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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (27 Viewers)

FFPC

Team A trades Dorial Green Beckham, Giovani Bernard, Jimmy Graham, Kadeem Carey, Sea defense

Team B trades AJ Green, Danny Woodhead, and the Carolina defense

 
Busy draft week! I blew this roster up last off-season and am building things up with a two year plan:

12 Team, TE Premium, Superflex, Devy League (rookie Devy drafts are separate). QB-RB-WR-TE-5Flex:
 
•Traded: 1.01 rookie pick while OTC (Zeek, Treadwell, Boyd, Henry, Cardale already rostered. Owner took Doctson)
For: Tyler Eifert, Maxx Williams
 
•Traded: 1.10 (OTC, owner took Dixon), 3.01
For: Devy 1.06 (had Malachi Dupri in mind if Dalvin Cook/JuJu/Watson didn't fall)
 
•Traded: 1.11 (OTC, owner took CJ Prosise), 3.08, Tevin Coleman
For: 1.12, 2.12, Jay Ajayi
 
•Traded: 2.02 (OTC, owner took Austin Hooper)
For: Doug Baldwin
 
•Traded: 2.07 (OTC, owner took Jonathan Williams)
For: Dwayne Allen
 
•Traded: Doug Baldwin, 2.12 (OTC, owner took Pharoh Cooper)
For: 2017 1st, Karlos Williams, Kenny Britt (I also own Tavon Austin/Brian Quick. Maybe one dart throw hits if Goff is alright? I don't really like Baldwin, but thought I could flip him for more than the 2.02 and that worked out)
 
•Traded: 1.06 Devy Pick (OTC, owner took Courtland Sutton)
For: Mike Williams, WR Clemson 
 
•Traded 1.08 Devy Pick (OTC, owner took Malachi Dupri)
For: 2017 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Dion Lewis
 
I'll take it. Still a ways away from competing, but these trades plus landing Leonard Fournette, Sterling Sheppard, Michael Thomas, Devonatae Booker, Deandre Washington, etc make me not hate the team on paper:
 


QB: Cam Newton - Brock Osweiller
QB: Marcus Mariota - Sam Bradford
WR: DeVante Parker - Michael Thomas
WR: Breshad Perriman - Sammie Coates - Britt/Quick
WR: Tavon Austin - Agholor - Dorsett - Sterling
TE: Tyler Eifert - Maxx Williams - Amaro
TE: Eric Ebron - Dwayne Allen/Swope
RB: Jay Ajayi - D Booker - KWilliams
RB: Matt Jones - Dion Lewis 



2017 Rookie: 1, 1, 1, 2,  2, 3
2017 Devy: 1, Leonard Fournette, Mike Williams


 
Was in full rebuild so collectively in 4 trades recently did the following: 

Got: Mariotta/John Brown/Moncrief/Kevin White/Martavis Bryant

Gave: Doctson/Will Fuller/Derrick Henry/Jalen Strong/Jonathan Williams/Malcom Mitchell/Jared Goff/Wheaton/Demarcus Robinson/Wentz

My roster now after earning 1.2:

QB: Bortles/Mariota/Tannenhill

RB: Buck Allen/Matt Jones/Devontae Booker/James White

WR: John Brown/Moncrief/Kevin White/Treadwell/Martavius Bryant/Adams

TE: Ertz

and have my most likely top 3-4 pick in 2017 hopefully a rb

 
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FFPC

Team A trades Dorial Green Beckham, Giovani Bernard, Jimmy Graham, Kadeem Carey, Sea defense

Team B trades AJ Green, Danny Woodhead, and the Carolina defense
AJ by a lot.  DGB is just a wildcard one trick pony red zone guy.  Gio is solid but more of a scat back with very limited upside.  Jimmy and Carey are belly button lint.

 
FFPC

Team A trades Dorial Green Beckham, Giovani Bernard, Jimmy Graham, Kadeem Carey, Sea defense

Team B trades AJ Green, Danny Woodhead, and the Carolina defense
That is literally awful.  Trash for treasure and FFPC roster spots are critical so they even get the advantage of opening 2 more spots.

