ETN was ADP 51 in this format before the season. Brutal return for what was considered a 5th round startup12 Team best ball SF TEP (start 10)
Gave: 2025 2nd (early), 2025 3rd (early)
Got: Travis Etienne
Brutal rebuild started in 2024. Traded away some assets pre-draft for a good number of 2025 2nd rounders and 3rd rounders. Have started using some of the 2nds on buy low candidates like Etienne who I think will rebound in 2025.
ETN was ADP 51 in this format before the season. Brutal return for what was considered a 5th round startup12 Team best ball SF TEP (start 10)
Gave: 2025 2nd (early), 2025 3rd (early)
Got: Travis Etienne
Brutal rebuild started in 2024. Traded away some assets pre-draft for a good number of 2025 2nd rounders and 3rd rounders. Have started using some of the 2nds on buy low candidates like Etienne who I think will rebound in 2025.
Nice for both side16 team 1 QB TE Prem PPR
DJ Moore and Freiermuth and LAC DEF and a 2025 3rd round pick (projected early)
for
2025 1st (projected late)
Man, I tried to get ‘Muth in TEP & dude rejected every offer.
Nice for both side16 team 1 QB TE Prem PPR
DJ Moore and Freiermuth and LAC DEF and a 2025 3rd round pick (projected early)
for
2025 1st (projected late)
Dang .. I am trying to get DJ Moore ... / offered Addison & early 2nd but no deal
Kind of crazy someone throws in Freiermuth and a defense on top for just a single late 1st.Man, I tried to get ‘Muth in TEP & dude rejected every offer.
Nice for both side16 team 1 QB TE Prem PPR
DJ Moore and Freiermuth and LAC DEF and a 2025 3rd round pick (projected early)
for
2025 1st (projected late)
Dang .. I am trying to get DJ Moore ... / offered Addison & early 2nd but no deal
Dude said he’d need “multiple 1sts” to move him in that format & that’s just unrealistic at this point.
This is a very reasonable price for Muth+DJ.
He’s a regular PT Barnum.This is how that guy does it every year every league I am in he waits for teams to fall out of the playoff race and gets bargain deals in trades then the next year if needed he will retrade them for similar or even more value.
That’s a really solid deal for you.12 team SF 0.5 PPR.
Gave: Olave, 2.01 (99%. 2.02 at worst), ‘26 1st
Got: Brian Thomas, James Cook
That is what they call a fleecing. Thomas & cook, easily the better sideThat’s a really solid deal for you.12 team SF 0.5 PPR.
Gave: Olave, 2.01 (99%. 2.02 at worst), ‘26 1st
Got: Brian Thomas, James Cook
While I like the BTJ+Cook side, I believe it’s closer than you have it - the 1st & early 2nd are nice picks. Cooks value is taking a hit with the emergence of Ray Davis, making Cook less of a league-winner than folks projected, and more of a matchup/game-script dependent asset.That is what they call a fleecing. Thomas & cook, easily the better sideThat’s a really solid deal for you.12 team SF 0.5 PPR.
Gave: Olave, 2.01 (99%. 2.02 at worst), ‘26 1st
Got: Brian Thomas, James Cook
Cook is currently 9th (RB) in my PPR league in total points. This is with missing a game to injury. He is also coming off a 31 point effort last week. He is on pace to have a fantastic year.While I like the BTJ+Cook side, I believe it’s closer than you have it - the 1st & early 2nd are nice picks. Cooks value is taking a hit with the emergence of Ray Davis, making Cook less of a league-winner than folks projected, and more of a matchup/game-script dependent asset.That is what they call a fleecing. Thomas & cook, easily the better sideThat’s a really solid deal for you.12 team SF 0.5 PPR.
