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This is robbery.1.10
2.04
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1.03
This is robbery.1.10
2.04
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1.03
Same. AJB > anyone in this draft other than Jeanty, IMO.It’s weird because AJB is in his prime. He had a little bit of a down year but IMO that was an anomaly.No is excited to trade for any of those guys right now.
I get not wanting to buy on Andrews, but Jeudy isn’t that old, and Cook seems like a dude a lot of owners are high on.
In my high-ish stakes league where I have AJB and badly need a RB, I offered AJB+1.11 for any top 4 pick this year and was rejected by all of them without counter. He's a hard guy to move right now at fair value, as is Cook.
If I'm sitting at 3 or 4 and staring at Tet or Hunter as my pick, I would take your offer in a heartbeat.
I kinda get the 1st one. I’m bewildered by the 2nd one.Jayden Reed
2.06
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1.10
You just turned Jayden Reed, 2.06 and 2.04 into 1.03. I like that.1.10
2.04
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1.03
A guy in my league traded 1.04 away to get picks 11 and 16. Some people just want later picks.This is robbery.1.10
2.04
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1.03
Still got to get more back. A 2026 second or something like that at least.A guy in my league traded 1.04 away to get picks 11 and 16. Some people just want later picks.This is robbery.1.10
2.04
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Yeah, I guess so. That 1.03 has been commanding more in my leagues.A guy in my league traded 1.04 away to get picks 11 and 16. Some people just want later picks.This is robbery.1.10
2.04
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1.03
Agree. It feels a little light. But hey, good for team 1.04 to only have to give that up. Solid move, especially if SF, TEP or both. If it’s IDP, even better.Still got to get more back. A 2026 second or something like that at least.
And the guy who traded away the 1.04 wins a lot of these leagues. Not a dummy. Usually he is the one who rips off people in trades.Agree. It feels a little light. But hey, good for team 1.04 to only have to give that up. Solid move, especially if SF, TEP or both. If it’s IDP, even better.Still got to get more back. A 2026 second or something like that at least.
Monty for basically nothing. Great job!Super ultra mega blockbuster here
12 Team SF, non-TEP (QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,WR,TE,FLEX,FLEX,SF)
Gave 3.03, 4.03, 2026 3rd
Got David Montgomery, 4.07
Needed a RB4 with a fairly high floor. That's Monty.
I wouldn’t call it basically nothing. Looking at 3 of my leagues at 3.03, Fannin, Sampson, and Royals were selected. At 4.03 Jalen Milroe, and Trevor Etienne twice. Throwing in a 2026 3rd just reinforces “not nothing “. I think in the trading thread we throw the phrase “basically nothing “ around too loosely. It’s not as if Montgomery is this must have dynasty asset.Monty for basically nothing. Great job!Super ultra mega blockbuster here
12 Team SF, non-TEP (QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,WR,TE,FLEX,FLEX,SF)
Gave 3.03, 4.03, 2026 3rd
Got David Montgomery, 4.07
Needed a RB4 with a fairly high floor. That's Monty.
I stand by my assessment. Monty is signed on a high power, run first team through 2027. When both healthy, Gibbs and Monty both produce. Monty was RB16 PPG last season. You say he's not must have, but he's a weekly starter even if Gibbs starts to take more work. Should Gibbs be out, Monty is a must start RB1. Betting on that upside from Fannin, Sampson, and Royal is a losing proposition in my mind.I wouldn’t call it basically nothing. Looking at 3 of my leagues at 3.03, Fannin, Sampson, and Royals were selected. At 4.03 Jalen Milroe, and Trevor Etienne twice. Throwing in a 2026 3rd just reinforces “not nothing “. I think in the trading thread we throw the phrase “basically nothing “ around too loosely. It’s not as if Montgomery is this must have dynasty asset.Monty for basically nothing. Great job!Super ultra mega blockbuster here
12 Team SF, non-TEP (QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,WR,TE,FLEX,FLEX,SF)
Gave 3.03, 4.03, 2026 3rd
Got David Montgomery, 4.07
Needed a RB4 with a fairly high floor. That's Monty.
