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When they perform their 2016 autopsy, one thing Republicans seriously need to address is the current 33-point(!) deficit they are facing with the women's vote. This board has a fairly understandable tendency to downplay women's issues and women's increasing roles in positions of power but they account for 53% of the electorate and are earning college degrees at higher rates than their male counterparts. Much like they can't enact hostile legislation against minorities and expect to be rewarded for it at the ballot box, the GOP ignores the issues that women care about at their own risk. They cannot win going forward with backward hat guy as their main base of support.

Uh, sorry, Aaron.

 
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Gr00vus said:
massraider said:
Michelle Obama is so awesome.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/04/politics/michelle-obama-donald-trump-microphone/index.html?client=ms-android-sprint-us
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Your 2024 Democratic Candidate.
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Could happen.

1988 president. Followed by the 1992 president. Followed by the 1988 president's son. Followed by another guy in 2008, where the 1992 guy's wife is no. 3 (SOS). Followed by the wife of the 1992 president. Followed by the wife of the 2008 president.

I see no problem here.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Could happen.

1988 president. Followed by the 1992 president. Followed by the 1988 president's son. Followed by another guy in 2008, where the 1992 guy's wife is no. 3 (SOS). Followed by the wife of the 1992 president. Followed by the wife of the 2008 president.

I see no problem here.
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Only a problem if they do a bad job.  Of those only the 1988 President's son did that.  I think his other son would have been fine as well.

ETA: TR/FDR were two of our best Presidents.  Both Adams were good Presidents. The Harrisons were one ok and one bad.  Madison was one of our best Presidents but his second cousin Zachary Taylor died after a year in office.

 
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massraider said:
http://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/news/a49504/conservative-woman-tweet-storm/

Conservative women goes off on Twitter.  
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He has turned the Wisconsin GOP core upside down, exposed them as having no compass, no principles. Walker dropped out of the race early supposedly as the first of the anti-Trump movement (that was his excuse anyway). Priebus, Ryan and Walker were all bitterly opposed in the primary, behind Cruz, anyone but Trump camp. Then a few months later, there they all were on stage in Cleveland endorsing him. Now, off the ship they jump. Complete frauds and charlatans. It's really strange it took the groping thing to open the eyes of people like this woman, since it was so unsurprising for most of us, but she's spot on with these spineless frauds who claim to be party leaders. Imagine being an honest conservative who supports Paul Ryan - his supporters have to feel like garbage the way he's acted this year. 

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
Trump has enough momentum to start up a third party if so wanted.   Trump has the RNC just tearing each other apart.  I am still waiting for Trump to tell us that he was running a long con on the RNC the whole time.  
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I suppose they could try but I'd expect them to fail since they'll be even more far right wing than the current GOP. Since they'll be competing for the same voters it would lead to Democrats winning elections due to the split vote and the factions would soon reunite. For example the Democratic party split in 1948 with the Southern faction starting the Dixiecrats. I believe their candidate, Strom Thurmond, even won a few electoral votes in the election.

 
At first I considered it ridiculous that he would start his own Party - but question, how much money is it?

 
Jackstraw said:
Why do Trumps own rape allegations seem to be getting a pass? His ex wife testified in a sworn deposition he raped her. 
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He also has a rape allegation in a lawsuit by a woman who claimed she was (very) underage at the time. :shrug: The press really seems to find this stuff unsavory. Maybe that's right, maybe not, but they seem to leave it to the Enquirer. Of course if the Enquirer reports it, no one one believes it. IIRC Edwards' affair hit the front page because of campaign finance and extortion claims getting mixed into a criminal investigation.

 
fantasycurse42 said:
Not taking a stance here, but I for one don't take toooooooo much credence in winningdemocrats.com
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Granted that was a biased site, here's the source.

In an informal survey of 109 professional historians conducted over a three-week period through the History News Network, 98.2 percent assessed the presidency of Mr. Bush to be a failure while 1.8 percent classified it as a success.



Asked to rank the presidency of George W. Bush in comparison to those of the other 41 American presidents, more than 61 percent of the historians concluded that the current presidency is the worst in the nation’s history. Another 35 percent of the historians surveyed rated the Bush presidency in the 31st to 41st category, while only four of the 109 respondents ranked the current presidency as even among the top two-thirds of American administrations.