Gave: Olave, 2.01 (99%. 2.02 at worst), ‘26 1st
Got: Brian Thomas, James Cook
So it comes down to Olave Vs BTJ. I’ve seen flashes from Olave - I know he’s lost a lot of shine from the FF community, but dude is capable of elite level play. BTJ has looked great, but has yet to dominate snap share. With Kirk hurt & Davis an afterthought he’s gonna eat this year (once healthy) but it’s hard to say whether Olave or BTJ goes on to the better career.
I’d say 60% chance the BTJ side wins this deal in the long run - I could see buying Olave + the picks for that price too though. Seems like chances are good at a top 5 1st rounder in 2026 as well.
Right. The 31 point game did a lot to elevate him in the rankings.Cook is currently 9th (RB) in my PPR league in total points. This is with missing a game to injury. He is also coming off a 31 point effort last week. He is on pace to have a fantastic year.
Right. The 31 point game did a lot to elevate him in the rankings.Cook is currently 9th (RB) in my PPR league in total points. This is with missing a game to injury. He is also coming off a 31 point effort last week. He is on pace to have a fantastic year.
He’s also had games of ~7, and ~11 points this year. 2 over 30, and 2 around 20. And missed a game, as you pointed out.
He’s a fine asset. Not saying he’s not.
But that’s more of a RBBC than people anticipated, and with Allen a rushing QB, it’s harder to project Cook than before the Bills spent a pick on Davis. He’s definitely a complimentary back to Cook.
I’m not bashing on Cook at all. I’m just saying that if Olave & BTJ are about equal (and IMO the jury is out on who will be more valuable but it could go either way) then that’s a 1st + 2nd for Cook, which seems like a lot.
So no need to defend Cook here. I’m just saying I understand both sides of this deal, and don’t see it as a bargain either way. A lot is based on team needs & situation.
Like, I can’t even figure which side they’d be up in arms about. It seems like a fair deal.Right. The 31 point game did a lot to elevate him in the rankings.Cook is currently 9th (RB) in my PPR league in total points. This is with missing a game to injury. He is also coming off a 31 point effort last week. He is on pace to have a fantastic year.
He’s also had games of ~7, and ~11 points this year. 2 over 30, and 2 around 20. And missed a game, as you pointed out.
He’s a fine asset. Not saying he’s not.
But that’s more of a RBBC than people anticipated, and with Allen a rushing QB, it’s harder to project Cook than before the Bills spent a pick on Davis. He’s definitely a complimentary back to Cook.
I’m not bashing on Cook at all. I’m just saying that if Olave & BTJ are about equal (and IMO the jury is out on who will be more valuable but it could go either way) then that’s a 1st + 2nd for Cook, which seems like a lot.
So no need to defend Cook here. I’m just saying I understand both sides of this deal, and don’t see it as a bargain either way. A lot is based on team needs & situation.
Yeah. The league is up in arms about collusion because they think this trade was insane. I obviously like my side but don't think it was anything crazy.
While I like the BTJ+Cook side, I believe it’s closer than you have it - the 1st & early 2nd are nice picks. Cooks value is taking a hit with the emergence of Ray Davis, making Cook less of a league-winner than folks projected, and more of a matchup/game-script dependent asset.That is what they call a fleecing. Thomas & cook, easily the better sideThat’s a really solid deal for you.12 team SF 0.5 PPR.
Gave: Olave, 2.01 (99%. 2.02 at worst), ‘26 1st
Got: Brian Thomas, James Cook
So it comes down to Olave Vs BTJ. I’ve seen flashes from Olave - I know he’s lost a lot of shine from the FF community, but dude is capable of elite level play. BTJ has looked great, but has yet to dominate snap share. With Kirk hurt & Davis an afterthought he’s gonna eat this year (once healthy) but it’s hard to say whether Olave or BTJ goes on to the better career.
I’d say 60% chance the BTJ side wins this deal in the long run - I could see buying Olave + the picks for that price too though. Seems like chances are good at a top 5 1st rounder in 2026 as well.
16 team 1 QB TE Prem PPR
DJ Moore and Freiermuth and LAC DEF and a 2025 3rd round pick (projected early)
for
2025 1st (projected late)
Steal. Good for you.12 team SF that I’m heavily competing in yet my WR corps has been misfiring.