I read a statistic that round 3+ draft picks have a hit rate of around 9%. While I think that has value, it is definitely neighboring 'dart throw' territory. Obviously I like my side, but I can see where Monty could be something of a roster clogger on a team with a lot of RB help. This was also in-draft and the other team took Milroe with the 3.03. Seems like pretty good value on both ends, IMO.I wouldn’t call it basically nothing. Looking at 3 of my leagues at 3.03, Fannin, Sampson, and Royals were selected. At 4.03 Jalen Milroe, and Trevor Etienne twice. Throwing in a 2026 3rd just reinforces “not nothing “. I think in the trading thread we throw the phrase “basically nothing “ around too loosely. It’s not as if Montgomery is this must have dynasty asset.Monty for basically nothing. Great job!Super ultra mega blockbuster here
12 Team SF, non-TEP (QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,WR,TE,FLEX,FLEX,SF)
Gave 3.03, 4.03, 2026 3rd
Got David Montgomery, 4.07
Needed a RB4 with a fairly high floor. That's Monty.
Yes, not nothingI read a statistic that round 3+ draft picks have a hit rate of around 9%. While I think that has value, it is definitely neighboring 'dart throw' territory. Obviously I like my side, but I can see where Monty could be something of a roster clogger on a team with a lot of RB help. This was also in-draft and the other team took Milroe with the 3.03. Seems like pretty good value on both ends, IMO.I wouldn’t call it basically nothing. Looking at 3 of my leagues at 3.03, Fannin, Sampson, and Royals were selected. At 4.03 Jalen Milroe, and Trevor Etienne twice. Throwing in a 2026 3rd just reinforces “not nothing “. I think in the trading thread we throw the phrase “basically nothing “ around too loosely. It’s not as if Montgomery is this must have dynasty asset.Monty for basically nothing. Great job!Super ultra mega blockbuster here
12 Team SF, non-TEP (QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,WR,TE,FLEX,FLEX,SF)
Gave 3.03, 4.03, 2026 3rd
Got David Montgomery, 4.07
Needed a RB4 with a fairly high floor. That's Monty.
I did say basically. Based on Dynasty Nerds analysis of hit rates based on draft selection, the chances of a 3rd round or later draft pick to have 2+ starter level seasons (top-24 RB / top 30 WR / top 12 QB /TE) is 4.2%. So you have a 8.4% chance of drafting someone that will perform the same as, or better than, Monty with those picks as I see no reason Monty shouldn't live in the RB2 space.Yes, not nothingI read a statistic that round 3+ draft picks have a hit rate of around 9%. While I think that has value, it is definitely neighboring 'dart throw' territory. Obviously I like my side, but I can see where Monty could be something of a roster clogger on a team with a lot of RB help. This was also in-draft and the other team took Milroe with the 3.03. Seems like pretty good value on both ends, IMO.I wouldn’t call it basically nothing. Looking at 3 of my leagues at 3.03, Fannin, Sampson, and Royals were selected. At 4.03 Jalen Milroe, and Trevor Etienne twice. Throwing in a 2026 3rd just reinforces “not nothing “. I think in the trading thread we throw the phrase “basically nothing “ around too loosely. It’s not as if Montgomery is this must have dynasty asset.Monty for basically nothing. Great job!Super ultra mega blockbuster here
12 Team SF, non-TEP (QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,WR,TE,FLEX,FLEX,SF)
Gave 3.03, 4.03, 2026 3rd
Got David Montgomery, 4.07
Needed a RB4 with a fairly high floor. That's Monty.![]()
KTC loves quantity over quality and overvalues draft picks. It tries to adjust, but does it poorly. People should only use them for amusement,16 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE
I gave up
DK Metcalf
Sam Darnold
2026 2nd round pick (should be late)
for
Rashee Rice
I ran it through the ole keep track cut trade calculator because there are so many fans on here for that site and it told me I got hosed by a wide margin.
and yes I put it on SF OFF
My side 7,966 pts
other side 12,221 pts
16 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE
I gave up
DK Metcalf
Sam Darnold
2026 2nd round pick (should be late)
for
Rashee Rice
I ran it through the ole keep track cut trade calculator because there are so many fans on here for that site and it told me I got hosed by a wide margin.
and yes I put it on SF OFF
My side 7,966 pts
other side 12,221 pts
Bargain. Monty has a crazy high floor and continues to garner zero respect.Super ultra mega blockbuster here
12 Team SF, non-TEP (QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,WR,TE,FLEX,FLEX,SF)
Gave 3.03, 4.03, 2026 3rd
Got David Montgomery, 4.07
Needed a RB4 with a fairly high floor. That's Monty.
