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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (29 Viewers)
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NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
FPC not involved
TM1 gets:
Guice, Derrius
Coutee, Keke
2020 1st Round (will be early)
For
Samuels, Jaylen (RB), PIT
Brown, Antonio (WR), OAK
Then same TM1 different tm2
TM1 gets:
2019 Pick 1.03
2019 Pick 1.10
2019 Pick 1.12
2019 Pick 2.03
For
Gurley, Todd (RB), LA
2020 2nd Round
Fwi, TM1 was 3rd in lg last yr in VPs; some bold moves
TM1 gets:
Guice, Derrius
Coutee, Keke
2020 1st Round (will be early)
For
Samuels, Jaylen (RB), PIT
Brown, Antonio (WR), OAK
Then same TM1 different tm2
TM1 gets:
2019 Pick 1.03
2019 Pick 1.10
2019 Pick 1.12
2019 Pick 2.03
For
Gurley, Todd (RB), LA
2020 2nd Round
Fwi, TM1 was 3rd in lg last yr in VPs; some bold moves
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Zyphros
Footballguy
I know I wouldn't pay anywhere close to that price for AB anymore, seems like they're doing a great job. I like both returns a lot.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
12 team FFPC rules
Team A gives Gurley, 2.05
Team B gives Evans, Drake
Wasn't involved and wouldn't be making any premium deals for Gurley. And I don't think Evans has had his best season yet.
Team A gives Gurley, 2.05
Team B gives Evans, Drake
Wasn't involved and wouldn't be making any premium deals for Gurley. And I don't think Evans has had his best season yet.
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
Just completed:
Gave: T. Hill
Got: DJ Moore, Kirk and Herndon
Feels light but wanted to cash out on Hill and not take the risk of being left with a reduced asset.
Gave: T. Hill
Got: DJ Moore, Kirk and Herndon
Feels light but wanted to cash out on Hill and not take the risk of being left with a reduced asset.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Atomic Punk
Footballguy
This was my counter to him and he accepted I'm weak at TE and still solid at WR with Cooper and Juju but with very little depth so I thought it was worth it. He is the league champ and has a solid roster overall.
i don't have anything to back it up but this one doesn't feel good to me. I have a feeling it could get uglier.
i don't have anything to back it up but this one doesn't feel good to me. I have a feeling it could get uglier.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Non-idp PPR
Gave: Kareem Hunt, Michael Gallup
Got: 2.2 & 2.4
Hunt is two years away from doing any good and Gallup will be JAG in Dallas. Might as well roll the dice.
Gave: Kareem Hunt, Michael Gallup
Got: 2.2 & 2.4
Hunt is two years away from doing any good and Gallup will be JAG in Dallas. Might as well roll the dice.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
12 team FFPC style (that culminates in a 6 year jackpot season in 2020)
I gave Tyreek Hill, Kenyon Drake, 3.08
I got Mike Williams, James Washington (taxi), 3.01
I own him in one other league and fully expect to be cutting him with a total loss of value soon. If I am wrong and he is cleared of any wrongdoing, and/or gets suspended for something less than what would amount to his 2020 season, then so be it. I love Mike Williams, and feel I can flip Washington for some recovered value. Stings, not gonna lie. I deserve every bit of criticism that's coming, so go ahead. I'm not doing ####### cartwheels about it.
I gave Tyreek Hill, Kenyon Drake, 3.08
I got Mike Williams, James Washington (taxi), 3.01
I own him in one other league and fully expect to be cutting him with a total loss of value soon. If I am wrong and he is cleared of any wrongdoing, and/or gets suspended for something less than what would amount to his 2020 season, then so be it. I love Mike Williams, and feel I can flip Washington for some recovered value. Stings, not gonna lie. I deserve every bit of criticism that's coming, so go ahead. I'm not doing ####### cartwheels about it.
foxco
Footballguy
It's very light IMO but I don't blame you one bit; in the one league I have Hill I'm not moving him, just gonna go down with a sinking ship I guess.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'm not so sure about that. Plus, I think Gallup looked like a decent prospect. Not saying the value you got wasn't good, but IMO the bust rate of your picks is higher long term.
Slider
Footballguy
I'd do backflips to get those two with 2.2 and 2.4.
Can't wait to see what you get with those two picks and where you're at week one next year.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Here's the problem with Hunt - if he sticks with Cleveland he'll be a RFA next year and will be in a RBBC for two years. If he doesn't stick them it likely means he's done.
And while Gallup's talent is pretty clear, what also is is that the Cowboys' offense won't take advantage of it.
Last, I'm always amazed at how people seem to discount anything but top three draft picks. I got Gallup himself at the top of the 2nd last year.