I got - Amon-Ra St Brown & Cedric Tillman
I gave up - Chris Olave, Keaton Mitchell, 26 1st, ‘26 3rd and ‘24 4th
Steal. Good for you.12 team SF that I’m heavily competing in yet my WR corps has been misfiring.
I got - Amon-Ra St Brown & Cedric Tillman
I gave up - Chris Olave, Keaton Mitchell, 26 1st, ‘26 3rd and ‘24 4th
I just don't see how Olave maintains his value. Carr isn't going anywhere. NO can't afford to move on from him. And now he's likely missing some time.Steal. Good for you.12 team SF that I’m heavily competing in yet my WR corps has been misfiring.
I got - Amon-Ra St Brown & Cedric Tillman
I gave up - Chris Olave, Keaton Mitchell, 26 1st, ‘26 3rd and ‘24 4th
I’m a big Tillman truther so he’s the sneaky part of this deal if he can keep progressing like I think . I had an initial Olave, 1st and Mitchell for Amon -Ra it was countered with him adding Demarcus Robinson and me the 4th. I asked what if I take Tillman instead of Robinson and the 3rd was added by me
Wow, that is a straight up heist for you. I've seen some head scratchers in here lately.12 team SF that I’m heavily competing in yet my WR corps has been misfiring.
I got - Amon-Ra St Brown & Cedric Tillman
I gave up - Chris Olave, Keaton Mitchell, 26 1st, ‘26 3rd and ‘24 4th
Or sit tight and ride Stroud as he will improve once Nico is back.12 team .5 PPR IDP league.
I’m 8-1, overall 1st place and second high scorer, so ‘win now’ mode. Just lost Dak for 4 weeks at least. That leaves me with only CJ Stroud and David Mills at QB (and Aiden O’Connell on IR). I can pick up Cooper Rush, if I bid high enough for him, but he isn’t bringing me a championship. There are no other free agent QB’s available.
So, the guy in last place has Kirk Cousins as his QB #3. Would you offer a 2025 second rounder for Cousins, or hope Dak is back for the playoffs?
Thanks!
Yeah, I’m fine playing Stroud the rest of the way, other than I don’t have anyone to cover his bye. Should have no problem making the playoffs either. I guess I’m scared of the Cowboys getting so far out of contention that they shelf Dak for the remainder of the season. Or, if Stroud goes down..Or sit tight and ride Stroud as he will improve once Nico is back.12 team .5 PPR IDP league.
I’m 8-1, overall 1st place and second high scorer, so ‘win now’ mode. Just lost Dak for 4 weeks at least. That leaves me with only CJ Stroud and David Mills at QB (and Aiden O’Connell on IR). I can pick up Cooper Rush, if I bid high enough for him, but he isn’t bringing me a championship. There are no other free agent QB’s available.
So, the guy in last place has Kirk Cousins as his QB #3. Would you offer a 2025 second rounder for Cousins, or hope Dak is back for the playoffs?
Thanks!
Why don’t you see what you can get for Dak ?Yeah, I’m fine playing Stroud the rest of the way, other than I don’t have anyone to cover his bye. Should have no problem making the playoffs either. I guess I’m scared of the Cowboys getting so far out of contention that they shelf Dak for the remainder of the season. Or, if Stroud goes down..Or sit tight and ride Stroud as he will improve once Nico is back.12 team .5 PPR IDP league.
I’m 8-1, overall 1st place and second high scorer, so ‘win now’ mode. Just lost Dak for 4 weeks at least. That leaves me with only CJ Stroud and David Mills at QB (and Aiden O’Connell on IR). I can pick up Cooper Rush, if I bid high enough for him, but he isn’t bringing me a championship. There are no other free agent QB’s available.
So, the guy in last place has Kirk Cousins as his QB #3. Would you offer a 2025 second rounder for Cousins, or hope Dak is back for the playoffs?