KTC is my least favorite calc. And it doesn’t account for league size.16 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE
I gave up
DK Metcalf
Sam Darnold
2026 2nd round pick (should be late)
for
Rashee Rice
I ran it through the ole keep track cut trade calculator because there are so many fans on here for that site and it told me I got hosed by a wide margin.
and yes I put it on SF OFF
My side 7,966 pts
other side 12,221 pts
Fair enough trade. I think Downs is a better player than Pearsall but Pearsall has a better situation. I expect Indianapolis will do something at QB next year and improve the situation. McCarthy for an early 1st is good if you believe McCarthy is a JAG. The 2026 QB class seems really good whether Arch Manning declares or not. If Cam Ward is good, his team is way better than you make it out to be when this years rookie class develops. I would love to have that roster with multiple future firsts.Superflex, TE Prem (1.75) - not involved
Team A: JJ McCarthy, Josh Downs
Team B: Ricky Pearsall, 2026 1st (early-mid)
Still trying to wrap my head around this as it feels like a light return for JJ McCarthy (and I'm not even a huge believer).
Team A has swung two big deals to acquire Burrow and McCarthy this offseason, completely revamping his QB situation to go with Ja'Marr Chase and CeeDee Lamb (and James Cook, Mark Andrews, Josh Downs, and some other solid depth pieces). Not enough to contend, but a very sturdy foundation.
Team B had 6 first round rookie picks this year (1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.08, 1.09, 1.12) and is loaded with young talent - Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson at RB, and London, McConkey, Garrett Wilson, Emeka Egbuka, Rashee Rice at WR. He seems like he may be addicted to future draft picks, because he recently traded Jameson Williams for a likely late 2027 1st (to me) and then moments later shipped off Mccarthy for a 2026 1st (more or less, if Pearsall and Downs roughly cancel out). He now has three 2026 1sts, two 2026 2nds, and two 2027 1sts. But at what point does he consolidate pieces into studs? He's rolling with Nix and Cam Ward at QB with Geno as his QB3. He also has Njoku and Jonnu Smith at TE - serviceable but not long-term solutions or elite options moving forward IMO.
Curious what others think.
Not a big Dart fan but still think you got a great deal here.12 team Superflex and TE Prem (2.0)
Gave: Tyler Warren, Kyle Williams
Got: DeVonta Smith, Jaxson Dart
Hate to give up a promising young TE like Warren but I have been trying to keep the contending window open around my core of Burrow, Ja’Marr, and Bowers.
I think DeVonta is a bankable WR2 and maybe even a bit underrated. My QB2 behind burrow has been Tua which has held me back. I added Milroe in the rookie draft this year and now have another dart in Dart.
Seems expensive for a banged up airhead12 team ppr. 1 QB. Short bench.
Gave: 1.12, 2.12, 2026 1, 2026 2, 2026 3
Received: R. Rice
Fair enough trade. I think Downs is a better player than Pearsall but Pearsall has a better situation. I expect Indianapolis will do something at QB next year and improve the situation. McCarthy for an early 1st is good if you believe McCarthy is a JAG. The 2026 QB class seems really good whether Arch Manning declares or not. If Cam Ward is good, his team is way better than you make it out to be when this years rookie class develops. I would love to have that roster with multiple future firsts.Superflex, TE Prem (1.75) - not involved
Team A: JJ McCarthy, Josh Downs
Team B: Ricky Pearsall, 2026 1st (early-mid)
Still trying to wrap my head around this as it feels like a light return for JJ McCarthy (and I'm not even a huge believer).
Team A has swung two big deals to acquire Burrow and McCarthy this offseason, completely revamping his QB situation to go with Ja'Marr Chase and CeeDee Lamb (and James Cook, Mark Andrews, Josh Downs, and some other solid depth pieces). Not enough to contend, but a very sturdy foundation.