Slider
Footballguy
I got Gallup at the top of the second too. He's meh and was then. Hunt will probably get traded at the deadline or at next year's draft. The Browns have absorbed the hit and he's pretty much in the clear at 23. He led the league. I wouldn't trade him alone for two 2's (or two Gallup's). Getting Gallup was pure gravy imo.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
I definitely disagree with the bolded part. The Browns could very easily trade Hunt, who they got cheap. Or Chubb could get hurt and Hunt takes the job and runs with it once his suspension is up, or at the very least help fantasy teams around playoff time. As for RBBC, that may only be for 8 games this year, not two years. He could very easily sign with another team in 2020 without the Browns matching their offer.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
So if about a dozen things possibly happen he could have some value. I can see waiting that out. I didn't want to.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The only reach was the injury part. The others (Trade), or signing with another team in 2020 is very doable.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
But there again, you're hoping that someone maybe wants to trade for a suspended running back. I count that as highly unlikely. And as a RFA he's not free to sign with just anyone.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don't think he would be traded while suspended, I think he could be traded when he comes off suspension or in the off-season. As for the RFA comment, I believe I was pretty clear about the possibility that the Browns wouldn't match another team's offer, not that he could sign with anyone.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Hunt has a better chance to help a team THIS year than a 2nd round pick does. Terrible trade when also factoring in the future
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
It wasn't clear, but that's okay. Without debating the minutiae, I calculate the likelyhood of his leaving the Browns as small (I had to have my mind changed about that). You calculate it higher. Hence the different conclusions?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yeah, I think the likelihood of him not being on the Browns at the start of the 2020 season is very good, either by trade, or RFA signing with another team that the Browns won't match.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Okay. Consensus is against me. 
-OZ-
Footballguy
Okay. Consensus is against me.
I still think it's fair given the depth around that point in the draft this year. (Not my trade but in the league)
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Maybe, but after a year not playing football at all, never practicing with the Browns, and as a spot player and only sometimes primary option - you'll be chasing it.
Meh, that's the beauty of fantasy football though. If you're good with it, that's all that matters. None of us truly know.Okay. Consensus is against me.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Personally I think very good players will be available in the early 2nd, so just because the consensus is against you doesn't mean it was terrible. I posted this in the Damien Williams thread - "Like one of the 3 TEs (Fant, Hockenson, and Smith), Harris, Deebo Samuel, Marquise Brown, Arcega-Whiteside, both QBs (Haskins and Murray), and Rodney Anderson if the injuries don't scare you."Okay. Consensus is against me.
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FFPC trade, not involved
Team A gave: Mahomes and Goedert
Team B gave: David Johnson and Dixon
I liked the side getting Mahome's considerably more. I'm kind of down on DJ, plus for that team it made all kinds of sense as they fairly deep at RB and own Ertz and if I owned Ertz I'd be all about trying to lock up Goedert-actually suggested the owner do that a few months ago. The team giving up Mahomes it made sense for since they have Baker and I think was struggling to get a good return on Baker(I refused to give 1.7, got rejected offering 2.3 and 2.9) so they moved Mahomes instead and kept Baker.
I did not like seeing this trade go down as I was hoping to land Baker or Mahomes myself. Also should Tyreek Hill actually be ok I own him and Kelce, team that got Mahomes is major contender so kind of hate the idea every time Hill and Kelce does something he gets a piece of it but if Hill is actually around to do something I won't be complaining.
Team A gave: Mahomes and Goedert
Team B gave: David Johnson and Dixon
I liked the side getting Mahome's considerably more. I'm kind of down on DJ, plus for that team it made all kinds of sense as they fairly deep at RB and own Ertz and if I owned Ertz I'd be all about trying to lock up Goedert-actually suggested the owner do that a few months ago. The team giving up Mahomes it made sense for since they have Baker and I think was struggling to get a good return on Baker(I refused to give 1.7, got rejected offering 2.3 and 2.9) so they moved Mahomes instead and kept Baker.
I did not like seeing this trade go down as I was hoping to land Baker or Mahomes myself. Also should Tyreek Hill actually be ok I own him and Kelce, team that got Mahomes is major contender so kind of hate the idea every time Hill and Kelce does something he gets a piece of it but if Hill is actually around to do something I won't be complaining.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
FFPC
gave Tyreek Hill
got AJ Green
* I'm a #####
gave Tyreek Hill
got AJ Green
* I'm a #####
-OZ-
Footballguy
I have both in one league, it would take more to get Hill even with the current stuff.
Hard to fault , but I'd have held on with the premise that even if he did it the odds to me say he would be able to get back in the league in 2020 at least as a 26 year old an he wont' have Mahomes but he was good with Alex Smith whose is not exactly known as getting strong WR production. Considering he might have done nothing, I'd play those odds right now and keep him over Green.
FFPC this week
Team A gives Lamar Miller
Team B gives Curtis Samuel & Robert Foster (likely a drop on either team)
Team A gives Curtis Samuel
Team C gives Golden Tate
So basically which point in time of Team A is better: with Miller, Samuel or Tate? Expect the player will be a flex in lineup this year.