Thanks!
Feel really exposed at QB with 1 guy, and a trade deadline looming. If Dak doesn’t come back, and Stroud goes down, I’ve got no shot with an 8-1 team.
Thanks for replying!
Same guy has Trevor Lawrence, who’s ranked right about where Dak is dynasty wise, or slightly higher actually. Not sure how attractive Dak is right now, but I can look at rosters and see what guys may be obtainable.Why don’t you see what you can get for Dak ?Yeah, I’m fine playing Stroud the rest of the way, other than I don’t have anyone to cover his bye. Should have no problem making the playoffs either. I guess I’m scared of the Cowboys getting so far out of contention that they shelf Dak for the remainder of the season. Or, if Stroud goes down..Or sit tight and ride Stroud as he will improve once Nico is back.12 team .5 PPR IDP league.
I’m 8-1, overall 1st place and second high scorer, so ‘win now’ mode. Just lost Dak for 4 weeks at least. That leaves me with only CJ Stroud and David Mills at QB (and Aiden O’Connell on IR). I can pick up Cooper Rush, if I bid high enough for him, but he isn’t bringing me a championship. There are no other free agent QB’s available.
So, the guy in last place has Kirk Cousins as his QB #3. Would you offer a 2025 second rounder for Cousins, or hope Dak is back for the playoffs?
Thanks!
Feel really exposed at QB with 1 guy, and a trade deadline looming. If Dak doesn’t come back, and Stroud goes down, I’ve got no shot with an 8-1 team.
Thanks for replying!
I would rather have Brown over a late 1st in a 16 team league. That late first gives you someone you hope is at least Brown and a whole lot more risky, especially in a 16 team league. A late 1st in a 16 team league equates to a 2nd in a 12 team league. Let that sink in a moment.Just traded away Chase Brown for 2025 1st (late) in 16 team dynasty 1QB IDP
seems like you took advantage of himGot my buddy into a league with me and I'm kinda beating him over the head with this: "If you don't inquire about trades, you're never going to REALLY improve your team"
With that said, was just trying to see what a guy would need for a few players and lol he sent an offer that I accepted immediately.
Start 1 QB PPR 12 teamer
Joe Burrow
Brian Robinson
Kyle Pitts
for
Derek Carr
Kareem Hunt
Zach Ertz
2025 2nd (looks like it'll be 2.1/2.2 range)
CRIMINAL!Got my buddy into a league with me and I'm kinda beating him over the head with this: "If you don't inquire about trades, you're never going to REALLY improve your team"
With that said, was just trying to see what a guy would need for a few players and lol he sent an offer that I accepted immediately.
Start 1 QB PPR 12 teamer
Joe Burrow
Brian Robinson
Kyle Pitts
for
Derek Carr
Kareem Hunt
Zach Ertz
2025 2nd (looks like it'll be 2.1/2.2 range)
This trade puts your friendship at risk.Got my buddy into a league with me and I'm kinda beating him over the head with this: "If you don't inquire about trades, you're never going to REALLY improve your team"
With that said, was just trying to see what a guy would need for a few players and lol he sent an offer that I accepted immediately.
Start 1 QB PPR 12 teamer
Joe Burrow
Brian Robinson
Kyle Pitts
for
Derek Carr
Kareem Hunt
Zach Ertz
2025 2nd (looks like it'll be 2.1/2.2 range)
I had this happen a couple of days ago in our 14 team dynasty league. Was offered:This trade puts your friendship at risk.Got my buddy into a league with me and I'm kinda beating him over the head with this: "If you don't inquire about trades, you're never going to REALLY improve your team"
With that said, was just trying to see what a guy would need for a few players and lol he sent an offer that I accepted immediately.
