JohnnyU
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Breece Hall is only 23.
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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (19 Viewers)
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joey
Footballguy
My first in-draft trade of the 2025 FFPC draft season 
Little trade that I just did during a FFPC SF Triflex league (QRRWWWTFF+SF)
My 3.10 + 2026 3rd
His 3.05 + 2026 4th
I drafted Shough QB NO
Carr is my 3rd QB (also have Lamar and Bryce Young) so wanted to try to lock in a value 3rd QB.
FWIW Sanders was still on the board.
Little trade that I just did during a FFPC SF Triflex league (QRRWWWTFF+SF)
My 3.10 + 2026 3rd
His 3.05 + 2026 4th
I drafted Shough QB NO
Carr is my 3rd QB (also have Lamar and Bryce Young) so wanted to try to lock in a value 3rd QB.
FWIW Sanders was still on the board.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
Yup, that mitigates his horrible situation a bit, as he should still have plenty of good years ahead.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Would you trade Drake London for Swift, 2026 2nd and whichever falls of Egbuka/Burden?
Want to trade up to get one of them but London is my only good asset.
Want to trade up to get one of them but London is my only good asset.
Boston
Footballguy
I wouldn't deal London for that...London will only be 24 in July and just put up 100-1,271-9...if Penix is the real deal he could take things to another level which puts him in no-brainer #1 WR territory...the return here is kind of nibbling around the edges...all 3 pieces are nice but nothing to get too excited about...you need to be getting back more than that...this is the type of deal you could really regret.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'd probably keep London.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Embuka just went at 1.10 and owner of 1.11 posted he will move it for picks or RBs.
I offered 2.07 and Chubba.
I offered 2.07 and Chubba.
sheerterror
Footballguy
That seems pricey for Burden. I would think Hubbard is worth more than you are giving him credit for.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Eww, no
No friggin’ way.
Hubbard alone should be enough for that.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Interesting. I’d probably just hold onto Bijan. Re-rolls are risky.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
Agreed. If Jeanty turns into Bijan in real life, I think I think owners would be really happy.
Boston
Footballguy
Really like this one for you...Pickens is someone I want no part of...talented player but I don't trust him, and I would let someone else deal with him and would have zero regrets if he does well...the fact you got Chase Brown is very solid move even without the concerns about Pickens...I would not be giving him up for this return that's for sure......Ertz still has some value in your format but he is 34 so the clock is ticking so I would not think twice about adding him in...the 2nd is not till 2027 so you have plenty of time to get that back...I like getting two picks back for this year...not high ones but still assets to be used now.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
nah London commands more than that. I'm one of the last Swift believers but this is probably his last season as a starter. Everyone expected the Bears to draft a RB relatively high and they didn't, but his days are numbered. Neither of Egbuka or Burden are on London's level IMO and that is IF they hit.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The other guy is an idiot and I like McCarthy and the 1.7.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
that's outstanding work! Mid to late tier QBs are much easier to replace than 1.01 RBs like Jeanty.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
That wouldn't get Jeanty from me and yeah I am a fan of McCarthy and the 1.07 as well. Also, these 4th rounders have no business being on that side. They paid you for the privilege of giving you Jeanty. Guaranteed there are at least a couple names in that 4th round that will end up being a hit. Knock one of those out of the park and you're really cooking.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I just don’t get it - when the upside is what you already have, that’s a lot more risk than reward. Bijan is 23, and it’s extremely likely that the Raiders offense << Falcons offense.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
It was a few different trades but the end result was
Gave 1.04 and Chubba
Received Tet, Burden,Trey Benson and Mark Andrews
Drafted Tuten at 2.04 this morning.
Rebuilding an orphan that only had Hurts,B Hall,Chubba,London ,Pearsal and Kittle as viable starters. Plan to draft a couple more RBs and aTE and see if I can move Andrews for something during the season.
Gave 1.04 and Chubba
Received Tet, Burden,Trey Benson and Mark Andrews
Drafted Tuten at 2.04 this morning.
Rebuilding an orphan that only had Hurts,B Hall,Chubba,London ,Pearsal and Kittle as viable starters. Plan to draft a couple more RBs and aTE and see if I can move Andrews for something during the season.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
allow me to opine on whether this was an overpay: no, it was not an overpay.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Score. Can’t believe you got picks back as well.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I agree killer deal, and even though I know Pickens is very talented he’s one of those guys that has the idiot factor risk I’d be happy moving off my team.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
Yup. I frequently buy the injury discount and bad situation discount, but the idiot factor is just too annoying for me.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah that was me. I sort of felt the same way from my end in terms of feeling I needed to move back into this draft and shuffle just a lil bit. I felt like I was overpaying but I'm somewhat bearish on Flowers. I actually really love him and he will have some blow up games but I don't like his floor in that offense. That said, my target, Tuten, really needs to hit to make this one for me.
