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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (26 Viewers)
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-OZ-
Footballguy
Can certainly see why someone would prefer Hunt and Williams, but it seems highly likely that neither is a starter for much of the year. I'll take the 1.02, although in this draft there's as good a chance as ever that the player taken at 10 is better than 2.
Seems pretty fair really.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
I think Williams will get work, he played too well to be relegated to a bench role. Hunt is only missing 8 games, and who knows what is going on by then- Chubb could be banged up, or if not hunt on fresh legs may add a spark regardless. Getting some nice darts to fall back 8 spots.
I guess we all pretty much feel Moore and Jones are inconsequential?
-OZ-
Footballguy
With Williams it just seems that he's shown flashes in Miami before but was replaceable. He could stick as a 3rd down back even if the Chiefs draft someone. It's even possible he has a long career as a valuable FF piece, but it seems unlikely. I had picked him up a couple times when he flashed in Miami but failed to in KC, so maybe I'm biased.
Zay and Moore seem relatively equal and inconsequential although Zay seemed to have more talent. Maybe he'll reach his potential but it seems like a dart throw.
Catbird
Footballguy
While Mostert, at 26, is largely an unknown, along with dismissing him as a special teams player, we should at least note that his 7.7 ypc last year (admittedly on a small sample before he got hurt) was the absolute best ypc in football among all rushers with over 20 carries.
Another one 12 team ppr
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icemen gave up Rivers, Philip LAC QB and Gesicki, Mike MIA TE and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.11
and Ginn&Juice gave up Luck, Andrew IND QB
-OZ-
Footballguy
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Gave: Phillip Lindsay + 2.09
Received: Marlon Mack
Received: Marlon Mack
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Wasn't picking on you, it was an homage to some past fun on these boards between those two. SFO is an easy situation to just wash your hands of if that's a tactic. I prefer to go the opposite direction and get a bunch of cheap spare parts and then when injuries happen plug in the one that's left standing.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Thing is, when plugged into this offense any one of them could be very good. A typical Shanahan offense, someone should go for 1000 yds but who knows who that is. The rb in this offense scores points. Even mostert was a beast in this offense for a minute. So whoever is getting the work will be valuable, and if they’re all cheap why not take a flyer on one.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
That's what I'm saying. Even if today there's an RBBC, there may not be down the road. And at spare parts prices you've hit gold.
Or conversely, you pay spare parts prices, burn three roster spots, and either (a) you get no viable production or (b) SF drafts one of the stud RBs next offseason rendering them all worthless. I just can’t imagine a scenario, barring injury to two out of the three concurrently, where you’re comfortable plugging one of them into your lineup.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
No one says you have to go get all 3. I’m not so worried about what SF does next offseason. They could draft an offensive lineman too, why bother speculating? SF RBs had good games last year, whether it was breida, Wilson, mostert, heck maybe Morris was rb2 for a week. If I’m talking my rb5, I’m happy with a guy who has that kind of upside, especially cheap.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
oof. OOF. I hope this isnt a PPR league... Lindsay is a lil monster. Terrell Davis pegegd him to smash his records (won't happen, but you know..)
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I know QBs don’t have a ton of trade value in start one QB leagues but that’s a terrible return for Luck.
Sebowski
Footballguy
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I am starting to believe a lot of people didn't watch Lindsay this year. He's been moved FAR to cheap and all these people saying he's going to lose the starting job...I just don't know what you guys are looking at. He was one of the most exciting RBs in the league this year, and it felt like he could take it to the house on every carry at times.
I absolutely think this. We had an Amari for Lindsay trade (1:1) happen mid season in one of my leagues. While I understand one trade and one league doesn't set the bar, I was still surprised to see him going for quite a bit less than I thought he would after watching him all season.
I don't personally see Lindsay going straight-up for Cooper bad at all. I'd make that move in a heartbeat if I needed a WR upgrade.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I like Lindsay a lot but I wonder if the folks saying he is being undervalued (in this trade) are actually undervaluing Mack. I like the Indy offense a *lot* more than Denver. I owned Lindsay in 5 leagues. Sold him in 2. But I am a believer in him. But I would rather have Mack.
Completely agree. I probably could have stated that more clearly. I meant that other trades that have been posted in this thread and elsewhere involving Lindsay surprised me. He was, more often than not, going for much lower than I expected.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Just for reference, even though it is posted on a previous page, I recently sold Lindsay and Woods for Evans. Along with moving back from 1.08 to 2.04. Is that light for Lindsay?
This is all personal oponion, but I think it's pretty even without the pick swap. But there is usually a premium to be paid when getting a higher tier player, so I understand the pick swap being added and don't think it's light at all.
ETA: thinking a little more, I think woods is undervalued in general, as others have referenced in the forums. If I had Evans, I may still agree to the deal without swapping picks (roster dependent) because I like Lindsay and Woods.