Team B had 6 first round rookie picks this year (1.01, 1.02, 1.04, 1.08, 1.09, 1.12) and is loaded with young talent - Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson at RB, and London, McConkey, Garrett Wilson, Emeka Egbuka, Rashee Rice at WR. He seems like he may be addicted to future draft picks, because he recently traded Jameson Williams for a likely late 2027 1st (to me) and then moments later shipped off Mccarthy for a 2026 1st (more or less, if Pearsall and Downs roughly cancel out). He now has three 2026 1sts, two 2026 2nds, and two 2027 1sts. But at what point does he consolidate pieces into studs? He's rolling with Nix and Cam Ward at QB with Geno as his QB3. He also has Njoku and Jonnu Smith at TE - serviceable but not long-term solutions or elite options moving forward IMO.
Curious what others think.
12 team ppr. 1 QB. Short bench.
Gave: 1.12, 2.12, 2026 1, 2026 2, 2026 3
Received: R. Rice
Easily the picks imo. Worthy may be the better option and Royals is an underrated clone of Rice who at least as of now lacks the moron factor and injury.12 team ppr. 1 QB. Short bench.
Gave: 1.12, 2.12, 2026 1, 2026 2, 2026 3
Received: R. Rice
Give me the picks...Rice can play but he's also knucklehead coming off an ACL...this is a fantastic cash-out.
That’s not a bargain, but has the potential to pay off.12 team ppr. 1 QB. Short bench.
Gave: 1.12, 2.12, 2026 1, 2026 2, 2026 3
Received: R. Rice
12 team ppr. 1 QB. Short bench.
Gave: 1.12, 2.12, 2026 1, 2026 2, 2026 3
Received: R. Rice
Give me the picks...Rice can play but he's also knucklehead coming off an ACL...this is a fantastic cash-out.
Tough deal to evaluate until I see something out of Dart & Warren, but Smith is a very good WR. If Dart hits this is a great trade.Not a big Dart fan but still think you got a great deal here.12 team Superflex and TE Prem (2.0)
Gave: Tyler Warren, Kyle Williams
Got: DeVonta Smith, Jaxson Dart
Hate to give up a promising young TE like Warren but I have been trying to keep the contending window open around my core of Burrow, Ja’Marr, and Bowers.
I think DeVonta is a bankable WR2 and maybe even a bit underrated. My QB2 behind burrow has been Tua which has held me back. I added Milroe in the rookie draft this year and now have another dart in Dart.
12 team ppr. 1 QB. Short bench.
Gave: 1.12, 2.12, 2026 1, 2026 2, 2026 3
Received: R. Rice
Give me the picks...Rice can play but he's also knucklehead coming off an ACL...this is a fantastic cash-out.
I get what you’re saying but he didn’t tear his ACL and it’s wild that so many still think he did. Must have been some misreporting at some point that some major news outlets ran with.
Was not an ACL12 team ppr. 1 QB. Short bench.
Gave: 1.12, 2.12, 2026 1, 2026 2, 2026 3
Received: R. Rice
Give me the picks...Rice can play but he's also knucklehead coming off an ACL...this is a fantastic cash-out.
Interesting discussion here verse rice thread. It’s actually what made me throw my offer out. Who do I prefer 1.03 (best WR in this draft) or Rice. I said Rice all dayEasily the picks imo. Worthy may be the better option and Royals is an underrated clone of Rice who at least as of now lacks the moron factor and injury.12 team ppr. 1 QB. Short bench.
Gave: 1.12, 2.12, 2026 1, 2026 2, 2026 3
Received: R. Rice
Give me the picks...Rice can play but he's also knucklehead coming off an ACL...this is a fantastic cash-out.
Sorry but that's stealing Burrow. Goff has been very solid, but at his age, lost his OC, no way I think that's enough for Burrow. Just my 2 cents. That 4th should have at least been a 2nd12 Team SF Non-TEP
Gave: Goff, 2026 1st (likely mid), 2026 4th
Got: Burrow
Always funny when someone references a calc and then I just offer them something wayyyy in their favor on the calc, but I know they'd never accept.
12 team ppr. 1 QB. Short bench.
Gave: 1.12, 2.12, 2026 1, 2026 2, 2026 3
Received: R. Rice
I just bought Rice for Geno (who I paid a 2027 1st + 2027 4th for Geno+Denille Hunter) + Pittman + a S, and I would probably sell Rice for 2x 1sts, 2x 2nds, and a 3rd.I wouldn't sell Rice for that unless rebuilding and didn't have much else on my squad. Even then I'd shop for better picks/pieces. Next year's class consensus is weak and looks like your getting picks from the reigning champ. Big tier break a few spots before the 12 in 1QB no-TEP IMO.