 
That is literally awful.  Trash for treasure and FFPC roster spots are critical so they even get the advantage of opening 2 more spots.
you guys are making me fell bad, yes I am the side that got AJ Green and yes I was trying to open some roster space to keep a couple more guys but I don't think what I gave up is complete trash. Going into rookie drafts (I realize opinions vary) but DGB was worth an early first, let's say ~ 1.3, Gio being he is young and a FA after this season was worth ~ 1.5, and Jimmy Graham is like a mid 2nd. So in that respect if you take out your feelings of the players it would be AJ for 1.3, 1.5 and a mid 2nd which maybe is a bit light but I don't think it is awful

 
Busy draft week! I blew this roster up last off-season and am building things up with a two year plan:

12 Team, TE Premium, Superflex, Devy League (rookie Devy drafts are separate). QB-RB-WR-TE-5Flex:
 
•Traded: 1.01 rookie pick while OTC (Zeek, Treadwell, Boyd, Henry, Cardale already rostered. Owner took Doctson)
For: Tyler Eifert, Maxx Williams
 
•Traded: 1.10 (OTC, owner took Dixon), 3.01
For: Devy 1.06 (had Malachi Dupri in mind if Dalvin Cook/JuJu/Watson didn't fall)
 
•Traded: 1.11 (OTC, owner took CJ Prosise), 3.08, Tevin Coleman
For: 1.12, 2.12, Jay Ajayi
 
•Traded: 2.02 (OTC, owner took Austin Hooper)
For: Doug Baldwin
 
•Traded: 2.07 (OTC, owner took Jonathan Williams)
For: Dwayne Allen
 
•Traded: Doug Baldwin, 2.12 (OTC, owner took Pharoh Cooper)
For: 2017 1st, Karlos Williams, Kenny Britt (I also own Tavon Austin/Brian Quick. Maybe one dart throw hits if Goff is alright? I don't really like Baldwin, but thought I could flip him for more than the 2.02 and that worked out)
 
•Traded: 1.06 Devy Pick (OTC, owner took Courtland Sutton)
For: Mike Williams, WR Clemson 
 
•Traded 1.08 Devy Pick (OTC, owner took Malachi Dupri)
For: 2017 1st, 2nd, 3rd, Dion Lewis
 
I'll take it. Still a ways away from competing, but these trades plus landing Leonard Fournette, Sterling Sheppard, Michael Thomas, Devonatae Booker, Deandre Washington, etc make me not hate the team on paper:
 


QB: Cam Newton - Brock Osweiller
QB: Marcus Mariota - Sam Bradford
WR: DeVante Parker - Michael Thomas
WR: Breshad Perriman - Sammie Coates - Britt/Quick
WR: Tavon Austin - Agholor - Dorsett - Sterling
TE: Tyler Eifert - Maxx Williams - Amaro
TE: Eric Ebron - Dwayne Allen/Swope
RB: Jay Ajayi - D Booker - KWilliams
RB: Matt Jones - Dion Lewis 



2017 Rookie: 1, 1, 1, 2,  2, 3
2017 Devy: 1, Leonard Fournette, Mike Williams
You're building a nice team. I can't believe Dixon fell that far. I hope he falls to me at 1.5 but it's not likely. All those 2017 picks are nice as well.

Tex

 
Not involded

Buck Allen + Jeremy Lanford 

for 

Ameer Abdullah

Personally would rather have Abdullah but this one could go either way.  

 
Not involved, I can't quite wrap my head around this one.

.5 PPR 

Demaryius Thomas

2017 4th 

 gets

Anthony Barr LB MIN

2017 3rd 

 
12 team PPR

Gave: 1.08, 3.08

Received: 2017 1st, 2.04

Essentially I moved down 8 spots to pick up a 2017 1st. This team has 4 rookie firsts now along with Gurley and not much else. If I had to guess, I would say the 2017 is a mid-1st.

 
14 team PPR (1/2/3/1, 3 flex)

Gave: 2017 1st (should be 12th-15th), 2017 2nd (mid)

For: 1.06 (and the owner promised not to take D. Henry at 1.05)

 
you guys are making me fell bad, yes I am the side that got AJ Green and yes I was trying to open some roster space to keep a couple more guys but I don't think what I gave up is complete trash. Going into rookie drafts (I realize opinions vary) but DGB was worth an early first, let's say ~ 1.3, Gio being he is young and a FA after this season was worth ~ 1.5, and Jimmy Graham is like a mid 2nd. So in that respect if you take out your feelings of the players it would be AJ for 1.3, 1.5 and a mid 2nd which maybe is a bit light but I don't think it is awful
You are a little high on your rankings.

DGB would go after Zeke and the top 3 receivers this year, so he would be 1.5 and there is a huge drop off this year after 1.1 and then again after 1.4. Gio would be in that next tier so call it around 1.7. Graham a mid to late 2nd so it is missing another high 1st type player, like a player just under Zeke in a normal year.

 
You are a little high on your rankings.