At least two of those who ranked the current president in the 31-41 ranking made it clear that they placed him next-to-last, with only James Buchanan, in their view, being worse. “He is easily one of the 10-worst of all time and—if the magnitude of the challenges and opportunities matter—then probably in the bottom five, alongside Buchanan, Johnson, Fillmore, and Pierce,” wrote another historian.
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When they perform their 2016 autopsy, one thing Republicans seriously need to address is the current 33-point(!) deficit they are facing with the women's vote. This board has a fairly understandable tendency to downplay women's issues and women's increasing roles in positions of power but they account for 53% of the electorate and are earning college degrees at higher rates than their male counterparts. Much like they can't enact hostile legislation against minorities and expect to be rewarded for it at the ballot box, the GOP ignores the issues that women care about at their own risk. They cannot win going forward with backward hat guy as their main base of support.

Uh, sorry, Aaron.
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Yeah, I get why people see those rallies and think there's a chance, but once Donald is back to his normal life of reading about himself, these mouth breathers will lose interest. 

What, they are going to run down and vote in midterm elections to get some alt-right jagoff they've never heard of win some congressional seat?

Nah, they'll return to their life of posting gun memes on Facebook, and starting fights with other drivers.

 
Foreign-born scientists winning Nobel Prizes for the US is not a 2016 anomaly. In an article for The Huffington Post in December 2015, James Witte, the director of the Institute for Immigration Research at George Mason University, wrote that from 1901 to 2015, 31 percent of US Nobel laureates were not born in the US, although no more than 15 percent of Americans were ever foreign-born during that time.

Increasingly, American immigrants are highly skilled and highly educated, according to a September report from The National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine. "The prospects for long run economic growth in the United States would be considerably dimmed without the contributions of high-skilled immigrants," the researchers wrote.

While the US is credited by many of these scientists for providing robust research opportunities for immigrant scientists, the simmering anti-immigrant sentiment in the country during this election season also elicits concern for some.

Phil Baty, the rankings editor for the Times Higher Education, told Inside Higher Ed that Nobel Prizes are an example of how global collaborative efforts produce "groundbreaking results," a point that he thinks politicians should remember.

"But the 2016 Nobels should also serve as a serious warning to those politicians, most notably in the U.K., but also of course in the U.S. and elsewhere, who would seek to place major restrictions on the free movement of international talent," Mr. Baty said. "This would be a serious blow to science, and in turn a serious blow to humanity."
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massraider said:
Yeah, I get why people see those rallies and think there's a chance, but once Donald is back to his normal life of reading about himself, these mouth breathers will lose interest. 

What, they are going to run down and vote in midterm elections to get some alt-right jagoff they've never heard of win some congressional seat?

Nah, they'll return to their life of posting gun memes on Facebook, and starting fights with other drivers.
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Exactly.  They are having their Frank the Tank "Streaking the quad" moment right now.  But when the election hits and the cries of "rigged" die down, they will just go back to beating up their wives and kids in the name of decency and watching Duck Dynasty.  

to be honest, the thing I am most concerned with is Trump causing a massive shift in power to the left.  I'm a centrist Democrat (social liberal and fiscal conservative) and I am concerned that it's going to be a left wing bonanza for at least 2-4 years.  A blank check for either side is not a good thing.  

Although I'd love to see a real shift away from fossil fuels (which I doubt Hillary does).  

 
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Jackstraw said:
Why do Trumps own rape allegations seem to be getting a pass? His ex wife testified in a sworn deposition he raped her. 
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Honestly, I think Trump is such a terrible candidate -- and terrible human being -- on so many different dimensions that it's hard for any one particular story to get a lot of individual play.  If the media spent a lot of time on his rape allegations, they'd be short-changing his threat on live national television to throw his opponent in jail.  Or his desire to execute minors who were exonerated of a crime.  Or his penchant for #####-grabbing.  Or whatever other atrocity you happen to fancy.  I'm sure I've lost track of one or two.  

Dead serious about this.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Honestly, I think Trump is such a terrible candidate -- and terrible human being -- on so many different dimensions that it's hard for any one particular story to get a lot of individual play.  If the media spent a lot of time on his rape allegations, they'd be short-changing his threat on live national television to throw his opponent in jail.  Or his desire to execute minors who were exonerated of a crime.  Or his penchant for #####-grabbing.  Or whatever other atrocity you happen to fancy.  I'm sure I've lost track of one or two.  

Dead serious about this.
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This is an unfortunately :goodposting:

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Honestly, I think Trump is such a terrible candidate -- and terrible human being -- on so many different dimensions that it's hard for any one particular story to get a lot of individual play.  If the media spent a lot of time on his rape allegations, they'd be short-changing his threat on live national television to throw his opponent in jail.  Or his desire to execute minors who were exonerated of a crime.  Or his penchant for #####-grabbing.  Or whatever other atrocity you happen to fancy.  I'm sure I've lost track of one or two.  

