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Rove! said:
The desperation is causing some people to make issues out if non issues.
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

That's the focal-point of the very thing you are whining about! 

Un-fuggin-real how much self awareness you lack.  What you did is exactly why the critical thinking jabs arise towards the conservatives.

 
Donald Trump’s Slip in Polls Has G.O.P. Worried About Congress

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign.html

Liesl Hickey, a Republican strategist involved in several House races in swing states, said she was dismayed by a sudden exodus of independent voters in more diverse parts of the country.


“They are really starting to pull away from Trump,” said Ms. Hickey, describing his soaring unpopularity with independents as entering “uncharted territory.”


Poll: Clinton retakes 11-point lead over Trump in Michigan

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/10/06/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-michigan/91611112/

 
culdeus said:
I remember fondly the days when simply putting a helmet on and riding in a tank could sink a campaign, or getting a little too shrill at a rally could brand you as crazy as you rolled off states names.

I guess the one thing we have to move forward is that gaffe led campaigns are now just daily derp.
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Too excited is bad, too boring is bad (Jeb!), but too crazy is just fine.  SMH.

I was a big supporter of Howard Dean, watched that speech live and liked it.  Was dumbfounded the next day when so much was made of his scream. 

 
:lmao:  I've never heard of anyone running for office who was embarrassed on a daily basis like this. Why isn't he 40 points behind already? What the #### is wrong with you people? 

 
And don't give me the Supreme Court. Like Trump can even name a SC justice. That list of prospective justices his campaign issued a couple of months back- we all know Trump has never met any of those dudes, couldn't tell you anything about them. 

 
timschochet said:
And don't give me the Supreme Court. Like Trump can even name a SC justice. That list of prospective justices his campaign issued a couple of months back- we all know Trump has never met any of those dudes, couldn't tell you anything about them. 
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I'm pretty sure he's at least met Peter Thiel. 

 
Rove! said:
She like to conflate small scale voter fraud with wholesale pre-determination.  She also likes to make puns with racial slurs....nice
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You have it exactly backwards. Great example of the whole projection personality disorder - you a Trump alias?

 
squistion said:
Video at link:

Lil ‏@LilliamD 18m18 minutes ago

CNN commentator: Donald Trump 'es un racista—he is a flat out racist.'

http://fusion.net/story/354814/ana-navarro-trump-es-una-racista/?
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The conversation became more and more heated, until Caputo told Navarro, “Ana, for you to sit here and call Donald Trump a flat-out racist is outrageous.”

And that’s what set Navarro off:


“Well let me do it again, and let me do it in two languages. Es un racista — he is a flat-out racist, and it’s what he’s played on for 16 months. He is a bigot, he is a racist, he is a misogynist. He has said horrible things about women. He has said horrible things about immigrants, about Hispanics. He has yet to say one good thing about immigrants, and for your to shake your head and tell me that I’m the outrageous one, that’s what outrages me.”


 
timschochet said:
:lmao:  I've never heard of anyone running for office who was embarrassed on a daily basis like this. Why isn't he 40 points behind already? What the #### is wrong with you people? 
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What the #### is wrong with the democratic nominee.

You not understanding how flawed Hillary is is about as bad as the Trumpkins.

But yes Trump has taken this to new lows, which is unfortunate because the bar is now so low that some other terrible Republican candidate can now run and everyone will say he's not as bad as trump!

 
Green Day's Revolution Radio was written before this year's election cycle, meaning there are no searing takedowns of politicians akin to the band's Bush-bashing American Idiot in 2004. Not like that would've mattered anyway.

"I get absolutely no inspiration from Donald Trump," says frontman Billie Joe Armstrong, 44. "He's a white supremacist, there's no other way around it."
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bagger said:
What the #### is wrong with the democratic nominee.

You not understanding how flawed Hillary is is about as bad as the Trumpkins.

But yes Trump has taken this to new lows, which is unfortunate because the bar is now so low that some other terrible Republican candidate can now run and everyone will say he's not as bad as trump!
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Emails?  She gave speeches for a lot money?  What else?

 
cstu said:
Emails?  She gave speeches for a lot money?  What else?
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She did the Benghazi! Can't believe you forgot that one.

Also her husband cheated on her a bunch of times.  And she didn't even have the guts to take revenge on him by leaking something exposing him as a fraud to the NY Times! Instead she stayed with him and they continued to raise their daughter together like caring and responsible parents might do. What a chump.

 
TobiasFunke said:
She did the Benghazi! Can't believe you forgot that one.

Also her husband cheated on her a bunch of times.  And she didn't even have the guts to take revenge on him by leaking something exposing him as a fraud to the NY Times! Instead she stayed with him and they continued to raise their daughter together like caring and responsible parents might do. What a chump.
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Hey, don't forget she prepared for the debate.  How low can you get?

 
cstu said:
Emails?  She gave speeches for a lot money?  What else?
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destoyed Libya where the "rebels" carried out a racial genocide

armed terrorists in Syria which instigated the biggest humanitarian crisis of most of our lifetimes.

He strategy for Syria intervention has re-ignited the cold war and has Russia doing a massive nuclear war exercise to prepare for that possibility

 
supported the overthrow of  the goverment in Honduras which has led to a mass increase in violence and bloodshed

 
I can also predict that an iportatnt adminstartion job awaits one of her powerful surrogates in  General Wesley Clark who nearly ignited war with Russia in Kosovo and recently stated on TV that he wants to bring back internment camps.