DGB would go after Zeke and the top 3 receivers this year, so he would be 1.5 and there is a huge drop off this year after 1.1 and then again after 1.4. Gio would be in that next tier so call it around 1.7. Graham a mid to late 2nd so it is missing another high 1st type player, like a player just under Zeke in a normal year.
I think that's close to accurate.

I personally would have put DGB at WR4 in this draft.

I'd have put Gio as RB2 but that's not saying a lot and to put it another way I drafted Shepard at 1.5 of a PPR league and was could have had Gio+ and said no, despite team need being huge at RB

But I did see someone pay 1.9 for Graham in a FFPC league. I would not pay that but patella tendon issues and all I'd still have taken him over every rookie TE but Henry.

For sure like the AJ Green side of this deal, but I've seen worse and Gio and DGB are both high potential young players.

 
DGB would go after Zeke and the top 3 receivers this year, so he would be 1.5 and there is a huge drop off this year after 1.1 and then again after 1.4. Gio would be in that next tier so call it around 1.7. Graham a mid to late 2nd so it is missing another high 1st type player, like a player just under Zeke in a normal year.
ADP according to mocks (including/up to May) puts DGB just barely ahead of all rookie WR. But it's close.

Doesn't change the evaluation much if you sub 1.2 for DGB. Still a bad trade.

 
FFPC

Lacy/Tye

for

J. Hill/ASJ
Personally I'd not have done this deal if I owned Lacy just because I like his chances this year of being slimmed down in a contract year playing for a second contract(huge when you consider what he's made on his rookie end of second round deal). So I'd have held him on belief his value might take major spike and deal him at that time because I'm not very high on Hill or ASJ.

But I'm not even sure Tye keeps the starting TE job or it's not a TE by committe approach and ASJ does have some nice upside despite the lack or results and negative news from this past week so if I had  to pick a side today I'd take Hill/ASJ side and I'd probably commence to trying to see if I could get a good deal on Hill. ASJ I'd keep, bad time to move him.

 
12 team PPR

Gave: 1.08, 3.08

Received: 2017 1st, 2.04

Essentially I moved down 8 spots to pick up a 2017 1st. This team has 4 rookie firsts now along with Gurley and not much else. If I had to guess, I would say the 2017 is a mid-1st.
I was in a league where someone offered pick 8  to the entire league for a 17#1 and could not find a taker. Another league of mine I offered 1.8 to the entire league for a 17#1 and found one taker and it's a likely playoff team.

So in other words, nice win for you.

 
I was in a league where someone offered pick 8  to the entire league for a 17#1 and could not find a taker. Another league of mine I offered 1.8 to the entire league for a 17#1 and found one taker and it's a likely playoff team.

So in other words, nice win for you.
Good to know. This guy has now gotten picks 3, 4, 5, 7, and 8. He's given up relatively little and gotten great value back on trading guys like Palmer and Brees. 

 
Personally I'd not have done this deal if I owned Lacy just because I like his chances this year of being slimmed down in a contract year playing for a second contract(huge when you consider what he's made on his rookie end of second round deal). So I'd have held him on belief his value might take major spike and deal him at that time because I'm not very high on Hill or ASJ.

But I'm not even sure Tye keeps the starting TE job or it's not a TE by committe approach and ASJ does have some nice upside despite the lack or results and negative news from this past week so if I had  to pick a side today I'd take Hill/ASJ side and I'd probably commence to trying to see if I could get a good deal on Hill. ASJ I'd keep, bad time to move him.
You went both ways on me!  I think I dealt the best player in the trade in Lacy, but have been trying to get ASJ for a while.  When you have a target and hear some recent bad news, but still believe in the talent, you have to take the window of opportunity while it is there.  I just hope I am not trying to catch a falling knife instead.

Lacy on the other hand, of course, looks great since the P90X stuff, but until we see him back on the field, it's all speculation - and after the debacles of trying to predict top RBs the last couple of years, I have more faith in going upside on the TE position.

 
I was in a league where someone offered pick 8  to the entire league for a 17#1 and could not find a taker. Another league of mine I offered 1.8 to the entire league for a 17#1 and found one taker and it's a likely playoff team.

So in other words, nice win for you.


I have to say this year was a good year if you were a playoff team to trade your 2016 pick. I have been in about 5 rookie drafts so far and people can't give those picks away. In leagues where the vets are included in the draft I have seen these guys get picked with late 1st round picks.

Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Wright, Zenner, Ryan Matthews, and Kirk Cousins

 
I have to say this year was a good year if you were a playoff team to trade your 2016 pick. I have been in about 5 rookie drafts so far and people can't give those picks away. In leagues where the vets are included in the draft I have seen these guys get picked with late 1st round picks.

Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Wright, Zenner, Ryan Matthews, and Kirk Cousins
I actually traded back with the hopes of getting either Dwayne Allen or Hunter Henry at 16.

 
Good to know. This guy has now gotten picks 3, 4, 5, 7, and 8. He's given up relatively little and gotten great value back on trading guys like Palmer and Brees. 
even dumber deal for him then since he will be drafting all his favorite guys before he gets to pick 8

 
Was in full rebuild so collectively in 4 trades recently did the following: 

Got: Mariotta/John Brown/Moncrief/Kevin White/Martavis Bryant

Gave: Doctson/Will Fuller/Derrick Henry/Jalen Strong/Jonathan Williams/Malcom Mitchell/Jared Goff/Wheaton/Demarcus Robinson/Wentz

My roster now after earning 1.2:

QB: Bortles/Mariota/Tannenhill

RB: Buck Allen/Matt Jones/Devontae Booker/James White

WR: John Brown/Moncrief/Kevin White/Treadwell/Martavius Bryant/Adams

TE: Ertz

and have my most likely top 3-4 pick in 2017 hopefully a rb
This doesn't help us much.  This thread isn't about how you helped your team or what your roster looks like, it's about assessing players' trade value.  If you were to list out each trade that would be much more beneficial.

 
you guys are making me fell bad, yes I am the side that got AJ Green and yes I was trying to open some roster space to keep a couple more guys but I don't think what I gave up is complete trash. Going into rookie drafts (I realize opinions vary) but DGB was worth an early first, let's say ~ 1.3, Gio being he is young and a FA after this season was worth ~ 1.5, and Jimmy Graham is like a mid 2nd. So in that respect if you take out your feelings of the players it would be AJ for 1.3, 1.5 and a mid 2nd which maybe is a bit light but I don't think it is awful
I'm not a big DGB fan but anyway you slice it, I think it's pretty clear who won the trade.  It doesn't mean anything other than the "general value" is sided in one direction.  The other person might absolutely love DGB and was going to sell whatever he didn't like to get him and the other pieces.  I disagree on your valuations for Gio and Graham too but that doesn't mean the other guy feels fleeced or anything.  I feel like it's very light for a stud in AJ, the other guy is probably very happy to get a up and coming WR with great size, a RB who is going to be a FA and get into a better role (hopefully), and a former stud TE who could return to greatness.  I don't know how their mind is viewing it.  

 
14 team PPR. Can start 2-4 RB's, 3-5 WR's.

Gave: Jamison Crowder

Got: Wendell Smallwood

I actually like Crowder, but I don't want to sit on him until Garcon and DJax are most likely gone next year when he finally gets a chance to shine. I wanted a guy who I think has an easy path to touches and receptions who I can probably flip for more pretty easily this season.

 
14 team PPR. Can start 2-4 RB's, 3-5 WR's.

Gave: Jamison Crowder

Got: Wendell Smallwood

I actually like Crowder, but I don't want to sit on him until Garcon and DJax are most likely gone next year when he finally gets a chance to shine. I wanted a guy who I think has an easy path to touches and receptions who I can probably flip for more pretty easily this season.
I think it is a fair trade but I also think Crowder is going to see the field more this year than Smallwood. I guess if you are saying Bell may not be ok so Smallwood may get some touches on 3rd down behind D Williams than ok but I don't think that is 'an easier path'

 
You went both ways on me!  I think I dealt the best player in the trade in Lacy, but have been trying to get ASJ for a while.  When you have a target and hear some recent bad news, but still believe in the talent, you have to take the window of opportunity while it is there.  I just hope I am not trying to catch a falling knife instead.
I did talk about both sides of my mouth, probably because I like idea of both selling high on Lacy(which is not yet) and buying low on ASJ(which is now)

 
I think it is a fair trade but I also think Crowder is going to see the field more this year than Smallwood. I guess if you are saying Bell may not be ok so Smallwood may get some touches on 3rd down behind D Williams than ok but I don't think that is 'an easier path'
Wat?

And I'd take Smallwood by a country mile.

 
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14 team PPR. Can start 2-4 RB's, 3-5 WR's.

