Sammy3469
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Yeah...my boss got hit up for the "last" Trump fundraiser in NYC. He just laughed.
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igbomb
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538 has the WI seat pretty firmly in Feingold's favor. Sitting at 86% chance to win. I've followed this one a bit since WI is my home state and except for one poll last week, every single one has gone Feingold's way.CletiusMaximus said:In Wisconsin, we have a contested senate race between incumbent Ron Johnson who rode a tea party wave into office in 2011, against a strong left candidate, former senator Russ Feingold, whom Johnson knocked out of office in 2011. Johnson is spinning in circles over Trump. His press people must have the hardest job in politics right now. Last spring he took the bizarre position that he "supported" Trump but did not "endorse" him. With Paul Ryan (Wisconsin congressman and speaker of the House) doing the double reverse pivot and now in open, direct conflict with Trump, Johnson has essentially shut down on the issue - I suppose just waiting to see where the wind blows him next. He is now calling Trump "indefensible", but saying he has "not withdrawn his support", while is still "not endorsing" Trump.
Meanwhile, Feingold is building a small lead in the polls and it seems certainly possible the Democrats might win that seat back. Our other senator is an open lesbian and career politician from Madison, hard left. Our Governor is the Koch bros poster child, and we are also home to RNC chair Reince Preibus - both seem to be in "no comment" territory on Trump this week, paralyzed from fear and unable to take a position. Purple states are fun. Luckily for me, thanks to a panel of three conservative judges on the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals, I was able to vote last week and happily cast my ballot for the same guy I supported in 2012.
3C's
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Did not see this defense coming. <- 
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/sam-clovis-trump-faith-journey/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/sam-clovis-trump-faith-journey/
massraider
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New York Times is tracking the people, places, and things that Born Again Trump has insulted.Did not see this defense coming. <-
Bug fan of the way Man of God Trump used rape accusers for his own political gain.
Jeremy
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Weren't we all trouble youths in our late 50s? It's really takes a half dozen decades or more to really find on best selves and see God clearly.Did not see this defense coming. <-
Sabertooth
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I know nothing about Canada that I didn't learn rom strange Brew. Is this what ushered in the Heath care system?The Duff Man said:
Koya
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Boys will be boys... Donald will be Donald.IvanKaramazov said:
It's a very good insight, imo. Plus, the contant, every day, in your face ridiculousness can't but help numb you to it after over a year of this now. We are desensitized by the hyperbolic that is not hyperbole and it's almost passed off as not believable and/or a joke.
IvanKaramazov
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I read this asSteve Tasker said:
I had to do a double-take there.
SaintsInDome2006
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/10/12/former-miss-arizona-trump-just-came-strolling-right-in-on-naked-contestants/?postshare=241476271495317&tid=ss_tw
- There we go, just let it all out. It will be over soon.
Joe Summer
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Ivan from SD:
Also, they were definitely guilty of something. I mean, nobody goes out to a park late at night without intending to rape someone, right?
Hey, technically they're not minors anymore!
Also, they were definitely guilty of something. I mean, nobody goes out to a park late at night without intending to rape someone, right?
CBus Alex
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That list may be a bit overstated. For example, I was surprised to see Rodrigo Duterte on there, but when I clicked on the link it turns out Trump wasn't insulting Duterte at all, he was insulting Obama for failing to gain Duterte's respect.
Koya
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I believe Trump is on record stating flat out that "12 is too young"
Granted, that could mean his lower threshold is 18, 17, 16.... um, 15.....
But is SURE SEEMS to suggest that 12 is the cut off, 13 being "ok" (fwiw, I believe that is the age of the Jane Doe in the ongoing rape whatever it is, dont know if its an investigation, an accusation, whatever). I mean, who else would get away with 1/10th this baggage?
Bob Magaw
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
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It's kind of like a Fogo de Chao of potentially disqualifying stories. You have to impose some type of strategy on yourself because you don't want to fill the public upon on the chicken thighs/slander of a federal judge when you just know some gaucho will be around soon to serve you the sirloin/leering at naked 15 year olds.TobiasFunke said:
Amused to Death
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Kinda troubling that it took his campaign co-chair to adequately convey that to the American people. Guess the candidate is unable to articulate a proper explanation. Wonder what happened to all of the best words his knows?Did not see this defense coming. <-
squistion
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From the link:
Separately, BuzzFeed News reported Wednesday that four women in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Trump walked into their dressing room while they were changing. Some were as young as 15, BuzzFeed reported.
Three spoke anonymously, and one allowed her name to be used. “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,'” Mariah Billado, a former Miss Vermont Teen USA, told BuzzFeed.
Trump, she told BuzzFeed News, said “something like ‘Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.'”