ETA I accidentally typed 'bullish' when I first posted but it is supposed to be 'bearish'
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I'll let you into some of my stupid rationale.
To get others up to speed I have ETN/Bigsby and RB is my weakest spot. Tuten made all the sense in the world plus I'm aware his ADP is higher but the guy I believed in was Mason Taylor. I had b2b picks and always knew Burden was one of them, was stalling on picking Taylor because of another league but when it came time for me to pick him I started having second thoughts on passing Tuten. The guy that makes sense/need or the guy I believe in? So I picked Burden, was about to draft Taylor, but then decided to throw one last offer out trying to move back to 2.5 just so I'd not have to actually pass on drafting Tuten. Which is again is kind of a stupid mental hurdle I was struggling to get over. So threw out offer to move back to 2.5, which I thought would be accepted tbh, and ran a quick errand with idea to come back and draft most likely Taylor even though passing Tuten was still gnawing at me. Then saw your offer and took it. Just kind of stupid thought process and I spent really hours during the week on idea I'd have that exact call at 2.3, Tuten or Taylor, and then end up with Flowers.
As for Zay I already got him on two other teams. Hard guy to know when to use and agree the offense does him no favors. But while I think Taylor is going to be really good I know Zay is very talented and situations can change and at worst he's solid so had to put aside what I think vs what I know and take it.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Flowers super easy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC TriFlex
I gave 2026 2nd (not mine could land anywhere), 3.11
I got Strange, 3.04 OTC where I took Arroyo
Started the day with Pitts and Kelce. I'm going to need to move Kelce if I can we'll see.
I gave 2026 2nd (not mine could land anywhere), 3.11
I got Strange, 3.04 OTC where I took Arroyo
Started the day with Pitts and Kelce. I'm going to need to move Kelce if I can we'll see.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I mean... it's hard to say this was a bad trade for you. Yeah I like Taylor a lot as well, I knew you were most likely taking Burden first. You told everyone you were going to make a pick with that first one of the back to back and on my board Burden was slam dunk end of a top tier. I feel like right between your two picks was a fairly large cliff. I'm desperate for another RB and Tuten is the last one I think has a real solid chance to take over the lion's share of a backfield and that worst case he will be relevant in a PPR sense. Plus like I said I have some small reservations on Flowers.
Other note is that I had an offer sitting in my box of 2.04 for my Flowers straight but needed to see if I could make that deal with you, managed to get the 4.03 back (not 4.05 as in your OP but big whoop). But I also had a strong feeling that you were going to take Tuten if you stayed put and that was basically the last guy I would move into the round for. And Flowers was probably the only asset I had to do it. So if I hadn't made that offer (and I almost didn't) you probably take Tuten and then I decline the 2.04 offer.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
this was ~2 months ago. 2.06 ended up being Tuten
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Feel like it’s a fair price but dealing for a Ravens WR is always a little sketchy.
Like Flowers is that dude. I wasn’t convinced when he was drafted but he’s a very good WR. Tons of talent.
But he also seems a little fragile, and despite talking about opening up the pass for years, they just wanna run run run till daddy takes the t-bird away.
Henry did not help Flowers upside, either.
But it’s a fair trade IMO.
Flowers is currently worth more than any rookie WR not named Hunter or Tet in this draft so this is a steal. I'd argue he may be worth more than either of those guys too but I know that's not how most rankings and such see it right now.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Rookie fever is real. Odd trade to make especially if the draft has not started. Head shaker really…
Was an OTC trade to draft Tuten as barackdhouse(the acquiring team) described a few posts up.
I do think value is on my side, which is why I accepted, but I also understand the rationale of the trade. As long as Zay is in a Lamar led offense he may not be a needle mover in a league format you only have to start 2 WR's so shooting for upside at a more difficult to fill position. I for sure did not accept the offer easily, more just knew I was adding more value to my team so begrudingly accepted is more how it went. Which maight mean I'm to caught up in rookie fever, but the second round into early third of this draft class is sweet in this format this year. In hindsight wish I'd have stockpiled the heck out of seconds and early thirds.
joey
Footballguy
Adding my perspective as I am in the same league, I had the 2.1 pick, and @barackdhouse also offered me Flowers for 2.01.
I looked at rankings and thought to myself "I have to accept this, right?" but then I looked at Flowers' stats from last year and, while he's an obviously talented receiver, and I had a good impression of him as a young WR who seemed to make plays and was Lamar's go to WR, his stats were a little spikey... it reinforced my concerns about the run-first offense that he's in.
And of course there's something fun about drafting your own rookies with awesome and unlimited ceilings!
So instead, I traded the 2.01 for the 2.06 and 2.09.