Dead serious about this.
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In describing this phenomenon we've been going with Denial of Service Attack and my preferred analogy, Three Stooges Syndrome

 
Sabertooth said:
to be honest, the thing I am most concerned with is Trump causing a massive shift in power to the left.  I'm a centrist Democrat (social liberal and fiscal conservative) and I am concerned that it's going to be a left wing bonanza for at least 2-4 years.  A blank check for either side is not a good thing.  
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Something similar to this happened in Canada back in the mid 90s. The right wing party split into two, and ensured the left wing party a majority government for a decade.  It was not a good thing :(

 
Jackstraw said:
Why do Trumps own rape allegations seem to be getting a pass? His ex wife testified in a sworn deposition he raped her. 
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Because either:

  • the Clinton's are saving them
  • they don't need them to beat him
  • or god forbid they have a modicum of decency for Ivana and don't want her dragged through the mud.    

 
One of the strangest aspects about this election is the fact that at the same time that Trump supporters (and Republicans in general) believe that times are terrible, Obama has a 55% approval rating. 

This simply makes no sense. If I were a historian trying to predict the rise of a populist, demagogue candidate like Trump (or the Tea Party that preceded it) I would have also predicted a severe economic downturn and a current President with approval ratings in the low 30s or below. We have neither of those factors yet we still have Trump. 

 
Jackstraw said:
Why do Trumps own rape allegations seem to be getting a pass? His ex wife testified in a sworn deposition he raped her. 
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I think Ivana later recanted her claim, saying it wasn't literal and she just meant "rough sex". So even if she changed her story under pressure, it's still a dead end to press that case if she wouldn't say it herself.

At the second debate, Hillary did get Trump to deny there was any "action" on his part and it was all just "talk". His public denial opens up the door for any potential accusers that may be out there. I think the Hillary camp is hoping for a Cosby-like wave of accusers to come forward. It would be much more powerful coming from the women themselves instead of the Dems pointing the finger. 

 
timschochet said:
One of the strangest aspects about this election is the fact that at the same time that Trump supporters (and Republicans in general) believe that times are terrible, Obama has a 55% approval rating. 
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Yeah but he's black and gay people are allowed to get married now, so, you know....times are terrible for some people.

 
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Don't forget a few lightweight campus protests and football players refusing to stand for the national anthem. ### #### country is falling apart.
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This country was founded on conservative principles, namely the rights to not bake cakes for gay weddings, not let transgendered people into certain bathrooms, and to walk around Main Street USA with an AK strapped to my back.

 
Steve Tasker said:
This country was founded on conservative principles, namely the rights to not bake cakes for gay weddings, not let transgendered people into certain bathrooms, and to walk around Main Street USA with an AK strapped to my back.
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Top 5 tweet of the election cycle so far IMO:


 


rob whisman ‏@robwhisman


it's sad how seriously we're taking stuff trump said 11 years ago. also a bunch of dead dudes said i could bring my shotgun into this kroger
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In Wisconsin, we have a contested senate race between incumbent Ron Johnson who rode a tea party wave into office in 2011, against a strong left candidate, former senator Russ Feingold, whom Johnson knocked out of office in 2011. Johnson is spinning in circles over Trump. His press people must have the hardest job in politics right now. Last spring he took the bizarre position that he "supported" Trump but did not "endorse" him. With Paul Ryan (Wisconsin congressman and speaker of the House) doing the double reverse pivot and now in open, direct conflict with Trump, Johnson has essentially shut down on the issue - I suppose just waiting to see where the wind blows him next. He is now calling Trump "indefensible", but saying he has "not withdrawn his support", while is still "not endorsing" Trump.   :crazy:

Meanwhile, Feingold is building a small lead in the polls and it seems certainly possible the Democrats might win that seat back. Our other senator is an open lesbian and career politician from Madison, hard left. Our Governor is the Koch bros poster child, and we are also home to RNC chair Reince Preibus - both seem to be in "no comment" territory on Trump this week, paralyzed from fear and unable to take a position. Purple states are fun. Luckily for me, thanks to a panel of three conservative judges on the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals, I was able to vote last week and happily cast my ballot for the same guy I supported in 2012.

 
What are the chances these donors/bundlers actually get their money back?

The fundraiser, or "bundler," who collected the donations said that the two donors together have contributed or raised tens of thousands of dollars for Trump. Bundlers, common in major party presidential campaigns, are supporters who tap into their own networks to raise money for a candidate.

This bundler, who says he has raised close to $1 million for Trump, said he, too, is fed up with the nominee and has informed the Trump Victory fundraising leaders that he's done raising money for the candidate.

"I give up. I'm totally walking out and disappointed, and the last 72 hours I have lost sleep over it," the bundler, who was granted anonymity in order to speak freely, said in a telephone interview.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/major-gop-donors-are-asking-trump-their-money-back-n664661

 
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