 
We can certainly agree that she's about 1000x better than Trump without making her into something she's not. She has showed some pretty questionable judgement in the past with the email server and her foreign policy decisions. Her support on liberal social issues has been lukewarm and dependent on which way the wind has been blowing. Her husband's administration gutted the social safety nets and the crime bill was a travesty, and I refuse to believe that she had no voice in either of those. She's not charismatic, she's divisive, and she's generally disliked and distrusted (although a big part of the last one is no fault of her own). We're actually probably pretty lucky that she drew Trump.

 
Rove! said:
destoyed Libya where the "rebels" carried out a racial genocide

armed terrorists in Syria which instigated the biggest humanitarian crisis of most of our lifetimes.

He strategy for Syria intervention has re-ignited the cold war and has Russia doing a massive nuclear war exercise to prepare for that possibility
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If it walks like a neocon, talks like a neocon...

 
Rove! said:
she has also sated that some examples of the free press "have no right to exist"

think on that one...
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No she didn't. 

What I assume you are referring to is a fundraising memo, probably not actually written by her, that contrasted mainstream conservative media with alt-right garbage like Breitbart. In describing the former she says she doesn't like them but she "respects their role and their right to exist."  Then she contrasted them with the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory-spouting garbage that comes from Breitbart, which she called "something different."

A bunch of oversensitive whiny crybabies who apparently don't pay much attention to the anti-First Amendment rhetoric of the other leading candidate for president chose to interpret the phrase "something different" as meaning that, in contrast with mainstream conservative media, they don't have a right to exist. But that's not what the memo said at all. She never said that she had no right to exist or that she'd shut them down or anything close to that. Do better.

 
Rove! said:
" Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with Hubris" - Colin Powell
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This was Powell complaining that he lost a speaking engagement because the University had already paid for Hillary.  I'm not sure I'd put too much stock into it, particularly from Powell, who's most prominent talent is in leaking enough information to friendly reporters to preserve his reputation when #### is screwed up (see, his last few years in the Bush administration). 

 
Seth Meyers 10/5 (especially 4:45 and 6:40 to 10:00 mark)

Mike Pence Pretends Donald Trump Isn't His Running Mate: A Closer Look              

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c2UyOloZ-0

"One of our Presidential nominees is a man-child who can't be trusted to tweet without adult supervision."

Also touches on Trump maybe not appreciating and even being jealous that Pence was UNIVERSALLY lauded for being a much better debater than Trump (and in part for denying Trump said many things he clearly did, as well as diverging wildly on some areas such as foreign policy with Russia/Putin, effectively throwing him under the bus). But I wouldn't use that to drive a wedge between Trump and Pence. Seriously, though, does Pence have freakishly large hands, he looks like he could palm a medicine ball?

The VP debate wasn't nearly as anticipated as the Presidential counterparts, but perhaps it should have been? Reportedly before Spence was offered the job (not his first choice?) Kasich was told by Trump's organization that if he were VP, he would have more or less complete autonomy on both foreign AND domestic policy, while Trump focused on "Making America Great Again" - presumably building the wall, organizing the deportation force storm troopers goon squad, etc.    

 
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Rove! said:
supported the overthrow of  the goverment in Honduras which has led to a mass increase in violence and bloodshed
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The President was attempting to rewrite the Constitution to stay in power - you support that?

The 2009 Honduran constitutional crisis[1][2][3] was a political dispute over plans to rewrite the Constitution of Honduras. It began when Honduran President Manuel Zelaya planned to hold a poll on a referendum on a constituent assembly to change the constitution. A majority of the government, including the Supreme Court and prominent members of his own party, saw such plans as unconstitutional,[4][5] as they could lead to presidential re-election, which is permanently outlawed by the Honduran constitution.[6][7] The Honduran Supreme Court had upheld a lower court injunction against the 28 June poll.[8] However, the constitutional process for dealing with this situation was unclear; there were no clear procedures for removing or prosecuting a sitting president. The crisis culminated in the removal and exile of Honduran President Manuel Zelaya by the Honduran military in a coup d'état.
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Making decisions in foreign policy is a lot like being an NFL coach.  People don't care about the decision itself, only the outcome. 

Hillary voted to support the commitment of forces to force regime change in Iraq.  She is, rightly or wrongly, criticized for it.

Hillary chose to support regime change in Libya without committing forces.  She is criticized for it.

Hillary and the Obama administration largely resisted the temptation to work toward regime change in Syria.  She is criticized for it.

So what one policy should she always have supported?  Nobody can answer that.  It's like choosing whether to go for it on 4th and 4 on the 50 yard line when you're down by 2 with 5 minutes left in the fourth quarter.  If you lose, everybody is going to say you made the wrong decision. 

 
Rove! said:
destoyed Libya where the "rebels" carried out a racial genocide

armed terrorists in Syria which instigated the biggest humanitarian crisis of most of our lifetimes.

He strategy for Syria intervention has re-ignited the cold war and has Russia doing a massive nuclear war exercise to prepare for that possibility
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Libya will be better off in the long run.

Syria was going to be a mess regardless of what anyone did.  And seriously, #### Russia, they're nothing to be afraid of.

 
cstu said:
Wrong - voted to let Bush decide whether to invade Iraq. 
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This is revisionist history.  Everybody knew at the time that a vote to give Bush authority to go to war was a vote for war.  We debated the run-up to the Iraq war practically non-stop for months around here.  

 
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