My team has been Win Now since the league started 4 years ago, and now it is in desperate need of an injection of youth, so I thought I'd take 2 rookie swings in the 2nd round instead of just 1.
Also a factor was that I was really targeting Golden at the 2.01, but he went at the 1.12 (@NE_REVIVAL grrr.... ) so while I could've taken Skattebo or Burden at 2.01, I liked the tier that included Tuten at RB, Bech/Morris/Williams/Higgins/Noel at WR. and Taylor at TE.
So I traded back and ended up taking Bech at 2.06 and Taylor at 2.09.
A bit of a long, look at me post, but it IS a completed Dynasty Trade and it might shed some more light on perceived value of Flowers fwiw.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
If I'm at 2.01 with Burden on the board and the Flowers offer comes in I probably decline and take Burden but I might have preferred Flowers over moving back. Maybe. I liked the trade for you.
Adding my perspective as I am in the same league, I had the 2.1 pick, and @barackdhouse also offered me Flowers for 2.01.
I looked at rankings and thought to myself "I have to accept this, right?" but then I looked at Flowers' stats from last year and, while he's an obviously talented receiver, and I had a good impression of him as a young WR who seemed to make plays and was Lamar's go to WR, his stats were a little spikey... it reinforced my concerns about the run-first offense that he's in.
And of course there's something fun about drafting your own rookies with awesome and unlimited ceilings!
So instead, I traded the 2.01 for the 2.06 and 2.09.
My team has been Win Now since the league started 4 years ago, and now it is in desperate need of an injection of youth, so I thought I'd take 2 rookie swings in the 2nd round instead of just 1.
Also a factor was that I was really targeting Golden at the 2.01, but he went at the 1.12 (@NE_REVIVAL grrr.... ) so while I could've taken Skattebo or Burden at 2.01, I liked the tier that included Tuten at RB, Bech/Morris/Williams/Higgins/Noel at WR. and Taylor at TE.
So I traded back and ended up taking Bech at 2.06 and Taylor at 2.09.
A bit of a long, look at me post, but it IS a completed Dynasty Trade and it might shed some more light on perceived value of Flowers fwiw.
joey
Footballguy
In my head, I hear you saying this in a very sarcastic , eyeroll voice… with a pause after “I like this trade” and an emphasis on “for YOU”.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
12 Team SF TEP
(on the clock)
Gave 1.08, 3.01
Got 1.09, 2.08
(on the clock)
Gave 1.08, 3.01
Got 1.09, 2.08
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Even for a one pick bump in the first tht isn't much of a bump in the 2nd.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Agreed. My rationale is that I have a pretty strong tier break right around pick 19-20 and I wanted to make sure I was in that tier. My guy (Kaleb Johnson) was still available at 1.09, thankfully!
Boston
Footballguy
Draft-board trade...probably a good trade for both Owners based on their personal draft-boards.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
FFPC single QB best ball Empire
Tyreek Hill and a 2026 2nd
For
Jameson Williams and a 2026 3rd
Tyreek Hill and a 2026 2nd
For
Jameson Williams and a 2026 3rd
Birdie048
Footballguy
Well reasoned move IMO. The shift of "2x potential" was a good ROI.
And of course there's something fun about drafting your own rookies with awesome and unlimited ceilings!
So instead, I traded the 2.01 for the 2.06 and 2.09.
My team has been Win Now since the league started 4 years ago, and now it is in desperate need of an injection of youth, so I thought I'd take 2 rookie swings in the 2nd round instead of just 1.
Also a factor was that I was really targeting Golden at the 2.01, but he went at the 1.12 (@NE_REVIVAL grrr.... ) so while I could've taken Skattebo or Burden at 2.01, I liked the tier that included Tuten at RB, Bech/Morris/Williams/Higgins/Noel at WR. and Taylor at TE.
So I traded back and ended up taking Bech at 2.06 and Taylor at 2.09.
A bit of a long, look at me post, but it IS a completed Dynasty Trade and it might shed some more light on perceived value of Flowers fwiw.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
haha interesting. there was zero snark in it. It was a good deal for sure and I think the general consensus across fantasy after this weekend is that Mason Taylor is a stud who is too cheap right now. as for the 2.01/Burden/Flowers stuff I mean it's really coin flip scenario stuff so no reason for me to be snarky. Also loved the Bech pick as well. He's the new WR1 in Vegas and it's well within range of outcomes for both of the players you picked to individually outperform either of Burden or Flowers or Tuten. And you got two of them. Your aging over the hill team that was a bunch of has beens is now a favorite again IMHO. ok that last sentence had some snarkIn my head, I hear you saying this in a very sarcastic , eyeroll voice… with a pause after “I like this trade” and an emphasis on “for YOU”.