Team A gives Lamar Miller
Team B gives Curtis Samuel & Robert Foster (likely a drop on either team)
Team A gives Curtis Samuel
Team C gives Golden Tate
So basically which point in time of Team A is better: with Miller, Samuel or Tate? Expect the player will be a flex in lineup this year.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
If they don't replace Miller then he would be my choice. With the obligatory gun to my head.
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
10-team PPR with IDP
gave 2.05
got Keke Coutee, 2020 2nd (likely late)
gave 2.05
got Keke Coutee, 2020 2nd (likely late)
Birdie048
Footballguy
Not necessarily.... Makes me want to target Hunt for a 2nd! I like the idea of value now (even if just a commodity value/not name or team), but it is an asset to use. Hunt's has the lingering "stink" of 8 games and some view that as too harmful now.... but long term if offers potential. I see it & understand it from both sides ...Okay. Consensus is against me.
The trade deadline was the day after Week 8 concluded in 2018. Did they move it back further? Otherwise it's impossible for him to be traded after he comes off suspension until the 2019 league year begins, and I believe that will be after he has had his RFA status tendered.
I got a bit pilloried for selling Hunt for a middling 2020 1st in our league chat. Everyone thought I gave him up too cheaply. I have also seen 2020 1sts selling for 2019 1st + 2nd (in what appears to be the opposite of the time value of money).
I'm happy with what I got, and was already in rebuild/tank mode.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Just made a deal I already kinda regret. FFPC
Gave: Gurley
Got: Kittle, Duke Johnson
Reasoning is I value Kittle at Hopkins/OBJ/MT levels in this format. So feel free to sub in one of those guys and consider it that way.
Scared of the knee, hoping Duke gets dealt somewhere he can be a receiving back. Love Kittle long term, my #1 TE.
I have Barkley and Kelce on this team too. Now I have a hole at RB2 but figure I can find a guy who can get enough catches to be fine or make another move. More than anything just wanted to get a true stud for him.
Even as I'm typing this I kinda hate it but it's all about the knee whether it ends up a good move or not.
Gave: Gurley
Got: Kittle, Duke Johnson
Reasoning is I value Kittle at Hopkins/OBJ/MT levels in this format. So feel free to sub in one of those guys and consider it that way.
Scared of the knee, hoping Duke gets dealt somewhere he can be a receiving back. Love Kittle long term, my #1 TE.
I have Barkley and Kelce on this team too. Now I have a hole at RB2 but figure I can find a guy who can get enough catches to be fine or make another move. More than anything just wanted to get a true stud for him.
Even as I'm typing this I kinda hate it but it's all about the knee whether it ends up a good move or not.
kutta
Footballguy
I don’t play FFPC. I assume it’s TE premium and you can play TE as flex?
I don’t hate it as you will probably get a lot more usable years out of Kittle. But I’m not 100 percent in on Kittle as others are. We’ve seen him do it one year with different QB’s that he will be playing with. I still rank him very high, but there is a small chance he’s not who we think he is.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Correct and this is all totally fair. I thought about pulling it several times and ultimately let it sit out there several days. He's active so it wasn't an auto accept. We'll see I guess
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Gave: Tyreek
Got: Damien Williams, Mike Williams
I think he's going down hard and this was the most I could get. Most didn't want anything to do with him. Lucky to pull this much to be honest.
Got: Damien Williams, Mike Williams
I think he's going down hard and this was the most I could get. Most didn't want anything to do with him. Lucky to pull this much to be honest.
Pwingles
Footballguy
I think this is very light, even considering the format and the injury concerns. This is what i would expect to get if we heard he was out 10+ weeks and it was iffy if he played at all this year.
Even then, id prolly just hold unless i was a real contender and kittle would keep me at the top.
I don't dislike it as much as the other, and I think you are correct to try and cash out. If he goes down, its likely going to be devastating to his career. But the NFL loves speed and no matter what happens, unless its immediate jail time, he will play again for someone.
I think you got a nice piece in Mike williams, I would be looking to cash out on Damien ASAP. Is this the same league as the gurley deal?
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Just the very name Mike Williams sends chills up my spine and puts me into a cold sweat. It took years of therapy to get past the name Mike Williams.
jk
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Nah, different leagues. Agree on Gurley, it probably deserves a 1st to be added. Mistake on my part.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
I like the Gurley deal. This is a TE premium league, correct? If so, I agree he’s on par with the top WRs. Gurley is a tough sell right now.
He is very tough to value because of the playoff usage. They have gone out of their way to say he wasn't injured but then made a specific quote that he didn't need surgery once the season ended. Most players if they aren't injured don't need surgery so it's somewhat of a red flag that they felt the need to specifically say he didn't need surgery.
I think Gurley is tough because owners don't want to give him away and owners that are inquiring are trying to get him for under full value. The price point is tough to hit. You need an owner that is sure there is something wrong to lower his price and another owner sure there is nothing wrong to give close to full value on a perceived risky player. Tough to come to agreement.