Ramsay Hunt Experience
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Here is what I will never understand about Trump. I think we can all pretty much agree that his chief appeal seems to be that he sells himself as an alpha. A master of the universe in business, entertainment, and between the sheets. But have you ever heard any candidate for office whine so much? The Iowas Caucuses were rigged. The press is unfair to him. Hillary is saying mean things about him in ads (sorry, Crooked Hillary is saying mean things about him in ads). Republicans are being disloyal (you'd think his 5 years as a Republican would earn him some loyalty, you know).
If you're the type to talk about the wussification of America, well first I'm sorry for you, but wouldn't Trump be your Exhibit A?
If you're the type to talk about the wussification of America, well first I'm sorry for you, but wouldn't Trump be your Exhibit A?
CletiusMaximus
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I guess it's hard to say what effect if any the Trump candidacy has on this race, but I expected Johnson would be in the driver's seat. There are a two court of appeals openings right now, one that's been lingering for some time due to Johnson and Baldwin not being on speaking terms. It could swing the 7th circuit from right to left.
Sammy3469
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In his mind, ee needs advisories he can defeat. Just look in the past 2 weeks. It goes from the Miss Universe lady to Bill Clinton to Paul Ryan with CNN and the debate thrown in. If he isn't actively defeating something/someone in his mind he's not alpha.
But yes at this point all this just looks like uncontrolled whining to a majority of the electorate. What was alpha up until the first debate is now whining. While the tape is the shiny object, that first debate unmasked him to people as a two-bit bully who can't control himself. The tape just reinforced that perception with an added dose of creepiness and misogyny.
Joe Summer
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Yeah but it fits right in with the "War On Christmas™" / "End Welfare Except For My Disability Checks" crowd.
SaintsInDome2006
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I have no idea what's going to happen.- Gop's could stay home.
- Gop's could vote indy/3rd party.
- Gop's could vote Hillary and feel they need to balance the Congress with opposite votes.
GOP could lose one house, lose both, or keep both. No idea.
Willie Neslon
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cstu
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CletiusMaximus said:In Wisconsin, we have a contested senate race between incumbent Ron Johnson who rode a tea party wave into office in 2011, against a strong left candidate, former senator Russ Feingold, whom Johnson knocked out of office in 2011. Johnson is spinning in circles over Trump. His press people must have the hardest job in politics right now. Last spring he took the bizarre position that he "supported" Trump but did not "endorse" him. With Paul Ryan (Wisconsin congressman and speaker of the House) doing the double reverse pivot and now in open, direct conflict with Trump, Johnson has essentially shut down on the issue - I suppose just waiting to see where the wind blows him next. He is now calling Trump "indefensible", but saying he has "not withdrawn his support", while is still "not endorsing" Trump.
Meanwhile, Feingold is building a small lead in the polls and it seems certainly possible the Democrats might win that seat back. Our other senator is an open lesbian and career politician from Madison, hard left. Our Governor is the Koch bros poster child, and we are also home to RNC chair Reince Preibus - both seem to be in "no comment" territory on Trump this week, paralyzed from fear and unable to take a position. Purple states are fun. Luckily for me, thanks to a panel of three conservative judges on the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals, I was able to vote last week and happily cast my ballot for the same guy I supported in 2012.
If Ryan wants to be President someday he must take a hard stance against Trump.
SaintsInDome2006
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Trump endorsed one candidate this past year, Ellmers in NC, an incumbent she lost her seat in the primary to another Republican.
Trump has been bluffing and FOS all year long and it's time they call him on his bs.
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CletiusMaximus
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Meanwhile, his casual threat to abandon our NATO allies is like the neglected salad bar in the corner, wilted lettuce, ignored by all but the most dedicated diners.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
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DON'T BINGE ON THE NATO, MAN!
I'm hoping his concession speech is like when they roll that trolley of scotch up to me after my 30th ounce of steak. I know better, but I'm definitely going to indulge myself.
Jayrod
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Trump is a disgusting human being. He has done absolutely nothing in his entire life that should qualify him to be President of the United States. He has continually said outrageous things and the latest comments about groping women are dispicable. He is a compulsive liar and a likely narcissist. Trying to bully people, making outrageous claims and snide comments aren't qualifications for the Presidency. I'm seriously pissed at everyone who voted for this lunatic in the primary. He has handed a completely despicable person, Hillary, the Presidency. We are all losers now.
Koya
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I agree with you until this point. Because it is the very approach the GOP, Fox, the base have taken for over a decade now that led to the villification of Hillary.
She is a faulted person. Emminently qualified for the position, but has the baggage of actually doing things, making decisions, casting votes, over the last two decades.
That said, if you call her a "despicable person" (which she is not, and I don't like her, mind you, and hold a bigger grudge for her carpet bagging into my state) then OWN THE RESULT. You are part of the problem that led to Trump winning that handed the presidency to Hillary as you state.
