters. IMO that second one is going to be a problem for years for the Republican Party, particularly given that by the next Presidential election cycle, Texas will have a Hispanic majority.

 
He has a pretty long history of slapping his name on pretty much anything as long as he gets paid for it. "Trump Network" would seem to be a pretty big ego-stroke IMO. If he doesn't know (or doesn't care) that he's turned himself into an international punchline by now, he'll never figure it out.
And you know he'll be on it all the time talking about his 2020 run even if he has no real intention of running again.

 
And you know he'll be on it all the time talking about his 2020 run even if he has no real intention of running again.
Yeah, probably. The really interesting thing is to watch for is going to be how he spins getting his teeth kicked in after the election. After it's all over, both sides are going to run post-postmortems, and it's not going to paint a flattering picture for Trump and his campaign. When the Republican Party no longer has to parrot the team line, I'm guessing Trump is going to get absolutely blasted for basically giving this election away to a very weak Democratic opponent.

 
Yeah, probably. The really interesting thing is to watch for is going to be how he spins getting his teeth kicked in after the election. After it's all over, both sides are going to run post-postmortems, and it's not going to paint a flattering picture for Trump and his campaign. When the Republican Party no longer has to parrot the team line, I'm guessing Trump is going to get absolutely blasted for basically giving this election away to a very weak Democratic opponent.
I think the biggest loser if Trump loses and starts a network to compete with FOX is going to be Paul Ryan. There's going to be a loud, vocal battle for the far right vote and any attempt at compromise by Ryan is going to be blasted by both networks. He's going to have a tough time trying to get anything done without backlash.

 
I think the biggest loser if Trump loses and starts a network to compete with FOX is going to be Paul Ryan. There's going to be a loud, vocal battle for the far right vote and any attempt at compromise by Ryan is going to be blasted by both networks. He's going to have a tough time trying to get anything done without backlash.
The country as a whole will be by far the biggest loser if and when this happens. Some of the people on Fox are bad enough, with two networks trying to out-infowars each other the Republican base will end up much farther off of the reservation than they already are.

 
He'd have to use a different name, he already used "Trump Network" for a fake vitamin sales pyramid scheme.

Imagine having so many shady businesses designed to scam idiots that you start running out of names for them.
He should use the same name.  Then sue himself.  Then settle for a Billion dollars.  Then fail to pay himself.  Then write off the debt as another billion dollar loss.  Then still not pay taxes

NOW WHO'S THE GENIUS!??!

 
The country as a whole will be by far the biggest loser if and when this happens. Some of the people on Fox are bad enough, with two networks trying to out-infowars each other the Republican base will end up much farther off of the reservation than they already are.
I don't think that's true. As they will expose each other and then they wont have the "left" to blame for reporting on all of that idiocy.

Part of the reason they get such solid run on radio and TV is that they really on have 1 political outlet which stays arm-in-arm with each other.

 
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