Start 1 QB PPR 12 teamer
Joe Burrow
Brian Robinson
Kyle Pitts
for
Derek Carr
Kareem Hunt
Zach Ertz
2025 2nd (looks like it'll be 2.1/2.2 range)
"If you don't inquire about trades you're never really going to improve your team... (all while knowing he only talks to you, since he is a new leaguemate)."Got my buddy into a league with me and I'm kinda beating him over the head with this: "If you don't inquire about trades, you're never going to REALLY improve your team"
With that said, was just trying to see what a guy would need for a few players and lol he sent an offer that I accepted immediately.
Start 1 QB PPR 12 teamer
Joe Burrow
Brian Robinson
Kyle Pitts
for
Derek Carr
Kareem Hunt
Zach Ertz
2025 2nd (looks like it'll be 2.1/2.2 range)
You're a better friend than meI had this happen a couple of days ago in our 14 team dynasty league. Was offered:This trade puts your friendship at risk.Got my buddy into a league with me and I'm kinda beating him over the head with this: "If you don't inquire about trades, you're never going to REALLY improve your team"
With that said, was just trying to see what a guy would need for a few players and lol he sent an offer that I accepted immediately.
Start 1 QB PPR 12 teamer
Joe Burrow
Brian Robinson
Kyle Pitts
for
Derek Carr
Kareem Hunt
Zach Ertz
2025 2nd (looks like it'll be 2.1/2.2 range)
Get:
Gibbs
Deebo
2025 1st round
Give:
Stafford
JJacobs
I should have smash accepted it but told my friend (and probably for good of the league) it was a big time overpay. We will see if any trade happens, but felt it was the right thing to do at the time.
You have no idea how hard it was not to hit acceptYou're a better friend than meI had this happen a couple of days ago in our 14 team dynasty league. Was offered:This trade puts your friendship at risk.Got my buddy into a league with me and I'm kinda beating him over the head with this: "If you don't inquire about trades, you're never going to REALLY improve your team"
With that said, was just trying to see what a guy would need for a few players and lol he sent an offer that I accepted immediately.
Start 1 QB PPR 12 teamer
Joe Burrow
Brian Robinson
Kyle Pitts
for
Derek Carr
Kareem Hunt
Zach Ertz
2025 2nd (looks like it'll be 2.1/2.2 range)
Get:
Gibbs
Deebo
2025 1st round
Give:
Stafford
JJacobs
I should have smash accepted it but told my friend (and probably for good of the league) it was a big time overpay. We will see if any trade happens, but felt it was the right thing to do at the time.
Oh shoot, I worded this VERY terribly haha.CRIMINAL!Got my buddy into a league with me and I'm kinda beating him over the head with this: "If you don't inquire about trades, you're never going to REALLY improve your team"
With that said, was just trying to see what a guy would need for a few players and lol he sent an offer that I accepted immediately.
Start 1 QB PPR 12 teamer
Joe Burrow
Brian Robinson
Kyle Pitts
for
Derek Carr
Kareem Hunt
Zach Ertz
2025 2nd (looks like it'll be 2.1/2.2 range)
I guess all is well that ends well..He has no qb this week due to byes and injuries so I traded him Stafford for McConkey. Should I feel bad about this one too... noYou have no idea how hard it was not to hit acceptYou're a better friend than meI had this happen a couple of days ago in our 14 team dynasty league. Was offered:This trade puts your friendship at risk.Got my buddy into a league with me and I'm kinda beating him over the head with this: "If you don't inquire about trades, you're never going to REALLY improve your team"
With that said, was just trying to see what a guy would need for a few players and lol he sent an offer that I accepted immediately.
Start 1 QB PPR 12 teamer
Joe Burrow
Brian Robinson
Kyle Pitts
for
Derek Carr
Kareem Hunt
Zach Ertz
2025 2nd (looks like it'll be 2.1/2.2 range)
Get:
Gibbs
Deebo
2025 1st round
Give:
Stafford
JJacobs
I should have smash accepted it but told my friend (and probably for good of the league) it was a big time overpay. We will see if any trade happens, but felt it was the right thing to do at the time.