If you raise the devil, can't keep the devil down. You all raised it, here's the result. Can't have it both ways.
Gr00vus
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On first blush you'd say, a fool and his money, yada yada yada. But I don't think they want their money back because of what Trump said in the tape. I think they knew exactly what they were buying in terms of his character. I think they want their money back because they're now certain he's going to lose and they are not going to get the return on their investment they expected when Trump got into office. So their stupidity isn't at the surface level (buying into the crap Trump's been selling), it's on a secondary level in thinking that he was adept enough to keep the worst evidence of his ### holery from surfacing such that enough of the U.S. would buy into the crap he was selling to get him into office.Sammy3469 said:
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Andy Dufresne
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Trump is like Blake from "Glengarry Glen Ross" come to life:
"You want to know what it takes to get votes? It takes BRASS BALLS to get votes. Go and do likewise gents. The votes out there. You pick them up, they're yours. You don't, I got no sympathy for you. You wanna go out on those sits tonight and close, CLOSE. They're yours. If not you're gonna be shining my shoes. And you know what you'll be saying - a bunch of losers sittin' around in a bar. 'Oh yeah. I used to be a campaigner. It's a tough racket.' These are the new leads. These are the Tea Party leads. And to you they're gold, and you don't get them. Why? Because to give them to you is just throwing them away. They're for closers. I'd wish you good luck but you wouldn't know what to do with it if you got it. And to answer your question, pal, why am I here? I came here because Hannity and Kid Rock asked me to. They asked me for a favor. I said the real favor, follow my advice and fire your ####### ### because a loser is a loser."
"You want to know what it takes to get votes? It takes BRASS BALLS to get votes. Go and do likewise gents. The votes out there. You pick them up, they're yours. You don't, I got no sympathy for you. You wanna go out on those sits tonight and close, CLOSE. They're yours. If not you're gonna be shining my shoes. And you know what you'll be saying - a bunch of losers sittin' around in a bar. 'Oh yeah. I used to be a campaigner. It's a tough racket.' These are the new leads. These are the Tea Party leads. And to you they're gold, and you don't get them. Why? Because to give them to you is just throwing them away. They're for closers. I'd wish you good luck but you wouldn't know what to do with it if you got it. And to answer your question, pal, why am I here? I came here because Hannity and Kid Rock asked me to. They asked me for a favor. I said the real favor, follow my advice and fire your ####### ### because a loser is a loser."
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Grace Under Pressure
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Both of these are correct. It's never enough with the hyperbole on Hillary. She's not just bad, she's the worst. She's disgusting, vile, evil. Should be put in jail. These are examples of unrealistic emotionally based rhetoric coming from the outlets named above. I don't like her, she's above people in her opinion, and she is disingenuous. But when the attacks start getting unrealistic, I'm out on that nonsense.
badmojo1006
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Steve Tasker
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I live in a solidly D district in a D state (NY 26), so my vote doesn't really matter, but I generally vote all over the board....Dem, GOP, Libertarian, Conservative, Green, etc., depending on the individual race. For the first time I'm actually considering not voting for any GOP candidates on principle just based on how this presidential campaign has played out.
- Gop's could stay home.
- Gop's could vote indy/3rd party.
- Gop's could vote Hillary and feel they need to balance the Congress with opposite votes.
GOP could lose one house, lose both, or keep both. No idea.
JerseyToughGuys
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Trump...hand over power? Yeah......that sounds like the Trump we all know and love.
No, he will delegate* and blame / take credit and still #### it all up.
*except for the groping and or groping jokes.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Sounds a lot like the religious nuts who are justifying a Trump vote by praying for his timely death.
Amused to Death
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Grace Under Pressure
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TobiasFunke
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RBM
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massraider
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parrot
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Don't forget the part where he is going to "open up libel laws" so people can't go around saying mean things like he's not as rich as he claims to be, even though libel laws are state laws.
It has gotten this bad because sites like Breitbart, RedFlag News, and Infowars are the sole news sources for many people. FOX News is right-biased, but they generally fact check and at least have differing viewpoints. They might rip into differing viewpoints, but at least they are presented. That's not acceptable to some. These other sites take the slant to the extreme. They post only right-wing propaganda, often create - or at least embellish - stories, and never offer even a centrist thought - much less a liberal or progressive idea. Someone using these sites exclusively for their news has no chance at being anything other than misinformed. They show up to Trump rallies, see other like-minded people, and that only reinforces their mindset.
It's sad.
squistion
Footballguy
Wonder what Trump supporters here who have teenage daughters, like HellToupee, think of his walking in the dressing room of naked contestants in MIss Teen USA pagent?
HeavyMatt04
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