Gave: Jamison Crowder

Got: Wendell Smallwood

I actually like Crowder, but I don't want to sit on him until Garcon and DJax are most likely gone next year when he finally gets a chance to shine. I wanted a guy who I think has an easy path to touches and receptions who I can probably flip for more pretty easily this season.
I think it is a fair trade but I also think Crowder is going to see the field more this year than Smallwood. I guess if you are saying Bell may not be ok so Smallwood may get some touches on 3rd down behind D Williams than ok but I don't think that is 'an easier path'
Well ya, that is a much longer path to playing time since Bell and DWill are on a different team than Smallwood.  :D

 
14 team PPR. Can start 2-4 RB's, 3-5 WR's.

Gave: Jamison Crowder

Got: Wendell Smallwood

I actually like Crowder, but I don't want to sit on him until Garcon and DJax are most likely gone next year when he finally gets a chance to shine. I wanted a guy who I think has an easy path to touches and receptions who I can probably flip for more pretty easily this season.
So in other words, you didn't have to put up a big package to get Wendell Smallwood.

 
12 Team, 1PPR, 2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-1Flex

•Gave: 2016 1.07 (OTC, owner took Paxton Lynch), 2017 1st, Theo Riddick
Received: Matt Ryan, 2.08 (I took Hunter Henry)
 
•Gave: Devante Parker, 2.09 (OTC, owner took Kenyan Drake)
Received: Keenan Allen, Kendall Wright
 
•Gave: Jordan Reed
Received: Tyler Eifert, LeGarrette Blount
 
Bit of background: maybe a slight overpay on deal #1, but after Aaron Rodgers my only QBs were Kaep/Garroppolo, and I feel safe with Ryan short and longterm. Carson Wentz had just gone at 1.06, so I didn't have many options if I wanted to compete - guys like Cutler/Rivers/Dalton etc would have cost more than this. Deal #2: owner is very high on Parker and we have been working on a deal revolving around these two for a while. He's building (done a good job so far) and I'm trying to contend. Deal #3 for the TE swap - I was kind of surprised by this one. It was an opening offer that was snap accepted. Owner said he liked Reed's upside, which I agree with, but I feel safer with Eifert even though both have injury risks (I'd rather avoid the concussion risks in today's NFL though)
 
 
You went both ways on me!  I think I dealt the best player in the trade in Lacy, but have been trying to get ASJ for a while.  When you have a target and hear some recent bad news, but still believe in the talent, you have to take the window of opportunity while it is there.  I just hope I am not trying to catch a falling knife instead.

Lacy on the other hand, of course, looks great since the P90X stuff, but until we see him back on the field, it's all speculation - and after the debacles of trying to predict top RBs the last couple of years, I have more faith in going upside on the TE position.
I don't understand the fascination with ASJ.  TE seems to be the one position where every guy gets touted as the next great TE and it just doesn't happen.  Two injury plagued seasons of meh?   I'm not sure why you're more excited about ASJ than a possibly rededicated lacy?

 
I don't understand the fascination with ASJ.  TE seems to be the one position where every guy gets touted as the next great TE and it just doesn't happen.  Two injury plagued seasons of meh?   I'm not sure why you're more excited about ASJ than a possibly rededicated lacy?
Agree. Don't get the fascination w/ ASJ. He's still a project at this point.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
Obviously rankings don't get you actual points and if that's what had to be done than so be it, but it illustrates that there was a lot of value tossed away that perhaps could have been used elsewhere
Comments like these often are rooted in some quantitatively defined value, like using specific rankings, some value chart, etc. Just wanted to point out a couple things:

  1. Value depends on league settings (roster size, starting requirements, scoring) and dispersal of talent across the league.
  2. In my experience, trades are never equal, at least not according to any specific rankings/chart. Someone always 'wins' and 'loses' on any strict definition of value.
  3. What's more, in my leagues it often seems necessary to 'overpay' to get a targeted player. And that is often worthwhile.
I suppose all of that should be well understood by all, but it seems to get lost in these discussions at times.

 
The hunters gave up:Year 2017 Round 1 Draft Pick from The huntersSKOL gave up:Henry, Hunter SDC TEYear 2016 Draft Pick 2.11
 

2.11 Sammie Coates drafted

hunters teams is stacked (luck, adp,freeman, David Johnson,obj,Hopkins, aj,alshon, 

 
12 Team 1PPR Superflex Rookie/Devy league: 2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-1Flex

Gave: 1.11, 4.08
Received: Melvin Gordon
 
Pick ended up being Kenneth Dixon. Next few picks were Mike Williams (Clemson), Jalen Hurd, Christian Mcaffery, Josh Rosen, Corey Davis, Derrius Guice, CJ Prosise, D Booker, Will Fuller
 

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