Classic trade that looks like a lot but really you're getting two late 1'sts and a few dart throws for a high potential top 10 WR. If you're a person who is out on Rice then I get moving him for this (as it is a lot of pieces to work with if a you're a big trader) but looking at his back half rookie year and first few games before the fluke injury he was well on his way to a studly year and the suspension risk is rapidly diminishing.
It's an offer you can't refuse.This trade negotiation / discussion went off/on for 5 weeks ... today we reached a mutual deal.
12 Team currently 1 QB but going SF 2026 (all owners fully aware) 0.5 PPR with TE 1.0 ppr
1-3 RB / 2-5 WR / 1-3 TE
I gave up: Brock Bowers + 2026 2nd (I made playoffs in 2024 so project 8-10 range)
I get back: Rome Odunze, David Njuko, Terrance Ferguson and his 2026 1st (he has had 1.01 last 2 years, project Top 4)
He drafted MHJr 1.01 and Rome 1.03 in 2024 and Jeanty 1.01 + Ferguson 2.08 last week.
I had traded 3x 2nd last year (technically 1.11, 2.01 and 2.06) to get Bowers at 1.04
I was trying to get Pitts cheap from different owner, but they need QB and I don't want to any of my 3 starters (JLove, TLaw, DMaye)
I still have Otton, MMayer and Noah Gray at TE.
THOUGHTS?
I should have probably led with DK and Darnold without the pick but when someone posts that a player is on the block to entire league you just have no idea what offers are being made and some people will just take the best one and not counter at all. Had that happen plenty.KTC is my least favorite calc. And it doesn’t account for league size.16 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE
I gave up
DK Metcalf
Sam Darnold
2026 2nd round pick (should be late)
for
Rashee Rice
I ran it through the ole keep track cut trade calculator because there are so many fans on here for that site and it told me I got hosed by a wide margin.
and yes I put it on SF OFF
My side 7,966 pts
other side 12,221 pts
On dynasty dominator, set to 16 teams it comes out:
231 - 180
A theoretical overpay by about that late 2026 2nd.
When I chart it at draft sharks using their value charts I get:
Package: 13+14+29 = 56
vs
Rice: 40
So yeah, again it’s roughly that 2nd round pick as an overpay (or Darnold).
That all said, I would make the same trade if that’s what it took to get it done. Rice’s trajectory is significantly better than DKM, and in 1 QB leagues you could easily justify the overpay as “I tossed in Darnold to get it done” & be spot on at 42-40
In the same format I bought Geno Smith for a future pick, then flipped Geno + Pittman + a low end safety for Rice, which I had as an overpay by the safety. Very similar deal. I have zero regrets, and that was a SF league.
I don’t mind this deal for you at all. Rice has to hit, but value-wise it’s not an egregious overpay.
I am that guy. I'm the commissioner of our league, and I would say 90% of my FF time is spent being commish, and 10% as owner. I really do not want to put in the time to haggle at fantasy football.I should have probably led with DK and Darnold without the pick but when someone posts that a player is on the block to entire league you just have no idea what offers are being made and some people will just take the best one and not counter at all. Had that happen plenty.
If it’s 90/10 in favor of doing commissioner stuff you’re doing it all wrong. It should be the other way around. I commish several leagues and I’ve got it down where the commissioner duties don’t take up that much time.I am that guy. I'm the commissioner of our league, and I would say 90% of my FF time is spent being commish, and 10% as owner. I really do not want to put in the time to haggle at fantasy football.I should have probably led with DK and Darnold without the pick but when someone posts that a player is on the block to entire league you just have no idea what offers are being made and some people will just take the best one and not counter at all. Had that happen plenty.
I’ve said it 1000x on this very forum: I’d rather risk overpaying to get a deal done than come in low and get beat to the punch by another owner or spend enough time haggling that they change their mind.I should have probably led with DK and Darnold without the pick but when someone posts that a player is on the block to entire league you just have no idea what offers are being made and some people will just take the best one and not counter at all. Had that happen plenty.