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Sebowski
Footballguy
I don't value Mack that highly. I think the Colts are going to add someone in the draft. If they don't I'll reconsider Mack.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah I look at it pretty similarly. It was also FFPC and I cleared a roster spot. And I also had the 1.06. I also like Woods a lot. Ultimately I think Evans hasn't had his best season yet. Otherwise I feel Lindsay will be maxed out as an RB2. Good for FF but not great.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
i don't think they trust Mack, that is why they are talking to Ajayi, he'll definitely get some more competition whether in the draft or free agency
Interseptopus
Footballguy
IMO that's pretty solid. I'm not sure Lindsay repeatsbarackdhouse said:
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Besides Hines not much behind him. They’re not looking for someone to split with Mack, they’re looking for depth. The Colts are plenty satisfied with Mack as their early down back and Hines as the COP back.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
12 team FFPC rules
Team A gives Chris Carson, 1.07
Team B gives Robby Anderson, 1.06
Team A gives Chris Carson, 1.07
Team B gives Robby Anderson, 1.06
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I wouldn't see the Ajayi as anything more than a depth signing, if they do end up even bringing him in. He's already left without a contract. If they didn't trust Mack as their guy, I imagine they would have been much more active in free agency with targeting a Bell, Ingram or even Coleman. They had plenty of money to spend.
Mack was very good last year.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
That’s probably about as good as you’re gonna get thoughDr. Octopus said:
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
I like this as a very equitable trade. I assume one team was strong at RB, the other at WR. The value of Carson vs Robby seems about right to me, with Carson maybe very slightly more valuable just due to positional scarcity. The 1-pick move up seems like it evens that out. Rashard Penny gives me slight pause with Carson, but he will have a role regardless. I have always been a big Robby fan...but this one seems right.
I just offered the Carson owner in my league Robby and the 13th overall pick for Carson and the 12th. His top WR s are Golladay and Godwin, but he is stacked at RB. I am deep at WR but need a solid RB3/4 to go with Lamar Miller behind Gurley and Aaron Jones/Jamaal Williams. Glad I saw this deal in here - gave me the idea to make the same offer. Hoping it goes through!
barackdhouse
Footballguy
These teams are classic "strong at WR/weak at RB" and vice versa. Seemed like an extremely clean trade.
I worry about Penny eating into Carson's role, and I like the Jets offense to take a big step forward this year so I take the Robby side by just a little more, but it is close. I also think this example might be an easier way to get a one pick jump from 7 to 6, being this early in the season. Closer we get to rookie drafts and/or the actual NFL draft, if any kind of clarity develops regarding rookie tier breaks, *perhaps* 7 to 6 becomes harder to negotiate later. Not saying it will happen that way but it could.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
he was good when he played, he was kinda fragile. Colts are frugal with their cash, may be looking at the draft or a cheap rb later like howard or someone
I think this is correct, still prefer Lindsay over him by just a little due to anticipated higher receiving numbers but I feel pretty strongly that the Colts like Mack and don't view themselves as needing a RB the way most fantasy people do.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
CJ Anderson to backup Mack seems like a perfect fit to me. Inexpensive, and effective. Or Alex Collins if he is not suspended.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
I tried to cash in on some Lindsay hype, but he's not as easy trade for what you think you should get for him. I shopped him for a while, Mack + 2.09 was the best I could get. I thought it was fair, maybe I'm a little high on Mack.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
16 team, .5 ppr, 1 point first downs, salary cap and contracts league
Decatur Staleys gave up Hunt, Kareem CLE RB and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.04 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.12 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.12 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.03
Team Name gave up Kelly, John LAR RB and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.01 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.03 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.15 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.01
Decatur Staleys gave up Hunt, Kareem CLE RB and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.04 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.12 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 3.12 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.03
Team Name gave up Kelly, John LAR RB and Year 2019 Draft Pick 1.01 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.03 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 2.15 and Year 2019 Draft Pick 4.01
bostonfred
Footballguy
If you're shopping for quarterbacks you could do worse than brees in 6pt passing tds but non elite qbs are rarely worth paying for in 10 team and i'd rather have any starting rb.
matttyl
Footballguy
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Clearing some dynasty roster space in 12 team PPR..
Tyrell Williams for 3.04
Paul Richardson for 4.04
Tyrell Williams for 3.04
Paul Richardson for 4.04
slicedbred21
Footballguy
Thielen and Lindsay
For
2020 1st, Watkins, Pettis and J. Richard
For
2020 1st, Watkins, Pettis and J. Richard
cloppbeast
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
12 team FFPC - TE 1.5 PPR
Team A gives Tarik Cohen
Team B gives Hunter Henry
Team A gives Tarik Cohen
Team B gives Hunter Henry
